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Oh no ! 
I thought that would have gone away...... 
I got into the same problems when i was building ATK, Patchlevel 7, on
our DECstations. With the help from Christer Bernerus from Sweden i was
able to build ATK. 
Here now my question: isn't it possible to include Christer's changes
into the ATK, so anyone can build the toolkit without fiddling around ??
Shouldn't be impossible at all... 
BTW., we still got a few (:^>) VAXstations running Ultrix, but building
ATK on this was not possible till now - o.k., i didn't invest a lot of
time in this, cause my DECstation on my desk runs fine... 
Juergen. 

P.S.: Any status messages about a few (former) announcements like a     
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> I'm attempting to install andrew on a DECstation 2100 running ULTRIX
4.1, > and everything seems to be going well until the build process
gets to > processing the 'environ.*' files in the 'atk/basics/common'
directory. > > At which point I get the following errors: > > doload: 
Undefined symbol: sys_errlist > doload:  Errors while processing >
doindex: NULL entrypoint from environ.do...program terminated! > > The
build stops here and I can't figure out what is wrong. I've checked >
the 'overhead/class/machdep/dec_mips/...' stuff and find that
'getlist.awk' > is asking for the definer of sys_errlist. I've checked
my libc_G0.a (I'm > on a MIPS system) and there is NO definer of
sys_errlist. > > Any suggestions on where to go from here? Help would be
much appreciated. > 
When DEC decided to supply libc_G0.a they neglected to include errlst.o
in the archive for who knows what reason. You can either a) scarf it
from libc.a and rebuild libc_G0.a or b) recomp it from source (if you
have it). If you don't have it (why it shouldn't be supplied in source
form is beyond me), you can make one up by using the entries from the
errno(2) man page where each error number corresponds to the position of
the error text message in the sys_errlist[] array, like so: 
char *sys_errlist = { 	"Unused", 	"Not owner", 	"No such file or
directory", 	... }

You'll also need to define the value for the int sys_nerr (the number of
errors). 
Then compile this with the -G 0 option and add it to the libc_G0.a
archive. Make sure that you get the position right (check with libc.a). 
This should do it. 
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Subject: Questions about printing... 

  Well, I have a few problem with Andrew at patch 9.  First, very little
will run successfully off of sun4 machines, but I assume you know about
this problem and are working on it.  The other questions I have are more
important, and probably easier to solve. 
  First, I need to get andrew printing.  If I execute the command: 
ezprint -t <filename> | groff | qpr 
  it will print.  (we are running MDQS here, which is the cause of most
of the problems...)  I'd like to know how to get both EZ and HELP to use
this command.  Is there any way to do this? 
  Second, how can I tell andrew where mail is kept.  I know there is a
compile condition to indicate what directory mail is kept in, but we
keep mail on many different hosts, and mail is kept in
/mail/<machine>/<username> and the machine depends on which user you
are.  But, all users on this system have their MAIL environment variable
set to the correct file.  Is it possible to get andrew to look at $MAIL? 
  Please get back to me soon with any help you can offer.  Thank you. 
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>The good news is that Guy Harris is working on a >new version of the
class system that makes use of the builtin Sun4 >dynamic loading
support. 
It's not a new version of the entire "class" system, it's a new version
of "doload()" that uses the SunOS 4.1 dynamic loading support.  It's not
quite as big as the blurb above makes it sound.... :-) 
Also, it's not tied to Sun-4s; however, it *is* tied to SunOS 4.1 or
later - the procedural interface to the run-time loader first appeared
in SunOS 4.1.  If you're running SunOS 4.0[.x], it won't help you out. 
It may also serve as a basis for a System V Release 4 version of the
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I know that this has been gone over before, but I can't find where: What
is the technique for converting old MH directories into Messages format? 
Is this documented anywhere in the messages documents? If not, could it
have a help entry, or something, as I'm sure that for many sites who
start to use andrew, or users that want to switch, the process is too
complicated for the ordinary user. 
Also, a method of going back the other way would be nice. Quite a few
users say "I'll try messages for a while, but if I don't like it, then
could I convert back to using MH?" 
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Howdy, 
I've gotten Andrew installed and am quite pleased with it, but it wants
to use /tmp for almost every temporary file it creates. 
Our sites have relatively small /tmp directories, and use /var/tmp for
most of our large temporary file storage. This causes problems, for
example, when printing large files. 
So the question of the hour is how do I get Andrew to use /var/tmp for
it's temporary files (or preferably and environment variable TMPDIR)? 
I don't mind changing sources, just need to know what and where. Any
help would be appreciated. Please reply via email, as we're not yet
fully up on USENET. 
Thanks. 
Jeff. --     Jeff Putsch  Unitrode Integrated Circuits       UUCP:
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have questions) Date: 6 Feb 91 19:39:02 GMT From:
agate!shelby!shelby!pst@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Paul Traina) Organization:
Big Ed's Gas Farm, Twin Peaks, Washington Subject: Re: Converting MH to
messages Message-Id: <PST.91Feb6113902@ack.Stanford.EDU> References:
<gbfyOAe17p4Z0v1WBJ@doc.ic.ac.uk> Sender:
info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu 
Here's a simple way to convert from MH to andrewmail: 
Create all the folders you care about using CUI or Messages.  Then, just
copy the individual files from your MH mail directories into the proper
subdirectories under .MESSAGES. 
Finally, run the CUI "scavenge" or "rebuild" command to rebuild the
proper indices (sorry I don't rmember which you need to do when starting
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I 've installed AMDS on a SPARC Station and would like to use another
machine(which I use to send this msg now) as a relay to the Internet. 
AMDS Machine -----------> ersob.itri.org.tw                             
   |                                 |                                 v
                              Internet 
From the sys adm manual, I learnt that I should modify the
/etc/sendmail.cf. I 've added these line in the sendmail.cf 
#define local domain name Cm itri.org.tw Dm itri.org.tw 
# major relay host DRersob CRersob 
However, these seems can't work. Could anyone give me some pointers to
how to make this work? 
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   I am currently trying to install the andrew toolkit on a    HP
9000/400 running HP-UX 7.03. 
   I had several problems : 
    1) The compilation because of the wrong return type of strlen.      
 My solution was to add : 
#define _CLASSIC_ANSI_TYPES 1 
       in the file config/hp300/system.h, i am not sure of the       
complete correctness of this. 
    2) The second problem was during the execution of doindex,       
several symbols were undefined, in particular : fflush.        It seems
that the problem come from the output format        of the nm command,
the type of symbol if followed by a 'S'        if the symbol is
secondary. So i add the lines : 
/ TS / {     if (definer[$5] == "")         definer[ep[epcount++] = $5] = $2; }

