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Subject: Re: letter-bomb with tm! Cc: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu
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Well, that's sort of why I asked the question.  What you described seems
to be the *intended* behavior, but I couldn't get it to happen -- tm's
Write method seems to be broken, and just writes out csh -c -f instead
of what it is supposed to write out.  The only way I could find of
reproducing the tm bug was to put together a data stream by hand.
Granted that this is still a horrible bug that has to be taken care of
immediately, I was intensely curious as to how you discovered it.  Still
am, for that matter, since I haven't found any way to make the bug
happen without putting together the data stream by hand. 
If you're going to give a detailed answer, however, it is probably best
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Hmm...  One obvious possibility is that "test" is already a legitimate
user id or global or personal alias on your system.  Another possibility
is that you've got AMS_OnlyMail: 1 set in your configuration, though I
don't *think* that would explain this one.   Another possibility is that
you don't have your *.mspath preference right. 
I suggest trying the following:  Run the cui program and type: 
set level wizard set term 0 set debug 0 0 0 -1 whois test 
The "whois" command is simply a test/probe into the address validation
routines.  Doing this with messagserver debugging turned on will produce
some voluminous output.  If the output doesn't make the problem clear,
then you could at least post the output to this mailing list and it is
more likely that someone will be able to diagnose it better.  Good luck.
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I am running zip (patchlevel 3) and having some problems.  Most of all,
it doesn't appear to work at all.  I get a window, but it is basically
blank.  If I click MB2, I get the menus, but I also get messages like
the following: 
ZIP Default Exception Handler -- Facility ''  Status '1' ZIP Default
Exception Handler -- Facility ''  Status '1' ZIP Default Exception
Handler -- Facility ''  Status '21' ZIP Default Exception Handler --
Facility ''  Status '21' 
and then ZIP quits.  Has anyone else seen this?? 
BTW, this is running on a MVII with X11R4 patchlevel 2.  

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11:39:44 -0600 (CST) From: Brian Capouch <brianc@zeta.saintjoe.EDU> To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Revving Up 
Could any of you folks out there tell me whether it will be safe for me
to "rev up" to R4 on top of existing R3 user data files? 
Specifically, most of our users have pretty highly populated .MESSAGES
directories that I'm sure they'd want to access after our rev change. 
Are there any gotchas I need to be aware of before I start the upgrade? 
If it's of further help, no one here is programming in Andrew; we're
just using stock applications that come on the contrib tape. 
Thanks in advance; if this info is deemed uninteresting to the group why
not email it directly to me. 
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90 01:51:10 GMT From: ladcgw!hermes!fmayhar@uunet.uu.net  (Frank Mayhar)
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc. Los Angeles Development
Center Subject: Andrew on a Sun 386i? Message-Id:
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Perhaps this has been hashed over before, but here goes... 
Before I jump into trying to port Andrew to the Sun 386i, has anyone
already done that?  Or, if not, can anyone give me any porting hints, or
point be at any documentation that might make my task a little easier? 
Thanks in advance. -- Frank Mayhar  fmayhar@hermes.ladc.bull.com
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I need you help. 

