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Oops, I should have been clearer in my side note about Solaris.  There were 
of course many other changes needed for Solaris, but given those changes 
removing the PICFLAG worked fine.


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Does anyone know of any reason why EVERY file in AUIS should be compiled 
with -pic under SunOS 4.1 (or Solaris for that matter)?  As far as I can 
tell only the files in overhead/class/lib and 
overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc_41 require -pic.


I have just started a clean build with -pic removed from everywhere bt 
overhead/class.  (initial tests suggest this will work.)


(Btw, after I completely abolished -k pic under Solaris the build and 
resulting binaries work fine.)


Thanks for any info,

-Rob Ryan

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Is there something I need to do in order to get console to receive the 
console messages?  I'm running AUIS 6.2 under Ultrix 4.2a using DECwindows 
(X11r4).  I get the following message in the console window on startup:


console:<make_socket> bind failed  ( 3:15:07 PM )

console:<OpenConsoleSocket> Incomplete error monitoring: bind to 
ConsoleSocket failed  ( 3:15:07 PM )


\magenta{--\red{Dwight D. McKay}, Purdue University, Department of 
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Hmm, it should be openning /dev/xcons to intercept console output.  Do you 
have read permission on this file?


It is also possible that you will need to change 
auis-6.2/atk/console/lib/sitevars.h to include:


#define _SITE_INTERCEPT "/dev/xcons"


(currently it is #ifdef'd on vax and MIPSEL, which I believe does include 
the decstation running ultrix.)


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Consortium

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Is anyone working on porting Andrew to the DEC Alpha?

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Hi,

the build i'm trying to do fails in

auis-6.2/atk/basics/common with:

/usr/andrew/bin/doindex region.do
doindex: indexing region.do ...doload: Error loading package "./region.do" - ld.so: conflicting usage of dlopen'ed dependents
doindex: NULL entrypoint from region.do...program terminated!

any help would be much appreshiated

i haven't looked in the faq yet.

jl

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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 4-Apr-94 Problems compiling
auis-6.2.. Joern Lubkoll@dobag.in-b (559*)

> the build i'm trying to do fails in

> auis-6.2/atk/basics/common with:

> /usr/andrew/bin/doindex region.do
> doindex: indexing region.do ...doload: Error loading package
> "./region.do" - ld.so: conflicting usage of dlopen'ed dependents
> doindex: NULL entrypoint from region.do...program terminated!

> any help would be much appreshiated

This is a known problem in the current release.  A patch release is
expected this week which will include a fix.

The best temporary work around is to execute the following in
atk/basics/common, and then atk/basics/x:
make XLIB='-Bstatic $(XLIBDIR)/libX11.a -Bdynamic'

Then cd back to the top of the source tree and do a 'make dependInstall'

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from Mailing-Lists.info-andrew: 1-Apr-94 Re: 
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Ack!  I didn't have permission to read /dev/xcons.  Fixing the permission 
fixed the problem.


Thanks, Robert!


BTW: The "image" inset is NEAT!

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\quotation{It should probably just display the raw datastream in this case.

}
I've always thought that if text's Read can't create an instance of an
inset, it should create a note inset (or some footnote-style inset) and
dump the datastream into it.  That would be more elegant than dumping gobs
of datastream into the text--especially for insets containing lots of data,
but little on screen space such as images, audio and video.


-todd inglett

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\quotation{I've always thought that if text's Read can't create an instance 
of an inset, it should create a note inset (or some footnote-style inset) 
and dump the datastream into it.  That would be more elegant than dumping 
gobs of datastream into the text--especially for insets containing lots of 
data, but little on screen space such as images, audio and video.

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I agree wholeheartedly.  One of the things on my "eventual" queue is 
creating the "generic" inset for text to use so that it can read and save 
data it knows nothing about.


-Rob

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\quotation{>> BTW: the "image" inset is neat

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\quotation{Yes, but when you're using older versions of AUIS, messages behaves 
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	That's a rather major understatement.


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022.605535  7110 R lseek 8192/0x2000

022.605535  7110 C lseek ( 5, 0, 1 )

022.605535  7110 R lseek 8192/0x2000

022.617253  7110 C read ( 5, 0x121a68c, 8192/0x2000 )

022.648501  7110 R read 903 bytes: "1Pv3jTwjF4qsBfxlIbuGN9jSDcpGO49"

022.652407  7110 C read ( 5, 0x121a68c, 8192/0x2000 )

022.652407  7110 R read 0

022.656313  7110 C read ( 5, 0x121a68c, 8192/0x2000 )

022.656313  7110 R read 0

022.656313  7110 C read ( 5, 0x121a68c, 8192/0x2000 )

022.656313  7110 R read 0

[repeat ad infinitum]

}}
	Is there any way to stop older versions of the AUIS programs (messages, ez, 
and probably others) from going into an infinite loop every time they see 
something that they don't know how to deal with?  This is obnoxious.


	Regards,


James


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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 4-Apr-94 Re: 
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\quotation{022.656313  7110 C read ( 5, 0x121a68c, 8192/0x2000 )

}\quotation{022.656313  7110 R read 0

}\quotation{022.656313  7110 C read ( 5, 0x121a68c, 8192/0x2000 )

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The results are usually less drastic on most architectures.

\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 4-Apr-94 Re: 
console on DECstations .. James R. Crawford@pitt.e (1603+0)}


\quotation{	Is there any way to stop older versions of the AUIS programs 
(messages, ez, and probably others) from going into an infinite loop every 
time they see something that they don't know how to deal with?}


It probably won't be every time, but it is definitely obnoxious.  I have 
forwarded your message to our bugs list.  We will certainly try to  fix 
this bug for 6.3.  I hope that we will be able to develop a mini-release of 
5.1 which includes just enough to rebuild runapp and text.do to fix this 
bug.  This is clearly an important problem as more sites pick up AUIS 6, 
other sites which are unable or unwilling to update will increasingly see 
objects their version of ATK doesn'tt have.  One possible preventive 
measure is to send any message containing an inset in MIME format.  (though 
I'm not sure this will solve the problem.)  One issue with sending in mime 
format is that the newsgroup will then see the raw MIME formatting.


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Consortium

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Yep.  Dwight McKay's message reliably crashes my (old) version of
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I just compiled and installed auis-6.2 on an 
SGI iris running IRIX 4.05.  I am very impressed !
I am having some minor problems that I don't know
how to fix.  When running eq (the equation editor)
if I try to do a fraction the / line is composed of
xxxxx's   i.e.           a+b
                        xxxxx
                         c+d
Also when running some of the demos and examples
the "thumb wheel" appears as a letter.  Also the
"ITC" logo appears as a letter.
The same things happen when I run the remote demo
from CMU.  Can you help me ?  I assume that either
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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 5-Apr-94 Font problems Ed
FitzGibbon - MEG@lsr. (681)

> I am having some minor problems that I don't know
> how to fix.  When running eq (the equation editor)
> if I try to do a fraction the / line is composed of
> xxxxx's   i.e.           a+b
>                         xxxxx
>                          c+d

Odd, this would seem to indicate that the sym* fonts fron atk/eq were
not installed properly.  What does xlsfonts|grep sym display?

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> Also when running some of the demos and examples
> the "thumb wheel" appears as a letter.  Also the
> "ITC" logo appears as a letter.

These are the values25 and icon12 fonts respectively.  It may be that
there is some feature of these fonts which your X server doesn't like. 
First check is to see if xlsfonts reports them, if it doesn't check that
they are installed in $ANDREWDIR/X11fonts.  If the fonts are installed
in $ANDREWDIR/X11fonts you may want to edit your site.h file to switch
from installing pcf, or bdf fonts to snf.  (Or vice-versa, see the top
level README or email me for more information.)

-Rob Ryan
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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 6-Apr-94 Andrew on SGI Irix
5.2? Bill Schell@allegra.att. (245*)

> Has anyone built the latest Andrew on SGI Irix 5.2 yet?  Or on 5.x at all?
> I'm about to do this and it would be nice to know if I should anticipate
> any major problems.

I re-ported and tested under Irix 4.05 if I recall correctly.  (Pretty
sure it was 4.?)  I'm don't recall hearing about anyone else building
AUIS on an SGI.

-Rob Ryan
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Dear Sir:
	I recently compiled AUIS-6.2 for the SGI Iris 4D and am
enjoying it very much.  I have 2 questions.  One is if there is 
a system like "refer" for making bibliographies in the andrew 
system.  I currently use troff with refer and a refer database.
Or can refer be used with ez ?  Secondly I am having problems
installing champ (in the contrib directory).  Although the
dynamic object files seem compile and end up in /usr/andrew/dlib/atk
(champ.do, chimp.do, etc.) only chump ends up in the /usr/andrew/bin
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to runapp with these names).  Is there a problem on the SGI with
champ ?  Thank you.  Ed FitzGibbon (ejf@lsr.nei.nih.gov)
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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 7-Apr-94 Ed FitzGibbon -
MEG@lsr. (707)

> One is if there is 
> a system like "refer" for making bibliographies in the andrew 
> system.  I currently use troff with refer and a refer database.
> Or can refer be used with ez ?

I'm not sure. 

Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 7-Apr-94 Ed FitzGibbon -
MEG@lsr. (707)

> Secondly I am having problems
> installing champ (in the contrib directory).  Although the
> dynamic object files seem compile and end up in /usr/andrew/dlib/atk
> (champ.do, chimp.do, etc.) only chump ends up in the /usr/andrew/bin
> directory, and no file named "champ" or "chimp" (or symbolic links
> to runapp with these names).  Is there a problem on the SGI with
> champ ?

