\begindata{text,560831608} \textdsversion{12} \template{default} \define{excerptedcaption attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768] attr:[RightMargin RightMargin Inch 32768] attr:[Flags IncludeBeginning Int Clear] attr:[Flags IncludeEnd Int Clear] attr:[FontFace Bold Int Set] attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]} \define{h attr:[FontFamily rom Int 0] attr:[FontSize ConstantFontSize Point 6]} \define{f attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point 6] attr:['color' '#A02000']} \define{e attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -2] attr:['color' '#B03000']} \define{d attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1] attr:['color' '#C05000']} \define{c attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1] attr:['color' '#D06000']} \define{b attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1] attr:['color' '#E08000']} \define{a attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1] attr:['color' '#F0A000']} \define{g attr:['color' '#CD8500']} \bold{Date}: Thu, 2 Feb 95 14:02:43 EST \bold{From}: ave@tekelec.com (Anthony Edwards) \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Follow-up: newbie questions... (icon12 font on SunOS) Written by Robert Andrew Ryan : > Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 19-Dec-94 newbie questions... > Anthony Edwards@tekelec1 (699) > \ > > Just one tiny-weenie little interface > > problem: My text caret (in typescript, ez, messages...) is a black > > circle with 2 check marks. \ > > This is the same problem recently discussed on the mailing list under > the subject: SunOS and Icons. > > The solution is to run: > xset +fp /usr/local/andrew/X11fonts/ > > before running any ATK apps. > > The problem is a name conflict between the openwindows fonts and ATK. \ > (they both have a font called icon12) I originally posted my question about the symbol problem back in mid-December. Although I received useful tips, I never quite solved the problem. The above solution only provided half the answer for me. Finally, today, I figured out the other half. This may be particular to me or perhaps I missed some script which was supposed to fix the problem. I dunno. Problem: When I run Typescript (or ez or ...) under X11R4 on SunOS, I get the letter 'a' for my cursor and the character '|' for the text caret. Solution: Make sure all the font files are in .snf format. It finally occurred to me to actually look at the icon12 file - it was icon12.bnf. Using the \ bdftosnf program and changing all the file names in fonts.dir from *.bdf to *.snf did the trick. I had to restart X before this took effect. Thanks to Robert Andrew Ryan for helping me out with this one. - Anthony \bold{Date}: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 13:46:31 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: David Martin \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Andrew Configurations Hello: I was wondering could someone help me with 2 problems that I am having. 1) Is there a way to configure the menus I am having a problem with the way the fonts and things are expressed (for example I sould rather be able \ to switch to different sysle instead of just smaller,bigger ,or typewriter? How about 14pitch or script with the options of font pitches ) just a suggestion. 2) How do I make my backspace key remove the things I just typed instead of having to go back to the point in front of the error? Thank you . david martin \bold{Date}: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:33:27 -0600 (CST) \bold{From}: Robert Kemmetmueller \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Re: Andrew Configurations \excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 3-Feb-95 Andrew Configurations David Martin@cs.odu.edu (542*)} \quotation{1) Is there a way to configure the menus[...?] } Sure, use the style editor to add new styles. You can add them directly to a particular document, or edit the template (.tpl file) and add them there for use in other files. See the help files for "lookz" and "templates". \quotation{2) How do I make my backspace key remove the things I just typed instead of having to go back to the point in front of the error? } Hmm, that SHOULD be the default behavior, methinks. What proc is your Backspace key bound to? Use the "deskey-describe-key" proc (typically called via Shift-Alt-?), and then press Backspace. You should see: Describe key: ^H -> textview-delete-previous-character: Delete the previous character. If you see something other than "^H", you've got a goofy keyboard or else you're talking about some key OTHER THAN Backspace. If you see something other than "textview-delete-previous-character", check your site's initfiles (/usr/andrew/lib/global.