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From: Bill Schell <bill@allegra.att.com>
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Subject: ez dumps core when invoking textview-plainer

I was editing today and accidentally typed ESC-^P to ez, which proceeded
to give me a core dump.  Looking at the key bindings, I found that
I had invoked textview-plainer.  The file I was editing was just
straight ascii text, no styles, etc.  Examining the core dump with gdb
gives the following trace:

(gdb) where
#0  0xf76f40bc in w4cmp ()
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#2  0x3eed0 in textview_PlainerCmd (...) (...)
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#9  0x2b24 in main (...) (...)

I'm running andrew PL10 on a Sparcstation-2, Sun OS 4.1.1, with X11R4.
Could someone check if this bug also exists in  release 5?

Bill Schell
AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ
bill@allegra.att.com
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To: meaddata!gordon@uunet.UU.NET (Gordon Edwards)
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Hi Grodon,

I had to do a few things to get my messages running on our Sun4.

I added the following entries to my /usr/andrew/etc/AndrewSetup
file:

AMS_MailBoxPrefix: /usr/spool/mail/
AMS_NonAMSDelivery: yes

Also, you need to make sure you don't have the following line in
/etc/Mail.rc, or ~/.mailrc:

set hold

I don't know what it does, but it was causing problems, so I just put

unset hold

at the end of my ~/.mailrc file and everything is working.

Can anyone tell us why the 'set hold' causes problems with messages?

-Kris Olander
 NCD Technical Support
 kriso@ncd.com
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Is it possible to send me some info about your list?

Thanx in advance.

M. T.
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 31-Oct-91 Need help with 
mail. Gordon Edwards@uunet.uu. (277)}


\quotation{Does anyone use message and sendmessage in conjunction with 
standard unix mail?

}\quotation{I would like to use the programs but I am having trouble 
recognizing new mail.

}
Sure, most of us use it that way, and it is supposed to work that way "right 
out of the box."  One possible gotcha: You may need to add the line


unset hold


to your .mailrc file, if your global mailrc file is oppositely configured.


If that's not the problem, please post a more detailed description of your 
symptoms.  -- Nathaniel\
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From: snorkelwacker.mit.edu!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!brolga!ggm@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (George Michaelson)
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In overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc_41,

We're using hacked bind code, to get some Ultrixlike behaviour into
the DNS (lookup in local file before DNS query, remove spurious searches
with extra domains... common hacks off the network)

the ld -assert from /usr/lib/libresolv.a that builds a shareable lib
fails because some of the modules (herror.c strcasecmp.c and strerror.c)
are not cc -pic when libresolv.a is made. they're not in /usr/lib/shlib.etc
cos they dont get included in the shareable code, so I went back to sources
and recompiled these three by hand. dependInstall carries on a bit happier.

I think a few extra warnings in README[.ez] about how localized libs may
impact the shared object build would help here, but clearly if you're local
libs are non-standard there is little CMU can do. 

	-George

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Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 1-Nov-91 Re: Need help with mail.
Kris Olander@uunet.uu.ne (580)

> Can anyone tell us why the 'set hold' causes problems with messages?

It's intentional.  Without it, the following horrible thing happens:

Imagine a BSD mail user, who normally keeps EVERYTHING in
/usr/spool/mail/whatever because he has "set hold" on, tries out Andrew
once -- perhaps just to use the bboard system at a site.  Without this
protection, Andrew would promptly EAT all his mail, burying it
(unbeknownst to him) in ~/.MESSAGES/mail/garbage-names.  This happened
once or twice, and people were NOT amused.  They tended to regard Andrew
as a dangerous instrument after that.  And that's th reason for the
check on "set hold".  -- NB

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Subject: hanging cui/messages problem found!

I was able to trace through the execution of a CUI for long enough to
find out that it was hanging on a flock().  It turns out that AIX,
unlike BSD-derived systems, will translate a flock() into the
appropriate lockf() and pass the result along through rcp.lockd to the
file server's kernel, as opposed to the standard behavior of ignoring
the call.  Our AIX system and our Sun-4 server were, apparently, not
speaking the same lock protocol version, or some such.

Perhaps a note could be inserted in the README file.

-GAWollman

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Date: 4 Nov 91 15:03:09 GMT
From: meaddata!gordon@uunet.uu.net  (Gordon Edwards)
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Subject: Re: Need help with mail.
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In article <1991Oct31.185202.13213@meaddata.com>, gordon@meaddata.com (Gordon Edwards) writes:
|> Does anyone use message and sendmessage in conjunction with standard unix mail?
|> I would like to use the programs but I am having trouble recognizing new mail.
|> 

Thanks to all the people who answered.  My problems were twofold.

1) I needed unset hold in my .mailrc.
2) I needed AMS_NonAMSDelivery: set to yes in my .Xdefaults (It is not 
explicitly set in our site configuration file.

	Thanks again,

	Gordon Edwards
	Mead Data Central
	gordon@meaddata.com
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From: andy@ginger.roma.intecs.it (Andrew Takats)
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Subject: Menubar Problems
Apparently-To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu

Greetings, a few questions for the all-knowing out there (thanks!!!):
1. After diddling with my menu entries, I now cannot get the More... functionality
to work.  A small window gives me overlapping titles.  Ugly.
2. Is there any way to get rid of the greyed out More... option?
3. Can I turn popup menus and/or the menubar on & off at runtime (so far I've
only been able to manipulate things with the pref file)

Thanks for any help, please respond via email. 

Ciao!
Andy Takats
andy@roma.intecs.it
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From: phh@adnt.fr (Philippe )
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Hi,

We are going to receive with X11.5 tape andrew
We have already tested a previous version and we
faced a few problem. 

Does the X11 distribution tape
hold the latest available version of andrew ?

We are using SUN, ISC & SCO plateforms. Have you a
specific distribubtion for ISC & SCO ? If yes what are
the conditions for a tape distribution.

Do you happen to know if anybody has developped a translator
from word5 files (.doc) to andrew ?

Thanks

Philippe

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>And when you've got it up, try running "ez" on a remote display, like this:
>	mysys> ez -display othersys:0 file
>Let me know if it does or doesn't work....

Worked for me when I tried it (server and client both "Desktop SPARC"
machines running SunOS 4.1.1).
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>It's kind of odd, though, that a file with the extention .a is a dynamic
>library, which are by convention called *.so.n.n.  All of the other
>.a files in /usr/andrew/lib are normal archives.

It appeared to be the easiest way to change the Imakefiles, given that
it didn't involve changing the name of the library....

>Actually, why do these .a files exist at all in a dynamic system?

Because if they didn't, you'd have to back out all the static linking
stuff, which seemed like more effort than I cared to invest.  Other
platforms where native dynamic linking was used appeared to use the
static linking as well; dunno why they didn't nuke it.
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 5-Nov-91 andrew Philippe 
@adnt.fr (465)}


\quotation{Do you happen to know if anybody has developped a translator from 
word5 files (.doc) to andrew ?

}
There is a translator from RTF files to ATK format.  It is in 
$(ANDREWDIR)/lib/ness/fromrtf.n;  this is a Ness program and the file begins 
with extensive comments documenting usage.


\{RTF is rather ill-defined since it has many versions.  If your document 
demonstrates quirks in the translation, send me a copy and maybe I can improve 
the translator.\}


Fred Hansen

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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.cmu.info-andrew: 1-Nov-91 ez dumps core
when invoking.. Bill Schell@RCHGATE.rchl (913)}


\quotation{I was editing today and accidentally typed ESC-^P to ez, which
proceeded

}\quotation{to give me a core dump.  Looking at the key bindings, I found that

}\quotation{I had invoked textview-plainer.

[...]

}
In ez, at both ATK 15.5 (patchlevel 8) and ATK 5.0.0 (latest), I get an error
message ("Esc-^P: Unknown command") when I type ESC-^P.  ^X-^P is bound to
textview-plainer at both levels, and, additionally, Esc-'-Esc-p is bound to
textview-plainer at the latest level (5.0.0).  For me, all work correctly at
their respective levels.


-wr

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\quotation{Does the X11 distribution tape

}\quotation{hold the latest available version of andrew ?

}
Yes, the X.V11R5 tape has the latest Andrew distribution.  You can find andrew 
in the contrib-3 section.  


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from misc: 5-Nov-91 andrew Philippe @adnt.fr (465)}


\quotation{We are using SUN, ISC & SCO plateforms. Have you a

}\quotation{specific distribubtion for ISC & SCO ?

}
ATK has been built and tested on Sun 4s.  A partial SCO port is included in 
the general distribution, although we've heard that there are problems and are 
awaiting patches for it to work properly.  We have not ported ATK to ISC.  


Susan Straub

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\define{global

attr:[FontSize ConstantFontSize Point 12]}
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menu:[Region~4,Itemize~31]
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\define{enumerate
menu:[Region~4,Enumerate~30]
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\define{programexample
menu:[Region~4,ProgramExample~13]
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attr:[Flags PassThru Int Set]}
\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from andrew-info: 6-Nov-91 Re: ez dumps core when 
invo.. Wayne D Richardson@rchla (621+0)}


\quotation{\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.cmu.info-andrew: 1-Nov-91 ez 
dumps core when invoking.. Bill Schell@RCHGATE.rchl (913)}

}
\quotation{\quotation{I was editing today and accidentally typed ESC-^P to ez, 
which proceeded

}}\quotation{\quotation{to give me a core dump.  Looking at the key bindings, 
I found that

}}\quotation{\quotation{I had invoked textview-plainer.

}\quotation{[...]

}}
\quotation{In ez, at both ATK 15.5 (patchlevel 8) and ATK 5.0.0 (latest), I 
get an error message ("Esc-^P: Unknown command") when I type ESC-^P.  ^X-^P is 
bound to textview-plainer at both levels, and, additionally, Esc-'-Esc-p is 
bound to textview-plainer at the latest level (5.0.0).  For me, all work 
correctly at their respective levels.

}

I have also observed the same behavior.  The core dump happens (in ATK 15.5) 
because  \typewriter{keystate__DoProc} calls \typewriter{textview_PlainerCmd}. 
 In doing so, it passes as the rock the last key typed (\\020, ^P).  

However, \typewriter{textview_PlainerCmd }is expecting a string pointer for a 
rock.  As soon as it does a strcmp using \\020 as a string pointer, its all 
over.  


Why is passing that particular rock ?  In txtvcmds.c textview-plainer is bound 
to two (other) sets of keystrokes and passes the rock "new" in both places. 
 The place where passing the last character of the keysequence happens is in 
init.c, when a key binding is made through an init file.  This rock is 
established if none is supplied in the init file.  So you are probably using 
something like:

\typewriter{addkey textview-plainer	\\e^p textview 

}in your .ezinit, or perhaps global.ezinit, whereas you should have

\typewriter{addkey textview-plainer	\\e^p textview textview inherit new

}instead.  This, indeed, was my problem, and the change above fixed it.  

By the way, the passing of a rock to a key function is not documented, even in 
the comments in init.c.  It is in the code, and does work, and is required for 
situations such as this one.


You may also want to consider simply removing Esc-^P as a way to invoke 
textview-plainer and just use Esc-'-Esc-p (this would also fix the problem).


\bold{\bigger{Charles Hayden  cch@mtgzfs3.att.com}}

Bell Labs   MT 3G-408

200 Laurel Ave, Middletown, NJ 07748

(908) 957-5558

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>  message: error closing import file
>  exit code = 8.
>
>Is there a fix for this?