There is no problem I know of.  Champ and Chimp (and month) are all
designed to be used as insets or documents.  Thus you use them by using
esc-tab chomp (or month), or using a addfiletype .champ chimp in your
.ezinit.  See help on Chimp and Champ for more information.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium
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A student here at MIT started working on a bibleography object but ran
out of time before completing the project.  Is there someone out there
in AUIS land who is interested in continuing the project? 

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\quotation{  I hope that we will be able to develop a mini-release of 5.1 
which includes just enough to rebuild runapp and text.do to fix this bug

}
Actually I mis-judged the location of the problem.  Apparently only some 
insets fail when trying to read a non-existent object.  For AUIS 6.3 I will 
endeavor to discover which insets suffer this problem and fix them. 
 (Though with AUIS 6.2 or later you will be much less likely to receive 
documents with insets you don't have.)


If you cannot upgrade to AUIS 6.2, you should get the "SafetyNet" package 
by anonymous ftp from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu.  I have included the README for 
that package below.  Please send any bug reports about the package to 
info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu.  (Recognize however that our ability to 
support 5.1 is limited.)


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Consortium


Unknown inset  (The AUIS 5.1 safety net for users receiving AUIS 6.2 mail.)


If you have any problems with this package please send a report to 
info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu


NOTE

You should consider upgrading to AUIS 6.2.1 or AUIS 6.3 when they are 
released.  This package is a stop-gap measure only.


Purpose

The Unknown inset and related insets provide a degree of protection from 
the receipt of mail containing objects introduced in AUIS 6.2 which AUIS 
5.1 did not have.  The related insets have the same names as insets 
included in AUIS 6.2, but function only to inform the user that the inset 
is not supported in their current system.


This package does NOT fix the underlying bugs which cause unknown insets to 
crash some ATK applications and insets.


Note that this package is not REQUIRED as long as the senders of any 
multimedia AUIS mail, or creators of any AUIS documents restrict their 
files or messages to insets included in AUIS 5.1.



DANGER DANGER DANGER

This package should NOT be installed if you have AUIS 5.2 or later 
installed.  To test this type the following at your shell prompt:


ez


and then


figure


If ez does not come up, then make sure your $ANDREWDIR/bin is in your path. 
 If ez does come up but figure reports "figure: Command not found" then 
this package is for you.  If figure does come up DO NOT INSTALL this 
package.  This double checks for the ATK version number displayed by the 
applications.  ATK applications may display an incorrect version number if 
you have $ANDREWDIR set incorrectly.



Installing

cd \{to where you wish to build the safety net\}.


ftp ftp.andrew.cmu.edu

ftp

emailaddress

cd pub/AUIS/5.1-SafetyNet

binary

get safetynet.tar.Z


uncompress<safetynet.tar.Z|tar xvf -


This will create the following files:

safetynet/

	Imakefile

	dunknown.c

	dunknown.ch

	dunknownv.c

	dunknownv.ch

	testfile

	unknown.c

	unknown.ch

	unknownv.c

	unknownv.ch


cd safetynet


If you do not have ANDREWDIR set, discover the proper setting and set it. 
(e.g. setenv ANDREWDIR /usr/andrew)  Also make sure that the imake program 
is in your path.


imake -Timake.tmpl  -I$ANDREWDIR/config -s Makefile -DTOPDIR=$ANDREWDIR



Then finally:


make dependInstall BASEDIR=$ANDREWDIR DESTDIR=$ANDREWDIR


If the installation fails, but all the .do's were made:

chmod 555 *.do

cp *.do $ANDREWDIR/dlib/atk

chmod 444 *.ih

cp *.ih $ANDREWDIR/include

(cd $ANDREWDIR/dlib/atk;doindex -d . *.do)


To test the installation type:


ez testfile


This should display a brief explanation of what to expect, and then an 
unknown inset.  (actually an image in the test file.)


-Rob Ryan

April 7, 1994

Andrew Consortium

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Please see my last post with subject line: Re: Unknown insets (was: Re.....


(Apologies for not posting it with a new subject line in the first place.)


-Rob Ryan

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Hello!

I tried to install andrew on SunOs 4.1.3 and ran into the problems discussed
on Usenet. I tried the solutions proposed there and still, it does not work:

	-if I add resolv libraries (with Bstatic), I get a message like:
		libresolv.so.0 not found

	-if I don't, I get a message like:
		ln.so: __lib_version: undefined symbol

Any clue? (Or, is the patch out?)
Thanks in advance,
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NEW.  IMPROVED.  SUPER-DUPER.   ===>  Bison-A2.2

Some of you have asked for Bison generation of C++ parsers.  Some have
asked for 
technology to permit multiple parsers in a single application.  A few
heretics have 
wanted a non-GPL parser.  All of you can now use Bison-A2.2, available
from the 
Andrew Consortium.  See URL:   
		ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/AUIS/bison/
(That is, anonymous ftp from host ftp.andrew.cmu.edu (ip address: 128.2.35.66) 
in directory pub/AUIS/bison/.)

Fred Hansen


Here is an extract from the README in that directory:
=========================================================

						9 April 1994

		Bison version A2.2
						Wilfred J. Hansen
						Dirctor, Andrew Consortium
						School of Computer Science
						Carnegie Mellon
						wjh+@cmu.edu

Bison is the GNU parser generator; an alternative to yacc.  This directory 
contains Bison version A2.2, derived from GNU Bison version 1.22.
It also includes parser generators for C and C++  which have these advantages

	No symbol conflicts.  Each parser is represented by a single name.
	Shared parser code.  All grammars use a single instance of the 
		parser object code.
	C++ object.  For C++, the generated parser is an object.  Utilize it with
			GrammarName *grammar = new GrammarName;
	License free.  The license on the parser code permits effectively
		unhindered use.

Bison-A2.2 has these advantages over other versions of Bison:

	Errors in the grammar do not terminate input; all errors are 
		found in one pass.  A complete example and test case is 
		the file mess.y in the distribution.
	Tokens may now be specified as multiple-character strings:
		"<=" can appear where formerly would have to be LESSEQ.
	The -n switch produces the parser tables without including
		the parser;  a project can now use its own parser
		and avoid the GNU license for the resulting application.
		(The parser and C++ packages do this also, but differently.)

The Andrew User Interface System (AUIS) includes a lexical analyzer 
generator--gentlex--tailored to this version of bison.

This directory contains 
	bison-A2.2 - sources in ASCII.  See bison.texinfo.
	mkparser - license-free parser for C.  See parser.doc.
	C++parser - license-free parser for C++.  See parserclass.doc.
	bison-A2.2.tar.gz - all the above, tarred and gzipped.
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Subject: AUIS Patch 6.2.1

Dear AUIS User, 

Release 6.2.1 of the Andrew User Interface System is now available. 
Only users with Sun OS 4.1.* and Solaris systems should pick up this
patch.  It also fixes a number of minor bugs found in release 6.2 but
breaks on non-Sun systems.  We feel that the number of problems fixed
for Sun machines is a compelling enough reason to release this patch
now.  Another patch which will be generally applicable will be made
available prior to the X11R6 contrib release.

patch-6.2.1.tar.Z is available via anonymous ftp from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu
(IP 128.2.35.66) in the pub/AUIS/patches directory.   To apply, cd to
the top of your source tree and issue the following commands: 

uncompress < patch-6.2.1.tar.Z | tar -xvf -
patch -p < patch.6.2.1

Several new files are introduced as well as moving the
<sources>/atk/syntax/bison directory to <sources>/overhead/bison. 

Problems?

Please send any comments or bug reports to info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu. 

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(I would have posted this, but the JPL news server's disk is full)

In article <ohemAk600gjOFBpVJV@andrew.cmu.edu> you write:
>Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 12-Apr-94 A bunch of
>questions about .. Claude Lecommandeur@slhp (3773)
>> 3 - Is there any plan (or is it possible right now) to produce html with ez ?
>>  
>A very rough html inset was included in 6.2, but it failed to compile
>due to blunders made here.  6.3 will hopefully include a much better
>version, though we can't promise that.
>

Actually, our purposes would be well suited by an EZ template that
only produced markup corresponding to HTML markup, plus a separate filter
that would turn the ATK markup into HTML.  Do you know if such a thing
might be lying around somewhere?

	Mike
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I've resent your message to info-andrew.

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> Actually, our purposes would be well suited by an EZ template that
> only produced markup corresponding to HTML markup, plus a separate filter
> that would turn the ATK markup into HTML.  Do you know if such a thing
> might be lying around somewhere?

I haven't heard about anything like this, it certainly doesn't sound
like it would be difficult.  Such a filter could probably be written in
Ness fairly easily.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium

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Hi Andrew peoples,

I am interested in andrew for its drawing capabilities on Unix.  I have an
SGI Irix 4.0.5H system and can't install it.

First attempt: followed the "instructions for the impatient", issued the
two make commands suggested; waited while lots of compilations happened
but it eventually stopped during some processing to do with 'doindex',
with a 'no such file or directory' error - not clear what file or
directory it was looking for.

Second attempt: went through things more carefully, altered the files
suggested in the installation notes for SGI further down in the README,
but eventually the same thing happened.

