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Now I 've configure two daemons, a outgoing daemon and a delivery daemon
which use /etc/oldsendmail to deliver Internet mail. But how can I
received mails form Internet? We used to use /usr/lib/sendmail -bd to
listen to the SMTP port for incoming mail from other hosts. How can I
get the same listenning function in AMSD? 
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>(Warning to the easily-revolted: raw sendmail code follows.) >In
outline, you do this.  In sendmail.cf ruleset 0, you shoud replace >all
the lines that resolve to the mailer named ``local'' with lines that
>resolve to a mailer named something else; I'll use the name ``Xlocal''.
>Thus, for example, you'd replace the line >    R$+    $#local$:$1   
local names >with >    R$+    $#Xlocal$:$1    local names >Replace all
the uses of ``local'', or at least all where you expect to >receive
mail. > >Now, you have to define this mailer, too.  I use the
definition: > >MXlocal,    P=/etc/queuemail, F=nlmuFD, S=10, R=20,
A=queuemail -r $g -i -s -T > -A 0;transarc.com;Network-Mail -a $u 
Before your message come, I 've tried to change the local mailer to
/etc/queuemail liked this 
Mlocal,    P=/etc/queuemail, F=nlmuFD, S=10, R=20, A=queuemail -r $g -i
-s -T  -A 0;transarc.com;Network-Mail -a $u 
and then I tried to change mailer to Xlocal according to your message.
But they all resulted the same; two files, dfAAXXXXX and qfAAXXXXX
queued in the directory /usr/spool/mqueue for each outside mail. I
enclosed a sample of these files. 
Is there still anything needed to be modified in the sendmail.cf? Can I
make queuemail to output some logfiles for debuggging whenever it is
invoked by /usr/lib/sendmail? 
:::::::::::::: dfAA01307 :::::::::::::: REPLY!! :::::::::::::: qfAA01307
:::::::::::::: P1302 T660300188 DdfAA01307 MDeferred S<sung@next>
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Hmessage-id: <9012040844.AA04763@ next > HTo: sung+@w2sun2 Hsubject: Re:
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Subject: The Andrew system 
I have heard about the Andrew system word-proceesor. Can you summarize
its features for me please? And from where can I ftp it (apart from
expo.lcs.mit.edu)? 
Many thanks! 
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I also forward a copy of sendmail.cf of the local site, a Sun 4/65. All
modifications have comments added with my name and date. 
Hope you can figure out what is going wrong? 
                                         Sung
----------------------------------------------------------------- 
########################################################### # #      
SENDMAIL CONFIGURATION FILE FOR SUBSIDIARY MACHINES # #       You should
install this file as /etc/sendmail.cf #       if your machine is a
subsidiary machine (that is, some #       other machine in your domain
is the main mail-relaying #       machine).  Then edit the file to
customize it for your #       network configuration. # #       See the
manual "System Administration for the Sun Workstation". #       Look at
"Setting Up The Mail Routing System" in the chapter on #      
Communications.  The Sendmail references in the back of the #      
manual are also very useful. # #       @(#)subsidiary.mc 1.11 88/02/08
SMI; from UCB arpa.mc 3.25 2/24/83 # 
# local UUCP connections -- not forwarded to mailhost CV 
# my official hostname Dj$w.$m 
# major relay mailer DMether 
# major relay host DRmailhost CRmailhost 
################################################# # #       General
configuration information 
# local domain names # # These can now be set from the domainname system
call. # If your YP domain is different from the domain name you would
like to have # appear in your mail headers, edit them to be your mail
domain name. # Note that the first component of the YP domain name is
stripped off unless # it begins with a dot or a plus sign. #
DmPodunk.EDU 
# known hosts in this domain are obtained from gethostbyname() call 
# Version number of configuration file DVSMI-4.0 