        in the file : /overhead/class/machdep/hp_68k/getlist.awk        
and the make went much farther. 
    3) The third problem is too difficult for me : 
	rm -f framecmd.o 	cc -c -I.  +O1 -I/sic/andrew/include/atk
-I/sic/andrew/include -I/usr/include/X11 +Nd4000 +Ns3000 -W p,-H500000 
framecmd.c /usr/include/sys/signal.h: 114: SIGCHLD redefined
"framecmd.c", line 87: warning: incorrect pointer combination
"framecmd.c", line 88: warning: incorrect pointer combination
	/sic/andrew/bin/makedo  -d /sic/andrew/lib -b /sic/andrew/bin -o
framecmd.do 	framecmd.o  /sic/andrew/lib/libutil.a ld: multiply defined
symbol flag_68881 in file /sic/andrew/lib/libcx.a dofix:  Relocatable
symbol value (_longjmp = 11058, type 2) dofix:  Relocatable symbol value
(_setjmp = 11032, type 2) dofix:  Relocatable symbol value (__setjmp =
11080, type 2) dofix:  Relocatable symbol value (__longjmp = 11250, type
2) dofix:  Undefined:  _main doload:  Errors while processing doindex:
indexing framecmd.do ...doload:  Undefined symbol: _main doload: 
Unknown relocation in symbol.   reltab:  00002b2e 000041 02  
symtab[000041]: 27 4879 2f390001 p:Hy doload:  Internal botch should
have resolved in doload_preset doload:  Errors while processing doindex:
NULL entrypoint from framecmd.do...program terminated! *** Error code 1 


        The symbol flag_68881 is signaled as "multiple defined"        
which is true : it is defined in /lib/libc.a AND in         /lib/crt0.o
which a different type (D an B). If i remove         the double
definition the following occur : 
+ rm -f /sic/andrew/dlib/atk/helptxtv.do + ln -s
/disc/sic/install_X11/X.V11R4-src/HPux-7.03/contrib/toolkits/andrew/atk/f
rame/helptxtv.do /sic/andrew/dlib/atk 	/sic/andrew/bin/doindex
-d/sic/andrew/dlib/atk frame.do  framecmd.do  framemsg.do  framev.do 
helptxtv.do doindex: indexing frame.do ...OK doindex: indexing
framecmd.do ...doload:  Undefined symbol: _main doload:  Unknown
relocation in symbol.   reltab:  00002b2e 000041 02   symtab[000041]: 9d
5340 00000000 doload:  Unknown relocation in symbol.   reltab:  00002b44
000043 02   symtab[000043]: 9d 5340 00000000 doload:  Errors while
processing doindex: NULL entrypoint from framecmd.do...program
terminated! *** Error code 1 
Stop. 

     Does somebody has any idea on the reason of this ?      Thank you
very much for your help. 

NB. excuse my poor english. 
Regards, 
       Claude Lecommandeur        Service Informatique Central       
Ecole Polytechnique de Lausanne        1015 LAUSANNE (SWITZERLAND)
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