Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:07:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:06:49 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:04:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:03:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:03:28 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:03:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:03:28 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 189+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: PS -- SunOS 4.1.3 Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:07:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:06:50 -0500 (EST) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:03:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:02:08 -0500 (EST) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:02:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:02:06 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <0hb2ZSu00gjORnFVND@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 09:02:06 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 523+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: SunOS 4.1.3 Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:18:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:16:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from gimli.bio.purdue.edu (gimli.bio.purdue.edu [128.210.18.10]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id PAA24206 for ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:16:13 -0500 Received: by gimli.bio.purdue.edu id AA01268 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu); Fri, 1 Apr 94 15:16:11 -0500 Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.gimli.bio.purdue.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.gimli.bio.purdue.edu.pmax_ul4; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:16:05 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 15:16:05 -0500 (EST) From: Dwight McKay X-Andrew-Message-Size: 517+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a? Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:18:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:17:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:16:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:16:11 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:16:10 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 17:16:10 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 653+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Dwight McKay Subject: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a? In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 8779;andrew.cmu.edu;Andrew C. Plotkin Received: from orac.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 19:31:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from orac.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 19:30:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.orac.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.orac.andrew.cmu.edu.pmax_ul4; Fri, 1 Apr 1994 19:30:28 -0500 (EST) ReSent-Message-ID: ReSent-Date: Fri, 1 Apr 1994 19:30:28 -0500 (EST) ReSent-From: "Andrew C. Plotkin" ReSent-To: Info-Andrew Return-path: From: Magnus Y Alvestad Date: Sat, 2 Apr 1994 02:27:24 +0200 Message-Id: <9404020027.AA06195@haukugle.ii.uib.no> To: "Andrew C. Plotkin" In-Reply-To: "Andrew C. Plotkin"'s message of Mon, 28 Mar 1994 20:21:59 -0500 Subject: Andrew Consortium home page (WWW) Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no X-Charset: LATIN1 X-Char-Esc: 29 Is anyone working on porting Andrew to the DEC Alpha? -Magnus Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 09:40:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 09:39:35 -0400 (EDT) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 09:37:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de (methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de [130.133.2.81]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA06465 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 09:36:55 -0400 Received: by methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from dobag.in-berlin.de with uucp id ; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:36 MES Received: by dobag.in-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0pnood-0000vxC; Mon, 4 Apr 94 15:35 MET DST Message-Id: From: lumpi@dobag.in-berlin.de (Joern Lubkoll) Subject: Problems compiling auis-6.2 on sun4c sunos 4.1.2 To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 15:35:46 +0200 (MET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 559 Hi, the build i'm trying to do fails in auis-6.2/atk/basics/common with: /usr/andrew/bin/doindex region.do doindex: indexing region.do ...doload: Error loading package "./region.do" - ld.so: conflicting usage of dlopen'ed dependents doindex: NULL entrypoint from region.do...program terminated! any help would be much appreshiated i haven't looked in the faq yet. jl -- How could she ever understand that there isn't any way I could be disappointed since I no longer find anything worth looking forward to ? "American Psycho", Brett Easton Ellis Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:17:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:17:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <4hc2yFi00gjO9=tUps@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 11:17:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan To: Info-Andrew , lumpi@dobag.in-berlin.de (Joern Lubkoll) Subject: Re: Problems compiling auis-6.2 on sun4c sunos 4.1.2 In-Reply-To: References: Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 4-Apr-94 Problems compiling auis-6.2.. Joern Lubkoll@dobag.in-b (559*) > the build i'm trying to do fails in > auis-6.2/atk/basics/common with: > /usr/andrew/bin/doindex region.do > doindex: indexing region.do ...doload: Error loading package > "./region.do" - ld.so: conflicting usage of dlopen'ed dependents > doindex: NULL entrypoint from region.do...program terminated! > any help would be much appreshiated This is a known problem in the current release. A patch release is expected this week which will include a fix. The best temporary work around is to execute the following in atk/basics/common, and then atk/basics/x: make XLIB='-Bstatic $(XLIBDIR)/libX11.a -Bdynamic' Then cd back to the top of the source tree and do a 'make dependInstall' -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:27:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from gimli.bio.purdue.edu (gimli.bio.purdue.edu [128.210.18.10]) by po2.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id OAA16274; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:27:48 -0400 Received: by gimli.bio.purdue.edu id AA19255 (5.65b/IDA-1.4.3 for rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu); Mon, 4 Apr 94 13:27:46 -0500 Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.gimli.bio.purdue.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.gimli.bio.purdue.edu.pmax_ul4; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:27:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 13:27:41 -0500 (EST) From: Dwight McKay X-Andrew-Message-Size: 639+1 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew , Robert Andrew Ryan Subject: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a? In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:48:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:45:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from uu3.psi.com (uu3.psi.com [38.145.250.2]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id OAA25275; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:45:34 -0400 Received: from porsche.visix.com by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA04396 for rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:45:29 -0400 Received: from esprit.visix.com by porsche.visix.COM (4.1/Visix Software Rev 2.0) id AA20855; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:45:28 EDT Received: by esprit.visix.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04050; Mon, 4 Apr 94 14:45:39 EDT Received: from VUI.Andrew.3.70.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.esprit.visix.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.esprit.visix.com.sun4_41; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 14:45:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Gary Keim To: Info-Andrew , Robert Andrew Ryan , Dwight McKay Subject: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a? Cc: In-Reply-To: References: >> BTW: the "image" inset is neat Yes, but when you're using older versions of AUIS, messages behaves badly when it can't dynamically load the class that is called for. It should probably just display the raw datastream in this case. Gary Keim Visix Software Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:56:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:54:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [192.239.48.4]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id RAA06314 for ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 17:54:48 -0400 Received: from RCHLAND by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9179; Mon, 04 Apr 94 17:53:55 EDT Reply-To: "Todd Inglett" Received: by po1 (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.7) id for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:48:50 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:48:49 -0500 (CDT) Received: from q.