Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 10:38:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 10:38:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 2 Mar 92 10:37:52 EST Received: by lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de (5.61+/IDA-1.2.8/gandalf.2) id AA04803; Mon, 2 Mar 92 13:18:56 +0100 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.lazy.qt.IPA.FhG.de.pmax_ul4; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 13:18:55 +0100 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 13:18:55 +0100 (MET DST) From: Juergen Henke X-Andrew-Message-Size: 482+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Nathaniel Borenstein Subject: Re: Messages dosen't work Cc: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: <9202290105.AA11743@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 10:57:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 10:56:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 2 Mar 92 10:56:42 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 92 10:56:40 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu; Mon, 2 Mar 92 10:56:39 EST Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.galaxy.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.greenbush.galaxy.sun4_41; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 10:56:31 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4dgZ0jG0M2YtAJjxIk@thumper.bellcore.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 10:56:31 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein X-Andrew-Message-Size: 7210+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Juergen Henke Subject: Re: Messages dosen't work Cc: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: <9202290105.AA11743@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 13;andrew.cmu.edu;Fred Hansen Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 13:39:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 13:37:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs. aix31 via MS.5.6.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 13:37:01 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 13:37:01 -0500 (EST) From: Fred Hansen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 524+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Lee Boswell Subject: Re: replying to mail In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 15:44:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 15:41:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 2 Mar 92 15:41:26 EST Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11753>; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 12:41:16 PST Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <33025>; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 12:41:07 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Mon, 2 Mar 1992 12:41:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <4dgd=UsB0KGWMYu1gC@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 1992 12:41:04 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, prism!gt0963d@gatech.edu (Deeptendu Majumder) Subject: Re: Mono monitor In-Reply-To: <48936@hydra.gatech.EDU> References: <9202151819.AA24745@cad.gatech.edu> <48936@hydra.gatech.EDU> My advice would be to apply the patch to xgraphic that I posted last week, and remove all preferences having to do with scrollbars from your preferences file, then add "*.MimicOldScrollbar: true". The scrollbars on the monochrome screen should then look just like they used to look. Bill Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 08:11:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 08:09:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from chx400.switch.ch by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Tue, 3 Mar 92 08:08:29 EST X400-Received: by mta chx400.switch.ch in /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=CH/; Relayed; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 14:07:42 +0100 X400-Received: by /PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/; Relayed; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 14:05:32 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 14:05:32 +0100 X400-Originator: wilde@komsys.tik.ethz.ch X400-Mts-Identifier: [/PRMD=switch/ADMD=arcom/C=ch/;920303140532] X400-Content-Type: P2-1984 (2) Content-Identifier: 111 From: Erik Wilde Message-Id: <111*/S=wilde/OU=komsys/OU=tik/O=ethz/PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/@MHS> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: ATK Questions I've three questions concerning the ATK. We have only installed the ATK because we only want to use this component of the Andrew System. Our Installation is based on the /contrib of the X11R4 distribution and the ATK reports an `ATK 15.5` on every startup. 1) Within discussions on this list 'Version 5.0.0' has been mentioned a few times. Where can I get this new Version of Andrew (or only the ATK) and does it incorporate Motif support? We don't have the X11R5 distribution and I think we will use R4 for some more months. 2) The ATK Menu mechanisms are a subset of the Motif capabilities. We have an application which is designed to offer cascading menus, i.e. pulldown menus generated by selecting menu items. Andrew's popup menus do not offer such sub-menus. Is there any way to use cascading menus, maybe using the Motif-based Andrew? Otherwise we have to redesign our user interface, what we really don't like to do. 3) I tried using ATK applications with MacX and it worked fine, but I found no way to get the fonts right. The Andrew fonts come in fdb and snf formats, MacX wants them to be in bdf format. Is there a way to convert the Andrew fonts to bdf format? I appreciate any answer to these questions, especially number one and two. Thanks in advance, Erik Wilde Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH Zuerich) Institut fuer Technische Informatik und Kommunikationssysteme (TIK) ETH-Zentrum, Haldeneggsteig 4, IFW C27.1, CH - 8092 Zuerich Phone: +41-1-254-7009 Fax: +41-1-262-3973 Mail: wilde@komsys.tik.ethz.ch Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 11:55:26 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 11:51:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 11:51:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 11:51:36 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1950+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: ATK Questions In-Reply-To: <111*/S=wilde/OU=komsys/OU=tik/O=ethz/PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/@MHS> References: <111*/S=wilde/OU=komsys/OU=tik/O=ethz/PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/@MHS> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from orac.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 12:11:06 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from orac.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 12:09:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.orac.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.orac.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 12:09:49 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8dgv=RW00asVNGb0gE@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 12:09:49 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Andrew Ryan MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: Info-Andrew , wilde@komsys.tik.ethz.ch Subject: Re: ATK Questions CC: Susan Straub In-Reply-To: <111*/S=wilde/OU=komsys/OU=tik/O=ethz/PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/@MHS> References: <111*/S=wilde/OU=komsys/OU=tik/O=ethz/PRMD=SWITCH/ADMD=ARCOM/C=CH/@MHS> Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 3-Mar-92 ATK Questions Erik Wilde@komsys.tik.et (1573) > 2) The ATK Menu mechanisms are a subset of the Motif capabilities. We > have an application which is designed to offer cascading menus, i.e. > pulldown menus generated by selecting menu items. Andrew's popup menus > do not offer such sub-menus. Is there any way to use cascading menus, > maybe using the Motif-based Andrew? Otherwise we have to redesign our > user interface, what we really don't like to do. > 3) I tried using ATK applications with MacX and it worked fine, but I > found no way to get the fonts right. The Andrew fonts come in fdb and > snf formats, MacX wants them to be in bdf format. Is there a way to > convert the Andrew fonts to bdf format? 