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Hi! 
Do anyone know how to print out a raster file through ezprint? For those
text files, I use ezprint -t to convert them into troff files and use
ptroff to print them out through a PostScript printer; it is a NeXT
printer here. 
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Can we run AMS without AMDS? 
Now I try to use standard BSD mail instead of AMDS. We can send mail
through the sendmessages but we can't read new mails from the messages
or cui. I tried to change something in the AndrewSetup file or
preferences files, such as MailboxDir and MailboxFile, but all in vain.
Could anyone tell me how to fix it? 
In fact, I 've tried to install AMDS and WP but resulted errors. It is
about lack of some include files, such as bt.h or something ( I can't
really remember). The point is, is it possible to install AMDS and WP
without AFS?                                                 Wai-kong,
Sung                                                 CCL/ITRI
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It should work just fine if configured properly; actually, most people
who run AMS do NOT use AMDS.  
Try just running cui and typing the command "update" to read your new
mail.  If it doesn't work, please tell me exactly what it prints out as
an error message.  If it says something about "set hold in .mailrc" then
you need to create a .mailrc file in your home directory and put the
following line in it: 
unset hold 
There's a long story behind this, but if it is your problem,  basically
it is necessary because of the way your site has configured Berkeley
mail. 
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Very curious.  Is the total number of files the same?  That is, are the
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This is a very unfamiliar bug.  I'll keep thinking about it. 
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I have 
AMS_NoDomainPreferredOnLocalMail: 1 AMS_UUCPSupported: 1 
In my AndrewSetup file.  Using this, "foo!bar" validates directly, and
"nsb" validates as "Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb>" rather than "Nathaniel
Borenstein <nsb@thumper.bellcore.com".  You should test a case like the
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Subject: Can't print embbed raster To:
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>Ez printing is set up for use with the adobe psdit package, which
allows >the embedded postscript generated by raster or zip to be passed
through >within the troff, a similar trick is probably possible with
ptroff, but >I am not familiar with the package. For dealing with
straight raster >files (those not embedded in text), you could use the
convertraster >program to translate them directly  into postscript.
Also, for text >files, you can change the printcommand with the a
*.printcommand >preference that will allow you to specify how you need
to print them, >i.e. >*.printcommand: ptroff ; rm -f /tmp/%s.n; rm -f
/tmp/%s.n.dvi  By directly writing to a PostScript file, raster file can
be printed out from a PostScript Printer. It can't work for embbed
raster inset. Because it has no ptroff in my SUN, I transfer the troff
files which generated by ezprint to a NeXT, and use ptroff to convert
those troff files to PostScript there. The embbed Postscript seems to be
truncated by ptroff.  Is it ptroff need some special macro for those
troff embedd with image?                                                
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Subject: Scanner To: info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@twnitri1.bitnet
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Now the ezscan only supports the IBM 3117 scanners but here we have only
MicroTek MSF-300C and  Color/Gray scanners. If we modified the ezscan
code to support these scanners, how much effort is needed?              
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Subject: Problem about Mail Address To:
nsb%thumper.bellcore.com@twnitri1.bitnet,        
info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@twnitri1.bitnet Message-Id:
<901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> X-St-Vmsmail-To:
ST%"nsb@thumper.bellcore.com", ST%"info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu" 
  >Try just running cui and typing the command "update" to read your new
>mail.  If it doesn't work, please tell me exactly what it prints out as
>an error message.  If it says something about "set hold in .mailrc"
then >you need to create a .mailrc file in your home directory and put
the >following line in it: > >unset hold Yes, this is my problem; the
error message is about "set hold in Mailrc or .mailrc". After I added
"unset hold" in my .mailrc, it can work now. Thanks!  Now I met another
problem about address when send mail through messages or cui. When I
typed the address like this, user@host, it works with no problem.
However, when I send to local user or reply to the sender, the mail
would be returned back with error. A such kind of returned mail is
enclosed. What kind of problem of this?                                 