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:48:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from q.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:48:16 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.q.rchland.ibm.com.rs.aix32 via MS.5.6.q.rchland.ibm.com.rs_aix32; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:48:16 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 16:48:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Todd Inglett X-Andrew-Message-Size: 542+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a? In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:55:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:54:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:54:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:53:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 18:53:56 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 648+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a? In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 6703;pitt.edu;James Ralston Crawford Received: from pitt.edu via trymail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:33:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emerald.cis.pitt.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:31:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emerald.cis.pitt.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.emerald.cis.pitt.edu.pmax.ul4 via MS.5.6.emerald.cis.pitt.edu.pmax_ul4; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:25:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0hc_7BS8XfwJ4Rb0tr@pitt.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:25:01 -0400 (EDT) From: James Ralston Crawford X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1603+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Gary Keim Subject: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a? CC: Info-Andrew , Robert Andrew Ryan , Dwight McKay In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 21:02:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 21:01:13 -0400 (EDT) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:59:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:59:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:59:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0hc=TiG00gjO5993B0@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 20:59:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 1434+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew , James Ralston Crawford Subject: Unknown insets (was: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a?) In-Reply-To: <0hc_7BS8XfwJ4Rb0tr@pitt.edu> References: <0hc_7BS8XfwJ4Rb0tr@pitt.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 22:17:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 22:15:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from alpha.xerox.com (alpha.Xerox.COM [13.1.64.93]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id WAA17377; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 22:14:46 -0400 Received: from holmes.parc.xerox.com ([13.1.100.162]) by alpha.xerox.com with SMTP id <14440(2)>; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:14:12 PDT Received: by holmes.parc.xerox.com id <16135>; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:14:17 -0700 Received: from Messages.7.15.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4.41 via MS.5.6.holmes.parc.xerox.com.sun4_41; Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:14:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8hcAZhgB0KGWJ4wkYU@holmes.parc.xerox.com> Date: Mon, 4 Apr 1994 19:14:05 PDT Sender: Bill Janssen From: Bill Janssen To: Info-Andrew , James Ralston Crawford , Robert Andrew Ryan Subject: Re: Unknown insets (was: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a?) In-Reply-To: <0hc=TiG00gjO5993B0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <0hc_7BS8XfwJ4Rb0tr@pitt.edu> <0hc=TiG00gjO5993B0@andrew.cmu.edu> Yep. Dwight McKay's message reliably crashes my (old) version of messages every time I try to look at it. Sigh. Bill Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:32:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lsr.nei.nih.gov (lsr.nei.nih.gov [128.231.132.2]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA12160 for ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 11:26:10 -0400 Received: from lsr (lsr-vax.nei.nih.gov) by lsr.nei.nih.gov (4.1/1.35(leaf-1.0)) id AA19488; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:33:59 EDT Received: by lsr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07182; Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:24:35 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Apr 94 11:24:35 EDT From: ejf@lsr.nei.nih.gov (Ed FitzGibbon - MEG) Message-Id: <9404051524.AA07182@lsr> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Font problems I just compiled and installed auis-6.2 on an SGI iris running IRIX 4.05. I am very impressed ! I am having some minor problems that I don't know how to fix. When running eq (the equation editor) if I try to do a fraction the / line is composed of xxxxx's i.e. a+b xxxxx c+d Also when running some of the demos and examples the "thumb wheel" appears as a letter. Also the "ITC" logo appears as a letter. The same things happen when I run the remote demo from CMU. Can you help me ? I assume that either icons or fonts are not properly installed or pointed at correctly. Thanks, Ed FitzGibbon (ejf@lsr.nei.nih.gov) Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:19:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:15:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:14:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:14:32 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <8hcOe8q00gjOFpnH9y@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Apr 1994 14:14:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan To: Info-Andrew , ejf@lsr.nei.nih.gov (Ed FitzGibbon - MEG) Subject: Re: Font problems In-Reply-To: <9404051524.AA07182@lsr> References: <9404051524.AA07182@lsr> Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 5-Apr-94 Font problems Ed FitzGibbon - MEG@lsr. (681) > I am having some minor problems that I don't know > how to fix. When running eq (the equation editor) > if I try to do a fraction the / line is composed of > xxxxx's i.e. a+b > xxxxx > c+d Odd, this would seem to indicate that the sym* fonts fron atk/eq were not installed properly. What does xlsfonts|grep sym display? Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 5-Apr-94 Font problems Ed FitzGibbon - MEG@lsr. (681) > Also when running some of the demos and examples > the "thumb wheel" appears as a letter. Also the > "ITC" logo appears as a letter. These are the values25 and icon12 fonts respectively. It may be that there is some feature of these fonts which your X server doesn't like. First check is to see if xlsfonts reports them, if it doesn't check that they are installed in $ANDREWDIR/X11fonts. If the fonts are installed in $ANDREWDIR/X11fonts you may want to edit your site.h file to switch from installing pcf, or bdf fonts to snf. (Or vice-versa, see the top level README or email me for more information.) -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:02:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 19:02:15 -0400 (EDT) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:59:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from research.att.com (ninet.research.att.com [192.20.225.3]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with SMTP id SAA09841 for ; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:58:43 -0400 Received: by research.att.com; Wed Apr 6 18:54 EDT 1994 Received: from gargoyle.UUCP by allegra.tempo.att.com; id AA23002; Wed, 6 Apr 94 18:54:47 EDT Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.gargoyle.tempo.att.com..sun4.4 1 via MS.5.6.gargoyle.tempo.att.com..sun4_41; Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:54:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <0hcnqqP02mCPB4nM1i@gargoyle.tempo.att.com.> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 1994 18:54:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Schell Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Andrew on SGI Irix 5.2? Has anyone built the latest Andrew on SGI Irix 5.2 yet? Or on 5.x at all? I'm about to do this and it would be nice to know if I should anticipate any major problems. Thanks, Bill Schell AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ bill@allegra.att.com Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:29:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:26:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:24:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:24:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 01:24:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan To: Info-Andrew , Bill Schell Subject: Re: Andrew on SGI Irix 5.2? In-Reply-To: <0hcnqqP02mCPB4nM1i@gargoyle.tempo.att.com.> References: <0hcnqqP02mCPB4nM1i@gargoyle.tempo.att.com.> Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 6-Apr-94 Andrew on SGI Irix 5.2? Bill Schell@allegra.att. (245*) > Has anyone built the latest Andrew on SGI Irix 5.2 yet? Or on 5.x at all? > I'm about to do this and it would be nice to know if I should anticipate > any major problems. I re-ported and tested under Irix 4.05 if I recall correctly. (Pretty sure it was 4.?) I'm don't recall hearing about anyone else building AUIS on an SGI. -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:56:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:53:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lsr.nei.nih.gov (lsr.nei.nih.gov [128.231.132.2]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA13703 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 11:52:46 -0400 Received: from lsr (lsr-vax.nei.nih.gov) by lsr.nei.nih.gov (4.1/1.35(leaf-1.0)) id AA23152; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:57:30 EDT Received: by lsr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27642; Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:48:04 EDT Date: Thu, 7 Apr 94 11:48:04 EDT From: ejf@lsr.nei.nih.gov (Ed FitzGibbon - MEG) Message-Id: <9404071548.AA27642@lsr> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Dear Sir: I recently compiled AUIS-6.2 for the SGI Iris 4D and am enjoying it very much. I have 2 questions. One is if there is a system like "refer" for making bibliographies in the andrew system. I currently use troff with refer and a refer database. Or can refer be used with ez ? Secondly I am having problems installing champ (in the contrib directory). Although the dynamic object files seem compile and end up in /usr/andrew/dlib/atk (champ.do, chimp.do, etc.) only chump ends up in the /usr/andrew/bin directory, and no file named "champ" or "chimp" (or symbolic links to runapp with these names). Is there a problem on the SGI with champ ? Thank you. Ed FitzGibbon (ejf@lsr.nei.nih.gov) Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:31:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:26:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:26:36 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 12:26:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan To: Info-Andrew , ejf@lsr.nei.nih.gov (Ed FitzGibbon - MEG) Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <9404071548.AA27642@lsr> References: <9404071548.AA27642@lsr> Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 7-Apr-94 Ed FitzGibbon - MEG@lsr. (707) > One is if there is > a system like "refer" for making bibliographies in the andrew > system. I currently use troff with refer and a refer database. > Or can refer be used with ez ? I'm not sure. Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 7-Apr-94 Ed FitzGibbon - MEG@lsr. (707) > Secondly I am having problems > installing champ (in the contrib directory). Although the > dynamic object files seem compile and end up in /usr/andrew/dlib/atk > (champ.do, chimp.do, etc.) only chump ends up in the /usr/andrew/bin > directory, and no file named "champ" or "chimp" (or symbolic links > to runapp with these names). Is there a problem on the SGI with > champ ? There is no problem I know of. Champ and Chimp (and month) are all designed to be used as insets or documents. Thus you use them by using esc-tab chomp (or month), or using a addfiletype .champ chimp in your .ezinit. See help on Chimp and Champ for more information. -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:39:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:36:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MIT.EDU (ATHENA-AS-WELL.MIT.EDU [18.72.1.1]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with SMTP id OAA23143 for ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:36:29 -0400 Received: from HANTA-YO.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA15097; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:36:22 EDT Received: by hanta-yo.MIT.EDU (5.0/4.7) id AA07572; Thu, 7 Apr 94 14:36:20 EDT Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.hanta.yo.sun4.51 via MS.5.6.hanta-yo.sun4_51; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:36:19 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <0hd5_X0GgE6e0RVJ40@mit.edu> Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 14:36:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Cattey To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu, ejf@lsr.nei.nih.gov (Ed FitzGibbon - MEG) Subject: Re: In-Reply-To: <9404071548.AA27642@lsr> References: <9404071548.AA27642@lsr> Content-Length: 210 A student here at MIT started working on a bibleography object but ran out of time before completing the project. Is there someone out there in AUIS land who is interested in continuing the project? -wdc Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:29:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:29:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:28:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:28:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 3545+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Unknown insets (was: Re: console on DECstations under Ultrix 4.2a?) CC: James Ralston Crawford In-Reply-To: <0hc=TiG00gjO5993B0@andrew.cmu.edu> References: <0hc_7BS8XfwJ4Rb0tr@pitt.edu> <0hc=TiG00gjO5993B0@andrew.cmu.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 17:02:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 17:02:05 -0400 (EDT) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:59:05 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:57:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:57:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 7 Apr 1994 16:57:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan X-Andrew-Message-Size: 281+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 To: Info-Andrew Subject: SafetyNet (Workaround for unknown insets in AUIS 5.1) In-Reply-To: References: <0hc_7BS8XfwJ4Rb0tr@pitt.edu> <0hc=TiG00gjO5993B0@andrew.cmu.edu> Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:30:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:24:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cunegonde.act.ulaval.ca (cunegonde.act.ulaval.ca [132.203.22.115]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with SMTP id JAA06139 for ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 09:24:40 -0400 Date: Mon, 11 Apr 94 09:23:38 EDT From: Michel Jacques Message-Id: <9404111323.AA20510@cunegonde.act.ulaval.ca> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: andrew on SunOs 4.1.3 Hello! I tried to install andrew on SunOs 4.1.3 and ran into the problems discussed on Usenet. I tried the solutions proposed there and still, it does not work: -if I add resolv libraries (with Bstatic), I get a message like: libresolv.so.0 not found -if I don't, I get a message like: ln.so: __lib_version: undefined symbol Any clue? (Or, is the patch out?) Thanks in advance, Michel Jacques Ecole d'actuariat Universite Laval Quebec CANADA G1K 7P4 (418) 656 3033 Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:44:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:39:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from LOAN2.SP.CS.CMU.EDU (LOAN2.SP.CS.CMU.EDU [128.2.205.115]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with SMTP id NAA21761; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:39:49 -0400 Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.LOAN2.SP.CS.CMU.EDU.pmax.mach via MS.5.6.LOAN2.SP.CS.CMU.EDU.pmax_mach; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:39:12 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 13:39:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Wilfred.Hansen@cs.cmu.edu To: Info-Andrew , Outbound News , Outbound News , Outbound News Subject: Bison-A2.2 for C and C++ NEW. IMPROVED. SUPER-DUPER. ===> Bison-A2.2 Some of you have asked for Bison generation of C++ parsers. Some have asked for technology to permit multiple parsers in a single application. A few heretics have wanted a non-GPL parser. All of you can now use Bison-A2.2, available from the Andrew Consortium. See URL: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/AUIS/bison/ (That is, anonymous ftp from host ftp.andrew.cmu.edu (ip address: 128.2.35.66) in directory pub/AUIS/bison/.) Fred Hansen Here is an extract from the