2) We wrote our own "Motifish" menubar, and in the latest release (ATK 5.0.0) we added scrollbars and dialog boxes which look "Motifish." There are currently no plans to provide cascading menus, or a Motif-based version of ATK. 3) In the latest release there is a configuration option called FONTS_TO_BDF_ENV which will install the fonts as BDF instead of snf or pcf. -Rob Ryan Memember of Technical Staff, Andrew Toolkit Consortium p.s. We will send you more information on getting the latest release. Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 15:21:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 15:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Tue, 3 Mar 92 15:17:17 EST Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11687>; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 12:16:54 PST Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <33025>; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 12:16:49 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 12:16:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 12:16:33 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen To: Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone Cc: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: I'm surprised you had line-wrapping problems. I seem to be able just to select the patch, cut, paste it into an empty EZ buffer, and save the file, without any line-wrapping. I'd thought that formatting it as an ATK text object would avoid the wrapping... Be that as it may, I've put the patches in the file /transient/xgraphic-patch.tar.Z on the anonymous FTP server parcftp.parc.xerox.com (13.1.64.94) for the next couple of weeks, in case anyone wants to get them via FTP. Bill Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 05:33:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 05:21:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Wed, 4 Mar 92 05:21:15 EST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.63/1.43) id AA16986; Wed, 4 Mar 92 02:05:21 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu (info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 3 Mar 92 18:03:45 GMT From: psinntp!unvax.union.edu!boehme@uunet.uu.net (Eric M. Boehm) Organization: Union College, Schenectady, NY Subject: Problems building andrew on DS5000/Ultrix 4.2 Message-Id: <1992Mar3.180345.20215@unvax.union.edu> Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu I have previously built andrew without any trouble. I decided to add some more components, specifically: #define MK_AUTHORING #define MK_AUX_UTILS #define MK_AUX_INSETS It gets most of the way through the build and hangs at: Checking Destination Directories.... Making directory /usr/local/andrew/doc/atk/ness (ANDREWDIR=/usr/local/andrew; export ANDREWDIR; CLASSPATH=/usr/local/andrew/dlib/atk; export CLASSPATH; WMHOST=; /usr/local/andrew/bin/nessrun present.n nessauth.d) Starting nessrun (Version 1.5, ATK 5.0.0); please wait... Compile okay. Elapsed time is 773 msec. present: nessauth.d -> nessauth.doc Execution okay. Elapsed time is 676 msec. (ANDREWDIR=/usr/local/andrew; export ANDREWDIR; CLASSPATH=/usr/local/andrew/dlib/atk; export CLASSPATH; WMHOST=; /usr/local/andrew/bin/nessrun present.n nessfunc.d) Starting nessrun (Version 1.5, ATK 5.0.0); please wait... Compile okay. Elapsed time is 406 msec. present: nessfunc.d -> nessfunc.doc Execution okay. Elapsed time is 867 msec. (ANDREWDIR=/usr/local/andrew; export ANDREWDIR; CLASSPATH=/usr/local/andrew/dlib/atk; export CLASSPATH; WMHOST=; /usr/local/andrew/bin/nessrun present.n nesshack.d) Starting nessrun (Version 1.5, ATK 5.0.0); please wait... Compile okay. Elapsed time is 410 msec. present: nesshack.d -> nesshack.doc Execution okay. Elapsed time is 347 msec. (ANDREWDIR=/usr/local/andrew; export ANDREWDIR; CLASSPATH=/usr/local/andrew/dlib/atk; export CLASSPATH; WMHOST=; /usr/local/andrew/bin/nessrun present.n nessman.d) Starting nessrun (Version 1.5, ATK 5.0.0); please wait... *** Termination code 9 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. It had been running all night long. I started it around 11:30 p.m. and killed it at 8:30 a.m. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. -- Eric M. Boehm boehme@unvax.Union.EDU BOEHME@UNION.BITNET Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:04:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 10:58:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Wed, 4 Mar 92 10:58:16 EST Received: by orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.30jrs) id AA05162; Wed, 4 Mar 92 10:58:09 -0500 From: robb@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike ( Beaker ) ) Message-Id: <9203041558.AA05162@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: Installing andrew at Purdue To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Wed, 4 Mar 92 10:58:08 EST Cc: robb@ecn.purdue.edu (Michael A Robb) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL9] I am trying to install Andrew here at Purdue. (actually just installing a newer version) I have run into a problem, and was wondering if I could get some info to fix this problem. I have used the imakefile to make all of the makefiles. I then tried to use "make dependInstall" to install the new version: however, I ran across some "include" problems. The first error was with the file alquery.c: it needs acl.h. There were seven other files ( dot.h ) that it could not find. They were: prclient.h prerror.h venus.h cellconfig.h print.h prs.fg.h param.h I stoped the compile attempt here, so there may be more that it could not find. I have looked throught the entire system that I am currently on ( a sun os 4.1 ) and could not find prclient.h, so I assume that these are not system include files, but rather that they are andrew specific include files. So I went through the old andrew include directory, and could not find it there either. Did I miss a configuration? Am I missing some files when I got the source. ( got it from mit ftp anon )? -- Thanks for any help -- Mike Robb Please email any help directly to me: -thanks robb@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 13;andrew.cmu.edu;Fred Hansen Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:22:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.a ix31 via MS.5.6.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:19:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0dhDVxO00VtjF7d4Af@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:19:09 -0500 (EST) From: Fred Hansen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1355+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , psinntp!unvax.union.edu!boehme@uunet.uu.net Subject: Re: Problems building andrew on DS5000/Ultrix 4.2 In-Reply-To: <1992Mar3.180345.20215@unvax.union.edu> References: <1992Mar3.180345.20215@unvax.union.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1210;alw.nih.gov;Bob Dew Received: from spot.dcrt.nih.gov via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:51:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from spot.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:50:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from dude.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:48:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from dude.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:48:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dude.dcrt.nih.gov.