Yeah, put the ATK source on a file system with more space, or delete
some stuff on the file system containing the ATK source. :-)

I.e., that message is most likely a somewhat poor way of saying "out of
space"; unfortunately, the code doesn't print the error message
associated with "errno" if the "fclose()" fails - yes, the system
doesn't *guarantee* that value in "errno" corresponds to the reason why
"fclose()" failed, but it's sufficiently likely to that printing the
error message associated with it will, overall, do more good than harm -
so you have to check elsewhere to find out that you ran out of space.
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While trying to build the latest release of andrew on a Sparc (SunOS 4.1.1),
I keep getting the following error:

Andrew class preprocessor exiting abnormally!
  processing file: /home/camaro/ANDREW/SUN/include/atk/text.ch
  message: error closing import file
  exit code = 8.

Is there a fix for this? Can anyone point out where/what I should RTFM to get
andrew up and running?

Many Thanks.
-- 
--Bruce

"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"
				Ghandi
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They don't speak for me, I don't speak for them.
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From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au!brolga!ggm@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (George Michaelson)
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groff-1.03[+] has a 1-line different tmac.psatk (ok, so it excludes an IBM
copyright as well) from that on the latest andrews dist. 

This appears to prime the "T" variable toggle.

Why does it matter which .so file I include in tmac.atk?

I am also a bit concerned at how many <file>.ez.<digits>.n tempfiles get
dumped into /tmp, albiet from a grossly simplistic set of values for
formatcommand printcommand and previewcommand.

Should I have some cronjob to remove these, or is there some other way to
do this?

the andrews "preview" tool dislikes groffs dvi output format, so I'm using
gxditview as the preview tool, which works but is not a runapp.

just for the developers...

	-building groff was harder than building andrews!

-George
 
--------------------------------
~ggm/preferences file:
PRINTERTYPE:ps
#
# andrews demanded the full path to some binaries... dont know why.
# this is in PATH and path ok for my shell (tcsh)
#
FORMATCOMMAND: eqn -T$PRINTERTYPE /tmp/%s.n \
		| tbl | /usr/local/bin/gtroff -mps -Tps |
#
# these args to gxditview appear to permit *IT* to submit printjobs directly
# which is a useful adjunct to the print selection within EZ.
#
PREVIEWCOMMAND: /usr/local/bin/X11/gxditview -title %s -xrm '*iconName:%s' \
		-printCommand '/usr/local/bin/grops | /usr/ucb/lpr -Psc' -
PRINTCOMMAND: /usr/local/bin/grops | /usr/ucb/lpr -Psc
#
# no, I am not an anti-mac fanatic
#
*.Menubar:on
#
# but alas popups AND motifstyle freaks my lobes too much.
#
*.PopupMenus:off
MimicOldScrollbar:false
ScrollbarPosition:left
MotifScrollBars:yes
--
                         George Michaelson
G.Michaelson@cc.uq.oz.au The Prentice Centre      | There's no  market for
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Are there AMS clients that use a non-X based, graphical interface? For instance
NextStep, Windows, or MacOS clients?  (I suppose that you would first need to
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	I have just compiled andrew with a few hassles !!

	The first problem was that none of the Makefiles had andrew/config 
added to the INCLUDES def. I thought that the purpose of the imake command
at the start would have been to do this ! Did I miss something ? The steps I
followed were :-


	imake -I. -I./config -Timake.tmpl -s Makefile -DTOPDIR=.


from contrib/lib/andrew directory. And then

	make World

This blew up in my face very quickly complaining that it couldn't find the
include file allsys.h !!

	The second question I have is that when it is finished everything is
linked back from my DESTDIR ( /usr/local/andrew ) to where the contrib sources
are ! I don't want this anything that needs to be installed I would like to be
copied to my DESTDIR.

	Can anyone tell me how to solve these problems please. Any suggestions 
will be gratefully appreciated !!

Please reply to me ( owie@cs.newcastle.edu.au ) by email

Thanks in advance
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From: cis.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!cherokee!tomahawk!scoffin@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Steve Coffin)
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OK, follows are a couple of patches to make "ez" run on multiple displays.
This means that "ez" becomes a multi-user editor in which multiple users
can make changes to a file simultaneously.  Updates made by one user will
immediately appear at the display of all users....

To apply the patches:
	1.  Read the patches first.  Only "eza.c" and "eza.ch" will change.
	2.  cd contrib/lib/andrew/atk/ez.
	3.  patch -p < this_file
	4.  make dependInstall
	5.  cd ../apps
	6.  make dependInstall

To use the new version:
	A new command-line option "-u" is available, which takes an X11
	display name.  You can have up to 8 "-u" options for up to 8
	simultaneous users:
		$ ez -u my_sys:0 -u your_sys:0 file.to.edit
	or
		$ ez -u my_sys:0 -u my_sys:0 file.to.edit
	for two "ez" windows on the same display.
	These act as normal:
		$ ez file.to.edit
		$ ez -u my_sys:0 file.to.edit
		$ ez -display your_sys:0 file.to.edit

ps= These patches are for the new (5.0) version of ez as delivered in X11R5,
but the hacks (not the exact patches) were formerly used with the older
X11R4 (patch 9) release.  I didn't test these with patch 10.

pps= This is probably not the best or most desirable solution, but it worked
for me....  Your mileage may vary.  Mail me to give advice and/or flames.

ppps= Thanks to auspex!guy@uunet.UU.NET for helping with a BIND problem
in compiling andrew v5.0.

					=S.Coffin
					scoffin@uswest.com

=======================================================================

*** eza.ch.orig	Fri Oct 25 09:32:30 1991
--- eza.ch	Wed Nov  6 10:41:49 1991
***************
*** 10,15 ****
--- 10,16 ----
  static char *rcsidezapp_H = "$Header: /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/itc/sm/releases/X.V11R5/ftp/src/atk/ez/RCS/eza.ch,v 2.8 1991/10/03 16:07:05 bobg Exp $";
  #endif /* !defined(lint) && !defined(LOCORE) && defined(RCS_HDRS) */
  
+ #define MAXUSER 8       /*SC  8 users max */
  
  struct ezapp_fileList {
      struct ezapp_fileList *next;
***************
*** 32,40 ****
          struct ezapp_fileList *files,**fileLink;
          boolean initFile;
          boolean haveBufferInWindow;
!         struct im *im;
!         struct frame *frame;
          struct buffer *buffer;
          struct buffer *errorBuffer;
  	char *defaultObject;
  };
--- 33,43 ----
          struct ezapp_fileList *files,**fileLink;
          boolean initFile;
          boolean haveBufferInWindow;
!         struct im *im[MAXUSER];			/*SC*/
!         struct frame *frame[MAXUSER];		/*SC*/
          struct buffer *buffer;
+ 	char display [MAXUSER][40];     	/*SC*/
          struct buffer *errorBuffer;
  	char *defaultObject;
+ 	int usercnt;				/*SC*/
  };
*** eza.c.orig	Thu Oct 24 13:52:16 1991
--- eza.c	Wed Nov  6 13:13:01 1991
***************
*** 48,64 ****
  struct classheader *classID;
  struct ezapp *self;
  {
      self->initFile=TRUE;
      self->files=NULL;
      self->fileLink= &self->files;
      self->haveBufferInWindow = FALSE;
-     self->im = NULL;
-     self->frame = NULL;
      self->buffer = NULL;
      self->errorBuffer = NULL;
      self->defaultObject = NULL;
      ezapp_SetMajorVersion(self, 7);
      ezapp_SetMinorVersion(self, 0);
      return TRUE;
  }
  
--- 48,71 ----
  struct classheader *classID;
  struct ezapp *self;
  {
+     int i;				/*SC*/
      self->initFile=TRUE;
      self->files=NULL;
      self->fileLink= &self->files;
      self->haveBufferInWindow = FALSE;
      self->buffer = NULL;
      self->errorBuffer = NULL;
      self->defaultObject = NULL;
      ezapp_SetMajorVersion(self, 7);
      ezapp_SetMinorVersion(self, 0);
+ 
+     self->usercnt = 0;                  /*SC*/
+     for( i=0; i<MAXUSER; ++i ) {        /*SC*/
+ 	self->frame[i] = NULL;          /*SC*/
+ 	self->im[i] = NULL;             /*SC*/
+ 	self->display[i][0] = '\0';     /*SC*/
+     }                                   /*SC*/
+ 
      return TRUE;
  }
  
***************
*** 205,210 ****
--- 212,218 ----
      struct buffer *buffer;
      long count = 0;
      int cc;
+ 
  /* Loop until we have a file in a buffer. */
      while (frame_VisitFilePrompting(frame, "Please enter the name of an initial file: ", FALSE, FALSE) < 0) {
  
***************
*** 295,300 ****
--- 303,310 ----
      if (maxInitWindows < 2)
  	maxInitWindows = 1;
  
+     self->usercnt = 0;          /*SC*/
+ 
      while(*++argv!=NULL){
  	if(**argv=='-')
  	    switch((*argv)[1]){
***************
*** 301,306 ****
--- 311,328 ----
  		case 'o': /* Create a buffer on object */
  		    pendingObject=TRUE;
  		    break;
+ 		case 'u':	/*SC  get users.... */
+ 		    if( self->usercnt < MAXUSER ) {
+ 			strcpy( self->display[self->usercnt], *++argv );
+ 			fprintf( stderr, "ez:  Using display >>%s<<\n",
+ 				self->display[self->usercnt] );
+ 			++self->usercnt;
+ 		    }
+ 		    else {
+ 			fprintf( stderr, "%s: too many users; %s ignored!\n",
+ 				ezapp_GetName(self), *++argv );
+ 		    }
+ 		    break;			/*SC*/
  		case 'r': /* Next file should be readonly. */
  		    pendingReadOnly = TRUE;
  		    break;
***************
*** 330,335 ****
--- 352,368 ----
  	}
      }
  
+     /* always at least one user! =SC */
+     if( self->usercnt <= 0 ) self->usercnt = 1;
+ 
+     /*SC this is an unknown glitch: must have a file specified to
+      *SC get multi-user menu....
+      */
+     if( self->files == NULL ) {
+     	fprintf( stderr, "ez: At least one file required!\n" );
+ 	return FALSE;
+     }
+ 
      return TRUE;
  }
  
***************
*** 377,382 ****
--- 410,416 ----
  {
      struct ezapp_fileList *fileEntry, *next;
      struct text *errtext;
+     int i;              /*SC*/
  
      if(!super_Start(self))
  	return FALSE;
***************
*** 422,439 ****
              buffer_SetCkpVersion(self->buffer, version);
              buffer_SetWriteVersion(self->buffer, version);
              if (fileEntry->newWindow) {
!                 if((self->frame = frame_New()) == NULL) {
! 		    fprintf(stderr,"Could not allocate enough memory.\nexiting.\n");
! 		    return(FALSE);
  		}
-                 frame_SetCommandEnable(self->frame, TRUE);
-                 if((self->im = im_Create(NULL)) == NULL) {
- 		    fprintf(stderr,"Could not create new window.\nexiting.\n");
- 		    return(FALSE);
- 		}
-                 im_SetView(self->im, self->frame);
-                 frame_PostDefaultHandler(self->frame, "message", frame_WantHandler(self->frame, "message"));
-                 frame_SetBuffer(self->frame, self->buffer, TRUE);
                  self->haveBufferInWindow = TRUE;
  