                        Wai-kong, Sung 
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1990 11:14:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id:
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11:14:16 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re:
Problem about Mail Address In-Reply-To:
<901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> References:
<901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> 
Looks to me like you're running your domain system in the same screwy
way they run it at Bellcore -- i.e. your NFS domains, as returned by
getdomainname(), have nothing to do with your mail domain.  I suggest
that you read about the "ThisDomain" variable in the AndrewSetup file,
and set it to something reasonable. Return-path:
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(EST) Date: Fri,  2 Nov 1990 10:55:00 -0500 (EST) From:
nsb%thumper.bellcore.com%twnitri1.bitnet@BITNET.CC.CMU.EDU Subject: Re:
Problem about Mail Address In-Reply-To:
<901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> To:
nsb%thumper.bellcore.com@twnitri1.bitnet,        
info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@twnitri1.bitnet,        
kw20swk0%TWNITRI1.BITNET%CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU%thumper.bellcore.com@twnitri1.bi
tnet  (Wai-kong, Sung) Message-Id:
<sbANPIG0M2YtJ7aeEN@thumper.bellcore.com> References:
<901102233956.51a6@ersob.itri.org.tw> 
Looks to me like you're running your domain system in the same screwy
way they run it at Bellcore -- i.e. your NFS domains, as returned by
getdomainname(), have nothing to do with your mail domain.  I suggest
that you read about the "ThisDomain" variable in the AndrewSetup file,
and set it to something reasonable. Return-path:
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14:37:40 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Schell <bill@allegra.tempo.nj.att.com>
To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: what machines and OS's  does
andrew run on? 
Does a list of all the machine types and operating systems that andrew
has been ported to exist in the documentation (or elsewhere)?  I'd be
very interested in looking at one. People keep asking me questions like:
 "Oh, you're using ATK?  Will that run on a {fill in the blank}
machine?" 
Thanks, 	Bill Schell 	AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ
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Do you know if mach is publicly available? 
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 90 12:49:29 PST From: Rudolf Nottrott
<rnott@lternet.washington.edu> Message-Id:
<9011052049.AA10700@lternet.lternet.washington.edu> To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Compilation Warnings 

     A compilation of Andrew on a VaxStation running Ultrix 3.0, patch
level 7 from Emsworth, mostly default configuration, went without any
error messages; However, I did got the following warning messages: 
 WARNING:bufferlist.ch: - long class names should use name keys
"framecmd.c", line 87: warning: illegal pointer combination
"framecmd.c", line 88: warning: illegal pointer combination
"compchar.c", line 382: warning: illegal pointer combination
"compchar.c", line 385: warning: illegal pointer combination "zipobj.c",
line 181: warning: enumeration type clash, operator RETURN "zipocapt.c",
line 134: warning: enumeration type clash, operator = "zipofcap.c", line
168: warning: enumeration type clash, operator = "eval.c", line 142:
warning: illegal pointer combination 
     Also, the message '*.ch: No such file or directory' (without any
further comment) appeared numerous times, and so did '*.c: No such file
or directory'  (the latter was less frequent.  
     In a first attempt, 'vui' and messages' seem to be running o.k.  
     WHAT DO I DO about these warnings? 
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Date: Mon,  5 Nov 1990 18:27:59 -0500 (EST) From: Adam Stoller
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<9011060005.AA11027@lternet.lternet.washington.edu> To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: VUI & Terminal Emulation 
When accessing VUI over a dial-up connection, so far I have only been
able to use a VT52 emulator (Procomm in VT52 setup).  Other emulators,
such as H19 or VT100 would not work correctly.  
There must be a way to set up VUI such that it can talk to a VT100, or
some of the other common terminals.  Can somebody tell me how to go
about this? + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
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Rudolf Nottrott <rnott@lternet.washington.edu> writes: > When accessing
VUI over a dial-up connection, so far I have only been > able to use a
VT52 emulator (Procomm in VT52 setup).  Other emulators, > such as H19
or VT100 would not work correctly.  
	The last  PD version of  Procomm had a  horribly  broken VT100
emulation  mode built into  it, and I'd bet  that is what your problem
is. The last time I had to use  a PC for  remote access  I  used Telix
3.12 without any emulation problems. You should be able to find a copy
on wsmr-simtel20.army.mil or grape.clarkson.edu (it's  a step up  from
Procomm in other regards as well). 

