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Hi, 
I'm trying to create a Postscript output file from an object created
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ezprint -t $FILENAME | eqn -Tpsc | ditroff -Tpsc | psdit > $OUTFILE 

I get the following error message: 
Malloc arena corruption discovered   at - fr 
Anyone out there have an idea why this is happening and perhaps a patch? 
TIA. 

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If you have a /usr/andrew/lib/global.prf file, ``chmod -w global.prf''
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Hello, 
I have been using Andrew for some time and have been trying ADEW and
multimedia. 
Up until now, I haven't experimented with color, though. 
My question is: To what extent does Andrew support color ? 
1. Can I create multi-color buttons and icons ? 2. Can I create
multi-colored text, the same way different fonts are selected ? 3. Are
there plans to make FAD and ZIP support color ? 
Thank you in advance 
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Andrew & OpenWindows 3.0 Cc: Darryl Rouse <rouse@thumper.bellcore.com>, 
       Stan Moyer <stanm@thumper.bellcore.com> 
We have a couple of users here who run Andrew under OpenWindows.
Recently, they upgraded from OW 2.1 to OW 3.0.  At this point, Andrew
(the R5 release) ceases to be able to work -- windows get opened, but
are closed almost immediately with a core dump. 
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Takats) Message-Id: <9202071449.AA07555@zztop.noname> Subject: Porting
environment for ATK--> Motif Apparently-To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 

Can anyone recommend an O-O development environment to use for porting
an ATK developed multi-media application to Motif?  (someone a while ago
mentioned XView -- could someone please send me a pointer to that as
well... thanks!) Also, recommendations for graphical interface editors
are welcome.  
Thanks in advance; please respond via email (I don't get the newsgroup). 
Andy Takats Intecs Sistemi S.p.A. Roma, ITALY tel. +39-6-4115160 ext 387
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1992 17:28:00 +0100 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.1 12/20/90) To:
info-andrew@ANDREW.CMU.EDU Subject: Andrew and HP-UX.8.0 
Hello there. I have get the andrew 5.0.0 The README says that the hpux
8.0 will be supported with the next patch. Where I can get this patch ?
I have tried at export.lcs.mit.edu in the directory
contrib/R4fixes/andrew but the get command returned me an error :
"Permission denied". Thank you very much in advance. 
--- Marco Negri				E-Mail : marco@ghost.dsi.unimi.it Computer Science
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communicable disease! 
Has anyone else seen the following problem with messages? 
I have a lot of folders into which incoming mail is placed automatically
by a flames program.  Sometimes a folder will get 'sick'.  When new mail
is placed into it, 'messages' knows about it, but it will always
position me at the first message in the folder, even though all the
previous (hundreds) of messages have been read.  Messages knows this
too, because it shows check marks, rather than the little unopened
envelope before each message. 
Sometimes a 'cui reconstruct' command seems to fix a folder for a while,
sometimes it has no effect.   This disease seems to spread, as more of
my folders are catching it.  Help! 
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om-beacon.mit.edu  (Wolfgang Ziegler) Organization: GMD, St. Augustin,
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After one and a half day I finished building andrew more or less.
Unfortunately there remain still 2 errors to fix:  
  1)  mkfontdir doesnt seem to like the generated .pcf font-files   2) 
the creation of the helpindex fails, because the following line in the  
    Makefile demands a pgm or script with a non-existant path on my
local       machine:      
/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/hm99/index/installandyindex."sun4_41" $(DESTDIR
      (I couldnt find something like installandyindex... or similar
among the       distributed and generated files) 
The first error seems not to affect the possibility of starting
applications, while the second prevents me - as a novice - using andrew. 
When browsing through this newsgroup I read about patches which could
help completing the installation. I would appreciate if someone could
send me these patches or give me some other hints to succeed (email:
ziegler@gmdzi.gmd.de). 
I built andrew on a sun4 with os 4.1.1. 
Thanks in advace,  Wolfgang Ziegler -- Wolfgang Ziegler    
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I am having trouble with the messages tool. It is not correctly parsing
incoming mail. Many messages are smashed together into one large mail
message. There is a pattern:  all the messages that are not treated
seperately have a From line similar to: 
From andrew.cmu.edu!@po2.andrew.cmu.edu:atkbb+Bad-Addresses Sat Feb  8
04:10:19 1992 Return-Path:
<andrew.cmu.edu!@po2.andrew.cmu.edu:atkbb+Bad-Addresses> 
This seems to be confusing messages. 
SunOS 4.1.1 MIT X11 R5 Andrew toolkit 5.0.0 
Help please! 
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Stephen Williams writes: > Return-Path:
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Perhaps a better question would be why is AMS putting out this
(deprecated) form of address in the first place?  It doesn't add any
information not already present in the Received: headers, and Host
Requirements says that hosts SHOULD NOT (I think that's their wording)
emit source-routed addresses, and other hosts MAY completely ignore
source-routing. 
>>>From @po5.andrew.cmu.edu:atkbb+Bad-Addresses@andrew.cmu.edu Tue Feb
11 07:38:08 1992 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is unnecessary and redundant. 
-GAWollman 
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comp.soft-sys.andrew Subject: Core dumped when building andrew software
- HELP! Message-ID: <1992Feb12.113454.6313@cc.ic.ac.uk> Date: 12 Feb 92
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I'm tring to build andrew software ( ATK, AMS) from MIT's X11, Release 4
tape on a SUN4 IPC, with SunOs 4.1.1 and AFS file system. 
