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01:46:38 GMT From: auspex!guy@uunet.uu.net  (Guy Harris) Organization:
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GDB 4.x includes support for SunOS 4.x dynamically-loaded code, both
shared libraries and "dlopen()"ed stuff.  GDB 4.1 handles shared
libraries better, in that it automatically finds them; you still have to
use the "sharedlibrary" command to load up the symbol tables for stuff
loaded up by "dlopen()" - "sharedlibrary", with no arguments, appears to
find every shareable object that's been "dlopen()"ed since the last time
it checked, and read its symbols in. 
There is a bug in GDB 4.1 where it doesn't set the "end of text" address
in the "partial symbol table" entry for a shareable object correctly; it
relocates the *beginning of text* address to put it where the object was
actually loaded, but not the end of text address.  One consequence of
this is that you can't always (can't ever?) step into a routine in a
"dlopen()"ed shareable object.  The following patch appears to fix that
(and has been sent to "bug-gdb"): 
*** dbxread.c.dist	Fri Sep 20 23:47:25 1991 --- dbxread.c	Mon Sep 30
18:20:27 1991 *************** *** 1708,1714 ****   #ifdef
END_OF_TEXT_DEFAULT     end_of_text_addr = END_OF_TEXT_DEFAULT;   #else
!   end_of_text_addr = text_addr + text_size;   #endif      
symtab_input_desc = desc;	/* This is needed for fill_symbuf below */ ---
1708,1714 ----   #ifdef END_OF_TEXT_DEFAULT     end_of_text_addr =
END_OF_TEXT_DEFAULT;   #else !   end_of_text_addr = text_addr + addr +
text_size;	/* Relocate */   #endif       symtab_input_desc = desc;	/*
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-0400 (EDT) Original-From: M R Leeper <leeper@mtgzy> To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: AMS captions searching problem 
The latest release of AMS seems to have a problem searching captions. It
does not seem to be able to find a caption if that caption has not been
revealed since I have switched into a mailbox.  
For example I can switch into a folder in which a I have many pieces
from a given address.  If I do a reverse search on that persons name I
will find the two or three pieces of mail that already have the captions
revealed, but then further reverse searching fails.  If I scroll back
revealing more captions from this person, then reverse searching seems
to find those but starts failing at the furthest point I scrolled back
to. 
Is this just a problem at this site.  Have other people noticed it?  Am
I misinterpretting how searching should work? 
                             Mark R. Leeper                          
leeper@mtgzy.att.com,                              +1 908 957 5619      
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Subject: Re: AMS captions searching problem Cc:
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<ocuSOOa753wE1WVGBg@gazelle.att.com> References:
<ocuSOOa753wE1WVGBg@gazelle.att.com> 
I haven't tried out the new version yet, but this is an eminently likely
bug for someone to have introduced.  The captions code includes a
"virtual scroll bar" that lets you scroll backwards through the captions
without retreiving them all first -- it retrieves them as needed. Things
that need to go back, like reverse searching, first call a routine that
basically says "fill in all the old captions -- never mind the 'virtual'
part."  A bug like the one you describe would have been introduced if
someone changed it to be calling textview_ReverseScroll (or whatever it
is called) instead of captions_ReverseScroll (or whatever it is called). 
Did anyone at the ITC play with these functions in the latest release?
That would almost certainly account for the bug... -- Nathaniel
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My build in pobbconf seems to be hanging on an awk: 
(file pobb-install.msh) 
	echo "startup" | awk -f config.awk.msh > startup.awkout 
startup.awkout never seems to get changed when I "ls -l."  After
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discovered that this is a known problem that has a patch, but he's
forgotten what it is.  Does anyone remember?  This is similar to the
problem I encountered when building my binary tree for the white pages. 
The "newbt" program supplied by the Release 10 distribution doesn't work
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PDT X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.1.1 5/02/90) To:
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Is there some machine I can ftp pieces of andrew from, so that I don't
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Subject: Re: slow printing from messages Cc: rdew@alw.nih.gov
In-Reply-To: <Acv7JwW0ts5JA10kR=@alw.nih.gov> References:
<Acv7JwW0ts5JA10kR=@alw.nih.gov> 
This all stems from an attempt to be "ecologically correct". 
The original problem was that when people printed a lot of mesages, and
ezprint was started immediately for each one, each one generated (on CMU
printers) its own cover sheet.  This was incredibly wasteful -- the
typical message was one page, so it doubled the paper use.  So, I
implemented a messages-to-print queue.  When Messages queues things for
printing, it just writes them somewhere (~/.MS.ToPrintMumble..).  Then,
periodically, if there are things in that queue, it prints them.  This
means that if you print 10 messages in rapid succession, they'll print
as a single job with a single cover sheet. 