*init, etc), for goofy customizations your site admin's may have done. \center{ \h{\f{R\e{o\d{b\c{er\b{t K\a{emme}tmu}el}l}e}r }\g{rskm@rchland 3-4968 }}} \bold{Date}: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:57:31 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Stephan Greene \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: problem building AUIS 6.3.1- on Solaris I am trying to build AUIS 6.3.1 from source on Solaris 2.3 with gcc 2.6.0, for use with OpenWindows. Whenever "cregister" is run in trying to build a .do file, I get the error "/dev/fd/3: Bad file number" like so: /home/greene/auis/bin/cregister /home/greene/auis testobj.do \\ testobj.o --- /dev/fd/3: Bad file number make[1]: *** [testobj.do] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/greene/auis-6.3.1/overhead/class/testing' make: *** [dependInstall] Error 2 What does cregister really do, anyway? I've tweaked my site.h and site.mcr, and I believe they are correct, and that this problem lies somewhere more basic than there. I am stumped. Curiously, I originally installed and succesfully ran the binary distribution version of AUIS, and that worked fine. But compiling my own application against it produced the same error with cregister. I would appreciate any insight into this that anyone can provide. Stephan Greene greene@monster.umd.edu \bold{Date}: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:36:22 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Robert Andrew Ryan \bold{To}: Info-Andrew , Stephan Greene \bold{Subject}: Re: problem building AUIS 6.3.1- on Solaris cregister is just a c-shell script. Do you have csh installed? What versions of nm, sed and awk do you have in your path? (I 'm particularly suspicious that you may have a buggy version of gnu sed or awk in your path.) Perhaps the /dev/fd/ error is coming from one of them. The script itself doesn't explicitly reference /dev/fd. This could be a configuration problem with the software installed on the machine, or with the OS. -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium \bold{From}: "Marleni Pineda" \bold{Date}: Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:12:48 CST \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Re: UNSUBSCRIBE Please unsubscribe me from the mailing list \ e-mail Thanks Marleni P. \bold{Date}: Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:19:18 PST \bold{From}: larry@dss.ca.gov (Larry Tjoelker) \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: scheduling package Does anybody know of a scheduling package for andrew? thanks, Larry Tjoelker larry@dss.ca.gov (916)322-2439 California Department of Social Services \bold{Date}: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 11:03:17 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Pat_Barron@transarc.com \bold{To}: Info-Andrew \bold{Subject}: AMS <---> POP ? Has anyone written a message server client that uses POP as it's "user interface"? I'm trying to be able to have POP users retrieve mail from their AMS Mailboxes, and to send mail via AMDS. --Pat. \bold{Date}: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 10:03:35 -0800 \bold{To}: Pat_Barron@transarc.com, Info-Andrew \bold{From}: EricBlossom@PostOffice.EPRI.Com (Eric Blossom) \bold{Subject}: Re: AMS <---> POP ? I retrieve mail f r o m an AIX box t o my AMS mailbox using POP. The readme shows how to do this. Mail (on my Linux box) t o AMS comes first into the unix mailbox. Can't you use popper on the machine and intercept the mail before it gets into Andrew? Most POP clients use SMTP to send the mail and certainly it can end up being read by AMS. Or have I got this wrong? Does AMS bypass /var/spool/mail/user in some cases? Anyway, if you are trying to use AMS on a machine that only occasionally connects (via dialup), and you want to receive your mail via POP, then I may be able to help. If your users are using something like Eudora as their POP client, this I don't know about, but you make me curious. One thing I noticed is that when I sent a message from AMS encoded as MIME, Eudora (which is MIME capable) does not recognize it as a MIME message. The MIME-Version: header is not there. \ At 11:03 AM 2/15/95 -0500, Pat_Barron@transarc.com wrote: >Has anyone written a message server client that uses POP as it's "user >interface"? I'm trying to be able to have POP users retrieve mail >from their AMS Mailboxes, and to send mail via