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We are using a Motif development system on an HP running HPUX. I am
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HELLO, WE ARE REVIEWMING AUTHORING TOOLS AND WE MISS TWO PIECES OF
INFORMATION: THE PRICE OF ANDREW TOOLKIT AND THE FILE FORMATS IT
SUPPORTS (FOR GRAPHICS, IMAGES AND POSSIBLY SOUND)  ALSO WE HAD PROBLEMS
TO INSTALL ANDREW ON SUN SPARC MACHINE. IS THERE ANY WELL KNOWN PROBLEM
ON THAT??   THANKS                                 MICHAEL VAZIRGIANNIS
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Datri) Organization: Convex Computer Corporation; Richardson, TX
Subject: How does messages (ams?) parse messages? Message-Id:
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info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
I find that when, for example, I pipe a news article through mail to
myself so that I can stick it in an AMS folder, Messages can't figure
out the real sender and subject -- it always lists me as the sender,
with no subject.  I've had limited success in editting the message files
and mucking with scavenge and rebuild in cui, but I haven't been able to
figure out a deterministic way to make messages happy. 
Ideas? -- 
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How does messages (ams?) parse messages? In-Reply-To:
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The real question is probably this:  how does your news reader mail
articles to you?  Clearly it does so in such a way as to tack on
additional headers that make it look like the mail originated with you.
What it *ought* to do -- and no doubt doesn't do -- is to send the news
message nearly "as-is", with the addition of "ReSent-To:" and
"ReSent-From" header fields.  I'm betting that it doesn't do that.  In
particular, if it slaps on a header like 
From: datri (Al Datri) 
then you can't really blame AMS for thinking the mail is from you!
However, if you can find anything that makes it obvious that it is
really a re-sent news message (e.g. the Newsgroups header), you can use
your FLAMES file to set the caption to whatever you like (using the
"setcaption" primitive).  
I could be more specific about this if you forwarded me a copy of what
your news articles look like after being mailed to you... -- Nathaniel
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Greetings, 
I am writing a subclass of a class that already has a Read and Write
procedure.  I would like to add some data, and have the new class
read/write both its data and then let the superclass do its thing
(either before or after my class).  It seems reasonably clean when
Reading (I merely call the superclass Read proc after reading my data,
and it will handle reading the enddata), but Writing appears painful,
since Write procedures are supposed to write both the begindata and
enddata lines, which I'd have liked to suppress for the superclass if
possible. 
Do I have to include the entire strean (begindata & enddata) for the
superclass in my new class, and if so, is there a clean, established way
of doing so? 
Thanks for your help--please respond directly to me at
andy@roma.intecs.it, since I'm not able to read the newsgroup. 
Ciao, AndyTakats 
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Hi! 
This is from README on top of the andrew distribution. 
--- FONTS_TO_BDF_ENV                [Default: not defined] 
    FONTS_TO_BDF_ENV controls whether or not the Andrew fonts will    
be converted into their Server Normal Format (.snf) during the 	: 	:    
BDF.  You can then run self-created font conversion scripts to 			  
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~     go to the various final
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Will someone tell me where can I find this script?  Do I have to write
it myself using bdftosnf and foreach? 
Thanks in advance. 
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I have a (hopefully) stupid question ... 
I have got ANdrew up to patch 10, compiled, installed etc on a Sparc 2,
SUNOS 4.1.1 (our file server). I rlogin to the server, set DISPLAY to be
where I am (a Sparc 1+, SUNOS 4.1.1) crank it all up (ez or help say) &
everything works just fine. 
HOWEVER (people don't appreciate me executing things on the server!) if
I rlogin to another client of the server and attempt to execute, say, ez
from there I get a failure to open display message. Other X applications
work fine (xman for example) so I'm fairly sure the environment is set
up correctly. 
Summary of the question then - is there any reason why, in an NFS
network, the Andrew executables should only work ON THE MACHINE ON WHICH
THEY RESIDE/WERE COMPILED and should fail when executed on clients of
that machine?? 
If this displays some form of ignorance don't hesitate to flame me - we
all have to learn somehow ... 
Nigel Head 
European Space Operations Centre, Darmstadt, Germany. 
PS: As to why I need to rlogin anywhere at all - my workstation is not
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>The real question is probably this:  how does your news reader mail
>articles to you? 
The lazy way -- I | them through  "mail datri". 
>  Clearly it does so in such a way as to tack on >additional headers
that make it look like the mail originated with you. 
Exactly. 
>From: datri (Al Datri) 
(Hmmm.  He remembers 8^) 
>then you can't really blame AMS for thinking the mail is from you! 
I'm not really blaming it -- I'd just like to get an idea of how I have
to hack the message files afterwards, and how to bludgeon AMS into
noticed that they've changed. n >really a re-sent news message (e.g. the
Newsgroups header), you can use >your FLAMES file to set the caption to
whatever you like (using the >"setcaption" primitive).  
Oh, the wonderful things I'd like to do with FLAMES.  I've never been
able to tell much from the docs -- it says LISP, for example, but
doesn't say what kind, what primitives are there, etc. 