###   Standard macros 
# name used for error messages DnMailer-Daemon # UNIX header format
DlFrom $g  $d # delimiter (operator) characters Do.:%@!^=/[] # format of
a total name Dq$g$?x ($x)$. # SMTP login message De$j Sendmail $v/$V
ready at $b 
###   Options 
# Remote mode - send through server if mailbox directory is mounted OR #
location of alias file OA/etc/aliases # default delivery mode (deliver
in background) Odbackground # rebuild the alias file automagically OD #
temporary file mode -- 0600 for secure mail, 0644 for permissive OF0600
# default GID Og1 # location of help file OH/usr/lib/sendmail.hf # log
level OL9 # default messages to old style # marked by sung Dec 3 1990
#Oo # Cc my postmaster on error replies I generate OPPostmaster # queue
directory OQ/usr/spool/mqueue # read timeout for SMTP protocols Or15m #
status file -- none OS/etc/sendmail.st # queue up everything before
starting transmission, for safety Os # return queued mail after this
long OT3d # default UID Ou1 
###   Message precedences Pfirst-class=0 Pspecial-delivery=100 Pjunk=-100 
###   Trusted users T root daemon uucp 
###   Format of headers H?P?Return-Path: <$g> HReceived: $?sfrom $s $.by
$j ($v/$V)         id $i; $b H?D?Resent-Date: $a H?D?Date: $a
H?F?Resent-From: $q H?F?From: $q H?x?Full-Name: $x HSubject:
H?M?Resent-Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> H?M?Message-Id: <$t.$i@$j> HErrors-To: 
########################### ###   Rewriting rules   ###
########################### 

#  Sender Field Pre-rewriting S1 # None needed. 
#  Recipient Field Pre-rewriting S2 # None needed. 
# Name Canonicalization 
# Internal format of names within the rewriting rules is: #      
anything<@host.domain.domain...>anything # We try to get every kind of
name into this format, except for local # names, which have no host
part.  The reason for the "<>" stuff is # that the relevant host name
could be on the front of the name (for # source routing), or on the back
(normal form).  We enclose the one that # we want to route on in the
<>'s to make it easy to find. # S3 
# handle "from:<>" special case R<>                     $@@             
               turn into magic token 
# basic textual canonicalization R$*<$+>$*               $2             
                basic RFC822 parsing 
# make sure <@a,@b,@c:user@d> syntax is easy to parse -- undone later
R@$+,$+:$+              @$1:$2:$3                       change all ","
to ":" R@$+:$+                 $@$>6<@$1>:$2                   src route
canonical 
R$+:$*;@$+              $@$1:$2;@$3                     list syntax
R$+@$+                  $:$1<@$2>                       focus on domain
R$+<$+@$+>              $1$2<@$3>                       move gaze right
R$+<@$+>                $@$>6$1<@$2>                    already
canonical 
# convert old-style names to domain-based names # All old-style names
parse from left to right, without precedence. R$-!$+                 
$@$>6$2<@$1.uucp>               uucphost!user R$-.$+!$+              
$@$>6$3<@$1.$2>                 host.domain!user R$+%$+                 
$@$>3$1@$2                      user%host 
#  Final Output Post-rewriting S4 R$+<@$+.uucp>           $2!$1         
                 u@h.uucp => h!u R$+                     $: $>9 $1      
                Clean up addr R$*<$+>$*               $1$2$3            
             defocus 

#  Clean up an name for passing to a mailer #  (but leave it focused) S9
R@                      $@$n                            handle <> error
addr R$*<$*LOCAL>$*          $1<$2$m>$3                      change
local info R<@$+>$*:$+:$+          <@$1>$2,$3:$4                  
<route-addr> canonical 

####################### #   Rewriting rules 
# special local conversions S6 R$*<@$*$=m>$*           $1<@$2LOCAL>$4   
              convert local domain 
# Local and Program Mailer specification 
Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=rlsDFMmnP, S=10, R=20, A=mail -d $u #Mlocal,     
  P=/etc/queuemail, F=nlmuFD, S=10, R=20, A=queuemail -r $g -i  -s -T -A
0;w2sun2;Network-Mail -a $u # Tried by sung Dec 4 1990 MXlocal,
P=/etc/queuemail, F=nlmuFD, S=10, R=20, A=queuemail -r $g -i -s  -T -A
0;w2sun2;Network-Mail -a $u Mprog,  P=/bin/sh,   F=lsDFMeuP,  S=10,
R=20, A=sh -c $u 
S10 # None needed. 
S20 # None needed. 
############################################################ ##### #####
          Ethernet Mailer specification ##### #####   Messages processed
by this configuration are assumed to remain #####   in the same domain. 
This really has nothing particular to do #####   with Ethernet - the
name is historical. 
Mether, P=[TCP], F=msDFMuCX, S=11, R=21, A=TCP $h S11 R$*<@$+>$*        
     $@$1<@$2>$3                     already ok R$+                    
$@$1<@$w>                       tack on our hostname 
S21 # None needed. 