Now, when does this happen?  Oh, whenever.  Seriously, there are several
options that can control this, notably CheckpointFrequency.  One option
even turns off delayed printing altogether, reinstating the
paper-wasting but immediate printing behavior (and perfectly suitable if
your printer doesn't generate cover sheets anyway).  I don't remember
for sure, but that's something like "*.DelayPrinting: no". 
Before you take that drastic a step, however, why not consider doing
what I do:  In general, live with the delays, but if you ever need the
printouts urgently, type the following to the UNIX shell: 
cui quit 
This starts the cui program, the dumb-terminal interface to AMS, but
immediately exits it.  One of the thing its exit-procressing does is to
kick any pending print requests to the printer.  Thus you can use it as
an "empty the AMS print queue" command if you're so inclined. 
Hope that helps.  -- Nathaniel Return-path:
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-0500 (CDT) From: Wayne D Richardson <wdr+@rchland.ibm.com> To:
Info-Andrew <info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Inaccurate folder
clicking 
In messages, If your mouse click is more than about 3 pixels below the
bottom entry in the folders window, you get the "What do you want to do
with ...?" dialog box instead of the folder contents.  This doesn't
happen, oddly enough, when the last folder is inaccurately clicked on. 
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Mon, 07 Oct 91 13:39:54 +0930 From: cameron@cs.adelaide.edu.au 
Three problems. 
Site Description Sun Sparcstation 2 (server) SunOS 4.1.1 X11R4 Andrew @
patchlevel 10 Student Laboratories populated with Xterminals. 

1. Printing Is it possible to change the name of the temporary file used
during the format->print pipe from /tmp/%s.n to something more unique
(e.g. /tmp/%s.<uid>.n)? This is essential in an Xterminal environment. 
2. Menu Pointer Could somebody point me to the code that displays the
arrow when the cascading menus appear? It is appearing in reverse video
on our Xterminals which causes no end of confusion since a white arrow
on a white background is quite "traumatic" for users. I am assuming that
it is displayed using GXor which apparently is slightly buggy in the X
server on our Xterminals but can be tweaked to give correct output (so
I'm told anyway). 
3. Groff for printing I have currently configured andrew to use groff to
print documents from ez,eq and table. It doesn't appear to handle
encapsulated PostScript however which is necessary when printing zip
figures (and rasters I guess). I seem to remember somebody coming up
which a script (possibly in perl) which allowed groff to print zip
figures. Any info would be appreciated. 
Thanks -Cameron Cameron Humphries Department of Computer Science        
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info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Using ispell via ez Date: Mon, 07
Oct 91 13:59:27 +0930 From: cameron@cs.adelaide.edu.au 
Site description: Sun Sparcstation 2 SunOS 4.1.1 X11R4 andrew @ patchlevel 10 
Example session --------------- 
achilles[cameron] /users/cs/cameron ==> which ispell
/usr/local/gnu/bin/ispell achilles[cameron] /users/cs/cameron ==> cat
.atkinit addmenu "spell-check-document" "Search/Spell~1,Check
Spelling~30" textview achilles[cameron] /users/cs/cameron ==> 
If I now run ez and select "Check Spelling" it crashes. 
Have I missed something? 
No I haven't compiled with -g. That will is my next choice. 
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I have been trying to install Andrew on SCO unix, with no success yet.
There have been problems with missing libraries and with preprocessor
symbols. cc causes functions to collide with macros, while gcc would not
accept some variable redefinitions. Can anybody help me out ? 
                                 Thank you for your attention 
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Cc: In-Reply-To: <UcvoWBI91HvY96UkYp@rchland.ibm.com> References:
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I think that this is actually an oddity in, believe it or not, the
TEXTVIEW code.  Why?  Because the captions and folders views are just
subviews of textview, and they leave all the low-level mouse analysis to
textview.  They then look to see where "dot" has been put, and use that
to figure out what to do.  In this case, if you click a few pixels below
the last visible entry, textview seems to decide that the hit actually
appeared somewhere else.  (You may notice it has the wrong folder name
in the dialog box often, too!) 
I can't swear this is right, because I haven't looked at the code for
years, and right now I'm using CUI over a slow-bandwidth link, but my
recollection is that this is basically a textview problem.  I'm sure
someone will tell me if I'm wrong... -- Nathaniel Return-path:
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Subject: Andrew for SCO Unix 
I was wonder if (or when) Andrew will work under SCO Unix (or any other
DOS box version of Unix). 
Any information would be appreciated. 
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Dear Sir, I am conducting a research in multimedia systems for CAI. The
hardware platform is a Silicon Graphics IRIS Indigo computer running
IRIX 4.0 as operating system which should be X Window compatible. Is
Andrew Toolkit available for the above platform? What is the easiest way
for me to get a copy of ATK? Many Thanks Fai Return-path:
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Organization: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven,ESAT - dep. Elect.