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In article <4cnC7Xz02mCP9TQUA0@gargoyle> bill@allegra.att.com (Bill
Schell) writes: >Has anyone tried using the andrew distribution with the
recent release >of X11R5? 
Sun 4/75GX, SunOS 4.1.1, cc: 
PL10 binaries built against x11r4pl18 run just fine under the MIT sample
server.  As far as I can tell, these things end up being statically
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Subject: Re: Failures in when using via X ... Message-Id:
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Thanks to all those who answered my query about why I couldn't get ATK
apps to work on NFS'd clients. 
The key answer came from Gary (an ANDREW man) - use the "dotted" address
for DISPLAY rather than the symbolic form. Works just great! I only wish
I knew why and what it indicates about the setup of yellow pages etc on
the system in question. 
Thanks folks, another satisfied customer!! 
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1991 14:14:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Cattey <wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> To:
info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: RTF to EZ; EZ to RTF in C! 
We're alpha testing a pair of programs that convert between EZ and RTF
formats. 
The unique feature is that we encapsulate ATK text styles that
ordinarily would be impossible to express in RTF as invisible text.  If
you keep these invisible text segments, you would be able to recover
your original ATK formats even after you've edited your converted file
in Microsoft Word. 
We are still testing, and we have two features to add, so I can't make
it available today.  Are people interested in having such a program? 
-wdc Return-path: <atkbb+Bad-Addresses@andrew.cmu.edu>
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(Youki Kadobayashi) Organization: Dept. of Info. and Comp. Sci., Osaka
Univ., Japan Subject: Double byte characters in Andrew? Message-Id:
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Will Andrew support double-byte characters, such as Kanji or Hanzi, in X11R5? 
Thanks in advance, -- Youki Kadobayashi <youki@ics.osaka-u.ac.jp> or
<youki%ics.osaka-u.ac.jp@relay.cs.net> Information Network Architecture
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Thu, 12 Sep 91 10:17:10 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 91 10:17:06 -0400 From:
Jonathan Buckheit <jon@ifs.umich.edu> Subject: troff patch To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
Does anyone have the patch for troff that allows it to print embedded
postscript?  I was told that this is what most likely is preventing us
from printing multimedia messages off (we just get the header sheet!). 
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Date: Fri, 13 Sep 91 12:09:13 JST From: kaz@slab.sfc.keio.ac.jp 