We are still in trouble andrew on IBM Mpel display with X11R4 server. X
is pactched fix-1, fix-2 and compiled with hc2.1y. Ordinary x
clients(e.g. xterm and etc) work without problem, but the andrew clients
do NOT work correctly. Of course, andrew on IBM APA16 works without
problem. 
Is anyone solove the problem about the X11R4 server runs on Mpel on RT ?
Any infomation will be welcome. 
	-kaz 	kaz@slab.math.keio.ac.jp 	Kaz Kitagawa 	Dept. of Math. KEIO Univ.
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I think this one is actually fairly easy to diagnose. 
Somewhere deep in the bowels of the documentation, I'm pretty sure that
it says that an AMS tree root must be a directory whose name starts with
".MESSAGES".  That is, it can be ".MESSAGES", ".MESSAGES_foobar", etc.
The reason for this restriction is that it is often necessary to find
the root of an AMS tree, given a folder path name.  The root is now
well-defined as the first .MESSAGES* directory that it finds upon
climbing up the tree. 
Given that your root does not follow this convention, I suspect that AMS
is unable to figure out where to look for the .amsalien file, and then
things break down further from there.  
My suggestion is that you create a symbolic link from ~/.MESSAGES_MH to
~/Mail, and make ~/.MESSAGES_MH the thing you add to your mspath
preference.  My guess is that if that does not solve the problem, it
will at least get you considerably further along before the next problem
rears its ugly head. 
BTW, I do recommend that you incorporate patches 1-3, especially since
you're on a SPARC, for which several core dump bug fixes have been
released.  
Also, in answer to your debugging question:  the magic command you want
for any messageserver-related  debugging is "set debug 0 0 0 -1".   You
can control the quantity of output by replacing the -1 with some other
number, but then you'll have to look at the code to figure out which
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I don't believe there should be any changes that will have a noticable
impact on the users.  Messages version 7.X was primarily a code cleanup
-- the version is more internally consistent, and (I believe) less buggy
than 6.23, which appears to be what you're running now.  Also, there are
a few really neat new features...  At any rate, I don't think there were
any changes to the user data file formats.  
Obviously there's always a chance that you could compile things with
some options wrong, so you do want to test it out a bit before releasing
it to your users.  The problems you're likely to have are not related so
much to data formats as to things like whether the resolver is running,
etc.  
When you make the upgrade, be sure to get the patches that have been
released -- things will run without them but you could spare yourself a
few bugs. 
I also recommend upgrading your X11 release to R4; the performance
improvements are pretty amazing.  
Hope this helps.  -- Nathaniel Return-path:
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There's always the tried-and-true "fall back to troff" method -- just
add the appropriate troff commands and wrap them in a "FormatNote"
environment.  It isn't pretty, but it works.  I'd tell you what the
troff commands are, except that I'm at home and my troff manuals are at
work.  I think it invoves ".de fo" or something like that. 
There's been regular talk about a "formatting control" inset that you
could place in a document and interact with to produce things like this,
instead of having to know the raw troff yourself.  (Indeed, the
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>Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> writes: >Somewhere deep
in the bowels of the documentation, I'm pretty sure that >it says that
an AMS tree root must be a directory whose name starts with
>".MESSAGES".  That is, it can be ".MESSAGES", ".MESSAGES_foobar", etc.
>The reason for this restriction is that it is often necessary to find
>the root of an AMS tree, given a folder path name.  The root is now
>well-defined as the first .MESSAGES* directory that it finds upon
>climbing up the tree. 
Well, I definitely think that was one of the problems. I actually took
it one step further. I sym-linked ~/.MESSAGES to ~/Mail - so MH and
messages just share the same tree - period. Bill Cattey gave me the
other piece of the answer. In order for .amsalien and scavenge to work
you need to first "CREATE" the folder with CUI. I tried this on existing
MH folders and it works just fine. If the directory doesn't exist it
creates it, if it already exists it just creates .MS_MsgDir and leaves
everything else alone. 

>BTW, I do recommend that you incorporate patches 1-3, especially since
>you're on a SPARC, for which several core dump bug fixes have been
>released.  
I've been intending to, but someone stole my disk space!! :-) So I
gather with patch level 3 everything works, even when compiling with -O? 
>Also, in answer to your debugging question:  the magic command you want
>for any messageserver-related  debugging is "set debug 0 0 0 -1".   You
>can control the quantity of output by replacing the -1 with some other
>number, but then you'll have to look at the code to figure out which
>number you want, which is probably not worth the trouble....   
Thanks, I won't loose the message this time! 
>Hope that helps.  -- Nathaniel 
Sure does! Thanks again - to you and Bill.... To anyone listening at
CMU: you may want to add these little tidbit's of info to the doc's on
how to use the .amsalien stuff. Just in case there is one more person
out there interested in using it - it'll probably save them a couple
hours. :-) 
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Is there a document somewhere (latex, ditroff, or text file) that gives
an overview of andrew and all its features? I couldn't find anything on
the R4 tapes apart from individual descriptions of ams, atk, and oda. We
want to know exactly what it does before attempting to compile it on our
hybrid SYSV/BSD monster/machine. 
	Thanks in advance, dmh 
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<munnari!otc.otca.oz.au!grahamd@uunet.UU.NET> To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Modification so bush handles
compressed files. 
We use bush here as a quick way of getting access to local information
files; ie. we have 'Info-local' bound to 'bush /usr/local/information'
in the window manager setup file. Now, one of the things we keep in
/usr/local/information is compressed listings for remote ftp and
fetchfile sites, but the standard bush doesn't understand the concept of
compressed files. 
Ideally one would have an object which could read and write a compressed
files and then having an addfiletype in your .ezinit file. You could
probably even make it so that it understood compressed Andrew files; ie
foo.ez.Z. I would have to think a bit about how to do this though; not
having written an Andrew inset, so I made the following quick change to
bush until I do get around to creating such a thing. 
It only works for viewing a file, ie. double clicking on an entry,
obviously it doesn't work for editing. 
Hope that some one else finds this feature as useful as we have. 
Graham Dumpleton (grahamd@otc.otca.oz.au) 