########################################################## #  General
code to convert back to old style UUCP names S5 R$+<@LOCAL>            
$@ $D!$1                        name@LOCAL => sun!name R$+<@$-.LOCAL>   
      $@ $2!$1                        u@h.LOCAL => h!u R$+<@$+.uucp>    
      $@ $2!$1                        u@h.uucp => h!u R$+<@$*>          
     $@ $2!$1                        u@h => h!u # Route-addrs do not
work here.  Punt til uucp-mail comes up with something. R<@$+>$*        
       $@ @$1$2                        just defocus and punt R$*<$*>$*  
            $@ $1$2$3                       Defocus strange stuff 
#       UUCP Mailer specification 
Muucp,  P=/usr/bin/uux, F=msDFMhuU, S=13, R=23,         A=uux - -r
$h!rmail ($u) 
# Convert uucp sender (From) field S13 R$+                     $:$>5$1  
                      convert to old style R$=w!$+                 $2   
                          strip local name R$+                    
$:$w!$1                         stick on real host name 
# Convert uucp recipient (To, Cc) fields S23 R$+                    
$:$>5$1                         convert to old style 

#####           RULESET ZERO PREAMBLE 
# Ruleset 30 just calls rulesets 3 then 0. S30 R$*                    
$: $>3 $1                       First canonicalize R$*                  
  $@ $>0 $1                       Then rerun ruleset 0 
S0 # On entry, the address has been canonicalized and focused by ruleset
3. # Handle special cases..... #R@                     $#local $:$n     
              handle <> form # Tried by sung Dec 4 1990 R@              
       $#Xlocal $:$n                   handle <> form # For numeric
spec, you can't pass spec on to receiver, since rcvr's # are not smart
enough to know that [x.y.z.a] is their own name. R<@[$+]>:$*            
$:$>9 <@[$1]>:$2                Clean it up, then... R<@[$+]>:$*        
    $#ether $@[$1] $:$2             numeric internet spec R<@[$+]>,$*   
         $#ether $@[$1] $:$2             numeric internet spec
R$*<@[$+]>              $#ether $@[$2] $:$1             numeric internet
spec 
# arrange for local names to be fully qualified R$*<@$%y>$*            
$1<@$2.LOCAL>$3                 user@etherhost 
# now delete redundant local info R$*<$*$=w.LOCAL>$*      $1<$2>$4      
                 thishost.LOCAL R$*<@LOCAL>$*           $1<@$m>$2       
               host == domain gateway R$*<$*$=w.uucp>$*       $1<$2>$4  
                     thishost.uucp R$*<$*$=w>$*            $1<$2>$4     
                  thishost R$*<$*.>$*              $1<$2>$3             
          drop trailing dot R<@>:$*                 $@$>30$1            
           retry after route strip R$*<@>                  $@$>30$1     
                  strip null trash & retry 