Mr. Y. Kobayashi worte. 
>>Will Andrew support double-byte characters, such as Kanji or Hanzi, in
>>X11R5? 
A couple years ago, we developed double byte processing insets on the
ATK under X11R3 or X11R4.  The version of the ATK is alpah and
pre-released software included in X11R4 distribution. However,  they no
longer works on the currnet version. Most develpement stuff graduated
and I am using NeXT now. So that, I give up developemt and bug fixes of
these insets. If you need futhuer information, please contact me. 
	-kaz 	Kaz. Kitagawa 	kaz@slab.sfc.keio.ac.jp Return-path:
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20:02:31 GMT From: plx!plxsun!ming@sun.com  (Lak-Ming Lam) Organization:
Plexus Software, Inc. Subject: How to print ATK documentations
Message-Id: <3075@plx.UUCP> Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu
To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
Recently I download all the documentation files on ATK by sending the
command "get-directory doc/atk" to the andrew mail server. I got all the
files and I recongnized all the files have some kind of fomatting
commands in it.  How could I print out all this documentations on a
postscript printer?  Is there any utilities that I need to use? 
----------------------- E-Mail address: sun!plx!plxsun!ming (UUCP)      
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12:14:02 GMT From: ecsgate!stat.appstate.edu!grs00002@mcnc.org
Organization: Appalachian State University Subject: Getting Bradenville
fixed Message-Id: <1991Sep15.081402.1111@stat.appstate.edu> Sender:
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Could someone please help me find a better server than Bradenville for
using IRC? Or better yet...could someone tell me who to contact about
getting Bradenville fixed? It was hacked and all the commands were
erased. Graci GRS00002@conrad.appstate.edu Return-path:
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01:24:12 GMT From: ecsgate!stat.appstate.edu!grs00002@mcnc.org
Organization: Appalachian State University Subject: FTP file problems
Message-Id: <1991Sep16.212412.1122@stat.appstate.edu> Sender:
info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
Could anyone tell me how to download the irc files from slopoke or
cs.bu? I've tried everything and nothing has worked. The sysops are just
as puzzled as I am. The problem: when I get the file it says "to local
file:" What should happen... I put in the file naame I want it saved
under. What does happen... It says "(file name) file not found" or "file
name) file specification error". Anyone know what to do? Any help would
be greatly appreciated. Ron GRS00002@stat.appstate.edu Return-path:
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Tue, 17 Sep 91 11:50:32 -0400 Date: Tue, 17 Sep 91 11:50:32 -0400 From:
wollman@griffin.UVM.EDU Message-Id: <9109171550.AA15543@sadye.uvm.edu>
To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Scientific American 
On page 123 of this month's Scientific American, there is a caption
which reads "Advanced electronic mail, such as this experimental setup
at Bellcore..."  The picture tells a somewhat different story... a
messages window displaying: 
From: David (can't read) <da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu> To; Bulltein Board
Administration <bb+andrew.fractals@andrew.cmu.edu>,     Bulletin Board
Administration   <bb+hobbies.fractals@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Sample
fractals: Sierpinski Triangle 
[transcription errors mine] 
:-) 
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13:53:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
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Scientific American In-Reply-To: <9109171550.AA15543@sadye.uvm.edu>
References: <9109171550.AA15543@sadye.uvm.edu> 
For the record:  I supplied the picture, when two Scientific American
spent a day at my office.  There is indeed a Messages window, but also
several other windows in which my metamail and (if I recall correctly --
they took a LOT of pictures) ATOMICMAIL programs, which I've developed
here at Bellcore) are running.  You may not have noticed the others
because they're more subtle than Messages, but that's really the BSD
Mail program bringing up a picture of the space shuttle! 
I disclaim responsibility for the specifics of the caption -- I told
them that the Andrew part was from CMU.  I felt justified in putting it
all in one screen image, however, since I was the author of both the CMU
and Bellcore mail programs on display...   I feel annoyed that CMU
didn't get any credit, but frankly even more annoyed that *I* didn't get
any credit after spending a whole  !@#$@# day with those folks... 
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Subject: Re: URGENT : begindata field In-Reply-To:
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Choose any number (I generally use 1), placing the same number in the
begindata and matching enddata.  The only thing to make sure of is if
you have any embedded objects in the file (thus having multiple
begindata/enddata pairs), that each object has a distinct number. 
Also note that when you read in the finle into ez and then write the
file back out, that number will change. 
Andy 

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Andrew crashed in the middle of a message composition. Is the
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                                 gtextv                       Gesture
Based TextView Object 

                             Scott W. Hassan                           
Medical Informatics                            St. Louis, Missouri      
                hassan@informatics.wustl.edu 

After seeing the Gesture Package developed by Dean Rubine*, I decided
that Andrew needed an interface for gestures.  I put together this
simple text object that uses a few hand-made gestures to cut, copy,
paste, scroll, and set the dot. 
*      Dean Rubine         CMU Information Technology Center        
4910 Forbes Avenue         Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890        
Dean.Rubine@cs.cmu.edu 

	I think this is an interesting type of interface, fast and efficient.
If you have any additions to gtextv, please send them to me.  I created
this template textview object so that others could build on it, taking a
lot of load off me.  Well, have fun. -- 
				Scott W. Hassan 				hassan@informatics.wustl.edu 				Medical Informatics 

#! /bin/sh # This is a shell archive.  Remove anything before this line,
then unpack # it by saving it into a file and typing "sh file".  To
overwrite existing # files, type "sh file -c".  You can also feed this
as standard input via # unshar, or by typing "sh <file", e.g..  If this
archive is complete, you # will see the following message at the end:
#		"End of shell archive." # Contents:  Imakefile README README.ez
gtextv.c gtextv.ch mygest.cl #   test.ez testapp.c testapp.ch # Wrapped
by hassan@informatics on Tue Jul 30 09:49:43 1991
PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/ucb ; export PATH if test -f 'Imakefile' -a