I got a "Segmentation Fault(core dumped)" after server hours compiling,
What I did is 1. Edit config/site.mrc with the contents:    XUTILDIR =
/usr/bin/X11    AFSBASEDIR = /usr/afsws    RESOLVLIB =
/usr/lib/libresolv.a 
2. Edit confi/site.h with the contents:    /* Empty site.h file.  Use
this file to hold all */    /* your site's changes to allsys.h and
system.h. */    #undef DEFAULT_ANDREWDIR_ENV    #undef ANDREW_MALLOC_ENV
   #undef DITROFF_ENV    #undef MK_TEXT_EXT    #define
DEFAULT_ANDREWDIR_ENV /afs/cc.ic.ac.uk/usr/iccc/sf/andrew    #define
MK_BASIC_UTILS       1    #define MK_HELP         1    #define
MK_EXAMPLES 1    #define NDBM_ENV 1    #define GETDOMAIN_ENV 1    3.
imake imake  -I.  -I./config  -Timake.tmpl  -s Makefile  -DTOPDIR=. 4.
make World 

 the error messages are: 

 (ignore many dofix: Relocatable symbol value messages like followings ) 

 dofix:  Relocatable symbol value (_EliFGetSexp = 299256, type 4) 
dofix:  Relocatable symbol value (_MS_PrefetchMessage = 139904, type 4) 
dofix:  Relocatable symbol value (_MS_PrefetchMessage = 139904, type 4) 
dofix:  Relocatable symbol value (_eliyysptr = 588320, type 6)  doload: 
Errors while processing  Segmentation fault (core dumped)  *** Error
code 11  make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `amsn.do'  Current
working directory 
/afs/cc.ic.ac.uk/usr/iccc/sf/andrew_src/andrew/atkams/messages/lib  ***
Error code 1  make: Fatal error: Command failed for target
`dependInstall'  Current working directory 
/afs/cc.ic.ac.uk/usr/iccc/sf/andrew_src/andrew/atkams/messages/lib  ***
Error code 1  make: Fatal error: Command failed for target
`dependInstall'  Current working directory 
/afs/cc.ic.ac.uk/usr/iccc/sf/andrew_src/andrew/atkams/messages  ***
Error code 1  make: Fatal error: Command failed for target
`dependInstall'  Current working directory 
/afs/cc.ic.ac.uk/usr/iccc/sf/andrew_src/andrew/atkams  *** Error code 1 
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall'  Current
working directory  /afs/cc.ic.ac.uk/usr/iccc/sf/andrew_src/andrew  ***
Error code 1  make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World' 
the programm caused core dumped seems to be "doindex" which is a program
that indexes dynamic objects.  it failed to process amsn.do 
Can anyone tell me what is wrong?   Thanks a for any help in advance. 
Susan Feng 
Imperial College --
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comp.soft-sys.andrew Subject: messages folders catch strange
communicable disease! Message-ID: <UdZlT1X02mCP1Ov193@gargoyle> Date: 11
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Has anyone else seen the following problem with messages? 
I have a lot of folders into which incoming mail is placed automatically
by a flames program.  Sometimes a folder will get 'sick'.  When new mail
is placed into it, 'messages' knows about it, but it will always
position me at the first message in the folder, even though all the
previous (hundreds) of messages have been read.  Messages knows this
too, because it shows check marks, rather than the little unopened
envelope before each message. 
Sometimes a 'cui reconstruct' command seems to fix a folder for a while,
sometimes it has no effect.   This disease seems to spread, as more of
my folders are catching it.  Help! 
Thanks, 	Bill Schell 	AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ 	bill@allegra.att.com 


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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 6-Feb-92 color printing? Bill
Janssen@parc.xerox. (174+0) 
> What's the right way to enable color printing?  I notice that >
atk/text/txttroff.c has #ifdefs for COLORPRINTINGWORKS, but I don't see
> where to set it in config/site.h. 
> Bill 
The problem is that the  COLORPRINTINGWORKS code uses the Ca and Cz
macros which are not implemented in tmac.atk.  The further problem is
that to work properly these macros must insert postScript code at an
arbitrary point in troff output.  Some troffs have not had a good
mechanism to do this interspersal and the method used for rasters is too
buggy for printing color text.  
(If someone knows a general solution for interspersing postScript in
troff output, I'd be delighted to hear of it.) 
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We have implemented an automount map called /tilde.  While "cleaning" up
my preferences to accomodate R5 I changed my mspath to
/tilde/macdonal/.MESSAGES from ~/.MESSAGES.  Now, we haven't finished
cleaning up our passwd database so for me ~ == /net/ra/ra/macdonal
rather than /tilde/macdonal.  
The next time I fired up messages it proceded to write a new .AMS.prof
using /tilde/macdonal/.MESSAGES/mail for mail.  Unfortunately,
MS_FindMailbox expands ~/Mailbox, CUI_CheckMailboxes wants
.MESSAGES/mail and Mailbox to be in the same directory, and as far as
strncmp() is concerned /net/ra/ra/macdonal != /tilde/macdonal. 
So, if you run into users who complain "Read Mail doesn't do anything!"
Take a look at where their .AMS.prof thinks mail is vs. where ~/Mailbox
is. 