  		/* go to line */
--- 456,482 ----
              buffer_SetCkpVersion(self->buffer, version);
              buffer_SetWriteVersion(self->buffer, version);
              if (fileEntry->newWindow) {
! 		for( i=0; i < self->usercnt; ++i ) {    /*SC ... and ff */
! 		    self->frame[i] = frame_New();
!                     if( self->frame[i] == NULL) {
! 		        fprintf(stderr,
! 			    "Could not allocate enough memory.\nexiting.\n");
! 		        return(FALSE);
! 		    }
!                     frame_SetCommandEnable(self->frame[i], TRUE);
! 		    self->im[i] = im_Create( self->display[i] );
!                     if( self->im[i] == NULL) {
! 		        fprintf(stderr,
! 			    "Could not create new window on %s.\nexiting.\n",
! 				self->display[i]);
! 		        return(FALSE);
! 		    }
! 
!                     im_SetView(self->im[i], self->frame[i]);
! /*XXX*/             frame_PostDefaultHandler(self->frame[i], "message",
! 			frame_WantHandler(self->frame[i], "message"));
!                     frame_SetBuffer(self->frame[i], self->buffer, TRUE);
  		}
                  self->haveBufferInWindow = TRUE;
  
  		/* go to line */
***************
*** 492,521 ****
          self->errorBuffer = NULL;
      }
  
!     if (self->frame == NULL || self->errorBuffer != NULL)  {
  	/*
  	    Dont have a window yet, or need one for error buffer.
  	*/
  
! 	self->frame = frame_New();
! 	frame_SetCommandEnable(self->frame, TRUE);
          if (self->haveBufferInWindow)
!             frame_SetTitle(self->frame, "Startup Errors.");
          else
!             frame_SetTitle(self->frame, "No files specified."); /* This will get reset below. */
! 	self->im = im_Create(NULL);
! 	if(self->im == NULL) {
  	    /* Cannot run any further anyway, so just exit instead of dumping core! j_mukerji@att.com*/
  	    exit(1);
  	}
! 	im_SetView(self->im, self->frame);
! 	frame_PostDefaultHandler(self->frame, "message", frame_WantHandler(self->frame, "message"));
      }
  
!     if (self->errorBuffer)
! 	frame_SetBuffer(self->frame, self->errorBuffer,	TRUE);
      waitCursor = cursor_Create(NULL);
      cursor_SetStandard(waitCursor, Cursor_Wait);
      return TRUE;
  }
  
--- 535,567 ----
          self->errorBuffer = NULL;
      }
  
!     if (self->frame[0] == NULL || self->errorBuffer != NULL)  {	/*SC*/
  	/*
  	    Dont have a window yet, or need one for error buffer.
  	*/
  
! 	self->frame[0] = frame_New();		/*SC*/
! 	frame_SetCommandEnable(self->frame[0], TRUE);	/*SC*/
          if (self->haveBufferInWindow)
!             frame_SetTitle(self->frame[0], "Startup Errors.");	/*SC*/
          else
!             frame_SetTitle(self->frame[0], "No files specified."); /* This will get reset below. */	/*SC*/
! 	self->im[0] = im_Create( self->display[0]);		/*SC*/
! 	if(self->im[0] == NULL) {		/*SC*/
  	    /* Cannot run any further anyway, so just exit instead of dumping core! j_mukerji@att.com*/
  	    exit(1);
  	}
! 	im_SetView(self->im[0], self->frame[0]);		/*SC*/
! 	frame_PostDefaultHandler(self->frame[0], "message", frame_WantHandler(self->frame[0], "message"));		/*SC*/
      }
  
!     if (self->errorBuffer) {
! 	for( i=0; i<self->usercnt; ++i )		/*SC*/
! 	    frame_SetBuffer(self->frame[i], self->errorBuffer, TRUE);	/*SC*/
!     }
      waitCursor = cursor_Create(NULL);
      cursor_SetStandard(waitCursor, Cursor_Wait);
+ 
      return TRUE;
  }
  
***************
*** 522,528 ****
  int ezapp__Run(self)
  struct ezapp *self;
  {
!  
      if(!ezapp_Fork(self))
  	return -1;
  
--- 568,575 ----
  int ezapp__Run(self)
  struct ezapp *self;
  {
!     int i;		/*SC*/
! 
      if(!ezapp_Fork(self))
  	return -1;
  
***************
*** 533,547 ****
          if (self->errorBuffer == NULL) {
              self->buffer = buffer_Create("", NULL, "text", NULL);
              text = (struct text *) buffer_GetData(self->buffer);
!             frame_SetBuffer(self->frame, self->buffer, TRUE);
              text_InsertCharacters(text, 0, INITIALHELP, sizeof(INITIALHELP) - 1);
          }
!         inputFocus = im_GetInputFocus(self->im);
!         view_LoseInputFocus(inputFocus);
!         Startup(self->frame);
          if (self->errorBuffer == NULL) /* If we had to create a buffer to hold the error text. */
              buffer_Destroy(self->buffer);
-         frame_SetTitle(self->frame, NULL);
      }
  
  /* A CheckPointInterval of 0 means don't checkpoint. */
--- 580,599 ----
          if (self->errorBuffer == NULL) {
              self->buffer = buffer_Create("", NULL, "text", NULL);
              text = (struct text *) buffer_GetData(self->buffer);
! 	    for( i=0; i<self->usercnt; ++i ) {  /*SC*/
! 		frame_SetBuffer(self->frame[i], self->buffer, TRUE);
! 	    }
              text_InsertCharacters(text, 0, INITIALHELP, sizeof(INITIALHELP) - 1);
          }
! 	for( i=0; i<self->usercnt; ++i ) {              /*SC*/
! 	  inputFocus = im_GetInputFocus(self->im[i]);         /*SC*/
! 	  view_LoseInputFocus(inputFocus);
! 	  Startup(self->frame[i]);                    /*SC*/
! 	  frame_SetTitle(self->frame[i], NULL);       /*SC*/
! 	}
! 
          if (self->errorBuffer == NULL) /* If we had to create a buffer to hold the error text. */
              buffer_Destroy(self->buffer);
      }
  
  /* A CheckPointInterval of 0 means don't checkpoint. */
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From: mcsun!uknet!edcastle!spider!raft.spider.co.uk!spiderman!scottm@uunet.uu.net  (Scott Mackie)
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Has any brave soul tried to port the Andrew distribution on the X11R5 tape
up on to any RISCos 4.52 machines (mainly R2XXX or R3XXX boxes)?

I've put a tentative toe in the water and got burned in the overhead/class/cmd
stuff (the dynamic loader/indexer I presume). 

If anyone's ported the source or has any advice I'd welcome mail from them.

Cheers

Scott......

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The only graphical AMS client I know of is messages.  A future version of 
macmail may have some translation of ATK fonts and styles.  We are working on 
a new version of macmail for the next six months the feature set hasn't been 
pined down yet.    I will post on info-andrew when we know.

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Hi Fred,


Yes, this is pretty much what I want to do, namely

center the raster and scale it (relative) to one-third

usual size (possibly then center it again as this does

not always leave it centered after doing the scaling),

and do this in one keystroke !


Unfortunately I cannot use Ness as this part of our

Andrew build (version 5 on HP-UX on the hp300)

did not work and there will not be time to sort this 

out before the demo for which I need the auto-scaling.


Have you (or anyone else) got any other suggestions 

please ? Could you tell me how to write the Ness

script you mailed me in C ? 


Thanks,

Lee  Boswell





\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from mail: 11-Nov-91 Re: operations for raster Fred 
Hansen@andrew.cmu.e (1553)}


\quotation{The best way is (unfortunately) to write C code, but something like 
what

}\quotation{you may want is possible with the Ness code below.  It dumps core 
on my

}\quotation{machine, but that may be hardware specific.

}
\quotation{Your message is fuzzy as to exactly what sort of scaling you want. 
 Do

}\quotation{you want the bits changed or merely thesize of their image on the

}\quotation{screen.  (The latter is implemented below.)

}

\quotation{To TEST COMPILE this code:

}\quotation{	`ez /tmp/test`  and give further commands to the new ez

}\quotation{	`ESC-TAB ness`  to insert a ness object in the text.

}\quotation{	copy the text below and insert it in the new ness object

}\quotation{	select from the Ness menu card the option

}\quotation{		`Empower-Compile`

}\quotation{The compilation takes a while because it parses a number of .ch 
files.

}\quotation{ONLY IF IT SUCCEEDS should you modify your .ezinit as indiacted in 
the

}\quotation{program below.

}
\quotation{--------------------------------------------

}\quotation{--  Ness code to center a raster image and scale it by one-third

}\quotation{--

}\quotation{-- This code is stored in some file, say 
 /usr/you/nesslib/rastop.n

}\quotation{-- Then the file is loaded into your program by adding these lines 
to --

}\quotation{.ezinit:

}\quotation{--		load ness

}\quotation{--		call ness-load /usr/you/nesslib/rastop.n

}
\quotation{--$enable class access

}
\quotation{extend "view:rasterview"

}\quotation{	on menu "ScaleThird"

}\quotation{		rasterv_center_image(currentinset)

}\quotation{		rasterv_SetScale(CurrentInset, rasterview_GetScale()/3)

}\quotation{	end menu

}\quotation{end extend

}


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I am having a hard time building the Andrew system on the dec station
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	Question 1.  How do you successfully build the Andrew system on 
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    	Question 2. I am getting undefined symbols in some links, and Make
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\quotation{Unfortunately I cannot use Ness as this part of our

Andrew build (version 5 on HP-UX on the hp300)

did not work 

}
Too bad.  If anyone can give me more information, we can get this fixed.  


I responded further to Lee's question with the C code solution below.


Fred Hansen


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from maillog: 11-Nov-91 Re: operations for raster 
=> L. Boswell@iag.hp.com (1101+0)}


\quotation{If you do want to fool with C code, you could simply revise 
$ANDREWDIR/atk/raster/cmd/rasterv.c.   You would add something like the 
routines below (I will not have time to test this).

}
\quotation{I've used the keystrokes ESC-^ and the menu RasterOps:Scale/3.


}

\quotation{static void CenterThirdCommand(self)

}\quotation{struct rasterview *self;

}\quotation{\{

}\quotation{	struct raster *ras = (struct raster 
*)rasterview_GetDataObject(self);

}\quotation{	struct rasterimage *pix, *new;

}
\quotation{	if ((ras == NULL) || ((pix = raster_GetPix(ras)) == NULL)) 

}\quotation{		return;

}
\quotation{	rasterview_SetScale(self, self->Scale/3);

}\quotation{	CenterViewSelection(self);

}\quotation{	/* here we may want rasterview_WantNewSize(self, self); */

}\quotation{	rasterimage_NotifyObservers(pix, rasterview_SCALECHANGED);

}\quotation{\}

}

\quotation{additional text for rasterview__InitializeClass:

}
\quotation{    proc = proctable_DefineProc("rasterv-center-and-third", 
CenterThirdCommand,

}\quotation{				 &rasterview_classinfo, NULL,

}\quotation{				 "Center the image and scale it to one third");

}\quotation{    keymap_BindToKey(EmbeddedKeymap, "\\033^", proc, 0);	/* ESC - 
^ */	

}\quotation{    menulist_AddToML(EmbeddedMenus, "Raster Ops~20,Scale/3~32", 
proc, 0, menuScale);

}

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Apparently the R5 release of Andrew has BROKEN the famous Girl Scout cookies 
demo!  Now the individual sliders all work, but they don't cause the total 
ordered or the cost to be incremented.  This is clearly a disaster of epic 
proportions!  The R5 release should be recalled immediately!


Well, OK, so it isn't quite that bad, but I am actually saddened to see it 
broken...  -- Nathaniel


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This is an active message.  You can use it to order Girl Scout Cookies.  If 
you hit the "send" button, I'll really get you the cookies.  When you're done, 
use the middle mouse button to choose the "Quit" menu.


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\center{\bold{Instructions

}}
Set the sliders above to the number of boxes of each type desired. The total 
number ordered and the total cost will be displayed at the right. Click the 
Send Order button to mail the specified cookie order to nsb. 