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Hi, 
  Recently we obtained the Andrew Distribution. Now we would like to
know about books concerning this toolkit. Is it possible to give us a
list of books (ISBN number, ...) describing this toolkit? 
Thanks in advance, 

Dominique Delaere                   Email : delaere@esat.kuleuven.ac.be
Wilfried Houtput                            houtput@esat.kuleuven.ac.be
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Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 7-Oct-91 BOOKS concerning ANDREW ???
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>   Recently we obtained the Andrew Distribution. Now we would like to
know about > books concerning this toolkit. Is it possible to give us a
list of books > (ISBN number, ...) describing this toolkit? 
[WARNING: Self-serving reply follows] 
If you're interested in Andrew *programming* (as opposed to just using
the tools, which is what most people are interested in) there's the
following: 
Multimedia Applications Development with the Andrew Toolkit by Nathaniel
S. Borenstein (ahem) Prentice-Hall, 1990 ISBN # 0-13 036633-1 
It doesn't really have much of anything for non-programmers, however.
For that, the documentation and technical articles are probably your
best bet. 
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Hi, 	What is the standard distribution site for andrew? Is it
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.cc.uq.oz.au!brolga!ggm@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (George Michaelson)
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland Subject: Minor
glitch in README [.ez] re config/<system> for DEC Mips Message-Id:
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X11R5 file on export, README/README.ez refer to these files for config: 
DEC MIPS			Ultrix 3.0			pmax_3 DEC MIPS			Ultrix 4.1			pmax_41 DEC
MIPS			Ultrix 4.2			pmax_42 
however on my box: 
brolga% ls  -d /usr/local/src//andrew/config/pm*
/usr/local/src/andrew/config/pmax_3        
/usr/local/src/andrew/config/pmax_41
/usr/local/src/andrew/config/pmax_ul4 brolga% 
Brief perusal of pmax_ul4 makes me suspect its pmax_42, but it might
prove confusing! 

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01:07:32 GMT From: mcsun!unido!mcshh!rrzbu!arne@uunet.uu.net  (Arne
Ludwig) Subject: Re: Large file (Andrew) at export.lcs.mit.edu
Message-Id: <2378@rrzbu.UUCP> References: <3883@laura.UUCP> Sender:
info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute) writes: >...
Retrieving this file by >FTP is a pain. It has a size of 10 MBytes, and
at least I had problems with >it: Several times I tried to get it, and
several times FTP got stuck >anywhere. 
RFC959 specifies a facility that allows partially transferred requests
to be continued at the point where they have been aborted. The MIT ftpd
does support this facility. Using a modern Berkeley client, it is
invoked with "restart" followed by "get" or simply "reget". -- Arne
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(Simon Leinen) Organization: DI-LIA -- Ecole Polytechnique Federale de
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In article <3883@laura.UUCP> klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
(Rainer Klute) writes: 
   [about problems when FTPing multi-megabyte files to Germany] 
Wouldn't it be a good idea to mirror the /contrib directory on some
other servers (on this side of the pond).  Using the "mirror" package on
src.doc.ic.ac.uk:/archiving/mirror.shar, this should not be too
difficult.  Perhaps some of the people that provided the official FTP
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mcsun!unido!mcshh!rrzbu!arne@uunet.uu.net (Arne Ludwig) Subject: Re:
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The ATK Group plans to announce the availability of Release 5.0 of
Andrew within the next few days.  We will place a split version of the
Andrew tree on export as well as emsworth.  Since the version currently
on export may differ slightly from the actual MIT tape, we suggest that
you wait until our announcement before picking up a copy.  
Thanks, 
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 1991 13:17:04 +0100 (BST) From: Stephen J Lacey
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Subject: Re: Large file (Andrew) at export.lcs.mit.edu Cc:
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<SIMON.91Oct12151915@liasun1.epfl.ch> References: <3883@laura.UUCP>
<SIMON.91Oct12151915@liasun1.epfl.ch> Sender: sjl@doc.imperial.ac.uk 
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15:30:04 GMT From:
rsg1.er.usgs.gov!ornl!tdum.ctd.ornl.gov!jnm@g.ms.uky.edu  (Jamey Maze)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory Subject: Andrew EZ
Message-Id: <1991Oct16.153004.18194@ornl.gov> Sender:
info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
I just subscribed to this newsgroup. I would like to get some info on
Andrew EZ, which I understand is a UNIX-based word processor. Would
someone e-mail me enough info to get me jump-started. At this point, I'm
not interested in the big picture, just this one application. Also, if
there's a list of answers to FAQ's (Frequently Asked Questions) that I
could read, that would help too... 
Thanks! 