CUI_CheckMailboxes will dutifully complain if MS_FindMailbox loses, but
won't for this path conflict.  Any ideas why not? 
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I have been having difficulty getting andrew to run on a DEC VT-1200
X-Terminal. I would like to know what hardware (x-terminal, workstation,
...) people have gotten andrew to run on successfully. 
Please respond by e-mail. If there is interest, I will post a summary to
the net. 
-- Eric M. Boehm boehme@unvax.Union.EDU BOEHME@UNION.BITNET
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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 7-Feb-92 Porting environment
for ATK.. Andrew Takats@zztop.roma (491) 
> Can anyone recommend an O-O development environment to use for porting
> an ATK developed multi-media application to Motif? 
First, of course,  is to point out that Andrew has adopted much of the
Motif look and feel.  
But I take your note to mean you want to reimplement an application
using the Motif library and want to avoid the pure C environment of
Motif. 
There are three major contenders for object oriented programming in
Unix: C++, Modula-3, and Objective C.  Many sites are adopting C++,
despite the advantages of Modula-3.  Objective C has not been gaining
ground despite its use on Next systems.  I'm not aware of Motif
libraries for any of these, but I suspect they exist.  
Among the advantages of Modula-3 is automatic storage management (via
garbage collection), a feature capable of saving up to 25% of programmer
time on sizeable O-O projects. 
At this writing a group (other than the Consortium) is building a layer
on top of ATK so ATK objects can be accessed from Modula-3.  Thus new
code could be written in Modula-3 while utilizing the ATK core written
in C.  The ATK Consortium hopes to be able to make this code available
later this year.  (Consortium members will get it earlier than
non-members.) 
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building atk 
dear susan 
today i tried to install andrew on Ultrix4.1a (Decstation 500/200) and
X11R5. After a long time i got this error: 
cc -Dvoid=int -G 0 -c  -O
-I.-I/urzsoft/ultrix4/lib/andrew/include/atk-I/urzs 
oft/ultrix4/lib/andrew/include -I/urzsoft/ultrix4/lib/X11R5/include
"-Wl,-D,1000 000"  tscript.c ccom: Error: tscript.c, line 1281: t
undefined         if(ioctl (tp->SubChannel,       (int)( 
(int)0x80000000	|((sizeof(int)& 0x7f            )<<16)|(t<<8)|  (int)( 
(int)0x80000000 |((sizeof(int)&0x7f         )<<16)|('t'<<8)| 105)  
&0xff), &ON) == -1) -----------------^ *** Error code 1 
Stop. *** Error code 1 
Stop. *** Error code 1 
Stop. *** Error code 1 
Stop. *** Error code 1 
Stop. 

Really, i don't know how should i fix this problem. Please, please send
me some suggestions for an workaround or an fix. Thanks in advance
Charly
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I am still in the process of installing ATK version 5.0.0 But I got to
try out some of the binaries. The problem is I have a mono Sun monitor.
The ATK ends up looking funny and unreabable where is tries to use color
and the 3D shapes. But it looks great on a color monitor which
unfortunately is not what I going to display it on. Any suggestions ? 
I am compiling it on Sparcstation 1 with SunOS 4.1.1 
thanks deeptendu 
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Here at MIT we compile Andrew for multiple hardware platforms. I work
pretty hard to keep things tuned so when we add a new hardware platform
we don' consume space with redundant copies of doc files, etc. When the
RS/6000 port came on-line, I hacked makedo.csh so that the .do files
would be about the same size as those on the other platforms. Before my
change, the .do files contained all the symbols, and were the
traditional size of the .dog files. 
Well look at these numbers reported by du: 
rt/dlib/atk: 7299 rt/bin: 5676 vax/dlib/atk: 4914 vax/bin: 3714
rsaix/dlib/atk: 8961 rsaix/bin: 5828 sparcsun/dlib/atk: 26562
sparcsun/bin: 4207 
All of these numbers make sense except for the sparcsun/dlib/atk size.
(The RISC binaries are a little bigger, except where shared libraries
render them smaller again.) 
My first idea was to, as with the RS/6000, strip the .do files. Alas,
Sun strip is mondo stupid copared to AIX strip which has a PHD in symbol
tables from Austin Texas. 
AIX strip is smart enough to reduce the symbol table size without
destroying the data required to perform run-time loading. 
Sun stripped .do files provide me with the helpful Core Dump of EZ when
run-time loaded. 
One possibility is for me to compile the Sun platform without -g. I am
loathe to do this.  I generally keep around the .dog files and use them
for debugging.  I distribut the .do files to campus, and the
pedagogically correct way to do this all is for there to be separate
.dog files. 
Does anybody know how to tell SunOS to reduce the size of the symbol
table without throwing out the baby with the bathwater? 
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Does anyone know what I would have to do to implement the Table of
Contents (active) into the Andrew help ? 
Any HELP will be very appreciated. 