README in that directory: ========================================================= 9 April 1994 Bison version A2.2 Wilfred J. Hansen Dirctor, Andrew Consortium School of Computer Science Carnegie Mellon wjh+@cmu.edu Bison is the GNU parser generator; an alternative to yacc. This directory contains Bison version A2.2, derived from GNU Bison version 1.22. It also includes parser generators for C and C++ which have these advantages No symbol conflicts. Each parser is represented by a single name. Shared parser code. All grammars use a single instance of the parser object code. C++ object. For C++, the generated parser is an object. Utilize it with GrammarName *grammar = new GrammarName; License free. The license on the parser code permits effectively unhindered use. Bison-A2.2 has these advantages over other versions of Bison: Errors in the grammar do not terminate input; all errors are found in one pass. A complete example and test case is the file mess.y in the distribution. Tokens may now be specified as multiple-character strings: "<=" can appear where formerly would have to be LESSEQ. The -n switch produces the parser tables without including the parser; a project can now use its own parser and avoid the GNU license for the resulting application. (The parser and C++ packages do this also, but differently.) The Andrew User Interface System (AUIS) includes a lexical analyzer generator--gentlex--tailored to this version of bison. This directory contains bison-A2.2 - sources in ASCII. See bison.texinfo. mkparser - license-free parser for C. See parser.doc. C++parser - license-free parser for C++. See parserclass.doc. bison-A2.2.tar.gz - all the above, tarred and gzipped. Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 38;andrew.cmu.edu;Susan Straub Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:17:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:14:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:12:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:12:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu.rt.aos 4 via MS.5.6.emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu.rt_aos4; Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:12:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 11 Apr 1994 16:12:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Susan Straub To: Info-Andrew , outnews+netnews.comp.windows.x.announce@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: AUIS Patch 6.2.1 Dear AUIS User, Release 6.2.1 of the Andrew User Interface System is now available. Only users with Sun OS 4.1.* and Solaris systems should pick up this patch. It also fixes a number of minor bugs found in release 6.2 but breaks on non-Sun systems. We feel that the number of problems fixed for Sun machines is a compelling enough reason to release this patch now. Another patch which will be generally applicable will be made available prior to the X11R6 contrib release. patch-6.2.1.tar.Z is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu (IP 128.2.35.66) in the pub/AUIS/patches directory. To apply, cd to the top of your source tree and issue the following commands: uncompress < patch-6.2.1.tar.Z | tar -xvf - patch -p < patch.6.2.1 Several new files are introduced as well as moving the /atk/syntax/bison directory to /overhead/bison. Problems? Please send any comments or bug reports to info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu. Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 13:58:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 13:53:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from ucsd.edu (ucsd.edu [132.239.254.201]) by po5.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.4) with ESMTP id NAA19718 for ; Tue, 12 Apr 1994 13:53:30 -0400 Received: from oba.UCSD.EDU by ucsd.edu; id KAA18478 sendmail 8.6.8.1/UCSD-2.2-sun via SMTP Tue, 12 Apr 1994 10:53:27 -0700 for Received: by oba.UCSD.EDU (4.1/UCSDGENERIC.3) id AA09116 to info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu; Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:53:41 PDT Date: Tue, 12 Apr 94 10:53:41 PDT From: mstankus@oba.UCSD.EDU (Mark Stankus) Message-Id: <9404121753.AA09116@oba.UCSD.EDU> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: subscribe Please subscribe me. 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Thanks. e-mail: ff1golum@califa.uco.es Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:40:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po6.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:36:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:35:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:35:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:35:16 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-Message-ID: ReSent-Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:35:16 -0400 (EDT) ReSent-From: Robert Andrew Ryan ReSent-To: Info-Andrew Return-path: Message-ID: From: urban@cobra.jpl.nasa.gov Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 08:31:24 -0700 To: rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Re: A bunch of questions about AUIS-6.2 Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.andrew In-Reply-To: References: <2oeb97$gb1@info.epfl.ch> Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, California Cc: (I would have posted this, but the JPL news server's disk is full) In article you write: >Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 12-Apr-94 A bunch of >questions about .. Claude Lecommandeur@slhp (3773) >> 3 - Is there any plan (or is it possible right now) to produce html with ez ? >> >A very rough html inset was included in 6.2, but it failed to compile >due to blunders made here. 6.3 will hopefully include a much better >version, though we can't promise that. > Actually, our purposes would be well suited by an EZ template that only produced markup corresponding to HTML markup, plus a separate filter that would turn the ATK markup into HTML. Do you know if such a thing might be lying around somewhere? Mike Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:45:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:38:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:38:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:38:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 11:38:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan To: urban@cobra.jpl.nasa.gov Subject: Re: A bunch of questions about AUIS-6.2 CC: Info-Andrew In-Reply-To: References: <2oeb97$gb1@info.epfl.ch> I've resent your message to info-andrew. Excerpts from mail: 13-Apr-94 Re: A bunch of questions ab.. urban@cobra.jpl.nasa.gov (766) > Actually, our purposes would be well suited by an EZ template that > only produced markup corresponding to HTML markup, plus a separate filter > that would turn the ATK markup into HTML. Do you know if such a thing > might be lying around somewhere? I haven't heard about anything like this, it certainly doesn't sound like it would be difficult. Such a filter could probably be written in Ness fairly easily. -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 12:38:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 12:36:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from punch.ic.ac.uk (punch.ic.ac.uk [155.198.5.4]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA18381 for ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 12:36:32 -0400 Received: from cvcmgag1.cv.ic.ac.uk by punch.ic.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <29327-0@punch.ic.ac.uk>; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 17:30:20 +0100 Received: from drais by cvcmga.cv.ic.ac.uk (920330.SGI/4.0) id AA20366; Wed, 13 Apr 94 17:39:26 +0100 Date: Wed, 13 Apr 94 17:29:46 +0100 Message-Id: <19212.9404131629@drais.cv.ic.ac.uk> To: Andrew Mailing List Subject: Installation on SGI IRIX 4.0.5H From: Martin Tasker Reply-To: m.tasker@ic.ac.uk Hi Andrew peoples, I am interested in andrew for its drawing capabilities on Unix. I have an SGI Irix 4.0.5H system and can't install it. First attempt: followed the "instructions for the impatient", issued the two make commands suggested; waited while lots of compilations happened but it eventually stopped during some processing to do with 'doindex', with a 'no such file or directory' error - not clear what file or directory it was looking for. Second attempt: went through things more carefully, altered the files suggested in the installation notes for SGI further down in the README, but eventually the same thing happened. One thing that bugs me is, _where_ do I specify that my machine is sgi_d4? I presume it doesn't find this out automatically, but can't find anywhere where I'm supposed to define this fact. Any help greatly appreciated - or, alternatively, pointers to free X drawing packages that can produce (at least) both bit-map and encapsulated PostScript output. Thanks, - Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mar tin Tasker Telephone number changes 29 Apr 94 Research Associate to +44(0)171-594-6088 Centre for Transport Studies e-mail: m.tasker@ic.ac.uk Department of Civil Engineering tel: +44 (0)71-589-5111 x 4879 Imperial College, London SW7 2AZ fax: +44 (0)71-823-7659 Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 5904;andrew.cmu.edu;Robert Andrew Ryan Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:20:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:16:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:16:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from atk.