################################################ ###  Machine dependent
part of ruleset zero  ###
################################################ 
# resolve names we can handle locally R<@$=V.uucp>:$+         $:$>9 $1  
                     First clean up, then... R<@$=V.uucp>:$+        
$#uucp  $@$1 $:$2               @host.uucp:... R$+<@$=V.uucp>         
$#uucp  $@$2 $:$1               user@host.uucp 
# optimize names of known ethernet hosts R$*<@$%y.LOCAL>$*       $#ether
$@$2 $:$1<@$2>$3        user@host.here 
# other non-local names will be kicked upstairs R$+                    
$:$>9 $1                        Clean up, keep <> R$*<@$+>$*            
 $#$M    $@$R $:$1<@$2>$3        user@some.where R$*@$*                 
$#$M    $@$R $:$1<@$2>          strangeness with @ 
# Local names with % are really not local! R$+%$+                 
$@$>30$1@$2                     turn % => @, retry 
# everything else is a local name #R$+                    $#local $:$1  
                 local names # Tried by sung Dec 4 1990 R$+             
       $#Xlocal$:$1                    local names Return-path:
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Anthony Edwards <tobeye@northstar.dartmouth.edu> writes: > Are there
plans to make the convertraster program handle .GIF, .TIF, or > G3/Fax
formatted files? 
	The ITC RF format (otherwise known as CMU WM raster format) is
supported inside of pbmplus (cmuwmtopbm and pbmtocmuwm). If anything,
convertraster should be scrapped in favor of a similar pbmtoatkras -
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Awhile ago I posted a message saying our andrew console windows gave a
speckled appearance after building andrew patch level 7.  We've
discovered that the speckled appearance was due to a foreground color
designation in our .preferences file. We use a common .preferences file
for use with all of our workstations, so color attributues are generally
set regardless of whether a particular monitor is color or black &
white. Setting foreground color for the console program, e.g,
"console.ForegroundColor: yellow", causes fonts to appear speckled and
not very legible on black & white monitors under patch level 7--this
speckled appearance doesn't occur when using  earlier versions of
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I just found that I made a stupid mistake; forgot to setuid the trymail
and switchmail and trymail. Therefore, the incoming Internet mails are
queued. 
Now I am putting those daemons in the rc.local. But I still do not
understand what is a Dropoff Daemon. What is its usage? for Outgoing or
Delivery? 
Besides, a question about White Pages: whenever I modify the
/etc/passwd, should I invoke wpbuild to update the WP database? any
other convenient way? 
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09:08:15 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
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Speckled Console Fonts: Solution In-Reply-To: <705@nih-csl.nih.gov>
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You might want to investigate the preferences feature that allows
preferences to be dependent on environment variables.  For example, I
work on a color monitor at work and a black & white X terminal at home.
From home, I set a variable "ISGRAPHON" to be "yes", and then I can just
use the following color preferences: 
?E!ISGRAPHON=yes:*.foregroundcolor: blue
?E!ISGRAPHON=yes:*.backgroundcolor: lightyellow 
Some variant on this solution might be useful in your case.  --
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Hansen <wjh+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: convertraster for GIF/TIF/G3
CC: Info-Andrew <info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu> In-Reply-To:
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Fred Hansen <wjh+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > Excerpts from
internet.info-andrew: 4-Dec-90 Re: convertraster for > GIF/T.. Daniel
Edward Lovinger (394) > > > convertraster should be scrapped in favor of
a similar pbmtoatkras - > > atkrastopbm contstruct. > > Who does pbm
work?  The proposed translations should be simple enough if > someone is
available to code them.  If needed, I can help understand the > ATK
raster format. 
	Jef Poskanzer (jef@helios.ee.lbl.gov) does pbmplus. You should be able
to find the source for the R4 release in contrib/clients/pbmplus off of
the R4 tape root. It's a very straightforward process to create a new
translator, and the PBMplus package is used almost literally everywhere.
Having pbm-atk filter would be extremely convenient ... 
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        The feature about spell checking in our EZ can not work. When I
chose "Check Spelling" from Search/Spell menu card in EZ  I just got the
message: " Could not start ispell. Spell checking may not be supported
at this site.". The help file for spelling check is also blank.        
Then I found in the file "txtvcmds.c" that the corresponding procedure
is NULL. Is that the reason why our spell checking doesn't work ? Does
it work at your site ? Please tell me how to solve the problem. (Our
machine is Sun sparc workstation)                                       
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To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Proliferating messages -s
processes Cc: macdonal@parc.xerox.com 
I am running an application where every once in a while I want to send a
message derived from some set of data. I currently do this by doing a
system() call to sendmessage -f datafilename. This accomplishes what I
want for that particular message, but since sendmessage only hides
instead of dying I end up with many essentailly dead processes. Is there
a way to stuff a file into an existing sendmessage process and reopen
the window?  Is there a way for sendmessage to kill the messages process
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12:53:25 -0500 (EST) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re:
Proliferating messages -s processes Cc: macdonal@parc.xerox.com
In-Reply-To: <sbLaHjcB0OV6MElUYT@brynmawr.parc.xerox.com> References:
<sbLaHjcB0OV6MElUYT@brynmawr.parc.xerox.com> 
If all you're doing is sending off mail automatically from a program,
you really don't need to use sendmessage -- you can use BSD sendmail
instead. 
If you need for the program to interact with the user before sending
mail, that's different.  If the user doesn't quit afterwards, your
problem makes sense.  I don't think there are currently any features to
do what you want.  (It wouldn't be hard -- the proverbial "small matter
of programming" -- but the feature does not currently exist.)
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17:18:10 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Cattey <wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> To:
info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu,         Anthony Edwards
<tobeye@northstar.dartmouth.edu> Subject: Re: Andrew Menus, (Was: Re:
Motif) In-Reply-To: <0bJaezG1eVXqInNPsH@northstar.dartmouth.edu>
References: <0bJaezG1eVXqInNPsH@northstar.dartmouth.edu> 
Yes, beginning Andrew users at MIT also complain of the sensitivity of
the menus. 
I have not come up with a good way to tetermine the right OverlapPct
constant to set. 
My problem is that I got used to the menus as they are now, and am
unable to evaluate what an inexperienced user would like. 
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Message-Id: <YbLhOdkGG02=IC5oog@athena.mit.edu> Date: Thu,  6 Dec 1990
18:39:21 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Cattey <wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> To:
info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Is there Planck's constant in eq.
Cc: palka@ATHENA.MIT.EDU 
A student writing a physics paper in ez wants to put Planck's constant
into an eq inset. 
There isn't a symbol for that in eq is there? 
Does anyone have a way for generating it? 
How DOES one add a new symbol to eq? 
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Resent-Message-Id: <sbLhhFsGG02=EC5qY9@athena.mit.edu> Resent-Date: Thu,
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<QbLg5hIGG02=AC5lI6@athena.mit.edu> Date: Thu,  6 Dec 1990 17:08:45
-0500 (EST) From: Bill Cattey <wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> To: Nathaniel
Borenstein <nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> Subject: Re: Andrew Menus, (Was:
Re: Motif) In-Reply-To: <obJatWy0M2YtM9rnkJ@thumper.bellcore.com>
References: <4bIx7l618X_CQqiF0a@prefect.watson.ibm.com>,
<332@srchtec.UUCP>, 	<TML.90Nov29151341@nyyti.tik.vtt.fi>,
	<UbJLbE20M2Yt88uYJC@thumper.bellcore.com>,
	<cbJWGmy1408JRZuVon@cs.chalmers.se>,
	<obJatWy0M2YtM9rnkJ@thumper.bellcore.com> 
I like the idea of adding the key binding to the menu string. However,
it would have to be done in such a way that if a user re-binds the
keystroke, the properly bound keystroke is named, rather than the hard
coded default keystroke. 
I iamgine that doing this would bne a little tricky, but the necessary
intelligence already probably exists somewhere in the deskey object. 
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Subject: building andrew under openwin 