 ____________________________________________________


\majorheading{COOKIE DESCRIPTIONS}


\bold{Chocolate Chip} \bold{Honey Glazed Cookies}

An all natural, fiber rich cookie. New Recipe, 25% less sugar, sweetened with 
real fruit juice.  25% less salt, No cholesterol, low in fat. Only 35 calories 
per cookie. 7.5 oz.   Approx. 28 cookies


\bold{Samoas}

Cookies covered in caramel and coconut with a cocoa coating. \italic{The 
world's most deliciously different cookie. }7.5 oz. Approx. 14 cookies\italic{

}
\bold{Cabana Creams,

}Sandwich Cookie Assortment.

Two stay fresh packs in one box. Two zesty tastes... Vanilla and lemon. 
\italic{A combination to please everyone.} 8.25 ozs. Approx. 22 cookies


\bold{Thin Mints}

Extra thin and crisp.Made with natural peppermint.

\italic{A Girl Scout Cookie Tradition }10oz. Approx. 40 cookies\italic{

}
\bold{Do-si-dos}

Oatmeal Peanut Butter Cremes

\italic{Crisp 'n crunchy.} No artificial flavor or color.Naturally good. 9 oz 
Approx. 22 cookies


\bold{Tagalongs}

Peanut Butter Patties

Tasty cookies topped with creamy peanut butter.  7oz. Approx. 15 cookies


\bold{Trefoils}

Old Fashioned Tender Shortbread

Lite and delicious. Guaranteed to melt in your mouth. 10 oz. Approx. 45 
cookies


\indent{\bold{All cookies are made with 100% vegetable shortening and contain 
no preservatives or artificial colors. 

All boxes are $2.25 each.

Please order before Feb. 9th, 1990.


}}You will receive electronic mail  confirming your order 


\italic{\center{Thank you for supporting Girl Scouts. 


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Am trying to install Andrew Release 3 to a Sun 3/260 (SunOS 4.0_Export).
I have not modified any of the configuration files.  During the building
process  I get the following error:

make DESTDIR=/usr/andrew install
rm -f doindex.o
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   __C0095A2B 
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*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall'
Current working directory /home/mit/contrib/toolkits/andrew/overhead/class/cmd
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall'
Current working directory /home/mit/contrib/toolkits/andrew/overhead/class
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall'
Current working directory /home/mit/contrib/toolkits/andrew/overhead
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall'
Current working directory /home/mit/contrib/toolkits/andrew
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World'

What am I doing wrong? Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.  Please reply directly to me.

Regards,

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Thanks to Tom N. for explaining my problem, which should have been
obvious.  The cookie object is not part of the release, and I had to
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How can I make my default printer something other than $PRINTER (e.g.,
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I notice that both transarc.com and andrew.cmu.edu replicate their AMDS mail 
queue volumes, located in /afs/cellname/service/mailqs.


Is there a technical reason why the AMDS queueing area should be replicated?


Thanks,


Bob

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(Wearing an old AMDS hat...)  I believe that this is discussed in something 
like AMDS.ins.


The mail-enqueueing protocol is to find any directory matching 
/afs/CELLNAME/service/mailqs/q* and put your message there.  All such 
directories are presumed equivalent.


Let's say you have three file servers (A, B, C) and three mail queues (q1, q2, 
q3); the mail queues are each separate (small) volumes.  You scatter the 
queues over the available servers, in this case one queue per server.


You mount your mail-queue volumes in the /afs/CELLNAME/service/mailqs 
directory, then replicate the volume holding that directory.  Let's say that 
you put a replica on each of your three servers.


Now, you can enqueue mail for delivery even when one of your file servers goes 
down.  Or even two of them.  AMDS starts looking in 
/afs/CELLNAME/service/mailqs at a random point, then cycles through all the q* 
directories looking for one that's usable.  Because 
 /afs/CELLNAME/service/mailqs is on all three file servers--and let's assume 
that /afs/CELLNAME/service is also--all a client machine needs is one server 
up in order to get to that directory.  Further, since the q* directories are 
scattered on the three servers, at least one of them is available since one 
file server is.  Presto: your mail is enqueued there.


The mail that had been queued in the other q* directories isn't lost, but it's 
ignored until those file servers return to service.


		Craig

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\quotation{I notice that both transarc.com and andrew.cmu.edu replicate their 
AMDS mail queue volumes, located in /afs/cellname/service/mailqs.

}
\quotation{Is there a technical reason why the AMDS queueing area should be 
replicated?

}
Sure.  Here's the scoop:  the whole reason why you want to have several mail 
queues, on several servers, is so that you can still drop off mail when one or 
two servers are down.  Now, if you didn't replicate the parent directory 
(/afs/cellname/service/mailqs) -- then you'd still be vulnerable to this kind 
of outage if the file server on which THAT directory lives happens to go down. 
 In that situation, you could have dozens of available mail queues, but no way 
to get to them because their parent directory is down!  -- Nathaniel


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\quotation{I notice that both transarc.com and andrew.cmu.edu replicate their 
AMDS mail queue volumes, located in /afs/cellname/service/mailqs.

}
\quotation{Is there a technical reason why the AMDS queueing area should be 
replicated?

}
\quotation{Thanks,

}
\quotation{Bob

}

I doubt their queues themselves are replicated 
(/afs/cellname/service/mailqs/q*) since they need to be read/write.  But the 
volume that /afs/cellname/service/mailqs is in is most likely replicated.  You 
want to make sure that that directory is available, even if a server is down, 
so that mail can be delivered to the queues.  We have the volumes containing 
that directory, and all directories above it replicated on all of our servers.




	jeff

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> However, the feature cited by Gary Keim (^U^X-2) doesn't prompt me for
> a hostname.

This feature was added for the MIT R5 release-- ATK 5.0.  Sorry, I
should have said that.

-Gary
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 13-Nov-91 Installing Andrew
Release 3 NetMan@ELSYP.ELSYPNET.GR (1754)

> cc -O -I/usr/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/andrew/include
> -I//usr/include/X11   -o doindex doindex.o ../lib/libclass.a
> ld: Undefined symbol 
>    __C0095A2A 
>    __C0095A2B 
> *** Error code 1

This might be a problem with the optimization.  Go into the Makefile in
andrew/overhead/class/machdep/sun_68k and change CDEBUGFLAGS to be empty
(remove the "-O")

-Gary
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\quotation{Am trying to install Andrew Release 3 ...

}
Do you really mean release 3? Release 3 dates from December 1989 -- we no 
longer support it. You can probably get release 3 to work without much 
trouble, but we've put a lot of effort into improving it over the past 2 
years. I recommend you get release 5.0 (from MIT's X11R5 distribution).


--david anderson, ITC

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\quotation{	I have just compiled andrew with a few hassles !!

}
\quotation{	The first problem was that none of the Makefiles had andrew/config 

}\quotation{added to the INCLUDES def. I thought that the purpose of the imake 
command

}\quotation{at the start would have been to do this ! Did I miss something ? 
The steps I

}\quotation{followed were

}
The default value of the Make macro INCLUDES is :


INCLUDES =  -I$\{BASEDIR\}/include/atk -I$\{BASEDIR\}/include -I$\{XINCDIR\}


You may have overriden this value in your site.mcr file.


Allsys.h would be installed into your /usr/local/andrew/include directory.  If 
it's not, go to the top-level of the source tree and run:


% make clean; make install


The configuration files should be installed.  Which brings up your next 
question.


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from misc: 8-Nov-91 compiling andrew 5.0.0 Simon 
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\quotation{	The second question I have is that when it is finished everything 
is

}\quotation{linked back from my DESTDIR ( /usr/local/andrew ) to where the 
contrib sources

}\quotation{are ! I don't want this anything that needs to be installed I 
would like to be

}\quotation{copied to my DESTDIR.

}
Right, almost all of the files in your destination directories will be links 
back to the combined source/object tree.  By default, this is the case and we 
call it a LINKINSTALL_ENV.  See the top-level README file for details.  In 
short, #undef LINKINSTALL_ENV in your site.h file.


Gary Keim

ATK Group

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\quotation{How can I make my default printer something other than $PRINTER 
(e.g.,

}\quotation{$LASER)?  Sometimes it makes sense for $PRINTER to be a line 
printer,

}\quotation{and $LASER to be a laser printer.  Setting print.spooldir doesn't 
have

}\quotation{any effect.  (I user BSD printing facilities, and have 
print.nonandrew:1

}\quotation{in my AndrewSetup file.)

}
Try:


% help preferences


You can set preferences based on enviornment variables.  I hope that helps.


Gary Keim

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I find it mildly annoying that when I do an "\bold{Append to File}" of a 
message in \bold{messages}, it gets written out to the file with a 
\italic{text822} class header, and not as \italic{plain text}. Typically, I 
need to save a message into a plain vanilla file without the \italic{text822} 
stuff when I receive a \italic{uuencode}d file in mail and I want to save it 
in a file. Ideally, I would like to save just the \italic{uuencode}d portion 
in a file. Is there a simple way of doing this in \bold{messages}?


Thanks.

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\quotation{I find it mildly annoying that when I do an "Append to File" of a 
}\quotation{message in messages, it gets written out to the file with a 
text822 }\quotation{class header, and not as plain text.

}
AMEN!!!!  (For me it's more than mildly annoying, but I'm more easily annoyed 
than most.  :-)  )


Isn't there **SOME** way we can fix this?


-wdc

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Jishnu Mukerji@usl.com (607+0)}


\quotation{I find it mildly annoying that when I do an "\bold{Append to File}" 
of a message in \bold{messages}, it gets written out to the file with a 
\italic{text822} class header, and not as \italic{plain text}.

}
I still use the 'hack' I've used for some time now, and posted about a while 
ago - the \bold{filter-filter-region} command:


I bind \bold{filter-filter-region} to \bold{^X^F} (use whatever you want - or 
put it on a menu).  


Simple use:

\description{\leftindent{1) Select contents of message you want transfered to 
a file as plain-text

2) Invoke \bold{filter-filter-region}

3) At the prompt "Command: " at the bottom of the window (message-line) type:

	\bold{cat > /tmp/foo\bold{

	}}(use whatever filename you want)

4) Hit <Enter> (or <Return>)

5) When you see the message that says "Done." in the message-line, the file 
has been written - check it out.

}}
For multiple posts - like multi-post shar files - I use a keyboard macro like 
so:

\description{\leftindent{0) mkdir /tmp/mumble

1) Start off with the message just prior to the first of the shar posts on 
display - and begin recording the macro by typing: \bold{^X}-\bold{(}

2) Type 'n' to go to the next post (the first of the shar posts)

3) Type \bold{^S} to search forward for "\bold{#!}".

4) Type \bold{^A} to get to the begining of the line.

5) Type \bold{Alt}-\bold{>} to get to the end of the post.

6) Type \bold{^R} to seach backward for "\bold{exit}".

7) Type \bold{^A^N} to get to the begining of the line just following the line 
containing the word "exit"

8) Type \bold{\bold{Ctrl}}-\bold{Alt}-\bold{<space>} to select the entire 
contents of the shar file.

9) Invoke \bold{filter-filter-region}

10) At the 'Command:' prompt, type "\bold{cat > /tmp/mumble/p}" (do NOT hit 
<enter>)

11) Type \bold{^X}-\bold{)} to end the macro.

12) Type \bold{1} (you're still in the message-line) and then \bold{<Enter>}

13) Type \bold{^X}-\bold{e} to run the macro.