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.atk.itc.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Apr 1994 14:16:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Andrew Ryan To: Info-Andrew , m.tasker@ic.ac.uk Subject: Re: Installation on SGI IRIX 4.0.5H In-Reply-To: <19212.9404131629@drais.cv.ic.ac.uk> References: <19212.9404131629@drais.cv.ic.ac.uk> Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 13-Apr-94 Installation on SGI IRIX 4... Martin Tasker@ic.ac.uk (1421) > One thing that bugs me is, _where_ do I specify that my machine is > sgi_d4? I presume it doesn't find this out automatically, but can't > find anywhere where I'm supposed to define this fact. Actually it should successfully detect this automatically. If there turns out to be a problem, you can edit /config/platform.tmpl to select the right section. Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 13-Apr-94 Installation on SGI IRIX 4... Martin Tasker@ic.ac.uk (1421) > First attempt: followed the "instructions for the impatient", issued the > two make commands suggested; waited while lots of compilations happened > but it eventually stopped during some processing to do with 'doindex', > with a 'no such file or directory' error - not clear what file or > directory it was looking for. It's probably looking for a .do file. The .do file may not exist for many reasons, the most common are: disk full or other disk IO problem (including down network or server for AFS or NFS) An unresolved symbol when linking the .o files into a .do file. A copy of the make long output from a command such as: For csh: make World>&world.log For sh: make World 2>world.log 1>world.log Also, make sure you have the AUIS 6.2 sources, 6.2.1 should NOT be needed and would probably fail. -Rob Ryan Andrew Consortium Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:21:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:21:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from VNET.IBM.COM (vnet.ibm.com [192.239.48.4]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA16446 for ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 12:21:18 -0400 Received: from RCHLAND by VNET.IBM.COM (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3147; Thu, 14 Apr 94 12:20:24 EDT Reply-To: "Jon Tollefson" Received: by po1 (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.7) id for info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:19:48 -0500 Received: via switchmail; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:19:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from skynet.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:19:45 -0500 (CDT) Received: from skynet.rchland.ibm.com via qmail ID ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:19:41 -0500 (CDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.skynet.rchland.ibm.com.rs.aix3 2 via MS.5.6.skynet.rchland.ibm.com.rs_aix32; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:19:41 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 11:19:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Jon Tollefson X-Andrew-Message-Size: 364+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Getting a window's geometry Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 38;andrew.cmu.edu;Susan Straub Received: from muffin.atk.cs.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:40:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from muffin.atk.cs.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:24:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.muffin.atk.cs.cmu.edu.rs.aix31 via MS.5.6.muffin.atk.cs.cmu.edu.rs_aix3; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:24:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <0hfNVnm00ggBFcU6ZY@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 15:24:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Susan Straub To: +dist+/afs/andrew/usr0/ak99/dists/news.dl@andrew.cmu.edu, Info-Andrew , Outbound News , Outbound News , Outbound News Subject: The Andrew View, V.3 No. 1 [An Andrew ToolKit view (a raster image) was included here, but could not be displayed.] .sp -1.0i Andrew Consortium School of Computer Science Carnegie Mellon The Andrew View Volume 3, Number 1 April, 1994 The big news this month is our new public release ! AUIS Release 6.2 For members, the most interesting innovation may be the html editor mode. You can now edit html files and see them looking as nice as AUIS files. For non-members, innovations beyond release 5.1 include: prefed - preferences editor figure - drawing editor image - display embedded images bdffont - font editor AUIS is now supported on Telmat, Linux, Solaris, and SGI in addition to platforms from IBM, SPARCstation, HP, Dec, Apollo, and SCO. FTP We have a new ftp home in directory pub/AUIS on ftp.andrew.cmu.edu (ip address: 128.2.35.66). See the README file for details. WWW View us on the World Wide Web at URL (all one line): http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/atk-ftp/web/andrew-home.html _____________________________________________ Contents My Own View - Fred Hansen Andrew Technical Conference and Annual Meeting New and Revised Features in Version 6.2 AUIS Release 6.2.1 The "unknown" inset: an upgrade for AUIS 5.1 - Rob Ryan Projects in Progress Whither Troff Printing? - Andy Plotkin Proposed Grant Levels 1994 Survey - Susan Straub Bison for C and C++ Rainbow - David Sklar, Electronic Book Technologies _____________________________________________ My Own View Wilfred J. Hansen, Director When you consider that AUIS is a million lines of code in over 5000 files, you might think it a miracle that the whole thing ever compiles on any platform. Well, it compiles--really, it does! Our own platforms, however, are only a minority of all the platforms we support. A number of kind people have built the 6.2 release on other platforms and reported problems. The result is the new patch, 6.2.1 for Sun platforms, as reported below. There will be at least one further release of AUIS 6, numbered release 6.3. It will come out with the contributed section of X Windows System V11R6 in June and will be the last AUIS release in C. Subsequent releases will be in C++ and numbered 7.1 and higher. At SIGCHI (April 24-28, 1994, Boston, Massachusetts) I will present a tutorial entitled "Introduction to User Interface Systems for HCI Developers and Researchers". This will discuss the Human-Computer Interface challenges and opportunities of user interface systems like AUIS, Fresco, OLE from MicroSoft, and OpenDoc originally from Apple and now from the Component Integration Laboratory. These systems offer the challenge of defining user interface schemes that extend across a wide spread of applications; they offer the opportunity to conveniently capture user interactions in order to study user behavior. I'll repeat the systems comparisons portions of the tutorial at Xhibition in San Jose (June 21-23) and at the Andrew Technical Conference (Pittsburgh, 1 July). _____________________________________________ Andrew Technical Conference and Annual Meeting The Andrew Technical Conference this year is scheduled for Friday, July 1 The Annual Meeting of the Consortium will be held during and after lunch. As part of the Conference, Fred Hansen will present the tutorial he has been preparing on the various alternatives available to AUIS: OLE, OpenDoc, Fresco, and so on. If you have a paper you would like to present, please contact Fred Hansen (wjh+@cmu.edu, (412) 268-6788). As part of the annual meeting, we discuss future directions for development of AUIS. These discussions drive the work of the Consortium staff for the year ahead. If you have any suggestions as to directions we should take, please send email to Fred Hansen at the address above. _____________________________________________ New and Revised Features in Version 6.2 AUIS users everywhere can now receive Release 6.2 of AUIS. The full set of changes between 6.2 and 5.1, the previous public release, is given as the file Changes (or Changes.ez in AUIS format) in directory pub/AUIS of our new ftp host: ftp.andrew.cmu.edu For members, here are the changes from 6.1 to 6.2. Everywhere Fixed bugs, coreleaks, and copyrights. More posixification. AUIS code is posix, but utilizes some BSD extensions. - Straightened everything out so colors can be destroyed without leaving dangling pointers anywhere. - Fixed