Thanks 

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I was compiling Andrew 5.0.0 on a SparcStation with SunOS 4.1.1 I ran
into the following problem with mkfontdir ----------------------------- 
touch install.time touch install.doc building (dependInstall)
(/tmp_mnt/home/frencha1/dips3/andrew/xmkfontd) make
DESTDIR=/home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK install touch install.time touch
install.doc rm -f /home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK/X11fonts/fonts.alias
/usr/bin/X11/mkfontdir /home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK/X11fonts
/usr/bin/X11/mkfontdir: failed to create directory in
/home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK/X11fonts *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error:
Command failed for target `install' Current working directory
/tmp_mnt/home/frencha1/dips3/andrew/xmkfontd *** Error code 1 make:
Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working
directory /tmp_mnt/home/frencha1/dips3/andrew/xmkfontd *** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current
working directory /tmp_mnt/home/frencha1/dips3/andrew *** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World'
----------------------------- 
The following are some of the font files (linked) in the directory
/home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK/X11fonts. I am not familiar with the workings
of mkfontdi. I tried running mkfontdir by hand in this directory. It
gave the same error message about not being able to create
directories..??? 
------------------------------ amenu12.pcf@ andyof12.pcf@ apcrsr20.pcf@
apofic20.pcf@ aptcsr20.pcf@ apticn20.pcf@ bits1.pcf@ blshft12.pcf@ ....
------------------------------ 
Any help will be most appreciated 
thanks deeptendu -- ------ "Like a harsh neon streaking  through the
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Well I have been trying to make the scroll bars look right on the
monochrome monitor. There seem to be so many preferences related to
scrollbar and I just cannot seem to get the right combination of black &
white & foreground and background! 
Will please anybody tell me what are ALL the various components of the
scrollbars and which options affect which parts. I have looked at the
scroll.help file. It did not help. 
There is matte, there is button, there is elevator, there is dot, the
bar itself, scroll etc..etc...And each of them have shadow,
foreground,background... I tried MimicOld option that gave variable
results. Everytime I start the app the bars look different..Boy! 
I need somebody to exactly describe to me what is what and which options
should I set to make it look like the most simple scrollbar (a white
slider on a grey bar, like xterms under twm) 
And for ITC people. It would be nice if you include a explanatory
diagram of scrollbar in your scroll.help file.. 
I have been struggling with this problem so long that it is getting to me.. 
If I do not get help I have to give up on ATK I guess. 
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Hello, 
I tried using the eroff package release 3.0.7A on SCO 3.2.2. 
I used : troff -Tps file | eps - | lp 
I didn't get any error messages, but the resulting file was empty of text. 
My question: 
1. Any more clues on where to look for the bug ? 
2. Since I don't intend to buy another package, can I use groff instead ? 
Thank you 
Michael Kedem University of Ottawa kedem@aix1.uottawa.ca
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Excerpts from ext.andrew: 12-Feb-92 Re: color printing? Fred
Hansen@andrew.cmu.e (785+0) 
> (If someone knows a general solution for interspersing postScript in >
troff output, I'd be delighted to hear of it.) 
I'd suggest focusing on a good way to do it for just GROFF and DWB
ditroff, myself, rather than try to support it for arbitary broken
troffs. 
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building atk 
sorry, i write again to you, because reply doesn't work to Gary 
hello Gary 
thanks for your reply. the operating system is Ultrix 4.1a, and my
machine is a 5000/200 Decstation, therefore i changed the
.../andrew/config/platform.tmpl 
> #if (defined(mips) && defined(ultrix)) > #include <pmax_41/system.mcr>
> #define MacroIncludeFile pmax_41/system.mcr > #endif /* mips && ultrix
*/ 
and therefore the Variable  sys_pmax_ul4 is not defined but sys_pmax_41. 
Please help me with more Information! Was it an error to change platform.tmp ? 
thanks in advance charly
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Just an addenda to my previous plea for help: 
The same problems occur also under regular X11R5.  What am I doing wrong? 
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I'm having a few problems with fonts and scrollbars under Andrew rel.
5.0.   I've just put up release 5.0 under Openwindows 3.0.  I had Andrew
PL10 running before under Openwindows 3.0, so I'm just fighting the
differences between PL10 and 5.0 (and maybe X11R4 to X11R5 changes). 
First, my fonts are a bit screwed up.  I have /usr/andrew/xnwsfnts in my
fontpath, so my cursors are right,  but my Menus and Menubars have a
tiny fixed width font in them and changing  the requisite font
preferences doesn't help.  Also, the variable width fonts in messages,
help, etc. all have a wide interline spacing that I don't like. 
Second, the new scrollbars look fine on my color display, but none too
good on my monocrome display.  Setting *.MimicOldScrollbar: TRUE doesn't
help.  
I've included a raster picture that shows all of these problems below.
It's the top of this sendmessage window. 
Has anyone out there solved these problems already?  
Thanks, 	Bill Schell 	bill@allegra.att.com 	AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill,
NJ [An Andrew ToolKit view (a raster image) was included here, but could
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Moving from our old (pl7) ATK to the new 5.0.0 release, we have more
than once been fouled up by messages.  It gets into a state where
neither the new or old messages can file new messages from the ~/Mailbox
file into ~/.MESSAGES/mail (or, indeed, ~/.MESSAGES/<anything>).  It
seems to be caused by having an instance of the old pl7 messages running
at the same time as you start the new 5.0.0 messages.  A fix (which I
don't understand) seems to be to use cui to "rebuild ~/.MESSAGES". 
Does anyone have any notion of what's going on here, and how we could
avoid it? 
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When we try to run a tool from ATK 5.0.0 on MacX 1.1, it crashes MacX.
Anyone have any ideas why? 
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I usually print ez documents (without any raster, etc..) by using the
following command. 
ezprint -t filename|troff -Tpsc -t|lpr -t - 
and it works.. 