One thing that bugs me is, _where_ do I specify that my machine is
sgi_d4?  I presume it doesn't find this out automatically, but can't
find anywhere where I'm supposed to define this fact.

Any help greatly appreciated - or, alternatively, pointers to free X drawing
packages that can produce (at least) both bit-map and encapsulated PostScript
output.

Thanks,

- Martin

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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 13-Apr-94 Installation on SGI
IRIX 4... Martin Tasker@ic.ac.uk (1421)

> One thing that bugs me is, _where_ do I specify that my machine is
> sgi_d4?  I presume it doesn't find this out automatically, but can't
> find anywhere where I'm supposed to define this fact.

Actually it should successfully detect this automatically.  If there
turns out to be a problem, you can edit <sources>/config/platform.tmpl
to select the right section.

Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 13-Apr-94 Installation on SGI
IRIX 4... Martin Tasker@ic.ac.uk (1421)

> First attempt: followed the "instructions for the impatient", issued the
> two make commands suggested; waited while lots of compilations happened
> but it eventually stopped during some processing to do with 'doindex',
> with a 'no such file or directory' error - not clear what file or
> directory it was looking for.

It's probably looking for a .do file.  The .do file may not exist for
many reasons, the most common are:

disk full or other disk IO problem (including down network or server for
AFS or NFS)
An unresolved symbol when linking the .o files into a .do file.

A copy of the make long output from a command such as:

For csh:
make World>&world.log 

For sh:
make World 2>world.log 1>world.log

Also, make sure you have the AUIS 6.2 sources, 6.2.1 should NOT be
needed and would probably fail.

-Rob Ryan
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Subject: Getting a window's geometry

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Hello,


I am writing an ATK application in which there are multiple windows.  I
would like to be able to save each window's current geometry (where it was
last positioned and sized by the user).  My first thought was I would ask
the \italic{im} of each window for its geometry, but I don't see any
methods to return it.


Is there a way to do this?  And how?


thanks,

Jon


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                                                        Andrew Consortium
                                               School of Computer Science
                                                          Carnegie Mellon


            The Andrew View 

                                                       Volume 3, Number 1
                                                              April, 1994



The big news this month is our new public release !  

	AUIS Release 6.2

For members, the most interesting innovation may be the html editor
mode.  You can now edit html files and see them looking as nice as AUIS
files.  For non-members, innovations beyond release 5.1 include: 

	prefed - preferences editor
	figure - drawing editor
	image - display embedded images
	bdffont - font editor

AUIS is now supported on Telmat, Linux, Solaris, and SGI in addition to
platforms from IBM, SPARCstation, HP, Dec, Apollo, and SCO.


FTP   We have a new ftp home in directory pub/AUIS on ftp.andrew.cmu.edu
   (ip address: 128.2.35.66).  See the README file for details.


WWW   View us on the World Wide Web at URL (all one line):

http://www.cs.cmu.edu:8001/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/atk-ftp/web/andrew-home.html
 _____________________________________________
Contents
 
    My Own View  -  Fred Hansen
    Andrew Technical Conference and Annual Meeting
    New and Revised Features in Version 6.2
    AUIS Release 6.2.1
    The "unknown" inset: an upgrade for AUIS 5.1  -  Rob Ryan
    Projects in Progress
    Whither Troff Printing?  -  Andy Plotkin
    Proposed Grant Levels
    1994 Survey  -  Susan Straub
    Bison for C and C++
    Rainbow  -  David Sklar, Electronic Book Technologies


_____________________________________________
My Own View
Wilfred J. Hansen, Director

When you consider that AUIS is a million lines of code in over 5000
files, you might think it a miracle that the whole thing ever compiles
on any platform.  Well, it compiles--really, it does!  Our own
platforms, however, are only a minority of all the platforms we support.
 A number of kind people have built the 6.2 release on other platforms
and reported problems.  The result is the new patch, 6.2.1 for Sun
platforms, as reported below.

There will be at least one further release of AUIS 6, numbered release
6.3.  It will come out with the contributed section of X Windows System
V11R6 in June and will be the last AUIS release in C.  Subsequent
releases will be in C++ and numbered 7.1 and higher.

At SIGCHI (April 24-28, 1994, Boston, Massachusetts) I will present a
tutorial entitled "Introduction to User Interface Systems for HCI
Developers and Researchers".  This will discuss the Human-Computer
Interface challenges and opportunities of user interface systems like
AUIS, Fresco, OLE from MicroSoft, and OpenDoc originally from Apple and
now from the Component Integration Laboratory.  These systems offer the
challenge of defining user interface schemes that extend across a wide
spread of applications;  they offer the opportunity to conveniently
capture user interactions in order to study user behavior.

I'll repeat the systems comparisons portions of the tutorial at
Xhibition in San Jose (June 21-23) and at the Andrew Technical
Conference (Pittsburgh, 1 July).
 _____________________________________________ 
Andrew Technical Conference and Annual Meeting

The Andrew Technical Conference this year is scheduled for 

	Friday, July 1

The Annual Meeting of the Consortium will be held during and after lunch.

As part of the Conference, Fred Hansen will present the tutorial he has
been preparing on the various alternatives available to AUIS: OLE,
OpenDoc, Fresco, and so on.  

If you have a paper you would like to present, please contact Fred
Hansen (wjh+@cmu.edu,  (412) 268-6788).

As part of the annual meeting, we discuss future directions for
development of AUIS.  These discussions drive the work of the Consortium
staff for the year ahead.  If you have any suggestions as to directions
we should take, please send email to Fred Hansen at the address above.


_____________________________________________ 
New and Revised Features in Version 6.2

AUIS users everywhere can now receive Release 6.2 of AUIS.  The full set
of changes between 6.2 and 5.1, the previous public release, is given as
the file Changes (or Changes.ez in AUIS format) in directory pub/AUIS of
our new ftp host:

	ftp.andrew.cmu.edu

For members, here are the changes from 6.1 to 6.2.

Everywhere

Fixed bugs, coreleaks, and copyrights.  More posixification.  AUIS code
is posix, but utilizes some BSD extensions.

- Straightened everything out so colors can be destroyed without leaving
dangling pointers anywhere.
- Fixed event queue so events are not lost.  This means the clock will
not stop.
- Revised ATK text data stream slightly so whitespace is treated better
when text is converted to ASCII.
- Fixed ez so that ^G to the initial file prompt will provide a scratch
buffer. 

Platforms

AUIS is now supported on the following new platforms (the names with
underscores are the subdirectory of the config directory in the source).
	Linux (i386_Linux)  Telmat (telmat_svr4)  Solaris (sun4_51)
In addition, support for SGI machines has been fixed:
    SGI (sgi_4d)
We have tested the system on these additional platforms
    pmax_mach  pmax_ul4  rs_aix3  sun4_mach  sun4_41  hp700_80 
The following platforms are included in the release, but have not been tested
    apollo68k  hp300_80  hp800_80  i386_mach  mac2_51  next_mach20 
    pmax_3  pmax_41  ps_aix12  rt_aix221  rt_aos4  rt_mach  sco_i386 
    sun3_35  sun3_4  sun3_41  sun4_40  vax_3  vax_43

Applications and Objects

Changed background colors in scollbars, dialogs, sbuttons, menubars, and
Motif-style popups.  (Can be turned off by setting preference
UseNewShadows to No.)

Updated text to work with Ispell 4.0.

Ness has been revised throughout so that very general filenames can be
used, including $XXX to access environment values.  Files for execution
are sought in the directories listed in the nesspath preference.

Ness's launchapplication function can now launch applications that are
objects other than text.

HTML editor mode has been added in ./contrib/srctext/html.  Files can be
saved in html format and edited in ez as formatted text; the reader need
not look at embedded html formatting tags.  To enable this, the contrib
directory must be built and installed and then a line like
	addfiletype .html html
added to  ~/.ezinit.  (For instructions on the latter, say `help initfiles`.)

Translation between AUIS format and RTF.  The source files
contrib/mit/2rtf/* and contrib/mit/rtf2/* are installed as the
applications 2rtf and rtf2;  these convert, respectively, from AUIS to
RTF and from RTF to AUIS.  (Sometimes, conversion from RTF to AUIS is
better done with the ness program fromrtf.n.  See
src:atk/ness/nesslib/fromrtf.n or $ANDREWDIR/lib/ness/fromtrt.n.)

New facilities

The Andrew logo is available as an icon in src:./overhead/xicons/alog.icon.

Support has been added for translating menu items and message line
messages into other languages. This is enabled by setting the
TranslateMenus preference to On, in which case, menu titles and items
are translated according to the ANDREWLANGUAGE database.  Documentation
and example files for this mechanism are unavailable.  (This feature is
used primarily by the port to the Telmat platform.)

All the srctext insets such as the C and C++ modes now understand
dogtags.  See atk/srctext/dogtags.help (or help dogtags) for more
information.

When porting the system to a new platform, it has been necessary to
write an assembler routine, entry.spp.  This can now be avoided by
defining CLASS_CTRAMPOLINE_ENV  as 1 in system.h for the platform.

_____________________________________________ 
AUIS Release 6.2.1

Release 6.2.1 of the Andrew User Interface System is now available as a
patch to release 6.2.  If you already have 6.2, we recommend that you
pick up 6.2.1 only for Sun OS 4.1.* and Sun Solaris.  It fixes a number
of minor bugs found in release 6.2 but breaks on non-Sun systems. 
Another patch which will be generally applicable will be made available
soon.