event queue so events are not lost. This means the clock will not stop. - Revised ATK text data stream slightly so whitespace is treated better when text is converted to ASCII. - Fixed ez so that ^G to the initial file prompt will provide a scratch buffer. Platforms AUIS is now supported on the following new platforms (the names with underscores are the subdirectory of the config directory in the source). Linux (i386_Linux) Telmat (telmat_svr4) Solaris (sun4_51) In addition, support for SGI machines has been fixed: SGI (sgi_4d) We have tested the system on these additional platforms pmax_mach pmax_ul4 rs_aix3 sun4_mach sun4_41 hp700_80 The following platforms are included in the release, but have not been tested apollo68k hp300_80 hp800_80 i386_mach mac2_51 next_mach20 pmax_3 pmax_41 ps_aix12 rt_aix221 rt_aos4 rt_mach sco_i386 sun3_35 sun3_4 sun3_41 sun4_40 vax_3 vax_43 Applications and Objects Changed background colors in scollbars, dialogs, sbuttons, menubars, and Motif-style popups. (Can be turned off by setting preference UseNewShadows to No.) Updated text to work with Ispell 4.0. Ness has been revised throughout so that very general filenames can be used, including $XXX to access environment values. Files for execution are sought in the directories listed in the nesspath preference. Ness's launchapplication function can now launch applications that are objects other than text. HTML editor mode has been added in ./contrib/srctext/html. Files can be saved in html format and edited in ez as formatted text; the reader need not look at embedded html formatting tags. To enable this, the contrib directory must be built and installed and then a line like addfiletype .html html added to ~/.ezinit. (For instructions on the latter, say `help initfiles`.) Translation between AUIS format and RTF. The source files contrib/mit/2rtf/* and contrib/mit/rtf2/* are installed as the applications 2rtf and rtf2; these convert, respectively, from AUIS to RTF and from RTF to AUIS. (Sometimes, conversion from RTF to AUIS is better done with the ness program fromrtf.n. See src:atk/ness/nesslib/fromrtf.n or $ANDREWDIR/lib/ness/fromtrt.n.) New facilities The Andrew logo is available as an icon in src:./overhead/xicons/alog.icon. Support has been added for translating menu items and message line messages into other languages. This is enabled by setting the TranslateMenus preference to On, in which case, menu titles and items are translated according to the ANDREWLANGUAGE database. Documentation and example files for this mechanism are unavailable. (This feature is used primarily by the port to the Telmat platform.) All the srctext insets such as the C and C++ modes now understand dogtags. See atk/srctext/dogtags.help (or help dogtags) for more information. When porting the system to a new platform, it has been necessary to write an assembler routine, entry.spp. This can now be avoided by defining CLASS_CTRAMPOLINE_ENV as 1 in system.h for the platform. _____________________________________________ AUIS Release 6.2.1 Release 6.2.1 of the Andrew User Interface System is now available as a patch to release 6.2. If you already have 6.2, we recommend that you pick up 6.2.1 only for Sun OS 4.1.* and Sun Solaris. It fixes a number of minor bugs found in release 6.2 but breaks on non-Sun systems. Another patch which will be generally applicable will be made available soon. The patch is available as file patch-6.2.1.tar.Z via anonymous ftp from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu (IP 128.2.35.66) in the pub/AUIS/patches directory. This patch introduces several new files as well as moving the /atk/syntax/bison directory to /overhead/bison. It utilizes the new parsing technology described in the Bison article below. _____________________________________________ The "unknown" inset: an upgrade for AUIS 5.1 Rob Ryan When AUIS release 5.1 encounters a file create with release 6.xx containing new insets, problems will occur, possibly including core dumps. Ideally, you will avoid this problem by upgrading to AUIS 6.2.1 or some later system, but if you would rather not, you can install the "unknown" inset. (NOTE: This is only for 5.1.) The "unknown" inset distribution introduces proxy insets having the same names as the new insets, but functioning only enough to inform the user that the inset is not supported. This package is available for anonymous ftp from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in directory pub/AUIS/5.1-SafetyNet. _____________________________________________ Projects in Progress The Consortium staff is at work on three major projects undertaken in response to past annual meetings. C++. The port to C++ is largely complete, including complete plans for dynamic loading; but the latter is still pending implementation. Progress is on hold this month while we complete release of version 6.2. We expect to make a complete release of the C++ version later this year. Printing. In the C++ release, text and many other objects now print directly to postscript. Many niceties remain to be added, but the new printing facility should be ready for the C++ release. Widgets. Work on the C++ version has occupied more resources than we had hoped. (It was never actually scheduled at an Annual meeting.) The result has been complete slippage of the widgets project. We have some exciting concepts, but have not made implementation progress. WorldWideWeb. In our first issue of last year, the Andrew View reported on the WorldWideWeb. In the last few months usage and contents on this web have shown phenomenal growth (in the range of 70,000 percent at one point). We are working toward closer integration of AUIS into the WWW environment, having made a start by creating our own home page, as noted above. Two AUIS projects are related: Nick Williams of the Systems Architecture Research Center in London has created htmltext, a source text editor which simplifies construction of files in the HTML format utilized on the WWW. An early version of this package is in AUIS 6.2; more recent versions are available for anonymous FTP from ftp.cs.city.ac.uk in directory pub/htmltext. Tom Neuendorffer, who created ADEW and many other Andrew components, has agreed to create an AUIS application which will serve as an interface to the WWW. This will have many advantages for AUIS users: familiar AUIS interaction: scrollbars, menus, window resizing, ... AUIS search operations copy / paste from HTML documents to AUIS documents open-ended - add your own operations Another desirable goal is creation of a "weblink" inset which works like the existing link inset, but can point to any WWW node. We also hope to create a WWW server which reads AUIS documents and delivers them across the web as HTML documents. _____________________________________________ Whither Troff Printing? Andy Plotkin As part of the development of the new PostScript printing system, I am considering the fate of all the troff-generating routines currently in place. There are three obvious possibilities: 1. Remove all the old printing routines, including the view::Print method. Ups: The source code and executables would only have one set of printing routines, which saves space. Ezprint would subsume the functionality of ez2ps. Downs: Troff output would no longer be available at all. 2. Put all of the printing code under cpp conditionals; say, #ifndef and #ifdef PSPRINTING_ENV. Ups: Sites could choose which method to use. Executables would have only one set of printing routines... Downs: ...but the source code would have both. Users would not be able to choose a printing method themselves. 3. Leave everything in place. The print::ProcessView function already accepts a flag which tells it whether to generate troff or generate PS output (using psdit); that mechanism could be altered to choose between the troff and PS printing routines. Ups: Users could invoke either printing method (probably by either a preference or different keybindings.) Downs: More source-code and executable bloat. Twice as much printing code for the Consortium to support. This decision will impact all Consortium members, since everyone uses printing (even people who don't use "impact" as a verb.) Please send us your thoughts, so that we can take your needs into account. _____________________________________________ Proposed Grant Levels The Andrew Consortium exists through the generosity of our members, who provide grants on our behalf. For the first three years we have had only three levels of membership--Full, Contributing, and Associate. In some cases these levels have not been appropriate; primarily in being beyond the means of small, start-up companies who might otherwise participate for mutual benefit. At the last Annual Meeting, it was proposed that a new grant structure be introduced offering a greater variety of levels. This note describes a proposed structure of categories. The idea is to fit existing members into one or another of these