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.dude.dcrt.nih.gov.sun4_41; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:48:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4dhDxnW0ts4jI1o34h@alw.nih.gov> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:48:51 -0500 (EST) From: Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov X-Andrew-Message-Size: 374+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: ATK on High Res DECstation In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 12:12:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 12:07:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 12:07:58 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 12:07:58 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 475+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Installing andrew at Purdue CC: robb@ecn.purdue.edu (Michael A Robb), itcbb+atk.ia-trail@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: <9203041558.AA05162@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> References: <9203041558.AA05162@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 425;andrew.cmu.edu;Stephan Greene Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:07:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:06:44 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:04:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from fennario.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 92 14:02:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from fennario.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fennario.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4c .411 via MS.5.6.fennario.andrew.cmu.edu.sun4_41; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:01:52 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:01:52 -0500 (EST) From: Stephan Greene X-Andrew-Message-Size: 734+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew , Fred Hansen Subject: Re: Problems building andrew on DS5000/Ultrix 4.2 In-Reply-To: <0dhDVxO00VtjF7d4Af@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <1992Mar3.180345.20215@unvax.union.edu> <0dhDVxO00VtjF7d4Af@andrew.cmu.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 13;andrew.cmu.edu;Fred Hansen Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:16:23 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:15:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.a ix31 via MS.5.6.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:15:42 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:15:42 -0500 (EST) From: Fred Hansen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 717+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew , Stephan Greene Subject: Re: Problems building andrew on DS5000/Ultrix 4.2 In-Reply-To: References: <1992Mar3.180345.20215@unvax.union.edu> <0dhDVxO00VtjF7d4Af@andrew.cmu.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:45:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:44:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew-bugs; Wed, 4 Mar 92 14:43:56 EST Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11826>; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:43:33 PST Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <33025>; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:43:16 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:43:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 11:43:09 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen To: Bill Janssen , Scott Minneman Subject: Messages bugs Cc: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu, burwell.PARC@xerox.com In-Reply-To: References: Excerpts from direct: 4-Mar-92 Re: more on Andrew R5 Scott Minneman@parc.xero (810+0) > Bill- > The R5 Messages program only allows one message composition window to be > open at a time and blows away the parent mail reader when you select > quit from a child sender. Sigh. These are nasty problems that I > thought had been fixed in the actual release; if not, what are the odds > that we can reapply these fixes? > Due to my deeply ingrained (and possibly brain-damaged) ways of working, > I've already created enough trouble for myself with this new version > that I'd happily retreat to a program that behaves the way I expect. > Have you seen any reports of problems in going back down to the old > version? > Argh. I've been trying to fix as many of these problems as I can by > removing items from menus and setting preferences, but there are some > difficulties for which this technique fails miserably. > -slm Scott, The last time I made those local patches, it caused quite a bit of grief when patches to messages (often quite extensive) came out. In conversations with the Andrew folk, it seems that they do not quite regard either of those two pieces of behavior as bugs (though I agree completely with you). Of course, you can workaround the first problem by using "sendmessage" from a typescript or background menu, and the second by always using "Delete Window" rather than "Quit" (a particularly brain-damaged workaround, I always thought). I'm CC'ing this message to the Andrew list. Perhaps someone else has an idea. I think the party line around here at the moment is that you should look into switching from messages to a commercially supported multi-format mail reader, such as Poste or ZMail. Perhaps our Infrastructure Coordinator could provide a pointer? Bill Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:58:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for susan+; Wed, 4 Mar 92 14:58:07 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 92 14:58:03 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for susan+@andrew.cmu.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 92 14:58:01 EST Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.galaxy.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.greenbush.galaxy.sun4_41; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:57:56 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:57:56 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein X-Andrew-Message-Size: 721+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: Gary Keim Subject: Re: MIME-stuff Cc: "Michael J. McInerny" , susan+@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: <0dhDjWC00hYx0ClG04@andrew.cmu.edu> <4dhFxuK00VsyJjMmAl@andrew.cmu.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:59:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for susan+; Wed, 4 Mar 92 14:59:06 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 92 14:58:56 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for susan+@andrew.cmu.edu; Wed, 4 Mar 92 14:58:54 EST Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.galaxy.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.greenbush.galaxy.sun4_41; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:58:50 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 14:58:50 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein X-Andrew-Message-Size: 332+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: alter To: Gary Keim Subject: PS -- Re: MIME-stuff Cc: "Michael J. McInerny" , susan+@andrew.cmu.edu In-Reply-To: References: <0dhDjWC00hYx0ClG04@andrew.cmu.edu> <4dhFxuK00VsyJjMmAl@andrew.cmu.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 16:31:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 16:27:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 16:27:13 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 16:27:13 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1831+1 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Bill Janssen , Scott Minneman Subject: Re: Messages bugs CC: Info-Andrew , Info-Andrew-Bugs , burwell.PARC@xerox.com In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 17:55:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 17:49:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Wed, 4 Mar 92 17:48:45 EST Received: from cs.city.ac.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk via JANET with NIFTP id <18552-1@sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 19:07:55 +0000 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.barney.cs.city.ac.uk.