Now I am trying to do printing from the menus of ez, help, etc.. 
So I put the following lines in my ~/.preferences file: 
formatcommand: ezprint -t /tmp/%s.n|troff -Tpsc -t| printcommand: lpr -t - 
The output has the desired bodyfont (which I specified to be andy10).
But the troff commands do not seem to get processed. They come out
printed along with the rest of the text !!! 
any suggestion ? 
thanks deeptendu 
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Please excuse me if this has been covered before. I'm building Andrew
for the first time and just subscribed to this group. As I understand
it, I'm allowed one stupid question due to ignorance, right? :-) 
I'm having a problem building 5.0.0 on a Sun 4 running 4.1.1 SunOS.
Doindex always exits with the message "...dlopen: stub interception
failed". For example while doing a "make dependInstall" in
overhead/class/testing. I get the following output: 
sandy{edc}229: make dependInstall ../../.././config/depend.csh
/usr/local/bin/makedepend ../pp/class "-I. -I../lib -I../machdep/machine
-I. -I/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/include/atk
-I/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/include -I/usr/local/include/X11" " "
`testobj.ih' is up to date. `testobj2.ih' is up to date. make
DESTDIR=/cactus/home2/edc/andrew install rm -f testobj.o cc -pic -c  -O
-I. -I../lib -I../machdep/machine -I.
-I/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/include/atk
-I/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/include -I/usr/local/include/X11   testobj.c
mv testobj.o shared/testobj.o cc -c  -O -I. -I../lib
-I../machdep/machine -I. -I/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/include/atk
-I/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/include -I/usr/local/include/X11   testobj.c
/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/bin/makedo -g -b ../cmd -d
/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/lib -s -o testobj.do testobj.o
/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/bin/doindex testobj.do doindex: indexing
testobj.do ...dlopen: stub interception failed *** Abort - core dumped
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `testobj.do' Current
working directory /cactus/home2/edc/src/andrew/overhead/class/testing
*** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target
`dependInstall' 

Tracing doindex doesn't help me much either: 
open ("/usr/lib/ld.so", 0, 040630) = 3 read (3, "".., 32) = 32 mmap (0,
40960, 0x5, 0x80000002, 3, 0) = 0xf77e0000 mmap (0xf77e8000, 8192, 0x7,
0x80000012, 3, 32768) = 0xf77e8000 open ("/dev/zero", 0, 07) = 4
getrlimit (3, 0xf7fff900) = 0 mmap (0xf7800000, 8192, 0x3, 0x80000012,
4, 0) = 0xf7800000 close (3) = 0 open
("/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/lib/lib".., 0, 015133400000) = 3 read (3,
"".., 32) = 32 mmap (0, 32780, 0x5, 0x80000002, 3, 0) = 0xf77c0000 mmap
(0xf77c6000, 8192, 0x7, 0x80000012, 3, 24576) = 0xf77c6000 close (3) = 0
getuid () = 446 getgid () = 10 open ("/etc/ld.so.cache", 0, 05000100021)
= 3 fstat (3, 0xf7fff7a0) = 0 mmap (0, 4096, 0x1, 0x80000001, 3, 0) =
0xf77a0000 close (3) = 0 open ("/usr/local/oms/lib", 0, 01010525) = 3
fstat (3, 0xf7fff7a0) = 0 mmap (0xf7802000, 8192, 0x3, 0x80000012, 4, 0)
= 0xf7802000 getdents (3, 0xf7800178, 8192) = 148 getdents (3,
0xf7800178, 8192) = 0 close (3) = 0 open ("/lib", 0, 022) = 3 getdents
(3, 0xf7800178, 8192) = 3528 getdents (3, 0xf7800178, 8192) = 0 close
(3) = 0 open ("/usr/local/lib", 0, 04) = 3 getdents (3, 0xf7800178,
8192) = 1268 getdents (3, 0xf7800178, 8192) = 0 close (3) = 0 open
("/usr/openwin/lib", 0, 016) = 3 getdents (3, 0xf7800178, 8192) = 1432
mmap (0xf7804000, 8192, 0x3, 0x80000012, 4, 0) = 0xf7804000 getdents (3,
0xf7800178, 8192) = 0 close (3) = 0 open
("/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/lib", 0, 020) = 3 getdents (3, 0xf7800178,
8192) = 544 getdents (3, 0xf7800178, 8192) = 0 close (3) = 0 open
("/cactus/home2/edc/andrew/lib/lib".., 0, 030710) = 3 read (3, "".., 32)
= 32 mmap (0, 32780, 0x5, 0x80000002, 3, 0) = 0xf7780000 mmap
(0xf7786000, 8192, 0x7, 0x80000012, 3, 24576) = 0xf7786000 close (3) = 0
open ("/lib/libdl.so.1.0", 0, 030730) = 3 read (3, "".., 32) = 32 mmap
(0, 16396, 0x5, 0x80000002, 3, 0) = 0xf7760000 mmap (0xf7762000, 8192,
0x7, 0x80000012, 3, 8192) = 0xf7762000 close (3) = 0 open
("/lib/libc.so.1.6", 0, 030750) = 3 read (3, "".., 32) = 32 mmap (0,
458764, 0x5, 0x80000002, 3, 0) = 0xf76d0000 mmap (0xf773c000, 16384,
0x7, 0x80000012, 3, 442368) = 0xf773c000 close (3) = 0 close (4) = 0
open ("/dev/zero", 02, 036734520110) = 3 dup (3) = 4 close (3) = 0
getpagesize () = 4096 brk (0x7218) = 0 brk (0x8218) = 0 open
("testobj.do", 0, 0) = 3 ioctl (1, 0x40125401, 0xf7ffe9a4) = 0 write (1,
"doindex: indexing testobj.do ...", 32) = 32 write (2, "dlopen: stub
interception failed".., 33) = 33 sigblock (0x20) = 0 sigvec (6,
0xf7fff3ac, 0xf7fff3a0) = 0 sigvec (6, 0xf7fff334, 0) = 0 sigsetmask (0)
= 0x20 close (0) = 0 close (1) = 0 close (2) = 0 getpid () = 22213 kill
(22213, 6) = 0 - SIGIOT (6) 
Any ideas????? I'm poking around here sort of lost. I'm not really
familiar with Andrew at all to begin with and I'm not quite sure exactly
how this dynamic linking stuff is supposed to work either. 