14) Type \bold{2} (you're in the message-line) and then \bold{<Enter>}

15) repeate steps \bold{13} and \bold{14} (incrementing the value typed) 
through all the posts - the rest you should be able to figure out for 
yourself.

}}
Although the above looks rather long and cumbersome - it turns out to be very 
easy to do after a little bit of practice.


--fish\
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\quotation{One could relatively easily write something that bound this kind of

}\quotation{functionality to a menu or keystroke, using the initfiles 
mechanism.  To

}\quotation{my knowledge, nobody has yet done this, however.  -- Nathaniel

}
I may be missing something, but the problem seems to be deeper than one that 
can be fixed by \italic{initfile}. Of course I would love to be proved wrong.


It is this \italic{text822} thing that has a method for \bold{ReadAsText}, but 
no corresponding method to \bold{WriteAsText}, and the regular \bold{Write} is 
overridden by its own little (actually medium sized) \bold{Write} method that 
sticks in that \italic{text822} header even when there is just plain old text 
with no styles, insets etc. within the buffer. I can see why that might be the 
right behavior - because a file written out thus, when viewed via \italic{ez} 
shows the header lines with bold field identifiers etc., However, it seems to 
me that to compensate for the loss of simple \bold{Write} via overriding, 
there should be a method in \italic{text822} that writes the buffer in a file 
as plain text, sort of like what happens when the message is sent 
\italic{unformatted}. However, I haven't been able to figure out how to 
capture that behavior via something in the initfile.


Another craziness is that the documentation to \bold{Append to File} claims 
that the "\italic{Body}" of the message is appended to the file, but in 
actuality, the whole message including every itsy bitsy header and all is 
stuck into the file. this appears to be a bug either in the documentation or 
in the code.


\center{\bold{
}\flushright{\flushleft{\bold{Jishnu Mukerji},  

\smaller{\italic{jis@usl.com}, 

\italic{+1 908 }522 5024,  }

\smaller{\italic{\smaller{\bold{UNIX System Laboratories Inc.*

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>Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 13-Nov-91 Installing Andrew
>Release 3 NetMan@ELSYP.ELSYPNET.GR (1754)

>> cc -O -I/usr/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/andrew/include
>> -I//usr/include/X11   -o doindex doindex.o ../lib/libclass.a
>> ld: Undefined symbol 
>>    __C0095A2A 
>>    __C0095A2B 
>> *** Error code 1

>This might be a problem with the optimization.  Go into the Makefile in
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>(remove the "-O")

>-Gary


We had this same symptom on another package... the problem turned out to be that we had mixed nonDES includes/DES libc.so.x.x on out system.  These symbols are defined in SUN's libc.so.x.x without DES but disappear when DES is installed.
(We installed a new libc.so.x.x which replaced SUN's resolver modules, it came from a machine with DES installed.

Sorry if this appears twice, I do not think the first posting saw the light of day.




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\quotation{I still use the 'hack' I've used for some time now, and posted 
about a

}\quotation{while ago - the filter-filter-region command:

}
\quotation{I bind filter-filter-region to ^X^F (use whatever you want - or put 
it

}\quotation{on a menu).  

}
\quotation{Simple use:

}\quotation{        1) Select contents of message you want transfered to a 
file as

}\quotation{        plain-text

}\quotation{        2) Invoke filter-filter-region

}\quotation{        3) At the prompt "Command: " at the bottom of the window

}\quotation{        (message-line) type:

}\quotation{                cat > /tmp/foo

}\quotation{                (use whatever filename you want)

}\quotation{        4) Hit <Enter> (or <Return>)

}\quotation{        5) When you see the message that says "Done." in the

}\quotation{        message-line, the file has been written - check it out.

}
That works really neat. I wrote two little shell scripts, one that uudecodes 
the region and another that uudecodes and then uncompresses the region. 
Optionally a directory can be specified as an argument to these scripts, in 
which case the file created by the filter is placed in the specified 
directory. Then I invoke one of these depending on what is in the region that 
I am filtering, and bingo I have the file appropriately unpacked.


Thank you.


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\smaller{\italic{jis@usl.com}, 

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Checking that BASEDIR is not the location of the source files.
Checking Destination Directories....
c -m 0444 config/ImakeMacros.d  /doc/ImakeMacros.d
make: Fatal error: Cannot load command `c': No such file or directory

I am building andrew on a Sun386i using gcc 1.40. I have already built X11R5
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From the excerpt above, it appears INSTALL="" and so the command is bad.

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\quotation{I am building andrew on a Sun386i using gcc 1.40. 

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Though there have been ports to the 386 for various platforms, there has yet 
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attr:[FontSize ConstantFontSize Point 12]}
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menu:[Region~4,Itemize~31]
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menu:[Region~4,Enumerate~30]
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 15-Nov-91 AMS annoyance 
Jishnu Mukerji@usl.com (607+0)}


\quotation{I find it mildly annoying that when I do an "\bold{Append to File}" 
of a message in \bold{messages}, it gets written out to the file with a 
\italic{text822} class header, and not as \italic{plain text}. Typically, I 
need to save a message into a plain vanilla file without the \italic{text822} 
stuff when I receive a \italic{uuencode}d file in mail and I want to save it 
in a file. Ideally, I would like to save just the \italic{uuencode}d portion 
in a file. Is there a simple way of doing this in \bold{messages}?

}

I've written a small piece of Ness code to save pieces of a message as plain 
text.


In my .messagesinit file I have these lines:


	include /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr13/wjh/.atkinit

	load ness

	call ness-load /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr13/wjh/nesslib/msgs.n


(You will have to use your own path name and remove the first line if you have 
no .atkinit)


Then in the file   /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr13/wjh/nesslib/msgs.n  I have:


    extend "view:messwind"

	on menu "Maillog"

		messages_file_all_marked(currentwindow, "maillog")

		messages_clear_marks(currentwindow)

	end menu

	on menu "This Message,Append to Plain File"

		marker home := system("echo $HOME")

		marker text, f

		if last(home) = "\\n" then replace(last(home), "") end if

		f := AskUser("(Ness) Append selected text to file: ", 

					home ~ "/SavedMsg")

		if f = "CANCEL" then  	-- do nothing

		elif system("touch " ~ f ~ " 2>&1") /= "" then

			-- probably failed

			TellUser("Can't write to "~ f)

		else

			messages_focus_on_bodies()

			text := copy(currentselection(currentinputfocus))

			clearstyles(text)

			writefile("/tmp/$$$$savemsg", text)

			system("cat /tmp/\\\\$\\\\$\\\\$\\\\$savemsg >> " 

					~ f ~ "; rm /tmp/\\\\$\\\\$\\\\$\\\\$savemsg")

			TellUser("Appended")

		end if

	end menu

    end extend



The menu option Maillog will put all marked messages in the folder "Maillog" 
and remove the marks. 


To save plain text, I select the text I want and then choose "Append to Plain 
File" from the "This Message" menu.  


It shouldn't be hard to revise this to select only  the body parts of shar 
script messages, but I won't here take the risk of publishing unchecked code. 
 


Have Fun,

Fred Hansen


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>We had this same symptom on another package...  the problem turned out
>to be that we had mixed nonDES includes/DES libc.so.x.x on out system. 

"nonDES" presumably meaning "on a SunOS 4.1[.x] system without the
encryption package" and "DES" presumably meaning "on a SunOS 4.1[.x]
system with the encryption package", "the encryption package" here being
the package that US and, I think, Canadian customers can buy for SunOS
4.1[.x] that gives the "crypt" command, versions of the "ed" and
"ex"/"vi" text editors that can handle encrypted files, and access to
various DES encryption/decryption routines in the C library.

The USA's tax dollars, hard at work....
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The "README.ez" file in the "site" directory incorrectly refers to
"SITE_DEF" rather than "SITE_ENV":

*** README.ez.dist	Wed Oct  2 21:25:39 1991
--- README.ez	Mon Nov 18 18:11:57 1991
***************
*** 8,17 ****
  \italic{site} directory, as distributed, contains this file, and a skeletal 
  \italic{Imakefile}. To build the \italic{site} directory as a part of a 
  regular \italic{Andrew} "make World" or "make dependInstall" define the macro 
! \bold{SITE_DEF} in the file \italic{config/site.h} before doing the "make 
  Makefiles". Build the \italic{site} directory only if there is something in 
  there to build. You can always add the site directory to the list of things to 
! be built by defining \bold{SITE_DEF} in \italic{config/site.h} and then 
  re-making the \italic{Makefile} at the top level using:
  
  
--- 8,17 ----
  \italic{site} directory, as distributed, contains this file, and a skeletal 
  \italic{Imakefile}. To build the \italic{site} directory as a part of a 
  regular \italic{Andrew} "make World" or "make dependInstall" define the macro 
! \bold{SITE_ENV} in the file \italic{config/site.h} before doing the "make 
  Makefiles". Build the \italic{site} directory only if there is something in 
  there to build. You can always add the site directory to the list of things to 
! be built by defining \bold{SITE_ENV} in \italic{config/site.h} and then 
  re-making the \italic{Makefile} at the top level using:
  
  
***************
*** 34,40 ****
   If you want to use your own \italic{imake rules} that are not defined in 
  \italic{config/andrew.rls}, you can do so by defining these additional 
  \italic{imake rules} in the file \italic{config/site.rls}. Whenever 
! \bold{SITE_DEF} is defined \italic{config/site.rls} is automatically appended 
  to \italic{config/andrew.rls} before it is used to make the 
  \italic{Makefiles}. The file \italic{config/site.rls}, as distributed, is an 
  empty file. 
--- 34,40 ----
   If you want to use your own \italic{imake rules} that are not defined in 
  \italic{config/andrew.rls}, you can do so by defining these additional 
  \italic{imake rules} in the file \italic{config/site.rls}. Whenever 
! \bold{SITE_ENV} is defined \italic{config/site.rls} is automatically appended 
  to \italic{config/andrew.rls} before it is used to make the 
  \italic{Makefiles}. The file \italic{config/site.rls}, as distributed, is an 
  empty file. 
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1) note that ATK runs under SunOS 4.0[.x] on Sun-3 and Sun-4, as well as
   under SunOS 4.1[.x].

2) note that ATK runs under SunOS 4.1[.x] on Sun-3s, as well as on
   Sun-4s.

3) fix minor typoes.

4) note that my GDB 4.1 fix is in GDB 4.2.

5) fix the pathname for Open Windows fonts.

*** README.ez.dist	Fri Oct  4 11:20:51 1991
--- README.ez	Mon Nov 18 17:54:58 1991
***************
*** 104,114 ****
  }
  The Andrew Distribution is portable to a number of system types. Andrew is 
  able to run on RT AOS 3.4, RT AIX 2.2.1, RS/6000 AIX3.1, PS/2 AIX1.2, Sun3 
! 3.5, Sun3 4.1, Sun4 4.1, Vax Ultrix 3.1, Vax Ultrix 4.2, Vax BSD, DEC MIPS, 
! SCO I386, SGI IRIX 4.0, Apollo, HP, and Macintosh II MacMach. We run it on 
! RS/6000 AIX3.1 and RT AOS. (The port to HP/UX 8.0 is complete, but not merged 
! into this release. We intend to include this in the first patch to this 
! release: ATK 5.1.)
  
  
  As shipped, the Andrew Toolkit distribution is about 32 megabytes of source 
--- 104,114 ----
  }
  The Andrew Distribution is portable to a number of system types. Andrew is 
  able to run on RT AOS 3.4, RT AIX 2.2.1, RS/6000 AIX3.1, PS/2 AIX1.2, Sun3 
! 3.5, Sun3 4.0, Sun4 4.0, Sun3 4.1, Sun4 4.1, Vax Ultrix 3.1, Vax Ultrix 4.2, 
! Vax BSD, DEC MIPS, SCO I386, SGI IRIX 4.0, Apollo, HP, and Macintosh II 
! MacMach. We run it on RS/6000 AIX3.1 and RT AOS. (The port to HP/UX 8.0 is 
! complete, but not merged into this release. We intend to include this in the 
! first patch to this release: ATK 5.1.)
  