categories at a grant level no more than slightly higher than their current level. If you have suggestions about this proposal, please contact Fred Hansen (wjh+@cmu.edu, +1-412-268-6788.) The plan proposed below will be voted on at the annual meeting. Grant levels, expressed in $000's, depend on size of organization and class of membership. Size of organization. Organizations are classified as small, medium or large, depending on the type of organization. This section defines the size of a "medium" organization of each type. "Small" or "large" organizations are, respectively and perhaps not surprisingly, smaller or larger than medium organizations. Academic institution, medium size: 2000-10000 students Non-academic research organization, medium size: 8-40 researchers Commercial organization, in house use, medium size: 100-1000 users Commercial distributor, medium size: 1000-10000 customers Government, medium size: 200-2000 users Participating Members. A new grant level is proposed for organizations desiring direct involvement in AUIS development. Participating members have all the rights of full members and are also eligible to send staff to Carnegie Mellon where they can work side-by-side with the Consortium staff. In this way they can more immediately influence AUIS development, they can develop new software based on the latest version, and they can acquire the intimate understanding of the system which is only possible from immersion. Grant levels: 150, 300, 600. Full Members. These members have voting rights in consortium decisions and merit direct contact with Consortium staff. Grant levels: 45, 90, 180. Contributing Members. Contributing members have the right to specify particular code to be included in the AUIS distribution. This level of membership is also appropriate for organizations which depend on AUIS for their own work. Grant levels: 15, 30, 60. Associate Members. At this level, members establish a relationship with the consortium, and get access to the latest source. Grant levels: 0.5, 2, 5. _____________________________________________ 1994 Survey Susan Straub Once again we are polling the world to see how people are exploiting AUIS and to determine their needs. If you've not already filled out this survey, please take a few moments to complete the enclosed survey and return it to susan+@andrew.cmu.edu. We will share the results of the survey at the Annual Meeting. (It is not our intention to publish individual answers other than to quote comments; however, we are not taking cryptographic precautions and cannot guarantee the confidentiality of what you send us. If we've asked questions you'd rather not answer, please feel free to omit them from your reply.) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1994 Survey of Andrew User Interface System Users ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Name: Net address: Company/division/site location: Number of machines at site running AUIS: 1? 2-10? 10-100? 100-1000? over 1000? Number of AUIS users at site: 1? 2-10? 10-100? 100-1000? over 1000? Number of AUIS users at other sites for the same company? What system type(s) do you run AUIS on: Are you or anyone at your site using AUIS for: Mail, bulletin boards, news groups access? Document production User interface prototyping or development Other uses (please list) What additional service(s) would you like to see provided by the Andrew Consortium? Other comments: _____________________________________________ Bison for C and C++ Bison is the GNU parser generator; an alternative to yacc. To enhance AUIS portability, we have adapted Bison for all parsing requirements in AUIS 6.2.1. To avoid encumbering the entire source code with the license imposed by the Free Software Foundation, the adaptation removes the default Bison parser and installs an AUIS parser. The C++ version even creates a Class from the grammar. The package is available as a separate entity from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in directory pub/AUIS/bison. The parser generators have these advantages No symbol conflicts. Each parser is represented by a single name. Shared parser code. All grammars use a single instance of the parser object code. C++ object. For C++, the generated parser is an object. Utilize it with GrammarName *grammar = new GrammarName; License free. The license on the parser code permits effectively unhindered use. Bison-A2.2 has these advantages over other versions of Bison: Errors in the grammar do not terminate input; all errors are found in one pass. A complete example and test case is the file mess.y in the distribution. Tokens may now be specified as multiple-character strings: "<=" can appear where formerly would have to be LESSEQ. The -n switch produces the parser tables without including the parser; a project can now use its own parser and avoid the GNU license for the resulting application. (The AUIS C and C++ parsers do not actually use this switch.) AUIS also includes a lexical analyzer generator--gentlex in directory /atk/syntax/tlex--tailored to this version of bison. _____________________________________________ Rainbow Some Consortium members have expressed interest in adopting SGML. The following extract of a note on "Rainbow" describes one tool available for conversion from existing formats to some particular SGML/DTD. We could, for example, support conversion of AUIS documents to SGML via this path. (Howver, AUIS documents to a large degree already have the structure information descrbed below.) Or we could support conversion of other documents to AUIS via a pathway through SGML using these tools. If either of these efforts is of value, you should include it in your list of suggestions for the Annual Meeting, as noted above. Accelerating Conversion to SGML via the Rainbow Format David Sklar Director of Applications Electronic Book Technologies *** The Problem: Inefficiency in Conversion Efforts "Up conversion" -- the translation of a document from a proprietary word-processor (WP) format to an SGML document conforming to a useful DTD -- is one of the thorniest problems an organization faces when it adopts SGML. Up conversion is typically performed by building (or hiring a consultant to build) a custom conversion application via a translation-enabling tool like OmniMark, TagWrite, or FastTag. The conversion application typically involves two phases: 1) extraction and interpretation of the formatting codes in the WP format, and 2) identification of content and structure. The second phase is the most sophisticated one, for it involves creating something (structure and true content identification) from "nothing" (WP formats which are typically flat and lacking in content identification). A considerable amount of planning and thought is necessary for implementation of this phase, and it is almost always necessary to custom-build this phase for each organization. But the first phase -- extraction of the WP formatting codes -- is not very sophisticated, for it is simply a translation. The most difficult part of implementing this phase is becoming an expert in the proprietary WP format itself. .... How can we prevent organizations from redundantly implementing phase one? Imagine a world in which all up-conversion efforts start from a single stable, well-documented input format instead of a variety of unstable proprietary ones.... *** The Solution: Rainbow Electronic Book Technologies, in conjunction with several other key SGML vendors and promoters, has designed a format that is suitable for acting as the starting point for up-conversion efforts. We call that format "Rainbow", because it represents a unification of the wide spectrum of proprietary formats. The Rainbow format is actually an SGML DTD.... The Rainbow DTD is publicly available, and can be used and modified by organizations and individuals freely. An FTP server has been created to provide a forum for the distribution of Rainbow-related data, and a mailing list has been created to keep interested parties informed of Rainbow-related developments. To subscribe to the mailing list, send email to rainbow@ebt.com; you will receive a reply with specific information on how to access the FTP server. As described above, the primary purpose of Rainbow is to insulate up-conversion implementations from the dynamic and eccentric world of proprietary formats. Obviously, this noble idea is not practical unless the SGML community has easy access to "Rainbow Makers" (software programs designed to convert WP-format documents to Rainbow documents). It is our hope that members of the SGML community will share Rainbow Makers that the build, thus helping us eliminate redundant efforts. [EBT is making available Rainbow-Makers for RTF (Microsoft Word), MIF, Interleaf, and WordPerfect. Another vendor is doing one for the Ventura format.] _______________________________________ The Andrew User Interface System The Andrew User Interface System (AUIS) is a portable user-interface