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.barney.cs.city.ac.uk.sun4_40; Tue, 3 Mar 1992 11:33:25 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Mar 1992 11:33:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Williams To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, Bill Janssen Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: References: I hate to say it, but something went seriously wrong when I applied this patch. The monochrome handling of colour was definitely fixed; strange shadings appeared where none had gone before. However, with the new version, the fonts go wrong. On an NCD 100dpi (at least, fontwise) monochrome X-Terminal (X11r4), everything works fine until the patches are applied. After that, some characters are displayed incorrectly. Characters such as 'W' and the tick mark in messages are displayed one character too far too the right, and other characters are then overwritten on top of them. [ATK is running off a Solbourne running SunOS4.0 equivalent] This does not happen on and NCD 75dpi color screen. I have no idea why changing the color code should cause this effect, but it certainly seems to be causing some weirdness. Nick. System Architecture Research Centre, Computing Science Dept, City University, Northampton Square, London EC1V 0HB. Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 18:17:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 18:16:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 18:16:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 18:16:27 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 512+1 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Bill Janssen , Nick Williams Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 18:40:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 18:39:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew-bugs+; Wed, 4 Mar 92 18:39:25 EST Received: from malaria.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.108.4]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11901>; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 15:38:55 PST Received: by malaria.parc.xerox.com id <38019>; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 15:38:43 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.malaria.parc.xerox.com.sun4.4 1 via MS.5.6.malaria.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 15:38:32 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 15:38:32 PST Sender: Scott Minneman From: Scott Minneman To: Gary Keim Subject: Re: Messages bugs Cc: Bill Janssen , Info-Andrew , Info-Andrew-Bugs , burwell.PARC@xerox.com In-Reply-To: References: Gary- I appreciate your speedy reply, but it's kind of a joke, right? Your suggestion, that I remove all of the menu options that launch sendmessage processes completely disables doing replies to existing messages, yes? That couldn't be further from what I want. The problem here is not that I, or the other Andrew users at this site, carelessly leave sendmessage windows lying about, it's that we'd like to be able to be composing replies to several messages at the same time. For example, say that I get a message that merit a reply that may take me several hours to compose; as I'm doing that, another message arrives that I can (and need to) whip off a one-sentence reply to. The current makeup of the system precludes this (unless I want to sacrifice the benefits of message addressing, automatic subject lines and the like). I don't know why the fix that was applied here at PARC (and I believe Bill submitted it to the Andrew maintainers), where multiple reply windows may be open simultaneously, is thought to be anything less that the obvious way that this aspect of the mail system should be implemented. There may be some underlying model of how people use mailers operating here, but it's not a model that reflects what the people I know actually do. Anyway, I just thought I'd throw in a bit of additional explanation here and point out that this work-around is hardly a solution. Thanks again for taking the time to reply to out earlier message. Scott Minneman Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 20:03:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 20:02:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Wed, 4 Mar 1992 20:02:09 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0dhLAFG00Vs9R7C2dg@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 1992 20:02:09 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1803+1 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Scott Minneman Subject: Re: Messages bugs CC: Bill Janssen , Info-Andrew In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:44:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:43:22 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:40:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Thu, 5 Mar 92 09:40:41 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 92 09:40:39 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 92 09:40:38 EST Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.galaxy.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.greenbush.galaxy.sun4_41; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:40:33 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4dhX=Vq0M2Yt01C4x_@thumper.bellcore.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:40:33 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: Scott Minneman Subject: Re: Messages bugs Cc: Bill Janssen , Info-Andrew In-Reply-To: <0dhLAFG00Vs9R7C2dg@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <0dhLAFG00Vs9R7C2dg@andrew.cmu.edu> Actually, athough I agree that there's lots of room for improvements, there IS another way to do it & get multiple replies, though it is kind of weird. 1. Type ^X2 in the MESSAGES window. (Gary mentioned doing this in the sendmessage window, which then doesn't get you reply-to behavior.) 2. Read the SECOND message you want to reply to in the NEW messages window. 3. Reply to it from there. Now you have two messages windows and two sendmessage windows, all in one process, and tied together in pairs. I think that comes closer to what you asked for than the other workarounds that have been posted... -- Nathaniel Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 3706;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Steven Glickstein Received: from muffin.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 10:02:34 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from muffin.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 10:01:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.muffin.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.muffin.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 10:01:45 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8dhXTNO00VsBImxl1e@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 10:01:45 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Steven Glickstein X-Andrew-Message-Size: 2089+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Andrew Toolkit Consortium Newsletter Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 13:01:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 12:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for gk5g+; Thu, 5 Mar 92 12:56:55 EST Received: from spade.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.26]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11600>; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:56:35 PST Received: by spade.parc.xerox.com id <8192>; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:56:27 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.spade.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.spade.