  
  As shipped, the Andrew Toolkit distribution is about 32 megabytes of source 
***************
*** 211,216 ****
--- 211,218 ----
  
  Sun 3				SunOS 4.0			sun3_4
  
+ Sun 3				SunOS 4.1			sun3_41
+ 
  Sun 4				SunOS 4.0			sun4_40
  
  Sun 4				SunOS 4.1			sun4_41
***************
*** 902,908 ****
  \bold{
  }\indent{AFS_ENV is defined if the Andrew File System is being used. This is a 
  distributed file system available from Transarc Corporation. For more 
! information, please send mail to afsinfo@transarc.com If AFS_ENV is defined, 
  it is assumed that the following files will be available under AFSBASEDIR 
  :}\indent{
  
--- 904,910 ----
  \bold{
  }\indent{AFS_ENV is defined if the Andrew File System is being used. This is a 
  distributed file system available from Transarc Corporation. For more 
! information, please send mail to afsinfo@transarc.com.  If AFS_ENV is defined, 
  it is assumed that the following files will be available under AFSBASEDIR 
  :}\indent{
  
***************
*** 1132,1138 ****
  
  
  As of ATK 4.10.0 (what we used to call ATK 17.0) there is support for the 
! SunOS4.1 native dynamic loader. Unfortunately, SUN has not made dbx cognizant 
  of any dynamically-loaded symbols. There is a patch set located on 
  emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu that, when applied to gdb 3.5, provides a new command, 
  "add-dlopened-files", which finds out what objects have been loaded since the 
--- 1134,1140 ----
  
  
  As of ATK 4.10.0 (what we used to call ATK 17.0) there is support for the 
! SunOS4.1 native dynamic loader. Unfortunately, Sun has not made dbx cognizant 
  of any dynamically-loaded symbols. There is a patch set located on 
  emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu that, when applied to gdb 3.5, provides a new command, 
  "add-dlopened-files", which finds out what objects have been loaded since the 
***************
*** 1160,1166 ****
  actually loaded, but not the end of text address. One consequence of this is 
  that you can't always (can't ever?) step into a routine in a "dlopen()"ed 
  shareable object. The following patch appears to fix that (and has been sent 
! to "bug-gdb"):
  
  
  \typewriter{\smaller{*** dbxread.c.dist	Fri Sep 20 23:47:25 1991
--- 1162,1168 ----
  actually loaded, but not the end of text address. One consequence of this is 
  that you can't always (can't ever?) step into a routine in a "dlopen()"ed 
  shareable object. The following patch appears to fix that (and has been sent 
! to "bug-gdb", and appears in GDB 4.2):
  
  
  \typewriter{\smaller{*** dbxread.c.dist	Fri Sep 20 23:47:25 1991
***************
*** 1956,1963 ****
  
  \leftindent{$\{ANDREWDIR\}/X11fonts -ATK specific fonts for X}
  
! \leftindent{$\{ANDREWDIR\}/xnwsfnts - ATK fonts for running under Open Windows 
! (if enabled)
  
  $\{ANDREWDIR\}/lib/tpls - Style templates for text-oriented objects}
  
--- 1958,1965 ----
  
  \leftindent{$\{ANDREWDIR\}/X11fonts -ATK specific fonts for X}
  
! \leftindent{$\{ANDREWDIR\}/Xnewsfonts - ATK fonts for running under Open 
! Windows (if enabled)
  
  $\{ANDREWDIR\}/lib/tpls - Style templates for text-oriented objects}
  
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 19-Nov-91 
Installing Andrew 5.0 w/ sh.. Darrell Schiebel@cs.wvu. (1165)}


\quotation{I've been tring to install Andrew 5.0 on a Sun IPC tonight, and

}\quotation{	I ran into what could be a problem. The first attempted build

}\quotation{	failed because libX11.a couldn't be found. Reasonable, since

}\quotation{	I had built a shared X11R5 libraries. So with find, grep and

}\quotation{	epoch I went through the Imakefiles and replaced libX11.a with

}\quotation{	libX11.so.4.10. Seemed the obvious solution, but then I started

}\quotation{	wondering about these shared libraries being linked into dynamic

}\quotation{	object, etc. 

}
Actually, it works just fine with shared libraries.  All you need to do is 
specify the macro XLIBDIR in site.mcr like so:


        XLIBDIR = /usr/X.V11R5/lib


If this doesn't work let me know.


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 19-Nov-91 
Installing Andrew 5.0 w/ sh.. Darrell Schiebel@cs.wvu. (1165)}


\quotation{	Second question, I don't have ditroff or transcript ... does this

}\quotation{	mean I'll be able to edit documents, but not print?? If so

}\quotation{	where are ditroff, and transcript purchaseable from?? I looked

}\quotation{	on uunet.uu.net, prep.ai.mit.edu, emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu, etc.

}\quotation{	and concluded that the must be commercial.

}
The Free Software Foundation apparently has something that will work.


Gary Keim

ATK Group


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\italic{I have built the Andrew distribution against Open Windows 2.0 and 
X11R4 on

a Sparcstation 2 running SunOS 4.1.1.  When running most of the Andrew

apps I get numerous X errors.  Mostly BadFont errors.  Any ideas?

}
Yeah - does the OpenWindows Server deal with .bdf fonts?  Or .snf fonts?  Or 
does it only deal with it's type of fonts (.fb and .ff ?)


Krishna Sethuraman

krishna@athena.mit.edu

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From: auspex!guy@uunet.uu.net  (Guy Harris)
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As it comes with ATK 5.0, "tm" has the notion that it saves only 10,000
characters of history hardcoded into it.  This is Not Good; sometimes
you need to save *lots* of history.  It's better to have a "maxsize"
resource that you can set, as is the case with "typescript":

*** tm.ch.dist	Wed Oct  2 20:39:46 1991
--- tm.ch.longhistory	Sat Oct 19 16:54:37 1991
***************
*** 115,120 ****
--- 115,122 ----
  	struct environment *cmdEnv,*screenEnv;
  	int mode;
  	boolean remote;
+ 	long maxsize;
+ 	long extraroom;
  	char *(*escapes[256])();
  	char *(*state)();
  	boolean currentlyReadingTemplateKluge;

*** tm.c.dist	Wed Oct  2 20:39:44 1991
--- tm.c.longhistory	Sat Oct 19 16:50:35 1991
***************
*** 889,894 ****
--- 889,897 ----
      self->ptyFile=NULL;
      self->pid=0;
  
+     self->maxsize = environ_GetProfileInt("maxsize", 10000);
+     self->extraroom = self->maxsize / 5;
+ 
      for(i=0;i<' ';i++)
  	self->escapes[i]=cntlChar;
      for(i=' ';i<256;i++)
***************
*** 1353,1362 ****
      }
  #endif /* HACKEDNOECHO */
  
! #define MAXLEN 10000
! 
!     if(termulator_GetLength(self)>MAXLEN){
! 	long del=termulator_GetLength(self)-MAXLEN+MAXLEN/5;
  
  	if(self->screen>=0 && self->screen<del)
  	    del=self->screen;
--- 1356,1363 ----
      }
  #endif /* HACKEDNOECHO */
  
!     if(termulator_GetLength(self)>self->maxsize){
! 	long del=termulator_GetLength(self)-self->maxsize+self->extraroom;
  
  	if(self->screen>=0 && self->screen<del)
  	    del=self->screen;
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	I am trying to install andrew 5.0 on an ss2 running sun os 4.1.1 b
and X11R5. I keep getting the problem that the makefiles in the subdirectories
do not know where to find the configuration header files ( ie in ./config ).

	I assumeed that the imake command given in the docs would take care of
this for me but it didn't.

	The other problem I am having is that andrew doesn't actually install
anything it simply makes links which means that if I want to have it running
I need to leave the source code there which I don't want to do. Can anyone
tell me how I can make it actually install all the neccessary things.

Thanks
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Is there any way to change the font of the PopupMenus in Andrew appliations?
The way to change Menubar fonts is documented (TitleFont and ItemFont
resources), however, I can't find anything about the cards/popup menus.

	Thanks,

	Gordon Edwards
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from misc: 20-Nov-91 PopupMenu Fonts Gordon 
Edwards@uunet.uu. (286)}


\quotation{Is there any way to change the font of the PopupMenus in Andrew 
appliations?

}\quotation{The way to change Menubar fonts is documented (TitleFont and 
ItemFont

}\quotation{resources), however, I can't find anything about the cards/popup 
menus.

}
From the cmenu help file:


\bold{\italic{PopupTitleFont:} AndySans12b	}\italic{(TitleFont)}

\leftindent{Controls the font that is used for the title of each menu pane. 
 Any valid X font may be used.}


\bold{\italic{PopupItemFont:} AndySans12b	}\italic{(SelectionFont)}

\leftindent{Controls the font that is used for each item on the menus.  Any 
valid X font may be used.}


Note that you can set cmenu preferences in you preferences file now. You used 
to have to put them in .Xdefaults.


Gary Keim

ATK Group

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From: auspex!guy@uunet.uu.net  (Guy Harris)
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>I have built the Andrew distribution against Open Windows 2.0 and X11R4 on
>a Sparcstation 2 running SunOS 4.1.1.  When running most of the Andrew
>apps I get numerous X errors.  Mostly BadFont errors.  Any ideas?

Do you have a recent Andrew distribution, and did you turn the "build
the Open Windows fonts" option on, *and* did you copy the resulting
fonts from the directory they get dumped in over to the "X11fonts"
directory (they don't get dumped there by default)?  (NOTE: you'll have
to apply the patches I sent out to get ATK 5.0 to build the OW fonts
properly; the Imakefiles differ as to where they think the fonts should
be dumped.)

>Yeah - does the OpenWindows Server deal with .bdf fonts?  Or .snf fonts?
> Or does it only deal with it's type of fonts (.fb and .ff ?)

Few, if any, servers deal with ".bdf" fonts.  Most require that fonts be
compiled into one of the server's "native" formats.

The OW server doesn't deal with ".snf" fonts.  "convertfont" can,
however, compile ".bdf" fonts into the OW server's native format; I
believe BDF is a Consortium standard, so anything that calls itself X11
(as OW does) has to handle ".bdf" fonts.
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.cmu.info-andrew: 15-Nov-91 Re: AMS
annoyance Bill Cattey@RCHGATE.rchl (392+0)}


\quotation{\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from mail: 15-Nov-91 AMS annoyance
Jishnu Mukerji@usl.com (607)}

}
\quotation{\quotation{I find it mildly annoying that when I do an "Append to
File" of a }\quotation{message in messages, it gets written out to the file
with a text822 }\quotation{class header, and not as plain text.

}}
\quotation{AMEN!!!!  (For me it's more than mildly annoying, but I'm more
easily annoyed than most.  :-)  )

}
\quotation{Isn't there **SOME** way we can fix this?

}
It seems to me that it should be "fixed", too.  I say "fixed" because, unless
I'm missing something, the menu card implies that plain text will be written
out (by using the term "Append to File").  It's hard to imagine the situation
where anyone would want an ATK datastream appended to anything.


-wr

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messages (Version 7.15, ATK 17.0), when started in an iconic state, waits to 
be deiconified before actually doing anything.  Since there is no '-iconic' 
switch nor preference (that I can find), I use TWM's StartIconified list.