The patch is available as file patch-6.2.1.tar.Z via anonymous ftp from
ftp.andrew.cmu.edu (IP 128.2.35.66) in the pub/AUIS/patches directory.
This patch introduces several new files as well as moving the
<sources>/atk/syntax/bison directory to <sources>/overhead/bison.  It
utilizes the new parsing technology described in the Bison article below.

_____________________________________________ 
The "unknown" inset: an upgrade for AUIS 5.1
Rob Ryan

When AUIS release 5.1 encounters a file create with release 6.xx
containing new insets, problems will occur, possibly including core
dumps.  Ideally, you will avoid this problem by upgrading to AUIS 6.2.1
or some later system, but if you would rather not, you can install the
"unknown" inset.  (NOTE: This is only for 5.1.)

The "unknown" inset distribution introduces proxy insets having the same
names as the new insets, but functioning only enough to inform the user
that the inset is not supported.  This package is available for
anonymous ftp from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in directory
pub/AUIS/5.1-SafetyNet.
 _____________________________________________ 
Projects in Progress

The Consortium staff is at work on three major projects undertaken in
response to past annual meetings.  

C++.  The port to C++ is largely complete, including complete plans for
dynamic loading;  but the latter is still pending implementation. 
Progress is on hold this month while we complete release of version 6.2.
 We expect to make a complete release of the C++ version later this year.

Printing.  In the C++ release, text and many other objects now print
directly to postscript.  Many niceties remain to be added, but the new
printing facility should be ready for the C++ release.

Widgets.  Work on the C++ version has occupied more resources than we
had hoped.  (It was never actually scheduled at an Annual meeting.)  The
result has been complete slippage of the widgets project.  We have some
exciting concepts, but have not made implementation progress.

WorldWideWeb.  In our first issue of last year, the Andrew View reported
on the WorldWideWeb.  In the last few months usage and contents on this
web have shown phenomenal growth (in the range of 70,000 percent at one
point).  We are working toward closer integration of AUIS into the WWW
environment, having made a start by creating our own home page, as noted
above.  Two AUIS projects are related:

Nick Williams of the Systems Architecture Research Center in London has
created htmltext, a source text editor which simplifies construction of
files in the HTML format utilized on the WWW.  An early version of this
package is in AUIS 6.2;  more recent versions are available for
anonymous FTP from ftp.cs.city.ac.uk in directory pub/htmltext.

Tom Neuendorffer, who created ADEW and many other Andrew components, has
agreed to create an AUIS application which will serve as an interface to
the WWW.  This will have many advantages for AUIS users:

	familiar AUIS interaction: scrollbars, menus, window resizing, ... 	
	AUIS search operations
	copy / paste from HTML documents to AUIS documents
	open-ended - add your own operations

Another desirable goal is creation of a "weblink" inset which works like
the existing link inset, but can point to any WWW node.  We also hope to
create a WWW server which reads AUIS documents and delivers them across
the web as HTML documents.

 _____________________________________________ 
Whither Troff Printing?
Andy Plotkin

As part of the development of the new PostScript printing system, I am
considering the fate of all the troff-generating routines currently in
place. There are three obvious possibilities:

1. Remove all the old printing routines, including the view::Print method. 
Ups: The source code and executables would only have one set of printing
routines, which saves space. Ezprint would subsume the functionality of
ez2ps.
Downs: Troff output would no longer be available at all. 

2. Put all of the printing code under cpp conditionals; say, #ifndef and
#ifdef PSPRINTING_ENV. 
Ups: Sites could choose which method to use. Executables would have only
one set of printing routines...
Downs: ...but the source code would have both. Users would not be able
to choose a printing method themselves.

3. Leave everything in place. The print::ProcessView function already
accepts a flag which tells it whether to generate troff or generate PS
output (using psdit); that mechanism could be altered to choose between
the troff and PS printing routines. 
Ups: Users could invoke either printing method (probably by either a
preference or different keybindings.)
Downs: More source-code and executable bloat.  Twice as much printing
code for the Consortium to support.

This decision will impact all Consortium members, since everyone uses
printing (even people who don't use "impact" as a verb.) Please send us
your thoughts, so that we can take your needs into account.

_____________________________________________ 
Proposed Grant Levels

The Andrew Consortium exists through the generosity of our members, who
provide grants on our behalf.  For the first three years we have had
only three levels of membership--Full, Contributing, and Associate.  In
some cases these levels have not been appropriate;  primarily in being
beyond the means of small, start-up companies who might otherwise
participate for mutual benefit.  At the last Annual Meeting, it was
proposed that a new grant structure be introduced offering a greater
variety of levels.

This note describes a proposed structure of categories.  The idea is to
fit existing members into one or another of these categories at a grant
level no more than slightly higher than their current level.  If you
have suggestions about this proposal, please contact Fred Hansen
(wjh+@cmu.edu, +1-412-268-6788.)

The plan proposed below will be voted on at the annual meeting.  Grant
levels, expressed in $000's, depend on size of organization and class of
membership.

Size of organization.  Organizations are classified as small, medium or
large, depending on the type of organization.  This section defines the
size of a "medium" organization of each type.  "Small" or "large"
organizations are, respectively and perhaps not surprisingly, smaller or
larger than medium organizations.

	Academic institution, medium size: 2000-10000 students
	Non-academic research organization, medium size: 8-40 researchers
	Commercial organization, in house use, medium size: 100-1000 users
	Commercial distributor, medium size: 1000-10000 customers
	Government, medium size: 200-2000 users

Participating Members.  A new grant level is proposed for organizations
desiring direct involvement in AUIS development.  Participating members
have all the rights of full members and are also eligible to send staff
to Carnegie Mellon where they can work side-by-side with the Consortium
staff.  In this way they can more immediately influence AUIS
development, they can develop new software based on the latest version,
and they can acquire the intimate understanding of the system which is
only possible from immersion.  Grant levels:  150, 300, 600.

Full Members.  These members have voting rights in consortium decisions
and merit direct contact with Consortium staff.   Grant levels: 45, 90,
180.

Contributing Members.  Contributing members have the right to specify
particular code to be included in the AUIS distribution.  This level of
membership is also appropriate for organizations which depend on AUIS
for their own work.  Grant levels: 15, 30, 60.

Associate Members.  At this level, members establish a relationship with
the consortium, and get access to the latest source.  Grant levels: 
0.5, 2, 5.

_____________________________________________ 
1994 Survey
Susan Straub

Once again we are polling the world to see how people are exploiting
AUIS and to determine their needs.  If you've not already filled out
this survey, please take a few moments to complete the enclosed survey
and return it to susan+@andrew.cmu.edu.  We will share the results of
the survey at the Annual Meeting.

(It is not our intention to publish individual answers other than to
quote comments;  however, we are not taking cryptographic precautions
and cannot guarantee the confidentiality of what you send us.  If we've
asked questions you'd rather not answer, please feel free to omit them
from your reply.)
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1994 Survey of Andrew User Interface System Users
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Name:

Net address:

Company/division/site location:

Number of machines at site running AUIS:  
                1?   2-10?   10-100?   100-1000?    over 1000?

Number of AUIS users at site:
                1?   2-10?   10-100?   100-1000?    over 1000?

Number of AUIS users at other sites for the same company?

What system type(s) do you run AUIS on:  

Are you or anyone at your site using AUIS for:
        Mail, bulletin boards, news groups access?
        Document production
        User interface prototyping or development
        Other uses (please list)

What additional service(s) would you like to see provided by the
Andrew Consortium? 

Other comments:

_____________________________________________ 
Bison for C and C++

Bison is the GNU parser generator; an alternative to yacc.  To enhance
AUIS portability, we have adapted Bison for all parsing requirements in
AUIS 6.2.1.  To avoid encumbering the entire source code with the
license imposed by the Free Software Foundation, the adaptation removes
the default Bison parser and installs an AUIS parser.  The C++ version
even creates a Class from the grammar.  The package is available as a
separate entity from ftp.andrew.cmu.edu in directory pub/AUIS/bison.

The parser generators have these advantages

	No symbol conflicts.  Each parser is represented by a single name.
	Shared parser code.  All grammars use a single instance of the 
		parser object code.
	C++ object.  For C++, the generated parser is an object.  Utilize it with
			GrammarName *grammar = new GrammarName;
	License free.  The license on the parser code permits effectively
		unhindered use.

Bison-A2.2 has these advantages over other versions of Bison:

	Errors in the grammar do not terminate input; all errors are 
		found in one pass.  A complete example and test case is 
		the file mess.y in the distribution.
	Tokens may now be specified as multiple-character strings:
		"<=" can appear where formerly would have to be LESSEQ.
	The -n switch produces the parser tables without including
		the parser;  a project can now use its own parser
		and avoid the GNU license for the resulting application.
		(The AUIS C and C++ parsers do not actually use this switch.)

AUIS also includes a lexical analyzer generator--gentlex in directory
<sources>/atk/syntax/tlex--tailored to this version of bison.

_____________________________________________ 
Rainbow

Some Consortium members have expressed interest in adopting SGML.  The
following extract of a note on "Rainbow" describes one tool available
for conversion from existing formats to some particular SGML/DTD.  We
could, for example, support conversion of AUIS documents to SGML via
this path.  (Howver, AUIS documents to a large degree already have the
structure information descrbed below.)  Or we could support conversion
of other documents to AUIS via a pathway through SGML using these tools.
 If either of these efforts is of value, you should include it in your
list of suggestions for the Annual Meeting, as noted above.