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:56:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 09:56:13 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen To: Info-Andrew , Bill Janssen , Nick Williams , Gary Keim Subject: Re: big in text appearance In-Reply-To: References: I looked over the code again, and I don't think anything we changed would cause this. One interesting thing about Andrew is the way it uses the X protocol request X_PolyText8, rather than the overwhelmingly more common X_ImageText8 (xterm, xemacs, the Sun tools -- pretty much everything that doesn't do formatted text, I suspect). I've found a number of servers that have bugs in their X_PolyText8 implementation which just plain don't show up if people aren't using Andrew. It's fairly simple to write a small X test that puts up a window, then draws the same string on it in two different locations using both X_ImageText8 and X_PolyText8. You might want to try it. Bill Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1210;alw.nih.gov;Bob Dew Received: from kirin.dcrt.nih.gov via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl@andre w.cmu.edu) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:11:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from spot.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:10:46 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from spot.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:08:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from dude.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:07:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from dude.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:07:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dude.dcrt.nih.gov.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.dude.dcrt.nih.gov.sun4_41; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:07:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:07:06 -0500 (EST) From: Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov X-Andrew-Message-Size: 380+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:33:20 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:30:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:30:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 14:30:24 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 334+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:25:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:22:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from vnet.ibm.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Thu, 5 Mar 92 16:22:51 EST Received: from RCHLAND by vnet.ibm.com (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3356; Thu, 05 Mar 92 16:22:21 EST Reply-To: "Dave Gross" Received: by po1.rchland.ibm.com (5.51/4.7) id for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 92 15:13:35 CST Received: via switchmail; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 15:13:33 -0600 (CST) Received: from ultimate.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 15:13:23 -0600 (CST) Received: from ultimate.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 15:13:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.ultimate.rchland.ibm.com.rs.a ix32 via MS.5.6.ultimate.rchland.ibm.com.rs_aix32; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 15:13:20 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 15:13:20 -0600 (CST) From: Dave Gross To: Info-Andrew Subject: highlight colors in ATK Is someone looking into how ATK chooses highlight colors? I have a background of a dark blue and forground of light blue. When I highlight some text, it shows up yellow on white. Not very readable. Is there a way to set the fg and bg for highlight colors? -- Dave Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:53:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:51:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 5 Mar 92 16:51:29 EST Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11833>; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 13:51:00 PST Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <25544>; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 13:50:51 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 13:50:39 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <8dhdSjEB0KGW0C0tUP@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 13:50:39 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1195+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1210;alw.nih.gov;Bob Dew Received: from kirin.dcrt.nih.gov via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 17:57:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from spot.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 17:54:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from dude.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 17:54:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from dude.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 17:54:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dude.dcrt.nih.gov.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.dude.dcrt.nih.gov.sun4_40; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 17:54:11 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 17:54:11 -0500 (EST) From: Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov To: Info-Andrew , Bill Janssen Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: <8dhdSjEB0KGW0C0tUP@holmes.parc.xerox.com> References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> <8dhdSjEB0KGW0C0tUP@holmes.parc.xerox.com> We're running MIT X11R4 under Sun OS 4.1.1 on color Sparc 2's. Since applying the xgraphic patches two days ago, several regular messages users reported that messages sometimes crashes when "Delete Window" is selected from a messages composition window. I haven't been able to reproduce the problem on demand, except under this (suspiciously) specific scenario: 1) compose a new message containing an X Window Dump raster inset 2) select "Negative" under the Raster Ops menu 2) select "Delete Window" This sequence of actions crashes the patched version of messages, but executes correctly in earlier versions. Not to open a can of worms, but the reason we were selecting "Negative" from Raster Ops is that messages *usually* transmits raster images as the inverse video of that displayed in the composition window. Bob Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 19:09:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 19:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 5 Mar 92 19:07:22 EST Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11938>; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:07:09 PST Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <25544>; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:06:59 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:06:52 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <0dhfSQYB0KGW4CYkYX@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 16:06:52 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 7891+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from sceptrum.weh.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 20:24:15 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from sceptrum.weh.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 20:22:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.sceptrum.weh.andrew.cmu.edu.pm ax.ul4 via MS.5.6.sceptrum.weh.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 20:22:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 20:22:17 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 453+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: <0dhfSQYB0KGW4CYkYX@holmes.parc.xerox.com> References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> <0dhfSQYB0KGW4CYkYX@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from sceptrum.weh.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 20:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from sceptrum.weh.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 20:55:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.sceptrum.weh.andrew.cmu.edu.pm ax.ul4 via MS.5.6.sceptrum.weh.