environment and toolkit that runs under X11. It provides a dynamically-loadable object-oriented environment wherein objects can be embedded in one-another. Thus, one could use our 'generic-object' editor (ez) to edit text that, in addition to containing multiple fonts, contains embedded raster images, spreadsheets, drawings, equations, simple animations, etc. These embedded objects may themselves contain other objects, including text. The release includes many objects, including those mentioned above, along with a help system, a system monitoring tool (console), an editor based shell interface (typescript). The underlying Andrew Toolkit architecture (ATK) supports cooperation between objects not only for screen display, but also for file storage, cut/paste across windows, an application construction environment, an extension language, and printing. There is full support for programmers to create new objects and new applications. The Andrew Message System(AMS) is a component of AUIS and provides a multi-media interface to mail and bulletin-boards. AMS contains many advanced features including authentication, return receipts, automatic sorting of mail, vote collection and tabulation, enclosures, audit trails of related messages, and subscription management. It also provides a variety of interfaces that support character-based terminals and low-function personal computers in addition to high-function workstations. Andrew has been successfully used on most platforms from these vendors: IBM, Sun, DEC, HP, SGI IRIX 4.0, Apollo, Macintosh II MacMach, 386/486 Mach, Linux, Telmat, Apollo, Mac2, Next, SCO I386. The following are components are available in version 6.2 and later versions. Some respond to frequently requested applications in X: word processor-ez, drawing editor-figure, mail and news reader-messages, font editor-bdffont, documentation browser-help, directory browser-bush, HTML editor-htmltext. AUIS editors that are both applications and insets eq - equation inset fad - animation editor figure - drawing editor layout - inset for arbitrary layout of enclosed insets lset - display two adjacent insets ness - extension and string processing language org - display and edit hierarchies page - allow flipping between pages raster - editor for monochrome bit-mapped images table - table / spreadsheet inset text - text, document, and program editor (the heart of ez and other applications) AUIS applications bush - directory browser chump - schedule maintainer console - shell interface / terminal replacement ez - word processor and program editor bdffont - font editor (for fonts in bdf format) help - documentation browser (includes all AUIS help files) launch - provides a menu of AUIS applications messages - mail and news reader, manager, and composer pipescript - viewer useful as stdout prefed - preferences editor sendmessage - application for sending a message or news posting typescript - shell interface (terminal substitute) Commonly used non-interactive AUIS applications datacat - concatenate AUIS files ezprint - print an AUIS document nessrun - runs a Ness script (the extension and string processing language) preview - preview an AUIS document on screen File format converters from AUIS to: RTF, ASCII, PostScript, troff to AUIS from: ppm, Scribe, RTF, troff, X window dump convertraster - various raster formats Embeddable insets not usually used as applications clock - analog clock eq - equations fad - rudimentary animations header - specify document headers and footers image - store and display images in JPEG, gif, tiff, and other formats link - hypertext-like link month - display a calendar for one month note - annotation text - the text object itself timeoday - digital clock writestamp - displays the time the file was written Editing tools compchar - type characters for European languages compile - support compilation and error review complete - filename completion for typescript dired - directory browser dsearch - dynamic search ezdiff - compare two ASCII files filter - process a region of a document through a shell command isearch - incremental search lookz - style table editor spell - spelling correction (uses ispell) Source text editing tools for assembler, C++, C, HTML, Lisp, man pages, Modula, Modula-3, Pascal Tools for constructing insets and applications arb - ADEW application builder interface bison, mkparser/parser - GNU parser generator (modified) class - preprocessor for AUIS's ClassC version of C createcon - ADEW tool to generate C code for interface createinset - create a prototypical inset under a new name genmake - Makefile generator for classC gentlex - lexical analyzer generator makedo, doindex, whichdo - create, store, and locate dynamically loadable objects runadew - ADEW application builder Additional insets available for building applications button, display text string, entry of labeled text string, four position switch, multiple buttons, multiple sliders, multiple string entry, on/off switch, slider, slider controlling array of strings, text list, thumb knob ______________________________________ Consortium Services and Offerings For information about services and offerings of the Andrew Toolkit Consortium please contact us at: Andrew Consortium School of Computer Science Carnegie Mellon University 5000 Forbes Avenue Pittsburgh, PA 15213; USA phone: +1-412-268-6710 email: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu We offer memberships at three levels: Full, Contributing, and Associate. We also can provide source tape, CDrom with both source and executables, bibliography, copies of papers, conference proceedings. AUIS sources and binaries are available online via anonymous ftp from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu (IP address is 128.2.35.66) in directory ./pub/AUIS. See the README there. Another ftp site is export.lcs.mit.edu in directory ./contrib/andrew; this is cloned on many servers, world-wide. On the nationwide AFS file system, AUIS is available in /afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/atk-ftp/. To try AUIS, use our Remote Andrew Demo service: finger help@atk.itc.cmu.edu (IP address is 128.2.203.218) News groups: Send subscription requests to info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu and submissions to info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu. This is a distribution list offering the news with full AUIS formatting; For a clone in plain ASCII, see news group comp.soft-sys.andrew. Send requests to info-andrew-requests@andrew.cmu.edu Bug reports to info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 91;andrew.cmu.edu;Tom Neuendorffer Received: from ardara.itc.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: from banjo.itc.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:20:31 -0400 (GMT) Received: from Messages.8.5.N.CUILIB.3.45.SNAP.NOT.LINKED.banjo.itc.cmu.edu.sun4c.411 via MS.5.6.banjo.itc.cmu.edu.sun4_41; Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:20:30 -0400 (GMT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Apr 1994 16:20:30 -0400 (GMT) From: Tom Neuendorffer X-Andrew-Message-Size: 541+0 Content-Type: X-BE2; 12 If-Type-Unsupported: send To: Info-Andrew Subject: Re: Getting a window's geometry In-Reply-To: References: Return-path: X-Andrew-Authenticated-as: 0;andrew.cmu.edu;Network-Mail Received: from po2.andrew.cmu.edu via trymail for info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu (->+dist+/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/ak99/dists/info-andrew-nostrip.dl) ID ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:34:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from po5.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:32:58 -0400 (EDT) If-Type-Unsupported: send Received: from po3.andrew.cmu.edu via qmail ID ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:29:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from vision.postech.ac.kr (vision.postech.ac.kr [141.223.1.2]) by po3.andrew.cmu.edu (8.6.7/8.6.6) with SMTP id SAA08472 for ; Fri, 15 Apr 1994 18:29:35 -0400 Received: from stella.postech.ac.kr (ailab.postech.ac.kr) by vision.postech.ac.kr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA11632; Sat, 16 Apr 94 07:21:58 KST Received: from kohonen.AIlab (kohonen.postech.ac.kr) by stella.postech.ac.kr (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA25268; Sat, 16 Apr 94 07:27:26 KST From: sekim@stella.postech.ac.kr (Sangeuk Kim) Message-Id: <9404152227.AA25268@stella.postech.ac.kr> Subject: Andrew and Solaris 2.1 To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Date: Sat, 16 Apr 1994 07:27:26 +0900 (KST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL21] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 647 Hi everyone, Is there anyone who succeeded in installing Andrew on Solaris 2.0 or 2.1 ? My solaris has X11R5. If you are one of them, I need your advice... What is needed in *.mcr and *.h ? Thanks in advance... --