-- Jamey Maze                 | Computing & Telecommunications Division
Oak Ridge National Lab     | Advanced Technology Group P.O. Box 2008,
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"Years ago my mother said to me, 'In this world, Elwood, you must be oh
so  smart or oh so pleasant.' For years I was smart. I recommend
pleasant."         	- Elwood P. Dowd, "Harvey" Return-path:
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13:28:26 GMT From: borg!news_server!menges@mcnc.org  (John Menges)
Organization: University of North Carolina, Dept of Computer Science
Subject: Re: Converting mail to AMS representation Message-Id:
<MENGES.91Oct16092826@menges.cs.unc.edu> References:
<6818@borg.cs.unc.edu> Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
Let me rephrase that.  What I want to do is to convert lots of files,
each of which contains a bunch of messages in emacs RMAIL or ucb mail
format, into AMS folders.  I already have scripts that convert between
RMAIL and ucb mail formats. Return-path:
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13:25:38 GMT From: borg!menges!menges@mcnc.org  (John Menges) Subject:
Converting mail to AMS representation Message-Id: <6818@borg.cs.unc.edu>
Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 

Does anyone have a program that converts regular emacs (RMAIL) or ucb
mail files to AMS format?  Or can anyone point me to a reasonable way to
do this? Return-path: <atkbb+Bad-Addresses@andrew.cmu.edu>
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16:41:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re:
Converting mail to AMS representation Cc:
borg!news_server!menges@mcnc.org (John Menges) In-Reply-To:
<6818@borg.cs.unc.edu> References: <6818@borg.cs.unc.edu> 
The "eatmail" program, which is included in the "contrib" directory in
recent releases, can be used to convert a UCB mail-format file into a
directory full of one-file-per-message.  If the directory you point it
at is an AMS message directory, you can then use the CUI reconstruct
command to rebuild the index files and complete the conversion into an
AMS folder. Return-path: <atkbb+Bad-Addresses@andrew.cmu.edu>
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<4cz=EnAB0KGWQ4b6hR@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Date: 	Wed, 16 Oct 1991
14:50:43 -0700 Sender: Bill Janssen <janssen@parc.xerox.com> From: Bill
Janssen <janssen@parc.xerox.com> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu,
borg!menges!menges@mcnc.org (John Menges) Subject: Re: Converting mail
to AMS representation In-Reply-To: <6818@borg.cs.unc.edu> References:
<6818@borg.cs.unc.edu> 
To convert UCB mail to AMS mail, I set my MAIL environment variable to
point at the UCB mail file, then run cui or messages. 
Bill Return-path: <atkbb+Bad-Addresses@andrew.cmu.edu>
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09:40:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id:
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09:40:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu,
borg!menges!menges@mcnc.org (John Menges) Subject: Re: Converting mail
to AMS representation In-Reply-To:
<4cz=EnAB0KGWQ4b6hR@holmes.parc.xerox.com> References:
<6818@borg.cs.unc.edu>, 	<4cz=EnAB0KGWQ4b6hR@holmes.parc.xerox.com> 
Bill's answer also works, but the eatmail approach is more general --
with a little script around eatmail, you can convert multiple BSD mail
files into multiple AMS folders.  -- NB Return-path:
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<info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Andrew Toolkit Release 5.0 
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Oct 91 11:53:31 +0100 From: kapsch!fodatec@relay.EU.net (Fodatec
Project) Message-Id: <9110181053.AA07342@kapsch.at kapsch.co.at> To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: ditroff Cc: fodatec@tuvie.can.ac.at 
Please answer the following questions about installation of ditroff for ATK: 
- Which version of ditroff do you use with Andrew on SUN SPARC 2 (SunOS
4.1.1)   (version number, release date) ? - What directories and files
does it use ? - Have you set some specific preferences or environment
variables for that   version of ditroff ? 
Regards, 
Kazimierz Zielinski Kapsch AG, Vienna - Austria Return-path:
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17:58:53 GMT From: psuvm!frmop11!dearn!esoc!nhead@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu
Subject: Andrew w/out ditroff ?? Message-Id:
<91290.095310NHEAD@ESOC.BITNET> Sender:
info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
Can anyone tell whether it is possible (and what is involved) in using
Andrew without ditroff (which we don't have here)? Can groff be used
instead? 
Am I right when I guess that the major issue is the macro for passing
embedded PostScript?  In short - Help! Can we avoid buying ditroff? 
Thanks in advance,Nigel. Return-path:
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Apologies if this is a duplicate - don't know whether previous got out ... 
Can anyone help with alternatives to ditroff (groff??) for Andrew
printing?? Any other ways of passing the embedded postscript through ...
?? 
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	Has anyone attempted/succeeded getting Andrew upd and running on a
system running SCO Unix?  Is there a FAQ available that addresses this? 
	Thanks. 
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	Has anyone atrtempted/succeeded getting Andrew ( or part there of ) up
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	Thanks.
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19:37:05 GMT From: olivea!bu.edu!dartvax!coos!paw@ames.arc.nasa.gov 
(Pat Wilson) Organization: Project NORTHSTAR Subject: fonts for X11R5?