I'm no Andrew programmer, but I was looking in the ness documentation and saw 
something disturbing that might also be at work here.  In 
/usr/andrew/doc/atk/nessauth.doc:


\quotation{\subsection{2.3  Interactive Nessrun applications}

}\quotation{.

}\quotation{.

}\quotation{.

}
\quotation{A program design may require action when an object first beomes 
visible on the screen.  To do so, the extend block for any named object can 
contain on event specification for event "BecameVisible";  the code within 
will be called whenever the object first is displayed on the screen.

}
Is messages is doing something like this?  If so, why?


I have a hunch this is not a system-specific bug, but a \italic{feature}.


I had nothing to do with compiling the ATK sources here, but the platform is 
Ultrix 4.1 on DECstation 3100's and 5000's (using AFS & AMDS).


If more information is necessary, I can probably dig that up, too.


Thanks,


Rudy

rm55+@pitt.edu

University of Pittsburgh

Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania

USA

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\quotation{\quotation{A program design may require action when an object first 
beomes visible on the screen.  To do so, the extend block for any named object 
can contain on event specification for event "BecameVisible";  the code within 
will be called whenever the object first is displayed on the screen.

}}
\quotation{Is messages is doing something like this?  If so, why?

}
Messages does not normally execute Ness code at all.


You could have a "call ness-load" line in your .messagesinit, but it couldn't 
be handling a BecameVisible event because it wouldn't know the names of 
objects.


If a message has a Ness script embedded within it, you must "empower" it 
before it is compiled and takes effect.  


Summary:  The comment in nessfunc.d has nothing to do with messages startup 
problems.


Fred Hansen


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Anyone out there tried running Andrew under Open Windows 3.0?  I'm
getting some interesting results with scrollbars when running the
xnews server.

-Brian Levine
 Sun Microsystems
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Many, if not all, of the ATK applications rely on the window being "exposed" 
in order to finish initializing and/or fork - this has nothing to do with 
ness.  


--fish



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From: csus.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!manuel!arp!gustav@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu  (Zdzislaw Meglicki)
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I am just trying to install Andrew Toolkit on Sun 4 running SunOS-4.1.1 and
MIT X11R5. Going through the README I've noticed in section about printing that
Andrew relies on using ditroff - which I don't have installed on my systems.
Question: can I use groff-1.03 or troff that comes with SunOS instead?

Another concern: it is not quite clear from the README how AMS is going
to interact with my sendmail? I run at the moment sendmail-5.65c+IDA-1.4.4.1.
Will I have to modify sendmail or sendmail.cf?
-- 
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This is a "feature" from days long past.  The idea was apparently that 
messages should wait until it gets exposed to draw it's motd (so you actually 
have some time to read it).  The problem is that this is implemented by not 
letting \bold{any} application do anything until it has been exposed (ie 
de-iconified) the first time. 


Sorry,

-Rob\
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Thanks for the info about messages/ATK applications.


I hadn't noticed that other ATK applications also waited to be deiconified, 
because I really only wanted bring up messages as an icon.


Also, I didn't think messages was running ness code; I simply saw that ness 
had the option to do so, and figured that other ATK applications probably also 
had this ability (to wait until they are "seen.")


Maybe someday, someone will fix this?  Or is it still the "desired" behavior? 
 Better yet, can it be overridden with ness code? ;->


Thanks again for your help.


Rudy


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From: haven.umd.edu!cs.wvu.wvnet.edu!schiebel@ames.arc.nasa.gov  (Darrell Schiebel)
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	I've been tring to install Andrew 5.0 on a Sun IPC tonight, and
	I ran into what could be a problem. The first attempted build
	failed because libX11.a couldn't be found. Reasonable, since
	I had built a shared X11R5 libraries. So with find, grep and
	epoch I went through the Imakefiles and replaced libX11.a with
	libX11.so.4.10. Seemed the obvious solution, but then I started
	wondering about these shared libraries being linked into dynamic
	object, etc. 

	Is this going to cause a problem???? It didn't seem particularly
	easy to build the static libX11.a without rebuilding alot...

	Second question, I don't have ditroff or transcript ... does this
	mean I'll be able to edit documents, but not print?? If so
	where are ditroff, and transcript purchaseable from?? I looked
	on uunet.uu.net, prep.ai.mit.edu, emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu, etc.
	and concluded that the must be commercial.

	I guess I got my answer to the first question (sooner than I 
	thought)... the build failed on doindex of "xws.do". 

	... bother


						Any responses would 
						be appreciated,
						Darrell Schiebel
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I personally think this should be fixed.  Other than the messages motd
problem, does anyone know what else might break if it were changed?

Also, I have noticed that Andrew applications never draw their windows
when no window manager is present!  Yeah I know that is rare, but it
seems silly.

Finally, would anyone object to additional ``common'' command line
options (implemented by the application class).  I was thinking in
particular of -iconic and -pref for starting iconic and setting
preferences on the command line.

-todd inglett
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\quotation{\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from misc: 14-Nov-91 Changing default 
printer John Menges@cs.unc.edu (310)}

}
\quotation{\quotation{How can I make my default printer something other than 
$PRINTER (e.g.,

}}\quotation{\quotation{$LASER)?  Sometimes it makes sense for $PRINTER to be 
a line printer,

}}\quotation{\quotation{and $LASER to be a laser printer.  Setting 
print.spooldir doesn't have

}}\quotation{\quotation{any effect.  (I user BSD printing facilities, and have 
print.nonandrew:1

}}\quotation{\quotation{in my AndrewSetup file.)

}}
\quotation{Try:

}
\quotation{% help preferences

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}
\quotation{Gary Keim

}\quotation{ATK Group

}

No, this doesn't help.  I've read 'help preferences', and set 'print.spooldir: 
my_laser_printer', as it directs.  Then I start up an ez editor and select 
'Printer Setup' from the 'File' menu.  The current printer it displays is 
always the same as my PRINTER environment variable, and the print command 
always sends to this printer as well.  The print.spooldir preference is 
ignored.  I'm running PL10.

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Excerpts from org.itc.apars.in: 24-Nov-91 installation on Sun 4 problem
Zdzislaw Meglicki@arp.an (1601)

> What I find most puzzling; how come it hasn't been discovered before!
> I haven't seen any patches to this problem on export.lcs.mit.edu.

This problem had been discovered before.  Unfortunately, we haven't
provided a patch to the X11R5 version of Andrew yet.  There will be a
patch.  You may have been able to determine that there was a fix for
this problem by reading the Netnews:comp.soft-sys.andrew bboard.  Or,
where we have fallen down, there should be a FAQ for that list.  You can
anon ftp an archive of that bboard from host emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu
(128.2.30.62) in the top-level directory ia-archive.

Gary Keim
ATK Group
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That takes *.ch files as input, and generates a class hierarchy list/diagram,
or maybe input for treev...  Anything would be appreciated.  Thanks,
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Is there any software, free or otherwise, that will allow a Mac running the
regular Mac OS to mount disks from a remote UNIX machine running AFS?  I am
thinking of something equivalent to NFS/Share, a commercial package written
by InterCon Systems in Virginia.  Our institution will soon have an archive
machine running AFS, and I would like to take advantage of it on my Mac.

Thanks,
Mike Duncan
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Has anyone successfully compiled Andrew Version 5 on a DEC MIPS machine 
running Ultrix 4.2, linked against AFS 3.1?  When building runapp, I'm getting 
multiply defined symbol errors for object module xdr.o, which appears to 
conflict in /usr/lib/libc.a and /usr/afsws/librx.a.


Thanks,


Bob Dew

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Yup I know what the cause of this is, and what the fix is.
You Won't Like It!

I run the following script before building anything on the DECMIPS platform:

if ($HOSTTYPE == "decmips") then
        if (! -e afsbuild) then
                mkdir afsbuild
                cd afsbuild
                ln -s /usr/local/include .
                mkdir lib
                cd lib
                ln -s /usr/local/lib/* .
                mv librx.a librx.link.a
                cp librx.link.a librx.a
                ar d librx.a xdr.o
                ranlib librx.a
                cd ../..
        endif
endif

It sets up an andrew-hacked version of the AFS libraries and includes to use.
It relies on my having set my site.mcr file as follows:

#ifdef AFS_ENV
        INCLUDES =  -I${BASEDIR}/include/atk -I${BASEDIR}/include
-I$(AFSBASEDIR)/include -I${XINCDIR} -I/usr/athena/include
#else /* AFS_ENV */
        INCLUDES =  -I${BASEDIR}/include/atk -I${BASEDIR}/include
-I${XINCDIR} -I/usr/athena/include
#endif /* AFS_ENV */

#ifdef PMAX_ENV
#ifdef AFS_ENV
        AFSBASEDIR = /mit/andydevo/decmips/afsbuild
#endif /* AFS_ENV */
#endif /* PMAX_ENV */

(Your mcr may vary.)

The problem is that bUgLIX and AFS couldn't agree on which version of
xdr.o to include in libc.a and librx.a respectively.

Yet another gratuitous change forced upon you by the bUbLIX engineering
group...

The fix is to rip out the version of xdr.o that AFS uses.  And compile
that way.

NOTE!  You may well have to do a clean build.  I forget if the
dependency lattice correctly notices that librx.a is newer.

Good luck,
-wdc
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Let me sum up what I've found out about using groff in place of ditroff.
First of all, gtroff works very much the same way as ditroff. It's very
highly compatible - to the extent that you can combine gtroff with psdit
from TranScript. In order to do that, simply put a link from 

	~tran/<machine>/lib/ditroff.font/devpsc

to

	~groff/font/devpsc

You can now invoke gtroff -Tpsc and pass the output directly to lpr -n.

I have compiled groff without any problems with g++-1.39.1. g++ also
compiled gpic, geqn, gtbl. 

I am yet to see how this combination (i.e., gtroff + psdit) will work with
multimedia documents and Andrew's "preview".

Another possibility is to use groff and grops in place of groff and psdit.
Luckily, there is a file tmac.psatk _both_ in ~groff/font/tmac and in
/usr/andrew/lib/tmac. This file implements the ATK PB and PE macros for 
use with groff and grops. The presence of this file in standard Andrew and
groff distributions indicates that the combination of groff with Andrew
is much less exotic than I thought. 

I would like to thank Gary Keim and George Michaelson for their helpful
comments.
-- 
   Zdzislaw Meglicki, gustav@arp.anu.edu.au,
   Automated Reasoning Project - CISR, and Plasma Theory Group - RSPhysS,
   The Australian National University, G.P.O. Box 4, Canberra, A.C.T., 2601, 
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Is the Remote Andrew Demo service available again - if not when will it become
available ? I tried sending this enquiry to rdemo+@andrew.cmu.edu but it was
automatically rejected.

regards,

damian.

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From: agate!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!manuel!arp!gustav@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Zdzislaw Meglicki)
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I've just compiled the minimal Andrew system, brought up a few tools and
gasped in awe! It's magnificent. But...

	1) When I type things into typescript's window, it doesn't echo;
	   the line is only reprinted after I have typed <return>. Is this
	   a _feature_ or a bug? Is there a way to change this behaviour?

	2) I haven't installed the full AMS_DELIVERY_ENV (only the stuff
	   that is turned on by default has been installed). When I invoked
	   messages, I got the following warning:

		Messages in ~/Mailbox could not be properly read and
		delivered...

	   There is nothing in that directory since I didn't "eat mail"
	   (is "eat mail" supposed to transfer messages from my /usr/spool/mail
	   to my ~/Mailbox?) - I actually copied there /usr/andrew/lib/Hello
	   in order to see an example of a multimedia message. Where can
	   I find information for sys-admins about configuring "messages"
	   and AMS?