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 20:55:51 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 20:55:51 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 458+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> <0dhfSQYB0KGW4CYkYX@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 21:32:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 21:31:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Thu, 5 Mar 92 21:31:51 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu; Thu, 5 Mar 92 21:31:46 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov; Thu, 5 Mar 92 21:31:45 EST Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.galaxy.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.greenbush.galaxy.sun4_41; Thu, 5 Mar 1992 21:31:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 5 Mar 1992 21:31:40 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein X-Andrew-Message-Size: 315+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: <8dhdSjEB0KGW0C0tUP@holmes.parc.xerox.com> References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> <8dhdSjEB0KGW0C0tUP@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 10:40:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 10:37:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 6 Mar 92 10:37:51 EST Received: by orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.30jrs) id AA11773; Fri, 6 Mar 92 10:37:47 -0500 From: robb@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike ( Beaker ) ) Message-Id: <9203061537.AA11773@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: andrew installing To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Fri, 6 Mar 92 10:37:46 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL9] I am almost done installing andrew ( Two directories to go ) But I cant figure out this bug - or how to get around it. We are not using AFS. I have the #defines for AFS_ENV taken out of site.h. Can you help me out? thanks -- Mike Robb ************************************************** make DESTDIR=/home/orchestra5/robb/mit/itc/released install /home/orchestra5/robb/mit/itc/released/etc/install -c -m 0444 cmu.ovrvw /home/orchestra5/robb/mit/itc/released/lib/help.overviews /home/orchestra5/robb/mit/itc/released/etc/install -c -m 0444 cmu.prgms /home/orchestra5/robb/mit/itc/released/lib/help.programs /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/hm99/index/installandyindex."sun4_41" /home/orchestra5/robb/mit/itc/released sh: /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/hm99/index/installandyindex.sun4_41: not found *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `install.time' Current working directory /home/orchestra5/robb/mit/helpindex *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 13;andrew.cmu.edu;Fred Hansen Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 11:46:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 11:45:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.a ix31 via MS.5.6.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 11:45:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <4dhu6oK00VtjJ7d4Be@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 11:45:40 -0500 (EST) From: Fred Hansen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 498+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Genrerating .dog files In-Reply-To: References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> <8dhdSjEB0KGW0C0tUP@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 38;andrew.cmu.edu;Susan Straub Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:08:46 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:08:16 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:04:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:03:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.aos 4 via MS.5.6.emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_aos4; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:03:30 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:03:30 -0500 (EST) From: Susan Straub X-Andrew-Message-Size: 303+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: robb@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike ( Beaker ) ) Subject: Re: andrew installing CC: Info-Andrew In-Reply-To: <9203061537.AA11773@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> References: <9203061537.AA11773@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 13:14:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for susan+; Fri, 6 Mar 92 13:14:00 EST Received: by orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.30jrs) id AA13747; Fri, 6 Mar 92 13:13:42 -0500 From: robb@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike ( Beaker ) ) Message-Id: <9203061813.AA13747@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: Re: andrew installing To: susan+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan Straub) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 92 13:13:41 EST In-Reply-To: ; from "Susan Straub" at Mar 6, 92 12:03 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL9] -> Mike, -> I think you might have CMU_ENV defined in your site.h file. You should -> take that out, rerun imake, then remake world in the helpindex -> directory. If this doesn't fix the problem, will you please send me a -> copy of your site.h and site.mcr files? Thanks. -> Susan Straub - Andrew Toolkit Consortium thanks ;-) -- mike Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 14:20:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 14:17:43 -0500 (EST) Received: from meese.ecn.purdue.edu by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 6 Mar 92 14:17:37 EST Received: by meese.ecn.purdue.edu (5.65/1.30jrs) id AA16638; Fri, 6 Mar 92 14:17:35 -0500 From: robb@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike ( Beaker ) ) Message-Id: <9203061917.AA16638@meese.ecn.purdue.edu> Subject: Installing Andrew at Purdue University To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Fri, 6 Mar 92 14:17:34 EST X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL9] After getting the makefiles to output with no errors the executables for a sun4 -- There are a couple of bugs that I have come accross: ( I have only tried these two ) It seems that if I am rlogin'd into another account ( sun4 ) that is trying to bring up windows on the console that I am on. This gives an error. If however I run preview on a sun4 ( console ) and try to have it bring up windows on itself, it works. With console, it is looking for a file in the "projects" directory. Nothing from the makefiles puts anything into this directory ( it is empty ). Can you help me out? --thanks -- Mike ************************************************** console Starting console (Version 7.6, ATK 5.0.0); please wait... Console: Cannot find library /home/orchestra5/robb/mit/itc/projects/lib/consoles: error 2 ERROR: Console couldn't open Default; proceeding with fudgenut.con... Could not open the display; this program will not run without a window system. Could not create new window. exiting. ************************************************** nmt -Tpsc /home/harbor3/robb/Other/Letters/follow_up | /home/orchestra5/robb/mit/itc/released/bin/preview Starting preview (Version 7.0, ATK 5.0.0); please wait... Could not open the display; this program will not run without a window system. preview: Could not create new window; exiting. ************************************************** Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:08:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:06:47 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:05:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from dolphin.icase.edu by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 6 Mar 92 15:04:53 EST Received: by dolphin.icase.edu (5.65.1/lanleaf2.4.9) id AA01797; Fri, 6 Mar 92 15:04:47 -0500 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dolphin.icase.edu.