Hi, 
I know about the succesful installation of Andrew with openwin in
various sites. We had here andrew running fine under X11/R4 both on
Sparcs and on SUN3. Recently we tried to use open windows and we had a
problem. Before spending more time on it, I would like to get some
advise. 
We tried to compile with the following site.* files 

/* Empty site.h file.  Use this file to hold all */ /* your site's
changes to allsys.h and system.h. */ #define MK_BASIC_UTILS       1
#define MK_AUTHORING         1 #define MK_EXAMPLES         1 #define
MK_AUX_UTILS         1 #define MK_INSETS         1 /* Empty site.mcr
file.  Use this file to hold all */ /* your site's changes to allsys.mcr
and system.mcr. */         XSRCDIR =        XUTILDIR = /usr/bin/X11     
   XLIBDIR = /usr1/openwin/lib         XINCDIR = /usr1/openwin/include  
     RESOLVLIB = /usr/lib/libresolv.a 
The imake and the make Makefiles run properly but the make World stopped
almost directly with the following message. 


/usr/bin/X11/makedepend:  conftest.c: /usr/bin/X11/makedepend:  cannot
find include file "andrewos.h" /usr/bin/X11/makedepend:        not in
andrewos.h /usr/bin/X11/makedepend:        not in ./andrewos.h
/usr/bin/X11/makedepend:        not in
/usr/andrew/include/atk/andrewos.h /usr/bin/X11/makedepend:        not
in /usr/andrew/include/andrewos.h /usr/bin/X11/makedepend:        not in
/usr1/openwin/include/andrewos.h /usr/bin/X11/makedepend:        not in
/usr/include/andrewos.h /usr/bin/X11/makedepend:  cannot open
"andrewos.h" make: Fatal error: Don't know how to make target
`andrewos.h' Current working directory /home/andrew/overhead/sys ***
Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target
`dependInstall' Current working directory /home/andrew/overhead/sys ***
Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target
`dependInstall' Current working directory /home/andrew/overhead ***
Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target
`dependInstall' Current working directory /home/andrew *** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `World' 
------------------------------ We have seen that the andrewos.h file and
some others are simbolic links in the /usr/andrew/include. When these
links were created the original files were not existing. We do not know
which script is making these files and why it fails. 
Any ideas? 
Did anybody have similar problems in the past. I remember some mails
regarding problems with fonts. I tried to talk directly to one of these
sites but the mail didn't go through. Will we be able to work in an
interim period without these fonts? 
Bye, Yannis Yeorgaroudakis 