AMDS. > >--Pat. Eric Blossom 415 855-2270 EricBlossom@EPRI.Com Electric Power Research Institute, Palo Alto, CA \bold{Date}: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:24:23 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Bill Cattey \bold{To}: Info-Andrew , Pat_Barron@transarc.com \bold{Subject}: Re: AMS <---> POP ? Yes. There are two tools: eatmail by Nathaniel Borenstein that alleges to do this (included in the contrib subdirectory of the AUIS distribution.) getmail by me, which I have used for the past 6 years and never bothered to whip into shape for public distribution. (It presumes you are using Athena Hesiod to find your POP servers, and that your servers are using Kerberized POP.) It was cloned off the movemail program that comes with the GNU Emacs distribution. The way to write one for yourself is to have some little program that fetches the mail messages from the POP server and places them, one file per message in the person's MAILBOX dir. To configure Messages to get the mail this way, you add the following to your preferences file: PersonalMailCollectionCommand: getmail po:$\{USER\} $\{HOME\}/Mailbox/ Actually, this is the line for using getmail, and it passes in the Athena post office pointer, so your actual mileage may vary. The idea is that you set the PersonalMailCollectionCommand and it runs before Messages looks for the mail. Works quite well. -wdc \bold{Date}: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 15:18:47 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Pat_Barron@transarc.com \bold{To}: Info-Andrew , EricBlossom@cpc.epri.com (Eric Blossom) \bold{Subject}: Re: AMS <---> POP ? EricBlossom@PostOffice.EPRI.Com (Eric Blossom) writes: > I retrieve mail f r o m an AIX box t o my AMS mailbox using POP. > The readme shows how to do this. Mail (on my Linux box) t o AMS > comes first into the unix mailbox. Can't you use popper on the machine > and intercept the mail before it gets into Andrew? Most POP clients > use SMTP to send the mail and certainly it can end up being read by > AMS. Or have I got this wrong? Does AMS bypass var/spool/mail/user in > some cases? Actually, what's going on is that I am using AMS with AMDS (and AFS support compiled in), so there is no var/spool/mail file. What I want is a POP server that understands how to pull mail out of a particular user's Mailbox directory, and suck it over to the PC (or whatever). I have users who want to use Eudora, but since I'm using AMDS I have not been able to provide any reasonable kind of POP service. These folks, by and large, don't want to use the Andrew client programs, so I am not worried about their PC mail program and their AMS folders getting out of sync, but I don't want to have to set up a separate delivery system just for them. I'd forgotten that POP doesn't have its own delivery protocol; SMTP should work fine. --Pat. \bold{Date}: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:33:20 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com \bold{To}: Info-Andrew , Pat_Barron@transarc.com \bold{Subject}: Re: AMS <---> POP ? Sounds like such users could have their mail forwarded (via SMTP) into another machine that isn't an AMDS server, but is simply a vanilla SMTP/POP server. Craig \bold{Date}: 17 Feb 95 17:34:31+0000 \bold{From}: "bouchare@lannion.cnet.fr" \bold{To}: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: info about andrew release \bold{cc}: bouchare@lannion.cnet.fr Is there a new release of Andrew ( after 6.3.x) or is Andrew closed ? thanks \bold{Date}: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:58:50 -0600 (CST) \bold{From}: Robert Kemmetmueller \bold{To}: Info-Andrew \bold{Subject}: PostScript print <> formatnote? \excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 2-Dec-94 Andrew Consortium Newsletter Ann Marie Zanger@andrew. (28929+11)} \quotation{\bold{Progress on Printing} The new PostScript printing system now prints all the standard AUIS objects (text, figure, table, raster) as well as handling insets. Soon it will also be able to handle special text features such as table of contents, index, tags and references, widow/orphan control, and full-page text layout. } We have a large (nay, vast) number of datastream documents that use the **formatnote** style to define headers and footers with embedded troff commands. These need to get printed correctly, but falling back to the crusty old troff print mechanism is \italic{_hardly_} an optimal solution. Are there any plans for a tool to convert **formatnote**-styled strings containing recognizable header/footer stuff into \bold{\italic{header}} insets? Seems like a good job for a ness script, (\smaller{if ness weren't \italic{broken} in the latest version...