         Accelerating Conversion to SGML via the Rainbow Format

                               David Sklar
                        Director of Applications
                      Electronic Book Technologies

*** The Problem: Inefficiency in Conversion Efforts

"Up conversion" -- the translation of a document from a proprietary
word-processor (WP) format to an SGML document conforming to a useful
DTD -- is one of the thorniest problems an organization faces when it
adopts SGML.  Up conversion is typically performed by building (or
hiring a consultant to build) a custom conversion application via a
translation-enabling tool like OmniMark, TagWrite, or FastTag.  The
conversion application typically involves two phases: 1) extraction and
interpretation of the formatting codes in the WP format, and 2)
identification of content and structure.

The second phase is the most sophisticated one, for it involves creating
something (structure and true content identification) from "nothing" (WP
formats which are typically flat and lacking in content identification).
 A considerable amount of planning and thought is necessary for
implementation of this phase, and it is almost always necessary to
custom-build this phase for each organization.

But the first phase -- extraction of the WP formatting codes -- is not
very sophisticated, for it is simply a translation.  The most difficult
part of implementing this phase is becoming an expert in the proprietary
WP format itself.  .... How can we prevent organizations from
redundantly implementing phase one?  Imagine a world in which all
up-conversion efforts start from a single stable, well-documented input
format instead of a variety of unstable proprietary ones....

*** The Solution: Rainbow

Electronic Book Technologies, in conjunction with several other key SGML
vendors and promoters, has designed a format that is suitable for acting
as the starting point for up-conversion efforts.  We call that format
"Rainbow", because it represents a unification of the wide spectrum of
proprietary formats.

The Rainbow format is actually an SGML DTD....  The Rainbow DTD is
publicly available, and can be used and modified by organizations and
individuals freely.  An FTP server has been created to provide a forum
for the distribution of Rainbow-related data, and a mailing list has
been created to keep interested parties informed of Rainbow-related
developments.  To subscribe to the mailing list, send email to
rainbow@ebt.com;  you will receive a reply with specific information on
how to access the FTP server.

As described above, the primary purpose of Rainbow is to insulate
up-conversion implementations from the dynamic and eccentric world of
proprietary formats.  Obviously, this noble idea is not practical unless
the SGML community has easy access to "Rainbow Makers" (software
programs designed to convert WP-format documents to Rainbow documents). 
It is our hope that members of the SGML community will share Rainbow
Makers that the build, thus helping us eliminate redundant efforts. 
[EBT is making available Rainbow-Makers for RTF (Microsoft Word), MIF,
Interleaf, and WordPerfect.  Another vendor is doing one for the Ventura
format.]

 _______________________________________
The Andrew User Interface System

The Andrew User Interface System (AUIS) is a portable user-interface
environment and toolkit that runs under X11. It provides a
dynamically-loadable object-oriented environment wherein objects can be
embedded in one-another. Thus, one could use our 'generic-object' editor
(ez) to edit text that, in addition to containing multiple fonts,
contains embedded raster images, spreadsheets, drawings, equations,
simple animations, etc.  These embedded objects may themselves contain
other objects, including text. The release includes many objects,
including those mentioned above, along with a help system, a system
monitoring tool (console), an editor based shell interface (typescript).
 

The underlying Andrew Toolkit architecture (ATK) supports cooperation
between objects not only for screen display, but also for file storage,
cut/paste across windows, an application construction environment, an
extension language, and printing.  There is full support for programmers
to create new objects and new applications.

The Andrew Message System(AMS) is a component of AUIS and provides a
multi-media interface to mail and bulletin-boards.  AMS contains many
advanced  features including authentication, return receipts, automatic
sorting of mail, vote collection and tabulation, enclosures, audit
trails of related messages, and subscription management. It also
provides a variety of interfaces that support character-based terminals
and low-function personal computers in addition to high-function
workstations. 

Andrew has been successfully used on most platforms from these vendors: 
IBM, Sun, DEC,  HP, SGI IRIX 4.0, Apollo, Macintosh II MacMach, 386/486
Mach, Linux, Telmat, Apollo, Mac2, Next, SCO I386.


The following are components are available in version 6.2 and later
versions.  Some respond to frequently requested applications in X: word
processor-ez, drawing editor-figure, mail and news reader-messages, font
editor-bdffont, documentation browser-help, directory browser-bush, HTML
editor-htmltext.

  AUIS editors that are both applications and insets

eq - equation inset
fad - animation editor
figure - drawing editor
layout - inset for arbitrary layout of enclosed insets
lset - display two adjacent insets
ness - extension and string processing language
org - display and edit hierarchies
page - allow flipping between pages
raster - editor for monochrome bit-mapped images
table - table / spreadsheet inset
text - text, document, and program editor (the heart of ez and other
applications)

  AUIS applications

bush - directory browser
chump - schedule maintainer
console - shell interface / terminal replacement
ez - word processor and program editor
bdffont - font editor (for fonts in bdf format)
help - documentation browser  (includes all AUIS help files)
launch - provides a menu of AUIS applications
messages - mail and news reader, manager, and composer
pipescript - viewer useful as stdout
prefed - preferences editor
sendmessage - application for sending a message or news posting
typescript - shell interface (terminal substitute)

  Commonly used non-interactive AUIS applications

datacat - concatenate AUIS files
ezprint - print an AUIS document
nessrun - runs a Ness script (the extension and string processing language)
preview - preview an AUIS document on screen

  File format converters

from AUIS to: RTF, ASCII, PostScript, troff
to AUIS from: ppm, Scribe, RTF, troff, X window dump
convertraster - various raster formats

  Embeddable insets not usually used as applications

clock - analog clock
eq - equations
fad - rudimentary animations
header - specify document headers and footers
image - store and display images in JPEG, gif, tiff, and other formats
link - hypertext-like link
month - display a calendar for  one month
note - annotation
text - the text object itself
timeoday - digital clock
writestamp - displays the time the file was written

  Editing tools

compchar - type characters for European languages
compile - support compilation and error review
complete - filename completion for typescript
dired - directory browser
dsearch - dynamic search
ezdiff - compare two ASCII files
filter - process a region of a document through a shell command
isearch - incremental search
lookz - style table editor
spell - spelling correction (uses ispell)

  Source text editing tools for

assembler, C++, C, HTML, Lisp, man pages, Modula, Modula-3, Pascal

  Tools for constructing insets and applications

arb - ADEW application builder interface
bison, mkparser/parser - GNU parser generator (modified)
class - preprocessor for AUIS's ClassC version of C
createcon - ADEW tool to generate C code for interface
createinset - create a prototypical inset under a new name
genmake - Makefile generator for classC
gentlex - lexical analyzer generator
makedo, doindex, whichdo - create, store, and locate dynamically
loadable objects
runadew - ADEW application builder

  Additional insets available for building applications

button, display text string, entry of labeled text string, four position
switch, multiple buttons, multiple sliders, multiple string entry,
on/off switch, slider, slider controlling array of strings, text list,
thumb knob

______________________________________ 
Consortium Services and Offerings

For information about services and offerings of the Andrew Toolkit
Consortium please contact us at:
    Andrew Consortium
    School of Computer Science
    Carnegie Mellon University
    5000 Forbes Avenue
    Pittsburgh, PA 15213;  USA
    phone: +1-412-268-6710
    email: info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu

We offer memberships at three levels: Full, Contributing, and Associate.
 We also can provide source tape, CDrom with both source and
executables, bibliography, copies of papers, conference proceedings.

AUIS sources and binaries are available online via anonymous ftp from
ftp.andrew.cmu.edu (IP address is 128.2.35.66) in directory ./pub/AUIS. 
See the README there.  Another ftp site is export.lcs.mit.edu in
directory ./contrib/andrew;  this is cloned on many servers, world-wide.
 On the nationwide AFS file system, AUIS is available in
/afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/atk-ftp/.

To try AUIS, use our Remote Andrew Demo service:  finger
help@atk.itc.cmu.edu  (IP address is 128.2.203.218)

News groups: Send subscription requests to
info-andrew-request@andrew.cmu.edu and submissions to
	info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu.  This is a distribution list offering the
news with full AUIS formatting;   For a clone in plain ASCII, see news
group  comp.soft-sys.andrew.

Send requests to   	info-andrew-requests@andrew.cmu.edu
Bug reports to    	info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu
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I am writing an ATK application in which there are multiple windows.  I 
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last positioned and sized by the user).  My first thought was I would ask 
the \italic{im} of each window for its geometry, but I don't see any 
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}When passed an im, a view, and the pointer to a rectangle (for return 
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Hi everyone,

Is there anyone who succeeded in installing Andrew on 
Solaris 2.0 or 2.1 ?  My solaris has X11R5.
If you are one of them, I need your advice...
What is needed in *.mcr and *.h ?

Thanks in advance...

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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 29-Mar-94 Problem compiling
auis 6.2 .. Dwight McKay@gimli.bio.p (1322+0)

> I'm trying to compile the auis 6.2 on a DECstation under Ultrix 4.2a.  I
> get the following error message:

> cc -Dvoid=int -Wl,-D,1000000 -O -I. -I../machdep/machine -I../lib
> -I/usr/andrew62/include/atk -I/usr/andrew62/include  -I/usr/include   -o
> dotest.temp mips_global_space.o dotest.o            
> /usr/andrew62/lib/libclass.a  /usr/lib/libX11.a

> ld:
> /lib/libc.a(malloc.o): malloc: multiply defined
> /lib/libc.a(malloc.o): free: multiply defined
> /lib/libc.a(malloc.o): realloc: multiply defined
> *** Error code 1

Oops, I believe I responded to this privately, but it bears repeating on
a public forum.