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I'm looking at replacing the xim class with a re-write of xim.  In this
version, creating an xim will create a menubar at the top of a window
(the actual xim will have a backing window, a menubar strip window, and
a view window, instead of the current single view window in xim).  Menus
will be translated as per Xerox ViewPoint:  items on the unnamed pane
will be direct-action buttons on the menubar, named menu panes will be
buttons that will bring up single-pane menus.  This looks essentially
trivial to do, and should solve most of our problems with ATK menus. The
cruft is figuring out how to support the masses of options on Andrew
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I think I'll add calls to im to directly support X-style selections,
while I'm at it. 
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> I did not see any solution to that problem (maybe I missed some
message) > so after looking at the source I found that > setenv WMHOST
localhost > solves the problem. 

Another way of getting it to work is to always supply the -n option to
help. Doing so stops the check to see if a help is already running.
Using the -n option is a must when you have a number of X terminals on
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<nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: New
program:  ezview Cc: info-andrew-bugs+@andrew.cmu.edu 
I've written a very tiny new program that is actually quite useful.
Called "ezview", it will run ezview on a file if ez can be run, and will
otherwise use the "unscribe" routines to display (on stdout) the
"unformatted" version of a file.  This yields a single program that
anyone can run to view an ATK file -- if they're running X and ez is
installed, it will simply run ez, but otherwise it will show them
something prettier than the raw datastream (e.g. with "A raster appeared
here but could not be displayed.") 
To add this program to your distribution, you only need to do four things: 
1.  Modify contrib/Imakefile to include "ezview" on the SUBDIRS line. 
2.  Create contrib/ezview. 
3.  Put two new files (Imakefile and ezview.c) into contrib/ezview. 
4.  Recompile (easiest way is to cd to contrib and type "make Makefiles
SUBDIR=ezview", and then cd to contrib/ezview and type "make Install".) 
The two new files, both very tiny, follow below: 
________________________________________________________________
Imakefile:
________________________________________________________________ OBJS   
           =       ezview.o 
LIBS=         ${BASEDIR}/lib/libmail.a     ${UTILLIB} 
NormalObjectRule() 
ProgramTarget(ezview, ${OBJS}, ${LIBS} , ) 
DependTarget() 
InstallProgram(ezview, ${DESTDIR}/bin)
________________________________________________________________
ezview.c
________________________________________________________________
#include <stdio.h> #include <mail.h> /* from andrew distribution */
#include <sys/file.h> 
/* Compile this with cc -I$ANDREWDIR/include ezview.c
$ANDREWDIR/lib/libmail.a $ANDREWDIR/lib/libutil.a -o ezview */ 
main(argc, argv) int argc; char **argv; {     struct ScribeState
ScribeState;     int bytes, code, fd;     char BigBuf[5000]; 
    if (argc < 2) exit(-1);     sprintf(BigBuf, "ez -d %s", argv[1]);   
 if (!getenv("DISPLAY") || system(BigBuf)) { 	fd = open(argv[1],
O_RDONLY); 	if (fd < 0) exit(-1); 	code = UnScribeInit("12",
&ScribeState); 	while ((bytes = read(fd, BigBuf, sizeof(BigBuf) - 1)) >
0) { 	    UnScribe(code, &ScribeState, BigBuf, bytes, stdout); 	}
	UnScribeFlush(code, &ScribeState, stdout);     }     exit(0); }