Message-Id: <1991Oct18.193705.12065@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Sender:
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I'm sure I've seen this asked before, and I ought to know anyway, but... 
I just put up the new R5 server on my RS/6000.  All the ATK fonts are
illegible.  What do I need to do? 
Thanks. 
-- Pat Wilson Systems Manager, Project NORTHSTAR
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s.umn.edu!ux.acs.umn.edu!bru!bru!bmc@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu  (Bruce
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I am trying to install andrew on a Sparcstation running OS4.1 & X11R5.
The make process bombs out with: 
cc -O -I/usr/local/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/local/andrew/include 
-I/usr/local/X11R5/include/X11   -o nns  gl.o gle.o mc.o mcb.o  mcbe.o
nns.o st.o stb.o stbe.o  /usr/local/andrew/lib/libmssrv.a  
/usr/local/andrew/lib/libmsshr.a  /usr/local/andrew/lib/libeli.a  
/usr/local/andrew/lib/librxp.a  /usr/local/andrew/lib/libmalloc.a  
/usr/local/andrew/lib/libmail.a  /usr/local/andrew/lib/liberrors.a  
/usr/local/andrew/lib/libutil.a /usr/local/andrew/lib/libafs.a   -ldl
ld: Undefined symbol    _dn_expand    _res_search    _res_init    __res 
  _dn_skipname Compilation failed *** Error code 2 make: Fatal error:
Command failed for target `nns' 
I've not been able to find any reference to any of the undefined symbols
in the listed libraries. 
Can anyone offer some insights to a novice andrew programmer as to how
to get andrew up and running (ie. what didn't I see after RTFMing)? Any
and all help will be appreciated; as soon as I get andrew up on the Sun,
an RS6000 is next. 
Thanks. -- --Bruce 
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" 				Ghandi
---------------------------------------------------- Bruce M. Cameron   
                bmc@bru.mayo.edu Medical Sciences 1-18              
voice: (507) 284-3288 Mayo Foundation                     fax:   (507)
284-9623 200 1st ST SW				 Rochester, MN 55905		    ARS -- WD9CKW
---------------------------------------------------- The views expressed
are those of the author and do not reflect those of the Mayo Foundation,
the Biomedical Imaging Resource or any person connected with those
organizations. 
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<info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu>,    
olivea!bu.edu!dartvax!coos!paw@ames.arc.nasa.gov (Pat Wilson) Subject:
Re: fonts for X11R5? Cc: In-Reply-To:
<1991Oct18.193705.12065@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> References:
<1991Oct18.193705.12065@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> 
You need to either: (1) obtain and build the new release of Andrew or
(2) rebuild the version you currently have with these site file
settings: 
site.h: #define FONTS_TO_PCF_ENV 1 
site.mcr:         XFC = ${XBINDIR}/bdftopcf 
Gary Keim ATK Group 

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-0400 (EDT) From: Gary Keim <gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Info-Andrew
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Cameron) Subject: Re: Andrew novice: Trying to install Andrew Cc:
In-Reply-To: <1991Oct18.212403.21815@bmw.mayo.edu> References:
<1991Oct18.212403.21815@bmw.mayo.edu> 
Don't forget that on Sun platforms you need to add this line to your
site.mcr file: 
        RESOLVLIB = /usr/lib/libresolv.a 
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03:05:45 GMT From: news.duke.edu!merlin.ac.duke.edu!karl@cs.duke.edu 
(Karl Ramm) Organization: Duke University Center for Academic Computing;
Durham, NC, USA Subject: Problems running ATK on a DecStation 3100
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I've been attempting to build the Andrew Tool Kit on a DecStation 3100
running Ultrix 4.2.  After some messing with the configuration files, it
built nicely.  However, when I run an application, something like the
following happens: 
  10:57pm cpe.ac.duke.edu+85> ez   Starting ez (Version 7.0, ATK 5.0.0);
please wait...   Segmentation fault (core dumped)   11:01pm
cpe.ac.duke.edu+86> 
Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions? 
Karl Ramm karl@merlin.ac.duke.edu, KARL@DUKEVM.BITNET  (919) 684-3695
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16:38:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject:
Problems with Andrew Release 5.0 Cc: Steve Rohall
<slr@thumper.bellcore.com>,         Jonathan Rosenberg
<jxr@thumper.bellcore.com> 
I've spent most of the weekend building the new release of Andrew, and
it isn't going TOO badly -- in fact, much more smoothly than previous
Andrew releases, but I'm still having a number of problems that have got
me stymied. 
Most crucial is the fonts.  I'm building this in an X11R4 environment,
and apparently the version of xmkfontdir I'm running doesn't know about
pcf files.  The result is that the fonts.dir file never gets built, so
no Andrew fonts are ever recognized.  Is there anything I can do about
this? 
Second, there seems to be a bug in the preferences-reading code.