If the above suggests that I'm completely "green" as far as Andrew is 
concerned then this is just about right. What would be the best way to
bootstrap into it and find out more about things such as configuring the
bulletin board, mailer, etc.?
-- 
   Zdzislaw Meglicki, gustav@arp.anu.edu.au,
   Automated Reasoning Project - CISR, and Plasma Theory Group - RSPhysS,
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Let me sum up what I've found out about using groff in place of ditroff.
First of all, gtroff works very much the same way as ditroff. It's very
highly compatible - to the extent that you can combine gtroff with psdit
from TranScript. In order to do that, simply put a link from 

	~tran/<machine>/lib/ditroff.font/devpsc

to

	~groff/font/devpsc

You can now invoke gtroff -Tpsc and pass the output directly to lpr -n.

I have compiled groff without any problems with g++-1.39.1. g++ also
compiled gpic, geqn, gtbl. 

I am yet to see how this combination (i.e., gtroff + psdit) will work with
multimedia documents and Andrew's "preview".

Another possibility is to use groff and grops in place of groff and psdit.
Luckily, there is a file tmac.psatk _both_ in ~groff/font/tmac and in
/usr/andrew/lib/tmac. This file implements the ATK PB and PE macros for 
use with groff and grops. The presence of this file in standard Andrew and
groff distributions indicates that the combination of groff with Andrew
is much less exotic than I thought. 

I would like to thank Gary Keim and George Michaelson for their helpful
comments.
-- 
   Zdzislaw Meglicki, gustav@arp.anu.edu.au,
   Automated Reasoning Project - CISR, and Plasma Theory Group - RSPhysS,
   The Australian National University, G.P.O. Box 4, Canberra, A.C.T., 2601, 
   Australia, fax: (Australia)-6-249-0747, tel: (Australia)-6-249-0158
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Date: 27 Nov 91 05:11:14 GMT
From: agate!spool.mu.edu!munnari.oz.au!manuel!arp!gustav@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Zdzislaw Meglicki)
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I have encountered only two problems during my recent installation of
Andrew on my SPARCstations. I run SunOS4.1.1, X11R5, and I've been
installing version 5.0.0 of Andrew. 

My site.mcr file was:

   XBASEDIR =
   XUTILDIR = /usr/bin/X11
   RESOLVLIB = /usr/lib/libresolv.a

and my site.h:

   #ifndef CONTRIB_ENV
   #define CONTRIB_ENV 1
   #endif

   #ifndef MK_BASIC_UTILS
   #define MK_BASIC_UTILS 1
   #endif

   #ifndef MK_AUTHORING
   #define MK_AUTHORING 1
   #endif

   #ifndef MK_AUX_UTILS
   #define MK_AUX_UTILS 1
   #endif

   #ifndef MK_AUX_INSETS
   #define MK_AUX_INSETS 1
   #endif

   #ifdef LINKINSTALL_ENV
   #undef LINKINSTALL_ENV
   #endif

In other words I've asked for the lot with the exception of AMDS and White
Pages. 

The installation problems were as follows:

1) In andrew/atk/adew/celv.ch:

   diff celv.ch celv.ch.ORIG
   68c68
   <     GetAppFlag() ((self)->AddAppLayer)
   ---
   >     GetAppFlag ((self)->AddAppLayer)

   Lack of "()" in the original version of that file resulted in 
   the compiler error.

2) "make World" didn't make Makefiles in the "contrib" directory - so that
   when "make dependInstall" attempted to work on "contrib" it didn't know
   what to do - I've made Makefiles in that directory by hand and restarted
   the process. This problem must have been caused by CONTRIB being omitted
   from the list of DIRS in the main Imakefile - whereas defining CONTRIB_ENV
   in site.h puts it in SUBDIRS. 

-- 
   Zdzislaw Meglicki, gustav@arp.anu.edu.au,
   Automated Reasoning Project - CISR, and Plasma Theory Group - RSPhysS,
   The Australian National University, G.P.O. Box 4, Canberra, A.C.T., 2601, 
   Australia, fax: (Australia)-6-249-0747, tel: (Australia)-6-249-0158
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\template{default}
\define{global

attr:[FontSize ConstantFontSize Point 12]}
\define{itemize
menu:[Region~4,Itemize~31]
attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768]}
\define{enumerate
menu:[Region~4,Enumerate~30]
attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768]}
\define{programexample
menu:[Region~4,ProgramExample~13]
attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768]
attr:[Justification LeftJustified Point 0]
attr:[FontFace FixedFace Int Set]
attr:[FontFamily AndyType Int 0]}
\define{excerptedcaption

attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768]
attr:[RightMargin RightMargin Inch 32768]
attr:[FontFace Bold Int Set]
attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]}
\define{literal
menu:[Region~4,Literal~62]
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\define{footnote

attr:[Flags OverBar Int Set]
attr:[FontSize PreviousFontSize Point -2]}
In a moment of bold insanity, I recently decided to have a go at building the 
White Pages part of ATK (v5.0) compiled for sparc, SunOS 4.0, X11r4.


Well, it seems to work quite happily, and the fuzzy name-matching from 
messages is very nice.  However, building the initial white pages database is 
causing me endless hassle.


Using the directions given in 
\typewriter{\smaller{src/overhead/util/lib/WP.ins}}, the build \italic{almost} 
works. The success is, however, sporadic.  I have been cleaning the 
\typewriter{\smaller{wpsrc}} and \typewriter{\smaller{wp}} trees and 
rebuilding the database every now and again in an attempt to get a good 
initial database (i.e. with reasonable gecos fields and affiliations) and 
almost all the time I get errors like:

\smaller{\example{Makeboth run FAILED at Thu Nov 28 14:54:37 GMT 1991 with 
status 3

wpbuild terminating abnormally.

}
}The wperr logfile shows:

\example{\smaller{/vol/andrew/lib/wpsrc$ cat wperrZ9892

Can't append PK ``ca12002r"r'' to index ``j"x'': B-tree: No such file or 
directory

}}
I am taking the data from a normal passwd file and not using and affiliation 
maps or other gunk like that.


Can someone give me a clue as to what might be going wrong or how to get a 
real database out of this system?


Nick.

\bold{Nick Williams, Computing Science Dept, City University, London.}


\italic{\smaller{``In case of sudden loss of cabin pressure, oxygen masks will 
fall

from the overhead compartments and hit you on the head.  Please place

them over your snout and breathe normally.  If you are travelling with

a child or infant on your lap, quickly decide which of you has the

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The title says it all, but the question is:

Somewhere in the compile I get the following --

rm -f messageserver
cc  -g -I. -I/more_software/Andrew/include/ams -I/more_software/Andrew/include -
I/more_software/Andrew/include/atk  -I/include -I/usr/local/X11/include -o mes
sageserver  errmsgs.o ms.o  /more_software/Andrew/lib/libmssrv.a /more_software
/Andrew/lib/libmsshr.a  /more_software/Andrew/lib/libeli.a /more_software/Andre
w/lib/librxp.a  /more_software/Andrew/lib/libsnap.a /more_software/Andrew/lib/l
ibmail.a  /more_software/Andrew/lib/liberrors.a /more_software/Andrew/lib/libut
il.a /more_software/Andrew/lib/libafs.a /more_software/Andrew/lib/libplumber.a
  /more_software/Andrew/lib/libgasp.a        -ldl
ld: Undefined symbol
	_dn_expand
	_res_search
	_res_init
	__res
	_dn_skipname
*** Error code 2

The question is which macro/definition did I forget so that these
symbols are defined. Looking at libmail.a (where I think they should be
defined), does indeed tell me that they are Undefined.

Where did I go wrong????


site.mcr and site.h files available on request.

BTW this is running on a SOlbourne series 600 ruinning X11R4 and OS/MP
4.1A1. Thanks in advance.

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Look out world, wdc is building Andrew on a new platform...

I'm building ATK 5.0 on a SPARC IPC.
I thought I'd try it completely vanilla:  ATK from the X tape, and
the SPARC running Open Windows, not X.

It seems that the build goes out of its way to do the wrong thing with
the dynamically loaded libX11.a, in a vanilla Open windows world.

Am I correct in thinking that every reference to ${XLIBDIR}/libX11.a should
change to -L${XLIBDIR} -lX11  ?

Shouldn't everything decide whether or not to do this based on the LIBDL_ENV
variable?

Gary:  Your suggestion to specify XLIBDIR as /usr/X.11R5 (or some such)
seems incorrect.  I don't think the X tape installs anything there.
Although I do remember something like it as a CMU specific place to
install X.

Is there some reason why libX11.a is not linked conditionally on LIBDL_ENV
on the Sun?

(I rememvber having to hash through similar confusion on the RS/6000 and I
thought a lot of the complexity I added was to prevent the Sun from doing
the wrong thing with Dynamic loading of LibX11.a)

-wdc


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Today I have finally installed the full Andrew on my systems including
the "contrib" bits (but without AMDS and White Pages) and started playing
with ditps, gtroff and ditroff - it looks like I've been too optimistic
as to the possibility of using gtroff -Tpsc and combining it with ditps.
It works fine when printing for instance man pages (e.g., gtroff -man -Tpsc
ls.1v | lpr -n), but when it comes to more complex things, for instance,
to combining ezprint, gtroff, and ditps, it didn't work at all. However,
as I've been told already, ezprint, gtroff, and grops work just fine.
In my preferences, I've put (as advised by George Michaelson):

*.formatcommand: geqn -Tps /tmp/%s.n | gtbl | gtroff -Tps -mps -mpsatk |
*.printcommand: grops | lpr -Plsr

and ended up having great looking prints of some demo messages - including
the bitmaps, drawings, etc. I wonder if it would still work without
"-mpsatk". 
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Subject: Sun OS 4.1.1B libX11.so.4.3 won't link for xws.do
Cc: 

I get this:

cc -c  -g -I. -I../common -I/usr/andrew/include -I/usr/andrew/include/atk  -I/include -I/usr/openwin/include   menubar.c
/usr/andrew/bin/makedo -g -d /usr/andrew/lib -b /usr/andrew/bin -s -o xws.do  xws.o xim.o xcursor.o xfontd.o xgraphic.o menubar.o ../common/region.o ../common/rect.o ../common/point.o ../common/physical.o  /usr/andrew/lib/libcmenu.a  /usr/andrew/lib/liberrors.a  /usr/andrew/lib/libutil.a /usr/andrew/lib/libafs.a -L/usr/openwin/lib -lX11
/usr/andrew/bin/doindex xws.do
doindex: indexing xws.do ...ld.so: Undefined symbol: _XIfEvent
*** Error code 127
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `xws.do'

----
I also tried substituting /usr/openwin/lib/libX11.so.4.3 for the -L/usr/openwin/lib -lX11 but got the same failure.

I ran nm over libX11.so.4.3 and it SAYS that XIfEvent is defined.  So I am
without clue.

Does anybody have a guess?
Do I have to roll in 100 meg of server source and build my own R5 X for the sun?

-wdc


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>Am I correct in thinking that every reference to ${XLIBDIR}/libX11.a should
>change to -L${XLIBDIR} -lX11  ?

*I* sure think you are!  The Imakefile for "atk/apps" I'm using here
sure as heck links with the shared "-lX11" library.

>Shouldn't everything decide whether or not to do this based on the LIBDL_ENV
>variable?

Not necessarily - it could even be a win to do so with the old dynamic
linking code under SunOS, or on other systems with shared libraries that
don't have "-ldl", or....  I'd changed the Imakefile a fair while before
I did the "-ldl" version of "doload()".
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