}) I'd imagine others will be having this same problem, so I'm hesitant about rolling our own local tool... \center{ \h{\f{R\e{o\d{b\c{er\b{t K\a{emme}tmu}el}l}e}r }\g{rskm@rchland 3-4968 }}} \bold{Date}: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 08:16:00 -0800 \bold{To}: Info-Andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{From}: EricBlossom@PostOffice.EPRI.Com (Eric Blossom) \bold{Subject}: Configuring Messages When I send internet mail from Messages on my Linux machine, my return address is of the form user@domain rather than user@machine.domain. I know I can set my Reply-To: header on each message. Is there a way to set messages up so that it automatically fills in a Reply-To header? Looking in the log I find that messages is using sendmail. Is there a way to coax it into using smail instead? Eric Blossom 415 855-2270 EricBlossom@EPRI.Com Electric Power Research Institute, Palo Alto, CA \bold{Date}: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 13:48:26 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Dick Orgass \bold{To}: EricBlossom@cpc.epri.com (Eric Blossom) \bold{Subject}: Re: Configuring Messages \bold{CC}: Info-Andrew Eric, The problem is in the smail configuration file. I've had the same problem with GNUS in x-emacs. I'll try to remember to check the details at home this evening and get back to you with additional details. Dick \bold{Date}: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 15:21:53 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Craig_Everhart@transarc.com \bold{To}: Info-Andrew , EricBlossom@cpc.epri.com (Eric Blossom) \bold{Subject}: Re: Configuring Messages Don't set a Reply-To: header. (Don't get smail to fill it in for you, either.) Get Messages to fill in the From: header correctly using the options in /AndrewSetup (/etc/AndrewSetup, ...). Check the $ANDREWDIR/help/setup.help file for some instructions on this. Looking ahead, you probably want to set ThisDomain to be whatever your fully-qualified host name is. I thought that that was the default (or the result from gethostname(2)), but maybe I'm wrong. Or maybe you're running a version of Messages compiled with AFS-style defaults, so that it's using your AFS cell name. The AndrewSetup file is also how you tell Messages what program to run when you want to send mail from it. /usr/lib/sendmail is just the default. Craig \bold{Date}: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:50:19 -0800 (PST) \bold{From}: Eric Blossom \bold{To}: Info-Andrew@andrew.cmu.edu \bold{Subject}: Re: Configuration Thanks to Terry Gliedt, Craig Everhart, and Dick Orgass. My "From:" line looks much better. This machine is usually off-line. I connect occasionally via SLIP. I pick up my mail using POP. My PO Box is EricBlossom@PostOffice.epri.com. So I put that in my Reply-To header. To do so, I need to hit ^O and type in "Reply-To" and then type in my return address each time I send mail. I still haven't figured out how to get Messages to do it for me. Eric Blossom EricBlossom@epri.com 415 855-2270 \bold{Date}: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 16:42:48 -0500 (EST) \bold{From}: Robert Andrew Ryan \bold{To}: Info-Andrew , Eric Blossom \bold{Subject}: Re: Configuration Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 24-Feb-95 Re: Configuration Eric Blossom@herman.epri (495) > So I put that in my Reply-To header. To > do so, I need to hit ^O and type in "Reply-To" and then type in my > return address each time I send mail. I still haven't figured out how to > get Messages to do it for me. You can automate the reply-to header insertion down to one keystroke. \ (Though I use two in the example below.) For example: addkey sendmessage-add-header ^Xr sendmessage sendmessage inherit "reply-to: robr@cmu.edu" I'm not sure if AMS programs can be convinced to use just the domain name for the reply-to and from headers without switching to the Andrew Message Delivery System. Another option though would be to write a shell script wrapper for sendmail, and set the AndrewSetup option OldSendmailProgram to reference the script. -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium \bold{Date}: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 15:46:39 -0500 \bold{From}: telematrix.com@telematrix.com \bold{Subject}: unsubscribe \bold{To}: info-Andrew@Andrew.cmu.edu unsubscribe Mark Endelman, Director of Marketing Phone: (1) 914-353-0311 Fax (1) 914-353-0335 \enddata{text,560831608}