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.dolphin.icase.edu.sun4_41; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:04:43 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:04:43 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Crockett X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1677+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Bizarre Messages Behavior Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:44:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:43:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 6 Mar 92 15:43:18 EST Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11774>; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:42:49 PST Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <25544>; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:42:46 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:42:38 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:42:38 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 525+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov, Nathaniel Borenstein Subject: ATK under GDB In-Reply-To: References: <8dhb5O20ts4j85Nn8B@alw.nih.gov> <8dhdSjEB0KGW0C0tUP@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 13;andrew.cmu.edu;Fred Hansen Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 16:11:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 16:11:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 16:09:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 16:08:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.a ix31 via MS.5.6.lieutenant.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 16:08:37 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 16:08:37 -0500 (EST) From: Fred Hansen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 883+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: robb@ecn.purdue.edu (Mike ( Beaker ) ) Subject: Re: andrew installing CC: Info-Andrew In-Reply-To: <9203061537.AA11773@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> References: <9203061537.AA11773@orchestra.ecn.purdue.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 17:09:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 16:19:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:41:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 15:38:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Fri, 6 Mar 92 15:37:45 EST Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <12033>; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:32:05 PST Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <25544>; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:31:57 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:31:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 12:31:51 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen X-Andrew-Message-Size: 575+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: patch to atkams/messages/cmd/messages.tpl Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 21:44:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 21:42:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from alpha.xerox.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Fri, 6 Mar 92 21:42:14 EST Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <11638>; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 18:42:01 PST Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <25544>; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 18:41:49 -0800 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 18:41:42 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 18:41:42 PST Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen To: Info-Andrew , Bill Janssen , Nick Williams Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: References: This is very odd. I've looked through the xgraphic code again, and can't see any reason why this should be. About the only possible cause is that the xgraphic_XGC field isn't being set up properly. However, it seems OK everywhere. Your problem really sounds like a font problem. I can't see anything in our patch that might turn it on and off. I suspect I'd have to have an xscope trace of the request stream to make some sense of it. Bill Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Sat, 7 Mar 1992 12:28:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sat, 7 Mar 1992 12:27:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Sat, 7 Mar 92 12:27:39 EST Received: from cs.city.ac.uk by sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk via JANET with NIFTP id <4969-0@sun2.nsfnet-relay.ac.uk>; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 09:57:02 +0000 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.barney.cs.city.ac.uk.sun4.40 via MS.5.6.barney.cs.city.ac.uk.sun4_40; Fri, 6 Mar 1992 09:57:41 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 6 Mar 1992 09:57:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Nick Williams X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1636+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Bill Janssen Subject: Re: new xgraphic.c patch for everyone In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Sun, 8 Mar 1992 21:07:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 8 Mar 1992 21:06:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeport.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 8 Mar 1992 21:05:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from freeport.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Sun, 8 Mar 1992 21:05:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.freeport.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.aos 4 via MS.5.6.freeport.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_aos4; Sun, 8 Mar 1992 21:05:36 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0digTkS00Vs=A6CIco@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Sun, 8 Mar 1992 21:05:36 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 602+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , "Dave Gross" Subject: Re: highlight colors in ATK In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 9 Mar 1992 13:07:36 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Mar 1992 13:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from Athena.MIT.EDU by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew+; Mon, 9 Mar 92 13:03:11 EST Received: from LAKOTA.MIT.EDU by Athena.MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA03744; Mon, 9 Mar 92 13:03:03 EST From: wdc@Athena.MIT.EDU Received: by lakota.MIT.EDU (5.61/4.7) id AA16726; Mon, 9 Mar 92 13:02:57 -0500 Message-Id: <9203091802.AA16726@lakota.MIT.EDU> To: Robert Andrew Ryan Cc: Info-Andrew , "Dave Gross" Subject: Re: highlight colors in ATK In-Reply-To: Your message of Sun, 08 Mar 92 21:05:36 -0500. <0digTkS00Vs=A6CIco@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 09 Mar 92 13:02:55 EST One kludge for highlighting that I remember from my old X version 10 days: Choose foreground colors and background colors who's color number in the color table are XORs of each other. Then highlighting with XOR does the right thing. Is this of any use? -wdc Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 9 Mar 1992 19:04:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Mar 1992 19:01:47 -0500 (EST) Received: from relay1.UU.NET by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Mon, 9 Mar 92 19:01:30 EST Received: from uunet.uu.net (via LOCALHOST.UU.NET) by relay1.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA15618; Mon, 9 Mar 92 19:01:29 -0500 Received: from sgihbtn.UUCP by uunet.uu.net with UUCP/RMAIL (queueing-rmail) id 190003.9022; Mon, 9 Mar 1992 19:00:03 EST Received: from hood by sierra.com (4.1/SMI-3.2) id AA18606; Mon, 9 Mar 92 14:28:02 PST Received: by hood (5.57/ULTRIX-fma-031491); id AA11527; Mon, 9 Mar 92 14:28:09 -0800 Message-Id: <9203092228.AA11527@hood> To: uunet!andrew.cmu.edu!info-andrew@uunet.UU.NET Subject: AMS and NNTP Date: Mon, 09 Mar 92 14:28:05 -0800 From: sgihbtn!lipp@uunet.UU.NET Does anyone have any hints on how to use MESSAGES to read news with NNTP? Thanks for any info, Damon Lipparelli (lipp@sierra.com) Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 00:16:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 00:13:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Tue, 10 Mar 92 00:13:46 EST Received: by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (5.63/1.43) id AA08658; Mon, 9 Mar 92 21:09:49 -0800 Received: from USENET by ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU with netnews for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu (info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu) (contact usenet@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU if you have questions) Date: 7 Mar 92 02:28:02 GMT From: csus.edu!wupost!usc!