Preferences that used to work have just stopped working, with some weird
error mesages that suggest memory corruption.  In particular, I have the
preference 
*.SurrogateHelpFile: /u/nsb/personal/TODO.ez 
which worked with the old version, but the new  Messages now gives me
the error message 
Cannot read surrogate help file ISCOLOR (2) 
Now "ISCOLOR" is a string that appears *later* in my preferences file,
so I suspect some kind of memory corruption.  Have the
preferences-handling routines changed substantially? 
Finally, I am surprised and disappointed to discover that the
long-yearned-for Motif-style dialog boxes and buttons seems to use much
more bandwidth on the X protocol than the old versions.  The result is
that, when using an X terminal over a dialup, the new verison of Andrew
feels MUCH slower than the old one -- lots of sitting around waiting for
the buttons to draw themselves.  Is there any way to get rid of the 3-d
look on the butons and dialog boxes?  I couldn't find any way in the
documentaton, but I thought I'd ask, because the fancy look is simply
not worth the cost at 9600 baud. 
Overall, this was one of the smoothest Andrew compilations I've ever
had, so I hate to be complaining, but it isn't quite perfect.  The font
problem is the most crucial.  Any ideas? 
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17:02:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re:
Problems with Andrew Release 5.0 Cc: Steve Rohall
<slr@thumper.bellcore.com>,         Jonathan Rosenberg
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I'm guessing now that my SurrogateHelpFile problem is a longstanding
messages bug that was only tickled with the new release.  It seems that
messages depends on storage that shouldn't be depended on, but has
always gotten away with it in the past.  Anyway, here's a fix for that
bug.  The fix is localized to atkams/messages/lib/text822v.c: 
129c129 <     char *SurrogateHelpFile; --- >     char
*SurrogateHelpFile, *s; 138c138,142 <     SurrogateHelpFile = (char *)
environ_GetProfile("messages.surrogatehelpfile"); --- >     s = (char *)
environ_GetProfile("messages.surrogatehelpfile"); >     if (s) { >
	SurrogateHelpFile = malloc(1+strlen(s)); > 	strcpy(SurrogateHelpFile,
s); >     } else s = SurrogateHelpFile = s; 

In other words, we just need to keep a copy of the value rather than a
pointer. 
My font problem, however, still persists.  How can I build fonts.dir out
of pcf files on X11R4?  -- Nathaniel Return-path:
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Nataniel, 
By default, we #define FONTS_TO_PCF_ENV in the allsys.h file and set XFC to be 
#ifdef  RELEASE2_ENV         XFC = $(XSRCDIR)/fonts/compiler/fc #else  
/* RELEASE2_ENV */ #ifndef FONTS_TO_PCF_ENV         XFC =
$(XBASEDIR)/usr/bin/X11/bdftosnf #else /* FONTS_TO_PCF_ENV */        
XFC = $(XBASEDIR)/usr/bin/X11/bdftopcf #endif /* FONTS_TO_PCF_ENV */ 
in the allsys.h file.  You should undef FONTS_TO_PCF_ENV in your site
file if you're not running under XV11R5.  
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Here is one solution to illegible fonts on an RS6000: In your site.h 
#define ISO80_FONTS_ENV 1 
but use the following as your xmkfontd/non-andrew.fonts.alias: 
----8<----cut here----8<----
andytype10bf	-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype10bif	-adobe-courier-bold-o-normal--*-100-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype10f	-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype10if	-adobe-courier-medium-o-normal--*-100-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype12bf	-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype12bif	-adobe-courier-bold-o-normal--*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype12f	-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype12if	-adobe-courier-medium-o-normal--*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype14bf	-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--*-140-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype14bif	-adobe-courier-bold-o-normal--*-140-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype14f	-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--*-140-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype14if	-adobe-courier-medium-o-normal--*-140-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype8bf	-adobe-courier-bold-r-normal--*-80-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype8bif	-adobe-courier-bold-o-normal--*-80-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype8f	-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--*-80-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andytype8if	-adobe-courier-medium-o-normal--*-80-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1
andysans10	-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans10b	-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans10bi	-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans10i	-adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans12	-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans12b	-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans12bi	-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans12i	-adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans14	-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans14b	-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal---*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans14bi	-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans14i	-adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans16	-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans16b	-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans16bi	-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans16i	-adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans22	-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-240-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans22b	-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-240-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans22bi	-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-240-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans22i	-adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-240-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans8	-adobe-helvetica-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans8b	-adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans8bi	-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysans8i	-adobe-helvetica-medium-o-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy10	-adobe-times-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy10b	-adobe-times-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy10bi	-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy10i	-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy12	-adobe-times-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy120	times120
andy12b	-adobe-times-bold-r-normal--*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy12bi	-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy12i	-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--*-120-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy14	-adobe-times-medium-r-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy14b	-adobe-times-bold-r-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy14bi	-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy14i	-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy16	-adobe-times-medium-r-normal--*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy16b	-adobe-times-bold-r-normal--*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy16bi	-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy16i	-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--*-180-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy22	-adobe-times-medium-r-normal--*-240-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy22b	-adobe-times-bold-r-normal--*-240-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy22bi	-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--*-240-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy22i	-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--*-240-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy8	-adobe-times-medium-r-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy8b	-adobe-times-bold-r-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy8bi	-adobe-times-bold-i-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andy8i	-adobe-times-medium-i-normal--*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1
andysymbol10	symbol10 andysymbol12	symbol12 andysymbol16	symbol16
andysymbol22	symbol22 andysymbol8	symbol8 andysymbola10	symbola10
andysymbola12	symbola12 andysymbola16	symbola16 andysymbola22	symbola22
andysymbola8	symbola8 messages10	msgs10 messages14	msgs14
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OK, with the new Andrew I've figured out how to add color styles using
the new and improved style editor.  (Nice work!)  What I don't
understand is why I don't have any color menus by default.  Is there
some easy way to get these, or do I really need to hand-add color styles
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Is there any way to make ATK release 5 look and behave like ATK release
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way and it works better on a monochrome X terminal. 