Oh, bu the way, the core is over 8MB which strikes me as kinda wierd for
a small littel progream that doesn't malloc anything that looks liike ti
would be huge. 
Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated!!!!!! 
Thanks!!!!!! 
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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew Subject: Request Info about ATK
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   Is there some one who explain me about ATK consortium in detail ?   
I would like to know : 
 1) What is ATK consortium?  2) What is purpose?  3) WHo is member,
currently?  4) Who to Join it?  5) Is there plan to develop Audio Insets
? If yes who is going to do it?  6) Is there plan to develop Video
Insets ? If yes who is going to do it?  7) Is there plan to develop
Gray-Scale Image Insets ?        If yes who is going to do it. 
   I'm sorry for many questions. 
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Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1992 19:05:40 -0500 From: Gary Keim
<gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: We're Here 
I apologize for not responding to any of your posts for so long.
Basically, we somehow lost our feed (or something -- things weren't
being forwarded into my Mailbox like usual) and I just thought, "Hey,
everything must be OK.  No news, is good news."  So, I was busy working
away on the CD-ROM distribution without a clue.  How naive I can
sometimes be. 
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guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew Subject:
Re: problem with doindex in 5.0.0 Keywords: Andrew doindex Message-ID:
<11927@auspex-gw.auspex.com> Date: 25 Feb 92 00:20:17 GMT Article-I.D.:
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>I'm having a problem building 5.0.0 on a Sun 4 running 4.1.1 SunOS.
Doindex >always exits with the message "...dlopen: stub interception
failed". 
... 
>open ("/lib/libdl.so.1.0", 0, 030730) = 3 
Make *VERY* sure that *NONE* of the commands that link *ANY* programs
that use the "-ldl" library have "-L/lib" or any other weird "-L"
options; if they do, the system may find "libdl.so.1.0" in "/lib" rather
than in "/usr/lib", and if it does, it gets *VERY* confused.  (Don't ask
why.  Trust me.  You *DON'T* want to know how that stuff works, or why
it *ONLY* works if it finds "libdl.so.1.0" in "/usr/lib".  Really.) 
>Oh, bu the way, the core is over 8MB which strikes me as kinda wierd
for a >small littel progream that doesn't malloc anything that looks
liike ti would >be huge. 
Dynamically linked programs in SunOS 4.x produce very large core files,
although the files have a hole in them so they don't take up as much
disk space as they'd appear to (unless you copy them, in which case the
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ATK Cons.. Kaoru E. C. U. CA@eecs.u (480) 
>  7) Is there plan to develop Gray-Scale Image Insets ? >        If yes
who is going to do it. 

Yes.  I take responsibility for this project.  You will be able to have
color, and greyscale, images in your ATK documents (or anywhere else
insets are allowed) in the future.  A prototype implementation exists
but is not yet ready for prime time. 
Fred Hansen, the Consortium director, will answer your other questions. 
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I would also be interested in these issues, so it might be worth a
general post... 
"Kaoru ENDO    CIPIC UC.Davis, CA, U.S.A." writes:  >  >    Is there
some one who explain me about ATK consortium in detail ?  >    I would
like to know :  >  >  5) Is there plan to develop Audio Insets ? If yes
who is going to do it?  >  6) Is there plan to develop Video Insets ? If
yes who is going to do it?  >  7) Is there plan to develop Gray-Scale
Image Insets ?  >        If yes who is going to do it. 
These especialy! 
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>I'm having a problem building 5.0.0 on a Sun 4 running 4.1.1 SunOS.
Doindex >always exits with the message "...dlopen: stub interception
failed". 
... 
>open ("/lib/libdl.so.1.0", 0, 030730) = 3 
Make *VERY* sure that *NONE* of the commands that link *ANY* programs
that use the "-ldl" library have "-L/lib" or any other weird "-L"
options; if they do, the system may find "libdl.so.1.0" in "/lib" rather
than in "/usr/lib", and if it does, it gets *VERY* confused.  (Don't ask
why.  Trust me.  You *DON'T* want to know how that stuff works, or why
it *ONLY* works if it finds "libdl.so.1.0" in "/usr/lib".  Really.) 
>Oh, bu the way, the core is over 8MB which strikes me as kinda wierd
for a >small littel progream that doesn't malloc anything that looks
liike ti would >be huge. 