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!galileo.cc.rochester .edu!crocus.medicine.rochester.edu!ajp2o@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu (Anthony J. Persechini) Organization: University of Rochester Subject: Problems with Andrew on an sgi_4d Message-Id: <1992Mar7.022802.17811@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> Sender: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu I installed Andrew on an sgi4d20G running Irix4.0.1 and it seems to work fine except that when I attempt to open a sub-window from an inset to ez; i.e, chimp or table, it results in a core dump. Anyone else see anything like this and track it down? -- Anthony Persechini Assistant Professor University of Rochester School of Medicine ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 09:01:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 09:00:59 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 08:57:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from dolphin.icase.edu by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Tue, 10 Mar 92 08:57:45 EST Received: by dolphin.icase.edu (5.65.1/lanleaf2.4.9) id AA03731; Tue, 10 Mar 92 08:57:30 -0500 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dolphin.icase.edu.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.dolphin.icase.edu.sun4_41; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 08:57:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 08:57:27 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Crockett X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1949+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: Bizarre Messages Behavior In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 10706;andrew.cmu.edu;Michael J. McInerny Received: from ardmore.itc.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 10:25:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from ardmore.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 10:22:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.ardmore.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.ardmore.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix31; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 10:22:54 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 10:22:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael J. McInerny" X-Andrew-Message-Size: 699+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Bizarre Messages Behavior In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1210;alw.nih.gov;Bob Dew Received: from spot.dcrt.nih.gov via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 12:31:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from spot.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 12:30:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from dude.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 12:28:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from dude.dcrt.nih.gov via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 12:28:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.dude.dcrt.nih.gov.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.dude.dcrt.nih.gov.sun4_41; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 12:28:24 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 12:28:24 -0500 (EST) From: Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov To: Info-Andrew Subject: running a non-AFS AMDS Could somebody comment on the implications of running AMDS built with AFS_ENV not defined? We recently built Andrew on an sgi4d70G running Irix4.0.1 and equipped with Transarc's AFS/NFS translator. We built Andrew using the same configuration files that we use with our AFS-environment platforms (suns, decs and ibms), with the one exception that AFS_ENV was undefined. That is, we built Andrew for the sgi with RUN_AMDS_ENV, AMS_DELIVERY_ENV, and WHITEPAGES_ENV defined, but AFS_ENV undefined. Messages, and its familiar components like queuemail and wp*, compiled and installed successfully. I'm wondering now what's *supposed* to happen when messages runs? Should queuemail still try to insert new messages into our AFS delivery system? Should we expect that addresses will be verified against our AFS White Pages database? As is, nothing much works on the sgi, except that old messages can be read from folders. Sending new messages results in an error indicating a problem with /etc/oldsendmail, and reading new mail gives a message that says, "Messages in .../Mailbox could not be properly read and delivered". Finally, "wpq user_name" returns the message, "B-tree: No such file or directory". Any advice on how we might use AMDS from an sgi to communicate with our other AFS-environment platforms would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bob Dew National Institutes of Health Bethesda, MD 20892 (301) 496-5361 rdew@alw.nih.gov Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:11:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:10:19 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:08:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from thumper.bellcore.com by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (5.54/3.15) id for info-andrew; Tue, 10 Mar 92 13:07:48 EST Received: from greenbush.bellcore.com by thumper.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 92 13:07:46 EST Received: by greenbush.bellcore.com (4.1/4.7) id for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu; Tue, 10 Mar 92 13:07:45 EST Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.greenbush.galaxy.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.greenbush.galaxy.sun4_41; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:07:40 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4djDfgW0M2Yt0E28h7@thumper.bellcore.com> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:07:40 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: running a non-AFS AMDS In-Reply-To: References: You're on somewhat shakey ground here. I seriously doubt that anyone has ever run AMDS without AFS before. It may well be possible, I just don't know. Here's a possible fallback position: Configure your SGI as if it were not running AMDS (i.e. have a different AndrewSetup file for it) and set up its sendmail configuration to simply deliver all mail to the AMDS postoffice in your real AFS cell. Not quite as efficient, but more or less guaranteed to work... -- Nathaniel X-Andrew-Authenticated-As: 469;andrew.cmu.edu;Craig F. Everhart Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1312;transarc.com;Craig Everhart Received: from apollo.transarc.com via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl@andre w.cmu.edu) ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:59:07 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from apollo.transarc.com via qmail ID ; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:55:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.7.14.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.apollo.transarc.com.pmax.3 via MS.5.6.apollo.transarc.com.pmax_3; Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:55:19 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 10 Mar 1992 13:55:19 -0500 (EST) From: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1456+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew , Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov Subject: Re: running a non-AFS AMDS In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1210;alw.nih.gov;Bob Dew Received: from spot.dcrt.nih.gov via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; 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