					dan 					not ITC 					but I've had to deal with 						Andrew for
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Hi 
	I know that there is something called andrew and from CMU, but what
exactly is that and where can I get it from? (any ftp site name #?) 

Please send me mail.  I don't have usenet(internet) access !! 
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16:09:38 -0100 From: Christoph Mai <mai@qt.IPA.FhG.de> To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: porting atk to VMS ? Cc: Juergen
Henke <henke@qt.IPA.FhG.de> 
We are thinking 'bout a port of ATK to VMS. 
Is this very crazy ? Anybody out there already thought about this ?
Please, VMS gurus, how could we realize dynamic loading in VMS ? Is it
possible at all ?  How to change symbol tables in a VMS object file
(makedo) ? 
Please comment (FLAMES etc.) via e-mail, i'll summarize. 
Thanks in advance, 
Christoph. ____________________________________________________________
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Cc: henke@qt.ipa.fhg.de 
The dynamic loading is probably not the hard part of porting to VMS. VMS
actually has a callable dynamic loader, in the form of the
'lib_$find_symbol' library call. This call takes an object file name and
a symbol name. It loads the object file and returns a pointer to the
given symbol (if present).  For an example of layer ATK on top of an
existing dynamic loader look at the Apollo specific code, which uses the
existing Apollo/Domain-OS dynamic loader. 
My guess as to what will be hardest to do is asynchronous I/O handling
(read select). Since, last time I looked, VMS didn't provide a select as
part of their C Library, you'll have to dummy up your own (using event
flags I guess). The other problems that you encounter will probably have
to do with terminal IO (setting PTY characteristics), and differences in
signal handling. 
I don't think its an entirely crazy idea. Did'nt someone at IBM do a
trial port to OS/2 ? So in theory it is possible to port away from Unix. 
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To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Wed, 7 Nov 90 14:53:03 PST
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I think there is a unix-type compatibility library for VMS.  I know that
CUI was ported to VMS and part of that involved using this library for
socket and select emulation.  You might want to contact the Computer
Center at CMU or your local DECUS chapter. 
--marc 
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Printing *.help files 

It used to be possible to print andrew/help/*.help files on a VT100
teminal with 
'ezprint -t filename | nroff". 
This does not seem possible any longer (ezprint no longer there?). Is
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There are two options for Unix compatibility: 
1. VAX-C 3.0 plus the DECShell and VMS connection (UCX...something or
other), which in it's most recent form supports select(2) and other
Unixisms. 
2. VAX-C or GCC with Peter Kay's sockit library which runs over Wally
TCP/IP, CMU-TEK TCP/IP, and maybe another (not, currently, Multinet). 
I dunno about the former, but the latter implements only enough of the
functionality of sockets to support the implementation of basic TCP/IP
services. The full functionality of the socket library is a bit more
difficult in VMS, because of VMSs way of handling asynchronous IO, so
that any socket emulation is going to be targeted at specific
applications. The better approach would be to use QIOs, but that means
changing a good deal of code. 
Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see someone do it. But we decided that
it would make more sense to wait for all of our applications to migrate
to UNIX, and then trash VMS, then try to "fix" VMS. 
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 >The dynamic loading is probably not the hard part of porting  >to VMS.
VMS actually has a callable dynamic loader, in the form  >of the
'lib_$find_symbol' library call. This call takes an object file  >name
and a symbol name. It loads the object file and returns a pointer  >to
the given symbol (if present).  For an example of layer ATK on top  >of
an existing dynamic loader look at the Apollo specific code, which 
>uses the existing Apollo/Domain-OS dynamic loader. 
Or the IBM RISC System/6000 dynamic loader, which uses the existing AIX
3.1 dynamic loader. 