*** bushv.c.dist	Thu Nov 23 03:52:30 1989 --- bushv.c	Fri Mar  2
17:21:03 1990 *************** *** 1633,1641 ****      
PostCursor(self,Cursor_Wait);       Object = entry_object;      
sprintf(file_name,"%s/%s",bush_DirPath(Bush,CurrNode),CurrEntry->name);
!     sprintf(msg,"reading '%s'",file_name); !    
bushv_Announce(self,msg); !     if(EntryFilep = fopen(file_name,"r")) { 
 	objectName = filetype_Lookup(EntryFilep,file_name,&objectID,NULL);  
	if(!objectName) objectName = "text";   	if(EntryView) { --- 1633,1669
----       PostCursor(self,Cursor_Wait);       Object = entry_object;   
  
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	objectName = filetype_Lookup(EntryFilep,file_name,&objectID,NULL);  
	if(!objectName) objectName = "text";   	if(EntryView) { Return-path:
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>Nathaniel Borenstein <nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> writes: 
>No, that's a Sun compiler bug, not an Andrew bug.  But I think that at
>least -O is no longer the default!  
Well yeah, that makes sense. I recall detecting a Sun compiler bug with
the beta version in the whitepages code. I don't know if I'd *totally*
blame it on Sun's compiler (though there's no excuse for different
behavior with or w/o -O). These bugs tend to crop up in some "not so
kosher" (and not so portable) code (e.g. passing structs or unions and
expecting pointers - that sort of thing), where assumptions are made
about what the compiler is generating. 
I don't think I've seen any mention of this on the list. Has anyone
tried building Andrew on a SPARC machine using GCC (GNU C Compiler,
where using -O tends not to break your code)? Thanks! 
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I'm trying to build Andrew from the X11R4 tapes, with patchlevel 3
applied.  My hardware is an IBM RT running AIX 2.2.1.  I have all my
site files edited, but when I run the imake: 
imake -I. -I./config -Timake.tmpl -s Makefile -DTOPDIR=. 
the Makefile that results does NOT have any site info in it, the top
looks like: 
# # This makefile is automatically generated by imake... do not modify #
or you may lose your changes when imake generates makefiles again. #
Ignore this message if you are not using imake. # 
# # The following comes from the macro file # 
# # Back from the macro file # 

In imake.tmpl, I looked, and saw where the rt_aix221 info is supposed to
get included: if defined (AIX) && (!defined(i386))..., but it is not
included. I made a test file with the same set of defines, and ran it
through cc -E, and it came out as expected. 
Sounds like a problem with imake, but has anybody else had this problem
on an RT with AIX? 
Thanks James Nau james@engrts02.unl.edu 
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Subject: Help Request on Build Failure 

I'm really in a jam now.. .. .. .. in order to gain enough room to build
the new release of Andrew, I had to delete all of the previous tree. And
now, the build won't build. 
Six and half hours into the build, a meltdown building in
/atkams/messages/lib: 
doload:  Errors while processing doload:  Undefined symbol: _h_errno
doload:  Undefined symbol: _res_search doload:  Undefined symbol:
_dn_skipname doload:  Undefined symbol: _dn_expand doload:  Undefined
symbol: __res doload:  Undefined symbol: _res_init doload:  Errors while
processing doindex: NULL entrypoint from amsn.do...program terminated!
*** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `amsn.do' 
Everything else for all those hours seemed to be OK.  And of course,
since I'm not an Andrew programmer, I don't know how to fix this--it
appears to be something makedo was mad about.  The command that caused
this was: 
/usr/andrew/bin/makedo  -d /usr/andrew/lib -b /usr/andrew/bin -o amsn.do
 amsn.o  stubs.o  /usr/andrew/lib/libcui.a /usr/andrew/lib/libcuin.a 
/usr/andrew/lib/li bmssrv.a  /usr/andrew/lib/libeli.a
/usr/andrew/lib/librxp.a  /usr/andrew/lib/lib msshr.a 
/usr/andrew/lib/libmail.a /usr/andrew/lib/liberrors.a  /usr/andrew/lib/
libutil.a 
To save space, I do not report that "doindex" complained about all those
references right above this point. 
Could I have done something wrong?  I can't get into messages now to
read whether someone previously found this.  Oh woe.  
Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
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Subject: Hidden fonts for messages? 

Thanks to the folks at CMU and Craig Everhart, I now have my system up
and running.  There's only one remaining funny, and I'm sure this is
going to be an easy one: some of the icons that messages used to use
aren't visible anymore, specifically the ones doing with envelope and
folder icons. 
Is there some path I need to do now that didn't used to be there?  The
old version worked perfectly. 
Thanks to everyone out there for all the help; I'm so happy to be able
to use Andrew again. 
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  ____ I don't have a bug, just a question.  When in ez, I can bring in
a fad inset, and then ez will dynamically load in the fad code.  But
what if I bring in ANOTHER fad inset?  Will ez load the code in again? 
If I'm writing a paper and I use 17 charts, and I'm on a machine with
not a lot of memory, will ez get slower and slower?  I know that if I
had lots of fad processes (or lots of ez processes) then the text space
would be shared, but I didn't think that insets made new processes.