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<AbNH27G0=deb8IlooL@frenchhorn.ecn.purdue.edu> 
This is not a Messages bug, but, properly speaking, it is a CH*MP bug.
(However, that doesn't get ME off the hook, since I'm the author of
both!)  The bug is that once a program is started and is running the
ch*mp code, it never again checks to see if any of the data files (the
files on your champpath preference, if you have one) have changed.  In
other words, if you add events, you won't see them until you exit &
restart the program.  You will see this same bug if you use ez to view a
chomp inset, as well. 
This could, of course, be fixed.  The code is all in atk/champ.  In
fact, here's an inefficient but simple fix:   In the file
atk/champ/match.c, add the following to the very beginning of the
procedure "FlagEventsMatchingDate": 
struct eventnode *preven = NULL; for (en=RootEventNode; en ;
en=en->next) {     if (en->event) free(en->event);     if (preven)
free(preven);     preven = en; }
free(preven); RootEventNode = NULL; ReadDatesFromChampPath(NULL); 
Note that I haven't tested the above code, but I believe it should fix
the problem.  The only thing is, it is very inefficient -- it rereads
all your champ files every time, rather than only when they change.  To
do it right would be a little more work, but would all be localized to
the two files match.c and read.c, and should be within the abilities of
most C programmers.  (Note that no ATK knowledge is required, as this is
all in the non-ATK part of the code.)  I trust that if anyone actually
gets motivated to fix this "right" they will pass the code back to the
ITC... 
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Robert Andrew Ryan <rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > Currently, no.  We
could modify the X code to determine the key sequence > to send from a
preference though (with the default being the Escape > character of
course).  Chances of seeing this change in patch 8 are > probably low to
nil, but good for patch 9. 
Or maybe set the high bit? 
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Janssen <janssen@parc.xerox.com> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject:
ez -> text 
Thanks to Nathaniel for providing the insight into the UnScribe routines
I've been waiting for.  I re-wrote his code a bit, turning it into even
a simpler program, that just unscribes (called ez2text).  Now it's easy
to wrap in a shell script, to do what ezview does, and even more (mine
sets up the CLASSPATH, and defines LD_LIBRARY_PATH, etc.).  Enjoy. 
Imakefile:
======================================================================
OBJS2 = ez2text.o CFLAGS = -Bstatic 
LIBS= ${BASEDIR}/lib/libmail.a ${UTILLIB} 
NormalObjectRule() 
ProgramTarget(ez2text, ${OBJS2}, ${LIBS} , ) 
DependTarget() 
InstallProgram(ez2text, ${DESTDIR}/bin) 


C code:
======================================================================
#include <stdio.h> #include <mail.h> /* from andrew distribution */
#include <sys/file.h> 
/* Compile this with cc -I$ANDREWDIR/include ez2text.c
$ANDREWDIR/lib/libmail.a $ANDREWDIR/lib/libutil.a -o ez2text */ 
main(argc, argv) int argc; char **argv; {     struct ScribeState
ScribeState;     int bytes, code, fd;     char BigBuf[5000]; 
    if (argc < 2)       {       fprintf (stderr, "Usage:  ez2text
filename       fprintf (stderr, "ez2text:  Couldn't open file %s.      
UnScribe(code, &ScribeState, BigBuf, bytes, stdout);           
UnScribeFlush(code, &ScribeState, stdout);     close (fd);     exit(0); 
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Problem about Spelling Check in EZ To:
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        The feature about spell checking in our EZ can not work. When I
chose "Check Spelling" from Search/Spell menu card in EZ, I just got the
message: " Could not start ispell. Spell checking may not be supported
at this site.". The help file for spelling check is also blank.        
Then I found in the file "txtvcmds.c" that the corresponding procedure
is NULL. Is that the reason why our spell checking doesn't work ? Does
it work at your site ? Please tell me how to solve the problem. (Our
machine is Sun/4 sparc workstation)                                     
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Postscript print available? To:
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My ATK is V14.2. The document view.doc says that direct Postscript
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Rediculous Cursors and Icons To:
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Andrew applications on my site function will but look strange. I get a
horse to pick insets in "arb" and a black ball as cursor in EZ. The
application layer switch in arb shows "a" while turned on and "c" while
turned off. The most serious of all is that selection items of ZIP
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-0500 (EST) From: Miles Bader <bader+@andrew.cmu.edu> To: Info-Andrew
<info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: X11 key bindings, once
again... In-Reply-To: <0bNfu7K00VpN8PYVJz@andrew.cmu.edu> References:
<IbNBUEYP80008DxElt@lazy>, 	<4bNAzKC00WAv06F0x0@andrew.cmu.edu>,
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Actually, what I think would be ideal is to use something besides a
literally mapped string to specify keybindings to be added, and make the
entries in keymaps be 16-bit quantities (this makes the direct-mapping
with 256-entry array impossible, of course, but a simple solution would
be to have list of them [one for each unique high byte]). 
You could then have a bit which the escape prefix sets, a bit which the
meta key sets, a unique control bit (for systems which generate such),