Bear in mind, though, that both those schemes depend on the ability to
mark a particular symbol in the dynamically loaded file as
"distinguished" by making it the "entry point symbol"; I don't know if
the VMS dynamic loader has this facility, but the SunOS 4.1/System V
Release 4 dynamic loader does *not*, as far as I know, so you may have
to look up that symbol explicitly.  The way that seemed to work in my
cobbled-up prototype for SunOS 4.1/S5R4 is to do: 
	/* 	 * Construct name of GetClassInfo symbol from the package name 	 *
by stripping off the suffix and appending "__GetClassInfo". 	 * You
can't get the entry point value from a shareable object 	 * from the
"dl*()" routines, which is why we have to do this 	 * stuff. 	 * We
strip off the suffix because "doindex", curse its soul, 	 * hands us the
last component of the name of the *file* as 	 * the package name, suffix
and all. 	 */ 	(void) strcpy(epname, name); 	p = strrchr(epname, '.');
	if (p == NULL) 		p = epname + strlen(epname); 	(void) strcpy(p,
"__GetClassInfo"); 
to construct the name of the symbol in question.  "name" is the second
argument to "doload".  The "path" (fifth) argument is the actual
pathname of the file to be loaded. 
Note also that you will have to ensure that some symbols in the "class"
loader code are accessible to the dynamic loader, as the
dynamically-loaded object may refer to them (e.g.,
"class_RoutineStruct").  This appears to require varying amounts of
hackery on Domain/OS and AIX 3.1, and also requires hackery in SunOS
4.1/S5R4: 
	in Domain/OS, "doload()" explicilty calls the loader to add them 	to
the Known Global Table; 
	in AIX 3.1, the "class" loader ".o" files are linked together 	into a
single ".o" file and the linker is explicitly told to 	export them; 
	in SunOS 4.1 and (probably) S5R4, the best or maybe even only 	way to
do so is to make "libclass.a" into a *shared* library. 
(No, the prototype doesn't really "work" - I hand-built pieces of it
instead of changing the Imakefiles, and I've only tested it with the
stuff in the "overhead/class/testing" directory, not with ATK itself.
I've no idea when I'll do anything further on it, and there are some
unresolved issues waiting some responses to mail I sent out....)
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.MS.DirectPost To: info-andrew%andrew.cmu.edu@vma.cc.cmu.edu
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I am trying to build a private bboard and following the instructions in
the document privbb.help. I created a file .MS.DirectPost in the
directory ~/.MESSAGES_PUBLIC liked that 
        0         sung+andrew@w2sun2 
According to the document, now others can send messages to
"sung+andrew@w2sun2", but when I tried it; cui can't reconize this
address. We are using BSD mail instead of AMDS here. Does .MS.DirectPost
only work in AMDS? 
                                                Wai-kong, Sung          
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08:55:43 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re:
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References: <Added.AbCYrqy00Ui30c0E8s@andrew.cmu.edu> 
The problem isn't .MS.DirectPost, it's what you put in it.  What goes
there has to be a valid address.  sung+andrew is simply not a valid
address in a normal BSD delivery environment.  (With AMDS, a valid
userid can be followed by a plus sign and ANY string, but this is not
true with BSD mail delivery.) 
To obtain the same kind of functionality with BSD/sendmail delivery, you
can hide the informaton in the RFC822 route phrase, using an address of
the following form: 
sung+andrew <sung> 
or, if you prefer 
sung+andrew <sung@w2sun2> 
Either of these should work fine, at least if you've upgraded to Andrew
patch level 6 or higher.  
Let me know if that isn't clear.  -- Nathaniel
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Subject: Help on printing ATK docs 
I have some difficulties getting printing to work with multi-media docs.
As I understand, ATK is set up to use ditroff and psdit to do the
formatting. The problem is that we don't have new ditroff. We do have
GNU groff, which should be 'highly compatible' with ditroff according to
the GNU docs. Is there anyone who has tried to combine groff and psdit,
or has a clue how to make grops (the GNU troff to PS processor) manage
included PostScript. Groff+grops works nicely on ordinary text, but with
included rasters or anything else that produces embedded PostScript, it
won't work. Any suggestions on other combinations ? 
Thanks for your help !
------------------------------------------------------------- Olof
Damberg                       | email: oldam@math.liu.se Dept of Math,
Linkoping University | phone: +46 13 281473 S-581 83  Linkoping, SWEDEN 
      | fax:   +46 13 100746 
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have questions) Date: 12 Nov 90 00:58:55 GMT From:
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Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA Subject: HP9000/300: whereis
makedepend? Message-Id: <8450001@hpfcso.HP.COM> Sender:
info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
I'm tring to make Andrew on a HP9000/370 running HP-UX 7.0. I've run
into a couple of problems. The second one has me stopped. I'd appreciate
any assistance you can give me. 