Dynamically linked programs in SunOS 4.x produce very large core files,
although the files have a hole in them so they don't take up as much
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I've solved the problem of the new Motif scrollbars appearing strangely
on my monochrome display.  Several people suggested that  the problem
might be caused by Foreground/Background color settings on the
monochrome display, but this wasn't the case.  I fixed the problem by
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>  7) Is there plan to develop Gray-Scale Image Insets ? >        If yes
who is going to do it. 

Yes.  I take responsibility for this project.  You will be able to have
color, and greyscale, images in your ATK documents (or anywhere else
insets are allowed) in the future.  A prototype implementation exists
but is not yet ready for prime time. 
Fred Hansen, the Consortium director, will answer your other questions. 
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Date: Fri, 28 Feb 1992 11:17:40 -0800 (PST) From: Lee Boswell
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mail 
Could someone please tell me how to insert text into a reply to a
message after excerpting  the body of the message, without it appearing
with the same italicized font ? This seems to work ok if there is a
blank line between paragraphs, but if you want to make a comment in the
middle of a paragraph and hit return a couple of times, the text that
you then insert is always italicized. This isn't too well described.
Does anyone know what I'm on about and have a solution please ? This has
been irritating me for a while ! 
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Anand Patwardhan <ap10+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > Ok, so here's the
situation. I am running messages from the ce.cmu.edu > cell (rs/6000
machines), and wish to access my andrew.cmu.edu mailbox > and message
folders. > If I set *.AMShome: andrew.cmu.edu, then the setup works.
However, if I > do messages.AMShome: andrew.cmu.edu, I get a machine
initialization > problem. The former case would be fine except that a
'finger ap10' when > I am on the ce machine, returns the WP, plan, mail
etc. info from the > andrew.cmu.edu cell, which is not what I want. Do I
have to stay with > *.AMShome? 
Not anymore.  You have led me to one of the more interesting bugs of my
career, and a fix for it is now checked into our source tree. Hopefully,
before long you will see a release of the fixed software. 
The symptom was that certain Messages preferences, including AMSHome,
PersonalMailCollectionCommand, and others, were not being found if they
appeared as "messages.AMSHome" in the preferences file.  (They worked
fine in the form "*.AMSHome".)  The fix involves four lines in two files
in andrew/atkams/messages/lib -- amsn.c and msgsa.c.  Here are the
context diffs: 
RCS file: RCS/amsn.c,v retrieving revision 1.9 retrieving revision 1.10
diff -bwc -r1.9 -r1.10 *** 1.9	1991/09/19 17:11:32 --- 1.10	1992/02/28
18:45:52 *************** *** 14,19 **** --- 14,21 ----   #include
<mailconf.h>   #include <cui.h>   + extern char ProgramName[];	/*
Icky-poo! */ +   extern char *CUI_MachineName, CUI_MailDomain[],
*CUI_Rock, CUI_VersionString[], *CUI_WhoIAm, *ap_Shorten(),
*DescribeProt(), *ams_genid();     extern long CUI_DeliveryType,
CUI_LastCallFinished, CUI_OnSameHost, CUI_SnapIsRunning,
CUI_UseAmsDelivery, CUI_UseNameSep, mserrcode; *************** ***
160,165 **** --- 162,168 ----       message_DisplayString(NULL, 10,
"Initializing Internal Message Server...");       im_ForceUpdate();     
 if (!TimerFunction) TimerFunction = TimerInit; +    
strcpy(ProgramName, im_GetProgramName());      
return(CUI_Initialize(TimerFunction, rock));   }  
=================================================================== RCS
file: RCS/msgsa.c,v retrieving revision 2.15 retrieving revision 2.16
diff -bwc -r2.15 -r2.16 *** 2.15	1991/09/12 16:48:51 --- 2.16	1992/02/28
18:45:52 *************** *** 208,214 ****       }      
m->RetainedArg[m->RetainedArgc] = NULL;      
m->AddHeaderList[HeadersToAdd] = NULL; !    
environ_SetProgramName(m->SendOnly ? "sendmessage" : "messages");      
messagesapp_SetName(m, m->SendOnly ? "sendmessage" : "messages");      
return(TRUE);   } --- 208,214 ----       }      
m->RetainedArg[m->RetainedArgc] = NULL;      
m->AddHeaderList[HeadersToAdd] = NULL; !    
im_SetProgramName(m->SendOnly ? "sendmessage" : "messages");      
messagesapp_SetName(m, m->SendOnly ? "sendmessage" : "messages");      
return(TRUE);   }
=================================================================== 
Here's a discussion of the bug, if you're interested: 
	The preferences-reading code is in libutil.a, in a function called
"getprofile" (which calls "GetConfig").  A global character buffer
called ProgramName is exported by libutil, but most people don't know
that. 	The environ ATK class is linked with libutil and has procedures
for setting and getting the program name, corresponding directly to the
ProgramName buffer in libutil.  ATK applications use the
environ_GetProfile* interface to the getprofile functions in libutil. 