The fix for multiply defined symbols on Decstations running Ultrix 4.2
is to put the following in site.mcr:

XLIB = -lc -lX11

This assumes that you are using the Dec X11 library.  If you are using
the MIT version you shouldn't have a problem.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium

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To fix malloc multiply defined errors, add:


XLIB = /lib/libc.a $(XLIBDIR)/libX11.a


to site.mcr, not -lc -lX11.


Sorry for the confusion.

-Rob

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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 17-Apr-94 Problem:
solaris+gcc Philip Brown@cats.ucsc.e (474)

> Why are you people releasing it only with suport for Sun's CC??
> andrew is free software.. it should primarily have support for the only
> FREE compiler for sparcs, gcc!!!!

And why are you complaining in such tones about free software?   If you 
look at config/sun4_51/system.mcr you will see that support for trying
to use gcc is there.  I used the system C compiler because that's what I
had available.  I can't guarantee that gcc will work, if it doesn't
please report the problems you encounter.

From system.mcr for sun4_51:
#ifdef GNU_ENV
CC = gcc -traditional
GCCLIB = "fill me in with the path to libgcc.a for
example:/usr/local/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sunos5/2.4.3/libgcc.a"
/* Flag to compile position-independent code. */
PICFLAG = -fpic
#else
CC = cc -Xs
/* Apparently no PIC flag is necessary at least under Solaris 2.3*/
PICFLAG=
GCCLIB=
#endif

Alas, in practice the GNU_ENV section must be placed in site.mcr:

CC=gcc -traditional
PICFLAG=
GCCLIB = "wherever your libgcc really is, in quotes"

(The PICFLAG= -fpic setting is probably not needed, since no pic flag is
needed for the non-gnu case.)

Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 17-Apr-94 Problem:
solaris+gcc Philip Brown@cats.ucsc.e (474)

> And whatever you're
> doing in overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc_51 is really icky. Why can't
> you just provide a .c file? It totally breaks trying to compile the .spp
file. Errors all over the place.

If you don't tell use what the errors are how are we supposed to fix
them, or even suggest a fix?

-Rob
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hi,
	I tried to run the demo-atk on a X-terminal,when i say xset fp+....
its giving the following :

X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operati
on)
  Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  0
  Resource id in failed request:  0x8
  Serial number of failed request:  4
  Current serial number in output stream:  6

the details of the machine are:

DECstation 5000/240 running Ultrix 4.3,mips ,RISC R3000 cpu

and X11 is X11r4.

I would really appreciate one's help in this regard.

thanks.

Srini.

(Srinivas Bollepalli)
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Subject: Re: having problems ,trying to run demo.

On Apr 18,  5:14pm, srinib@valhalla.cs.wright.edu wrote:
> Subject: having problems ,trying to run demo.
>
> hi,
> 	I tried to run the demo-atk on a X-terminal,when i say xset fp+....
> its giving the following :
>
> X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
operati
> on)
>   Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
>   Minor opcode of failed request:  0
>   Resource id in failed request:  0x8
>   Serial number of failed request:  4
>   Current serial number in output stream:  6
>

I've been caught out by this one too - the problem is you are trying to get
your X-terminal to mount (usually via NFS) a directory that is out of its path

So the fix is to either NFS export the AUIS X11fonts directory, or (better
answer I feel), copy the fonts into the appropriate fonts directory and do a
mkfontdir.

This will also help people with black-and-white Xterms that give
grotty-looking fonts I think.

Cheers

Jason Haar
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Hello,

I just upgraded from AUIS 5.1 to AUIS 6.2.1 on our Sparc 10 running 
SunOS4.1.3 and I've problems to reestablish some things I was always used 
to have. I would be very thankful if somebody is able to help me on the 
following topics.


\bold{1}. I used to have the following lines in my .atkinit-file to use the 
CUT, COPY, PASTE and FIND key on my Sun keyboard. They don't work anymore.


\typewriter{addkey "textview-zap-region" \\eN

addkey "textview-copy-region" \\eJ

addkey "textview-yank" \\eL

addkey "dynsearch-search-forward" \\eM textview

}

\bold{2.  }The fixed-width style of the default andy font creates much 
bigger text now than it used to be. Especially in cpptext of srctext the 
used font is much, much to big now. I found no preference to specify a 
smaller size only for the fixed-width style. Even if I say 
\typewriter{*.BodyFont:andy10} a C++-Listing for instance with 80 columns 
width needs 3/4 of my screen (used to need only half with andy12). All 
other fonts and styles apear as normal as ever. Is there a way to return to 
my smaller fixed-width style ?


Thanks in advance,

	\bold{\italic{Peter}}.


________________________________________________________

   Peter Haumer, Kaiserplatz 1, 52062 Aachen, Germany

   Phone: +49-(0)241-30798

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\define{center

attr:[Justification Centered Point 0]}
\define{global
}
\define{h

attr:[FontFamily rom Int 0]
attr:[FontSize ConstantFontSize Point 6]}
\define{a

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
attr:['color' '#F0A000']}
\define{b

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
attr:['color' '#E08000']}
\define{c

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
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\define{d

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
attr:['color' '#C05000']}
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 19-Apr-94 about
changes in 6.2.1 Peter Haumer@picasso.inf (1255+0)}


\quotation{\bold{2.  }The fixed-width style of the default andy font
creates much bigger text now than it used to be. Especially in cpptext of
srctext the used font is much, much to big now.

}
The templates used by the source views (assuming you don't have your own
\italic{customized} one) simply force the font family to
``\blue{andytype}''.


\smaller{(They also enable the "FixedWidth" attribute, but all that REALLY
does is append the letter "\blue{f}" to the name of the font that ATK asks
the X server for)}


So, if you specify  \typewriter{\italic{*.BodyFont: \red{\bold{andy10}}}} ,
when editing source code you should get the font
``\blue{andytype}\red{\bold{\typewriter{\italic{10}}}}\blue{f}'', period.


Since something's apparently going wrong, here's where I'd start looking:

\description{  1. Check your \typewriter{TEMPLATEPATH} env.var, find the
template that's being used, and make sure it's not doing something
\italic{else} with its **global** style.

  2. Use xfbrows or xfd or whatever you've got, to find and display
``andytype10f''.  If it turns out it's bigger than the other ``andy..''
families' 10-point versions, your font aliases must be installed wrong or
something.

  3. (sanity check) To make sure your \typewriter{\italic{*.BodyFont}}
preference is taking effect, look at the font used in the message-line at
the bottom of the window.

  4. ???}

\center{
\h{\f{R\e{o\d{b\c{er\b{t K\a{emme}tmu}el}l}e}r

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I have experienced a small problem that I can not get past.  The
mode(permission) of /usr/andrew/etc/install is not be made executable
during the build and so the build fails.

Here is the error message

building (dependInstall) (/usr/local/src/andrew/auis-6.2/config)
        make DESTDIR=/usr/andrew install
        /usr/andrew/etc/install  -c -m 0444 ../DISCLAIMER  /usr/andrew/doc/DISCLAIMER

make: fatal error: couldn't load '/usr/andrew/etc/install' (bu22):Permission denied.
*** Error code 1 (bu21)

make: fatal error.
*** Error code 1 (bu21)

make: fatal error.
*** Error code 1 (bu21)

make: fatal error.
*** Error code 1 (bu21)


Do you know where I can add a chmod +x /usr/andrew/etc/install so
I can run the install command?

Thanks.

Brad Zoltick
National Institutes of Health
Email: brad@lsr.nei.nih.gov
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from mail: 19-Apr-94 Re: about changes in 6.2.1 
Robert Kemmetmueller@VNE (1328+0)}


\quotation{\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 19-Apr-94 
about changes in 6.2.1 Peter Haumer@picasso.inf (1255+0)}

}
\quotation{\quotation{\bold{2.  }The fixed-width style of the default andy 
font creates much bigger text now than it used to be. Especially in cpptext 
of srctext the used font is much, much to big now.

}\description{
}}
Thank you for your quick help, but I'm sorry to say that nothing of your 
hints could have helped me in that matter.


\quotation{  1. Check your \typewriter{TEMPLATEPATH} env.var, find the 
template that's being used, and make sure it's not doing something 
\italic{else} with its **global** style.


}I removed all private .tpl-files and I examined the default.tpl and c.tpl, 
but didn't find anything unusal:

\underline{default.tpl:}

\typewriter{\smaller{	\\define\{global

	\}

...

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attr:[Justification LeftJustified Point 0]

attr:[Flags ContinueIndent Int Set]

attr:[Flags TabsCharacters Int Set]

attr:[FontFace FixedFace Int Set]

attr:[FontFamily AndyType Int 0]\}

}}

\description{\quotation{
}\quotation{  2. Use xfbrows or xfd or whatever you've got, to find and 
display ``andytype10f''.  If it turns out it's bigger than the other 
``andy..'' families' 10-point versions, your font aliases must be installed 
wrong or something.