First problem: imake generates unusable Makefiles. The problem seems to
be   that my /lib/cpp (Rev 64.32) inserts line-number information by
default.   The -P flag diables that behavior, so I set IMAKEINCLUDE='-I.
-P' and   that made this problem go away. (I couldn't just set
IMAKEINCLUDE=-P   because imake wanted it to start with "-I") 
Second problem: executable not found: /usr/local/bin/makedepend.  I know
  about mkmf (/usr/bin/mkmf comes with HP-UX) but I can't seem to find  
/usr/local/bin/makedepend.  Is it another X11 tool like imake?  Where  
can I find it (source or exec for HP 300_70)? 
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info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: makedo bad install on SunOS 4.0.3c 

I don't know if this has already been reported or not, but it seems like
this is annoying enough to mention again. 
When makedo gets installed in /usr/andrew/bin, install creates a
subdirectory called makedo and then makedo.csh is copied into the
subdirectory.  Consequently, when makedo is executed, the make exits
with 'Permission denined' which is appropriate when a directory is
executed.  
The install command in ./overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc is: 
install -c -m 0555 makedo.csh /usr/andrew/bin/makedo 
To get around this, you just have to make sure that
/usr/andrew/bin/makedo exists as a file, not a directory before the
'install' command is executed. 
This is on a Sun4/110 running SunOS4.0.3c 

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17:14:09 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Cattey <wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> To:
info-andrew-bugs+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Patch to enable Duplex
preference as documented. 
The preferences help page says there is a preference "Duplex" to enable
processing for duplex printers. 
There was no support in txttroff.c for this preference.  Instead duplex
print processing was enabled by default. 
At mit we needed to have Simplex printing to be the default and an easy
way to switch between them that did not involve users resorting to
troff. 
The following patch to txttroff.c enables it to conform to the
documented printing procedure:  If the Duplex preference is true, the
initial troff output sets the number register DP to be 0 (which enables
recto/verso headers and footers).  If the Duplex preference is false, DP
is 1 which sets up simplex printing. 
Additionally, the following has been done which goes beyond the spec: 
1. Following the convention of controlling if the table of Contents is
printed, there is a #define DUPLEXBYDEFAULT FALSE which is the
hard-coded fallback if now preference is set. 
2. Continuing with the convention, an enviornment variable Duplex is
checked, and if it exists and does not have a value beginning with 'N'
or 'n' it will override the Duplex preference. 
3. I broke the comment on the #define CONTENTSBYDEFAULT with a newline
instead of many tabs. 
Share and enjoy, Next we get a 7 foot sofa to turn a 6 foot corner. 
-wdc 
Here is the patch: 
*** /tmp/,RCSt1012542	Mon Nov 12 16:42:08 1990 --- txttroff.c	Mon Nov 12
16:40:02 1990 *************** *** 88,94 ****     #define ENDNOTESONLY
FALSE /* Administrators should define as TRUE if local troff can't
support footnotes */   #define	CONTENTSBYDEFAULT FALSE	/* define the
default behavior regarding the printing of tables !                     
                                        of contents if the appropriate
styles are present */   #define ENUMERATE   #define INDENTSPACE 6  
#ifdef ENUMERATE --- 88,96 ----     #define ENDNOTESONLY FALSE /*
Administrators should define as TRUE if local troff can't support
footnotes */   #define	CONTENTSBYDEFAULT FALSE	/* define the default
behavior regarding the printing of tables !   of  contents if the
appropriate styles are present */ ! #define	DUPLEXBYDEFAULT	FALSE	/*
default behavior: simplex printing or duplex printing */ !   #define
ENUMERATE   #define INDENTSPACE 6   #ifdef ENUMERATE *************** ***
127,132 **** --- 129,135 ----     static struct text_statevector sv,
nsv;     /* Current and new state vectors */   static boolean
printContents; /* Flag to indicate if we are printing a table of
contents */ + static boolean printDuplex; /* Flag to indicate if we
process for duplex printing. */   static struct {       char *fontname; 
     char *fontcodes[9]; *************** *** 544,551 ****           if