So far, so good. 	The amsn class in Messages is also linked with
libutil, as well as with libcui and libmssrv.  Amsn calls
CUI_Initialize, which calls MS_Initialize, which is in libmssrv, which
calls getprofile, which is in libutil, and which requires the
ProgramName buffer.  So when amsn is linked, the .do file includes its
own copy of the ProgramName buffer. 	When Messages is running, (at
least) two of the classes that are loaded -- environ and amsn -- have
their own copies of the ProgramName buffer.  Messages calls
im_SetProgramName, which calls environ_SetProgramName, which fills in
environ's copy of ProgramName; and most of the preferences read during
Messages' execution are read via the environ_GetProfile* interface. 
However, some preferences are read during startup by the code in
libmssrv, which knows about amsn's (uninitialized) copy of ProgramName
and not about environ's copy.  So any preferences read by non-ATK code
-- namely libmssrv (and others) -- will have a bogus value for
ProgramName, and won't find "messages.foo". 	The workaround is simply to
ensure that amsn's copy of ProgramName is initialized with the
appropriate value, just as environ's copy is. 
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I was compiling Andrew 5.0.0 on a SparcStation with SunOS 4.1.1 I ran
into the following problem with mkfontdir ----------------------------- 
touch install.time touch install.doc building (dependInstall)
(/tmp_mnt/home/frencha1/dips3/andrew/xmkfontd) make
DESTDIR=/home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK install touch install.time touch
install.doc rm -f /home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK/X11fonts/fonts.alias
/usr/bin/X11/mkfontdir /home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK/X11fonts
/usr/bin/X11/mkfontdir: failed to create directory in
/home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK/X11fonts *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error:
Command failed for target `install' Current working directory
/tmp_mnt/home/frencha1/dips3/andrew/xmkfontd *** Error code 1 make:
Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current working
directory /tmp_mnt/home/frencha1/dips3/andrew/xmkfontd *** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall' Current
working directory /tmp_mnt/home/frencha1/dips3/andrew *** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World'
----------------------------- 
The following are some of the font files (linked) in the directory
/home/cae1/dips/Andrew/ATK/X11fonts. I am not familiar with the workings
of mkfontdi. I tried running mkfontdir by hand in this directory. It
gave the same error message about not being able to create
directories..??? 
------------------------------ amenu12.pcf@ andyof12.pcf@ apcrsr20.pcf@
apofic20.pcf@ aptcsr20.pcf@ apticn20.pcf@ bits1.pcf@ blshft12.pcf@ ....
------------------------------ 
Any help will be most appreciated 
thanks deeptendu -- ------ "Like a harsh neon streaking  through the
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Messages dosen't work Date: Fri, 28 Feb 92 17:05:23 -0800 From: "Kaoru
ENDO    CIPIC UC.Davis, CA, U.S.A." <endo@eecs.ucdavis.edu> X-Mts: smtp 

 I set some definitions as below and tried messages. but i can't read 
e-mail anything. 
in <$HOME>/preferences 
MailBoxDir: <$HOME>/Mailbox 
in <$ANDREWDIR>/etc/AndrewSetup 
AMS_NonAMSDelivery: yes 
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console can monitor incomming mail status correctry. but messages dosen't. 
eatmail said.  Could not move mail from /usr/spool/mail/endo to ~/Mailbox 
Normaly I use mh. sometimes mail. 
ATK version is 5.0 messages is 7.15-N. 
Plese advice me!! Return-path: <atkbb+Bad-Addresses@andrew.cmu.edu>
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Have you tried putting the line 
unset hold 
in the file .mailrc in your home directory? Return-path:
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If you want to put it in the middle of a paragraph that does NOT have
line breaks. you'll have to explicitly choose "plainer" on the affected
text.  If you're at the beginning of a line which is preceded by a hard
line break. the right thing should happen. 
Right now, Messages wraps an "excerpt" style around each LINE of
excerpted text, which produces the behavior you see.  Using the style
mechanism, the only way I could imagine to fix this would be to put a
separate style around each CHARACTER, which would be incredibly wasteful
(not to mention producing an exceedingly ugly datastream, which will
matter more in Messages 8.X, where the datastream will be read by lots
of non-Andrew software and occasionally even by human beings). 
An alternate approach would be to rebind all the text-insertion keys to
do something different if they're in the middle of an excerpt.  This
could be done, but it would be a lot of work....  For now, I suggest
using "plainest" to get your text out of the excerpt style.  --
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19:09:38 GMT From: prism!gt0963d@gatech.edu  (Deeptendu Majumder)
Organization: The Dream Chasers Syndicate Subject: Re: Mono monitor
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Well I have been trying to make the scroll bars look right on the
monochrome monitor. There seem to be so many preferences related to
scrollbar and I just cannot seem to get the right combination of black &
white & foreground and background! 
Will please anybody tell me what are ALL the various components of the
scrollbars and which options affect which parts. I have looked at the
scroll.help file. It did not help. 
There is matte, there is button, there is elevator, there is dot, the
bar itself, scroll etc..etc...And each of them have shadow,
foreground,background... I tried MimicOld option that gave variable
results. Everytime I start the app the bars look different..Boy! 
I need somebody to exactly describe to me what is what and which options
should I set to make it look like the most simple scrollbar (a white
slider on a grey bar, like xterms under twm) 
And for ITC people. It would be nice if you include a explanatory
diagram of scrollbar in your scroll.help file.. 
I have been struggling with this problem so long that it is getting to me.. 
If I do not get help I have to give up on ATK I guess. 
thanks d -- ------ "Like a harsh neon streaking  through the velvet
darkness the whetted knife of Life tore its path through her Dreams"