Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 14:19:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 14:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix32 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 14:13:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 14:13:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 646+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Install rules Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 15:52:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 15:51:52 -0400 (EDT) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 15:48:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from research.att.com (research.att.com [192.20.225.2]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.5/8.5) with SMTP id PAA20117; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 15:48:48 -0400 Received: by inet; Mon Aug 2 15:47 EDT 1993 Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.fugue.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.fugue.sun4_41; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 15:47:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 15:47:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Chip Christian Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: address validation Our nameservers don't know anything outside of att.com. How can I get messages to stop trying to validate the host when I send mail? I'm running andrew 5.1 on a sun4, sunos4.1.3. Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 17:08:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 17:07:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix32 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Mon, 2 Aug 1993 17:07:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4gLM81u00WohJfpUcK@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 2 Aug 1993 17:07:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1179+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: address validation Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 3 Aug 1993 10:48:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 3 Aug 1993 10:45:27 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-Message-ID: Received: from neptun.kapsch.co.at (neptun.kapsch.co.at [148.198.8.4]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.5/8.5) with SMTP id KAA06238; Tue, 3 Aug 1993 10:44:31 -0400 Resent-From: @neptun.kapsch.co.at:fodatec@harare.kapsch.co.at Resent-Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:43 MET Received: from harare.kapsch.co.at [148.198.10.5] by neptun.kapsch.co.at with SMTP-OpenVMS via TCP/IP; Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:43 MET Received: by harare.kapsch.co.at (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23150; Tue, 3 Aug 93 16:44:11 +0200 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.harare.kapsch.co.at.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.harare.kapsch.co.at.sun4_41; Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:44:10 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 16:44:10 +0200 (MET DST) From: Fodatec Project To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Current Insertion Style I want to build menuentries which give a certain style to - a textportion if one is selected - to the subsequently typed in text ("Current Insertion Style"). The first point is no problem. With the second point I did not succeed yet. You will probalbly ask me why I don't use the build in styles. (styeMenu and Stylesheet in the textclass) Answer: I cannot because we have some special stylesheet where some styles have no meaning for ATK. As well the whole stylesheet changes dynamically. So I get problems with the updating of the menus which can't be controlled. For instance if you use the built in Stylesheet mechanism for creating menucards. If you change the stylesheeet on the run everything works fine, all traceoutputs are ok - BUT the menucard is still the same showing old entries wich behave like the new ones should. So I built up a menu of my own (where I had to recode many things already there in other classes - which should not occur in a class system) because menucards don't follow inheritance. The only thing I didn't get around was the second point from above. It should be possible to set a current insertion style like it can be done in ez, when you choose a style without marking a region. Unfortunaltely these "methods" are not only not inherited but even worse are full of side effects, so I can't even port them to my code. Beside that there are no comments and no documentation. So has anybody some idea how I can code the second feature from above? Thanks Christian.Sodomka@kapsch.co.at Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 8779;andrew.cmu.edu;Andrew C. Plotkin Received: from orac.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 3 Aug 1993 18:29:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from orac.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 3 Aug 1993 18:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.orac.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.orac.