}}
xfbrows show right the font I'd like to have. In the 
\typewriter{\smaller{X11fonts/fonts.alias }}file you find \


   andytype10f     -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--*-120-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1


\description{\quotation{
}\quotation{  3. (sanity check) To make sure your 
\typewriter{\italic{*.BodyFont}} preference is taking effect, look at the 
font used in the message-line at the bottom of the window.

}}
It takes effect.



Any other idea ?



Thanks in advance,

	\bold{\italic{Peter}}.


________________________________________________________

   Peter Haumer, Kaiserplatz 1, 52062 Aachen, Germany

   Phone: +49-(0)241-30798

   EMail: haumer@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (AMS,MINE)

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Thank you for your quick help.\excerptedcaption{


Excerpts from mail: 19-Apr-94 Re: about changes in 6.2.1 
Wilfred.Hansen@cs.cmu.ed (1189)}


\quotation{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 19-Apr-94 about 
changes in

}\quotation{6.2.1 Peter Haumer@picasso.inf (1255+0)

}
\quotation{> 1. I used to have the following lines in my .atkinit-file to 
use the

}\quotation{> CUT, COPY, PASTE and FIND key on my Sun keyboard. They don't 
work

}\quotation{> anymore.

}
\quotation{> addkey "textview-zap-region" \\eN

}\quotation{> addkey "textview-copy-region" \\eJ

}\quotation{> addkey "textview-yank" \\eL

}\quotation{> addkey "dynsearch-search-forward" \\eM textview

}

\quotation{Hard to understand this happening.  Nothing has changed in this 
area

}\quotation{that I can remember.  One quick first check is to use ctrl-X 
ctrl-Q

}\quotation{followed by one of those keys.  The escape-letter combination 
should be

}\quotation{inserted in your text.  This would test whether the keys were 
still

}\quotation{generating the same values.


}Nothing happens when I press ctrl-X ctrl-Q <Find> or any other of these 
four. Sorry.

\quotation{
}
\quotation{A second test is this:  put in your ~/.atkinit file the line

}\quotation{	addkey "dynsearch-search-forward" k textview

}\quotation{and see if the k key initiates the search operation.  (You 
should fix

}\quotation{your .atkinit file right awayor you won't be able to type 
messages about

}\quotation{ at"k":-)


}This works. I could use the k key for search.\quotation{

}
\quotation{
}
\quotation{Anyway, please let me know what you find.

}
\quotation{Fred Hansen

}

Any idea ? Thanks in advance.

	\bold{\italic{Peter}}.



________________________________________________________

   Peter Haumer, Kaiserplatz 1, 52062 Aachen, Germany

   Phone: +49-(0)241-30798

   EMail: haumer@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (AMS,MINE)

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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 20-Apr-94 problems building
AUIS 6-2 .. Brad Z. - PSTAFF@ln.nimh (819)

> Here is the error message

> building (dependInstall) (/usr/local/src/andrew/auis-6.2/config)
>         make DESTDIR=/usr/andrew install
>         /usr/andrew/etc/install  -c -m 0444 ../DISCLAIMER 
> /usr/andrew/doc/DISCLAIMER

> make: fatal error: couldn't load '/usr/andrew/etc/install'
> (bu22):Permission denied.
> *** Error code 1 (bu21)

Can you send us the full make log?  Are you running make dependInstall
(or make World) from the top level of the source tree?

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium

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I too have embarked on the quest of porting AUIS-6.2 to IRIX 5.x.


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from info-andrew: 20-Apr-94 problems building AUIS 
6-2 .. Brad Z. - PSTAFF@ln.nimh (820)}



\quotation{I have experienced a small problem that I can not get past.  The

}\quotation{mode(permission) of /usr/andrew/etc/install is not be made 
executable

}\quotation{during the build and so the build fails.

}
\quotation{Here is the error message

}
\quotation{building (dependInstall) (/usr/local/src/andrew/auis-6.2/config)

}\quotation{        make DESTDIR=/usr/andrew install

}\quotation{        /usr/andrew/etc/install  -c -m 0444 ../DISCLAIMER 
 /usr/andrew/doc/DISCLAIMER

}
\quotation{make: fatal error: couldn't load '/usr/andrew/etc/install'

}
I've  been attempting to install AUIS-6.2 on IRIX 5.2.

The problem above is  just the first of 5 problems I've encountered

so far. I'm sort of discouraged at the moment with problem #5.  Here's how

I've solved the first four:


1) The problem you're seeing is a result of the pinstall program failing to

set the mode on /usr/andrew/etc/install properly.  Doing a chmod +x

on /usr/andrew/etc/install doesn't work, as it's just a copy of pinstall

and it won't set the modes of the things it's trying to install correctly

either.  I dbx'ed pinstall and found the the fchmod() call in 
auis-6.2/inst/inst.c

returns success, but isn't changing the file mode (!).  I know not why.

A fix is to replace the fchmod() with a chmod() call in the right place.

Pinstall then works fine. Here are the diffs:


81c381

< /*    if (fchmod(ofd, mode) < 0)

---

>       if (fchmod(ofd, mode) < 0)

388c388

< */

---

> 

411,418c411

<        if (chmod(pnametmp, mode) < 0)

<           \{printf("Couldn't chmod output temp file ``%s'': %s\\n",

<                   pnametmp, ErrorString(errno));

<            unlink(pnametmp); 

<            rcode = 1;

<            continue;

<           \}

< 

---

> 


2)  Compiling andrew malloc() dies while messing about with assembler files.

      Here are the errrors:


cc -G 0 -cckr -c  -O -I.  -I/usr/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/andrew/include 
 -I/usr/include -DSYSV -D_BSD_SIGNALS -DWORD=4 -DMSTATS malloc.c

        rm -f getcallr.o ,getcallr.s ,getcallr.c

        cp getcallr.spp ,getcallr.c

        cc -G 0 -cckr -E  -O -I.  -I/usr/andrew/include/atk 
-I/usr/andrew/include  -I/usr/include -DSYSV -D_BSD_SIGNALS -DWORD=4 -DMSTATS 
 ,getcallr.c > ,getcallr.s

        as -nocpp -o getcallr.o ,getcallr.s

as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 117:undefined assembler operation: 
typedef

     typedef int __int32_t

as0: Error: /usr/include/sgidefs.h, line 118:undefined assembler operation: 
typedef


I fixed this just by putting 

#undef ANDREW_MALLOC_ENV

in my site.h


3)  The compile for entry.s  in auis-6.2/overhead/class/machdep

      fails (again with errors indicating that the assembler is getting C

     code passed to it some how).  A fix for this is to change the Imakefile

    there to run the assembler directly.  Here are the diffs:

39,41c39

< 	as -I. -o entry.o entry.s

< 

< #cc -c -I. entry.s

---

> 	cc -c -I. entry.s


4) The static version of libX11 (libX11.a) is missing from /usr/lib

     (under 5.2 anyway, even when I installed EVERYTHING from the

      5.2 CD).   One fix is to:  ln -s /usr/irix4/usr/lib/libX11.a 
/usr/lib/libX11.a


a kludge, I admit.  Anyone know if this is a bad thing to do?


5) Here's the problem that has  got me discouraged at the moment:

building (dependInstall) (/a1/auis-6.2/overhead/class/cmd)

        ../../.././config/depend.csh /usr/bin/X11/makedepend 
/usr/andrew/bin/class \\

        "-I. -I../machdep/machine -I../lib -I/usr/andrew/include/atk 
-I/usr/andrew/include  -I/usr/include" "-DSYSV -D_BSD_SIGNALS "

Cannot access *.ch: No such file or directory

        make DESTDIR=/usr/andrew install

        rm -f dofix

        ld -r -d /usr/lib/crt1.o ../machdep/machine/dofix.o 
 /usr/andrew/lib/libclass.a  /usr/lib/libX11.a      /usr/andrew/lib/libatkos.a 
 -lsun      -lc_s \\

        /usr/lib/crtn.o -lc -o dofix.raw

ld:

Can't locate file for: -lsun

------------------------

OK, looks like ld doesn't know to look in /usr/lib since libsun.a is there?

If we hack the Makefile (I'd hack the Imakefile, but I don't know where

the macros are defined) to replace -lsun with /usr/lib/libsun.a and

to replace -lc_s with /usr/lib/libc_s.a, we get:


ld: Can't link shared object /usr/lib/libc_s.a in non-shared link


Hmm... maybe this is related to the hack I did above with libX11.a?

So let's try replacing the /usr/lib\{sun.a, c_s.a\} strings with

/usr/irix4/usr/lib/\{sun.a, c_s.a\}.  This gets us:


ld: Object file format error in: /usr/irix4/usr/lib/libc_s.a(cuexit.o): mixed 
PIC and non-PIC files are incompatible with -r


Arrggh!  Any SGI-andrew  gurus out there who can make order out of

all this chaos?


Thanks,

	Bill Schell

	AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ

	bill@allegra.att.com




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\quotation{Nothing happens when I press ctrl-X ctrl-Q <Find> or any other 
of these four. Sorry.

}
If these keys are generating no codes, it easy to understand why you can't 
bind them.  But I cannot understand how they are not now generating codes 
and yet were under AUIS 5.1.  The keysym mapping code is unchanged.  \



Has your X server changed?  Are you modifying the keyboard layout with 
xmodmap?