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Subject: hp300 bug Cc: boswell@kitzbuhl.iag.hp.com,
susan+@andrew.cmu.edu 
Hi Gary, 
I tested out your version of the 300 code on the andrew machine and it
worked fine. However I went to build the newly released version on the
300 and got this error in the log: 
        touch install.doc building (dependInstall)
(/disk/andrew/overhead/malloc)         ../.././config/depend.csh
/usr/local/bin/makedepend /usr/andrew/bin/clas s         "-I. 
-I/usr/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/andrew/include -I//usr/include/X1 1"
"+Nd4000 +Ns3000 -W p,-H500000  -W2,-x -D_CLASSIC_TYPES -DWORD=4
-DMSTATS" *.ch not found /usr/local/bin/makedepend:  cannot open
"+Nd4000" /usr/local/bin/makedepend:  cannot open "+Ns3000"
/usr/local/bin/makedepend:  cannot open "p,-H500000"         make
DESTDIR=/usr/andrew install         rm -f malloc.o         cc -c  +O1
-I.  -I/usr/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/andrew/include -I//usr/
include/X11 +Nd4000 +Ns3000 -W p,-H500000  -W2,-x -D_CLASSIC_TYPES
-DWORD=4 -DMS TATS malloc.c "./malloc.ci", line 147: function
declarations for 'sbrk' have incompatible    return types *** Error code
1 
Stop. 
Could you tell me what to do to fix this please ? We would like to use
the 300 version for the big demo to our CEO in Nov 15th ! 
Thanks, 
Lee 
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Subject: hp300 fixes Cc: boswell@kitzbuhl.iag.hp.com,
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Hi Gary, 
Jean and I looked into the problems I mailed you about. 
In overhead/malloc/malloc.ci there was an ifdef hpux which set the
variable sbrk to void *. However in /usr/include/sys/unistd.h there is
an ifdef _CLASSIC_XOPEN_TYPES which sets sbrk to char *. As this is the
only place where sbrk is redefined, we have assumed that this is what is
causing the compilation clash. Where the _CLASSIC... variable is set, I
do not know. I have therefore commented out the ifdef hpux temporarily
until I hear from you if this is the right thing to do. 
As for the issue about the wrong system file being used, this seems to
stem from config/platform.tmpl where hp300/system.mcr is used instead of
hp300_80. As this seems to relate to what you were discussing with Jean,
I have temporarily hacked this file to explicitly reference hp300_80
until I hear the new solution. 
The reason for doing the above is that I need to build this version
first and then make my demo code changes in andrew mail and then
rebuild. I want to do the first before the second and they both take
time ! Please let me know if you have any better solutions or if you
think that I have not done the correct fix. 
Thanks. In future Jean and I will try to fix/debug before I/he mail you. 
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Hi, 	We maintain the UKUUG archive here, and mirror andrew from emsworth
to the archive this side of the pond. Now what we're wondering is why
andrew.tar.Z and the split files have changed regularly over the past
few days. This is a tad annonying as it gets pulled back every time it
changes! Any reason why? 
Steve. ----- Steve J Lacey, Systems Group.      (In my opinion, my
opinions are just that.) Department of Computing, Imperial College of
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Howard <jhh+@andrew.cmu.edu>,     Wallace Colyer
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Dick Orgass <do12+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Remote Andrew Demo 
Having spent the last couple of days plugging security holes in the
Remote Andrew Demo, I would now like to invite your comments on the
revised software.  A document briefly detailing the known holes and how
they were plugged is in ~bobg/itc/atk/rdemo/Plugged (ez format). 