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Tue, 3 Aug 1993 18:26:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1993 18:26:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Andrew C. Plotkin" To: Info-Andrew Subject: Windows vs. Processes Excerpts from mail: 30-Jul-93 Re: hyplink patch Wilfred.Hansen@cs.cmu.ed (1428+0) > I have always wondered why we have both Quit and DeleteWindow; it seems > overly didactic and programmerly to insist that users distinguish > processes from windows, even though the system does. I propose to > eliminate the difference and change "Quit" to "Quit Window". There > would then be no way to kill an application except to quit all its > windows. When Quitting the last window for a process, a dialog box > appears asking if the user is happy with that. (Sigh. I suppose there > must be a preference that retains the old behavior.) So, Dear Members, this leaves us with a question: how do we deal with this? Currently, the interface is not quite consistent: the raster toolbox and figure toolbox have "Quit" menu options which really only delete the toolbox windows. (My fault -- I wasn't thinking of consistency when I wrote them.) This issue is complicated by the fact that one process may support (or seem to support) different kinds of applications. A piece of mail may contain a link which brings up a new buffer; should the buffer act as a separate ez window, with its own Quit Window option, and possibly outlive messages? Really, it should be possible to run new applications from an already-running runapp, and have then act the same as if they were starting from a fresh runapp. I have wanted to do this for a long time, but there are deeply-buried annoyances which make it hard. Thoughts? (None of this would be implemented in the next release in any case; any changes would be in the C++ version.) --Z "And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..." 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Plotkin" Subject: Re: Windows vs. Processes In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 9 Aug 1993 18:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 9 Aug 1993 18:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix32 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Mon, 9 Aug 1993 18:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8gNgsGa00Woh0qBkMG@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 9 Aug 1993 18:22:10 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1403+1 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: "ez lite" ? In-Reply-To: <23v1lqINNogk@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> References: <23v1lqINNogk@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> Distribution: inet Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:52:36 -0400 (EDT) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from relay2.UU.NET (relay2.UU.NET [192.48.96.7]) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.5/8.5) with SMTP id SAA15476; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 18:48:41 -0400 Received: from welch.ncd.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA07184; Wed, 18 Aug 93 14:55:50 -0400 Received: from rosebud.ncd.com by welch.ncd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Brent-NCD-Welch-930602) id AA26433; Wed, 18 Aug 93 11:55:43 PDT Received: from porter. ncd.com by rosebud.ncd.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/Brent-NCD-Rosebud-930602) id AA19063; Wed, 18 Aug 93 11:55:39 PDT Received: by porter. ncd.com (1.37.109.4/SMI-4.1) id AA13854; Wed, 18 Aug 93 11:57:34 -0700 Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.porter.HP9000.705 via MS.5.6.porter.hp700; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 11:57:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <0gQbiR0000000pyEU0@porter> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 11:57:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Olander Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: flock problems on HP-UX and Messages Cc: Kris Olander I recently have run into a problem with v8.5 of Messages running on a HP700 system at HP-UX 9.0. Everything was fine until about a week ago. Now whenever I select a message, I get a pop up dialog box that says: Could not mark message ## as 'seen' [Send automatic bug report] [ Continue ] with a message in the footer area that says: "Error: No locks available (in flock in OpenMSDirectory)" All my files are on a Solbourne NFS file server. I have no problems editing my files on the HP host, so I don't think this is a kernel limit problem. I also get a similar message when attempting to change my Setup Options. Whenever I change some option, I get a popup box: Warning: could not rewrite your preferences file (-4, 46) [ Send auto... ] [ Continue ] and a footer message: "Error 46 (No locks available) "may" have been encountered internally." If I use 'vi ~/preferences' I don't have a problem modifying the file. -Kris Olander NCD Field Engineer Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 1447;andrew.cmu.edu;Gary Keim Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 19:40:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rascal.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 19:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs.aix32 via MS.5.6.rascal.andrew.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Wed, 18 Aug 1993 19:36:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Aug 1993 19:36:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Keim X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1106+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: flock problems on HP-UX and Messages CC: Kris Olander In-Reply-To: <0gQbiR0000000pyEU0@porter> References: <0gQbiR0000000pyEU0@porter> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 26 Aug 1993 12:31:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 26 Aug 1993 12:30:37 -0400 (EDT) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 26 Aug 1993 12:29:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cns.cscns.com (cns.cscns.com [192.156.196.1]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.5/8.5) with SMTP id MAA11932; Thu, 26 Aug 1993 12:29:00 -0400 Received: from mass.UUCP by cns.cscns.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06550; Thu, 26 Aug 93 10:30:26 MDT Received: by mass.mass.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #6) id m0oVjeF-00035DC; Thu, 26 Aug 93 09:54 MDT Message-Id: From: mjones@mass.com Subject: unsubscribe To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1993 09:54:02 -0700 (MDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 568 Unsubscribe mjones@mass.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---