I invite you to attempt to subvert the security of the new Remote Andrew
Demo.  I am highly interested in any comments you may have. 
To try the demo: 
* GET THE FONTS 	If you're running X11r5, simply run 		"xset +fp
tcp/fontserv.itc.cmu.edu:7000" 	If you're running X11r4, simply run
		"xset +fp ~bobg/itc/atk/rdemo/fonts/bdf/" 
* ADD THE SERVER TO YOUR X ACL 	Simply run 		"xhost +avalon.andrew.cmu.edu" 
* SAY THE MAGIC WORD 	Simply run 		"finger
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16:19:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Minor
dialog box question 
When running at home on my monchrome GraphOn X terminal, I have the
preferences "*.dialogstyle: 3" and "*.sbuttonstyle: 3".  These are very
useful in the circumstances, but there's one weirdness:  they don't
always draw their outline boxes.  In particular, dialog boxes have a box
around the question but not the answers, and the 5 buttons in the
sendmessage window have no lines at all separating them.  Is this
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>Don't forget that on Sun platforms you need to add this line to your
>site.mcr file: 
>        RESOLVLIB = /usr/lib/libresolv.a 
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These preferences are great, but I think their default setting violates
the general principle of tuning defaults to novice/casual users.  I
think the default values should clearly be: 
ez.AskAboutSymlinks: yes ez.ClobberSymlinks: no Return-path:
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Corporation; Richardson, TX Subject: .Xdefaults vs. preferences
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What's the deal wrt whether customizations should go in .Xdefaults or in
preferences?  In the past, I've found that *some* things only seem to
work in one or the other. 
The latest README file says: 
   In addition, most ATK applications also reference the file
~/preferences or    ~/.Xdefaults for lines of the form:    ... 
yet the help for "preferences" only mentions ~/preferences. 
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<rdh@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject:
Selection indicator in old style scrollbars 
We are running ATK version 5. 
I use old style scroll bars on a monochrome X terminal via 9600 baud dial up. 
There is a black rectangle in the scroll bar that indicates the size and
position of the current selection.   Can I turn this off?   I.e, not
display it or not update it?   Currently it updates on every character
typed and every mouse click.   It is painful in the extreme.   Character
echo during simple typing is often delayed by several (easily 3 or 4)
seconds. 
Any pointers, suggestions, hidden preferences, etc. apprieciated. 
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15:04:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: R5
Feature disappearance 
One of my favorite little-known Messages features has mysteriously
disappeared with the R5 release. 
In previous releases, if you had the "Punt" button enabled, it was
possible to grab the line at the top of the Punt button and drag it
down, thus revealing a hidden "commit" button.  This functionality is
now gone.  I presume it has something to do with the change of buttons,
but I also presume that the disappearance of the Commit button was an
accident.  Does anyone know anything about it, or how to get it back?
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Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> writes: > These
preferences are great, but I think their default setting violates > the
general principle of tuning defaults to novice/casual users.  I > think
the default values should clearly be: > > ez.AskAboutSymlinks: yes >
ez.ClobberSymlinks: no 
This would be right except for the fact that this would cause EZ's
default behavior to change from what it was.  I like backward
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Yeah, I can see where you might consider it a bug.  I was probably the
only one relying on it as a feature. 
I suspect I could be equally happy with a "commit" keystroke or menu
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18:13:09 GMT From: sti.com!dgreen@apple.com  (Dan R. Greening)
Organization: Software Transformation, Inc. Subject: My 4th Build
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For approximately the 4th time, I have tried to build an Andrew system.
I tried with X11R2.  I tried with X11R3.  I tried with X11R4.  And now I
have tried with X11R5.  I failed in frustration every time. 
The latest: 
  # xmkmf   # make Makefiles   make: Fatal error in reader: Makefile,
line 307: Unexpected end of line seen 
Due to an unresolved cpp macro MkdirTarget($(DIRS)). 
This is on a SunOS 4.1.1 Sparc IPC.  I built the makefile, obviously,
with UseInstalled.  A more naive me would dig around and find the
definition, but the jaded me has decided that this event and its
predescessors point to a full-time investment of my future. 
I'm sorry.  Andrew advertises some very interesting features.  It
appears to be quite rich with utility.  However, if a relatively
motivated and reasonably intelligent developer cannot decipher its build
instructions, or if the build files themselves have bugs, Andrew
promoters cannot expect it to go very far. 
Why can't Andrew be shipped with something that actually uses Imake? Why
can't target destinations be resolved, by default, to something based
off Imakefile destinations?  (My X11R5 code is in /usr/X11R5/..., as are
many peoples'.)  Why can't it resolve configuration questions, as so
many other useful packages do, by running a shell script? 
Ugh. 
Maybe I will try again with X11R6.  Then again, maybe not. -- ____
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