It might help to send the output of \


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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 20-Apr-94 Re: problems
building AUIS .. Bill Schell@allegra.att. (4757+0)

>      ld -r -d /usr/lib/crt1.o ../machdep/machine/dofix.o 
> /usr/andrew/lib/libclass.a  /usr/lib/libX11.a     
> /usr/andrew/lib/libatkos.a  -lsun      -lc_s \
>         /usr/lib/crtn.o -lc -o dofix.raw

This link line is apparently some very special very touchy magic.  It
may be completely obsolete in IRIX 5.

Could you check to see if there is a man page for dlopen?  Or
investigate whether IRIX 5 claims to have some other sort of OS support
for dynamic loading?

-Rob Ryan
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Subject: A minor nuisance

This has been bothering me for years, and I was wondering if anyone knew
how to fix it.  There's a problem with .messagesinit entries that look like
this:<nl>
<nl>
<leftindent><smaller><smaller>addmenu messages-compound-operation
"Custom~99,Acknowledge Cookie Order~82" messages filter inherit
"messages-resend shana ; messages-send-message ; messages-reply-to-sender;
messages-sendmessage-compound sendmessage-insert-file
/home/nsb/.gs-cookie-thanks; messages-sendmessage-compound
sendmessage-excerpt-body;  messages-sendmessage-compound
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untyped-bodies-textview-compound textview-beginning-of-text;
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messages-bodies-compound untyped-bodies-textview-compound
textview-end-of-text; messages-bodies-compound
untyped-bodies-textview-compound textview-select-region;
messages-bodies-compound untyped-bodies-textview-compound
untyped-filter-filter-region-thru-command cat - /home/nsb/.newline >> 
/home/nsb/COOKIE-ORDER ; messages-delete-current"<nl>
</smaller></smaller></leftindent><nl>
No, you don't need to read it all.  What's relevant is that it uses the
"filter" package.  Now, entries like this work fine IF you have already
forced the dynamic loading of the filter package.  If you haven't, however,
you get a dialog box telling you that the filter-region stuff is in the
proc table but hasn't been loaded, or something like that.  If you type
^X-|, and then abort with ^G, you can start using the customized stuff
successfully.<nl>
<nl>
Does anyone know how to get the filter stuff to autoload either at startup
or the first time you use a customized menu entry like this one?  --
Nathaniel<nl>
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<bold><excerpt>Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 21-Apr-94 A minor
nuisance Nathaniel Borenstein@nsb (1635+0)</excerpt></bold><nl>
<nl>
<excerpt>Does anyone know how to get the filter stuff to autoload either at
startup or the first time you use a customized menu entry like this
one?<nl>
</excerpt><nl>
I believe you can load packages (or any dynamic object) at startup time
with a line like:<nl>
<nl>
load classname<nl>
<nl>
in your .*init files.<nl>
<nl>
<bold><excerpt>Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 21-Apr-94 A minor
nuisance Nathaniel Borenstein@nsb (1635+0)</excerpt></bold><nl>
<nl>
<excerpt>addmenu messages-compound-operation "Custom~99,Acknowledge Cookie
Order~82" messages filter inherit<nl>
<nl>
</excerpt>I take it filter above was an earlier attempt to get it to be
autoloaded?  As far as I know the only way to get it to be corrcttedly
auto-loaded in this case would be to fix messages-compound-operation to do
a class_Load and try again when it encounters something which hasn't been
loaded.<nl>
<nl>
-Rob Ryan<nl>
Andrew Consortium<nl>
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\quotation{What's relevant is that it uses the "filter" package.  Now, 
entries like this work fine IF you have already forced the dynamic loading 
of the filter package.  If you haven't, however, you get a dialog box 
telling you that the filter-region stuff is in the proc table but hasn't 
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}
The problem is in atkams/messages/lib/stubs.c, where we find the code 
below.  To get the observed behavior, you must also have a reference to the 
filter function in a .atkinit or other .xxxxinit file;  this puts the name 
into the proctable, but does not load the function definition.  Careful 
reading of the code shows that in this case you get the message:


	The name %s is in the proc table but the function is undefined.


The fix will be to call proctable_ForceLoaded(cmds) at the beginning.


Fred Hansen




	ptent = proctable_Lookup(cmds);

	if (!ptent) \{

	    char *s = index(cmds, '-');

	    if (s) *s = '\\0';

	    class_Load(cmds);

	    if (s) *s = '-';

	    ptent = proctable_Lookup(cmds);

	    if (!ptent) \{

		sprintf(ErrorText, "The name %s is not in the proc table.", cmds);

		message_DisplayString(v, 75, ErrorText);

		++Messages_Global_Error_Count;

		free(cmdstofree);

		return(-1);

	    \}

	\}

	thisproc = proctable_GetFunction(ptent);

	if (!thisproc) \{

	    sprintf(ErrorText, "The name %s is in the proc table but the function 
is undefined.", cmds);

	    message_DisplayString(v, 75, ErrorText);

	    ++Messages_Global_Error_Count;

	    free(cmdstofree);

	    return(-1);

	\}

	thisproc(v, args);

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<bold><excerpt>Excerpts from info-andrew: 22-Apr-94 Re: A minor nuisance
Robert Andrew Ryan@andre (899+0)</excerpt></bold><nl>
<nl>
<excerpt>I believe you can load packages (or any dynamic object) at startup
time with a line like:<nl>
</excerpt><nl>
<excerpt>load classname<nl>
</excerpt><nl>
<excerpt>in your .*init files.<nl>
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Sounds like just what I needed thanks!  -- NB
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Hi


I'm trying to build AUIS6.2.1 on sun4_413. \



In directory overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc_41 I get:


\example{\smaller{../../../.././config/depend.csh /usr/X11/bin/makedepend 
/share/build/dest/andrew.sun4_4/bin/class \\

"-I.  -I/share/build/dest/andrew.sun4_4/include/atk 
-I/share/build/dest/andrew.sun4_4/include  -I/usr/X11/include" " "

*.ch not found

make DESTDIR=/share/build/dest/andrew.sun4_4 install

mkdir tmp; \\

cd tmp; \\

ar x /usr/lib/libresolv.a; \\

ld -assert pure-text -o libresolv.a *.o

ld: gethostnamadr.o: assert pure-text failed: reference to [offset] at 44 
in gethostnamadr.o

ld: gethostnamadr.o: assert pure-text failed: reference to [offset] at 5c 
in gethostnamadr.o

ld: gethostnamadr.o: assert pure-text failed: reference to _dn_expand at 7c 
in gethostnamadr.o

ld: gethostnamadr.o: assert pure-text failed: reference to [offset] at 90 
in gethostnamadr.o

ld: gethostnamadr.o: assert pure-text failed: reference to [offset] at 9c 
in gethostnamadr.o

ld: gethostnamadr.o: assert pure-text failed: reference to _strlen at a0 in 
gethostnamadr.o

ld: gethostnamadr.o: assert pure-text failed: reference to _dn_skipname at 
c4 in gethostnamadr.o

ld: gethostnamadr.o: assert pure-text failed: reference to [offset] at e0 
in gethostnamadr.o

}}\smaller{\leftindent{\italic{...

Zillions of lines deleted

....}}}\example{\smaller{

*** Error code 2

make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `libresolv.a'

Current working directory 
/tmp_mnt/nfs/share.build/m/ATK621.sun4_4/overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc_41\

*** Error code 1

make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `dependInstall'


}}I've never seen this one before. Do I have to care ?. What shall I do ?



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Assertion on libresolv.a fa.. Christer Bernerus@cs.cha (1850+0)}


\quotation{mkdir tmp; \\

}\quotation{cd tmp; \\

}\quotation{ar x /usr/lib/libresolv.a; \\

}\quotation{ld -assert pure-text -o libresolv.a *.o

}
This looks like the patch did not apply properly.  In the 6.2.1 version of 
that makefile the section referenced above has been removed.  Most likely 
patch was invoked without the -p flag.  (Sigh, I thought there was a README 
in the patches directory describing that, but there isn't.)  I believe you 
should be able to apply the patch again, but answer no whenever it suggests 
that a patch has been previously applied.


-Rob Ryan

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Dear Sirs,

	How can I purchase or recieve a manual for Andrew?

Sincerely,

David G. Boney				AF&AM

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Hey, is there any plans to port the Andrew User Interface System to
DEC Alpha OSF/1 ????  It seems like if it works with a DECstation
it should be OK....has anyone done this????? Should I try or wait
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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 28-Apr-94 Frederick A
Niles@axp745 (270)

> Hey, is there any plans to port the Andrew User Interface System to
> DEC Alpha OSF/1 ????

A port was started on the Alpha, but abandoned due to time pressures. A
great deal has been done to make AUIS easier to port since then though. 
When last I saw ATK running on an Alpha dynamic loading didn't work and
dialog boxes wouldn't come up.  There are currently no plans to port
AUIS 6 to the Alpha due to lack of personnel.
We would be happy to give what advice and assistance we can to anyone
who wishes to work on an Alpha port.  The starting point is to read
config/PORTING.doc in the sources.  The only other clues I know are that
CLASS_CTRAMPOLINE_ENV should probably be used, care needs to be taken
with int * vs long * (particularly in atk/basics/x), and the dynamic
loading might be usefully based on the code in
overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc_51 (aka solaris.)

Note that the 64 bit vs 32 bit size for long will almost certainly cause
some problems.ss

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium
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Hi,
I am trying to install auis 6.2.1 on solaris 2.3 with gcc 2.4.5...
But I an encountering many many problems.
My log follows...

---- log ---

chmod +x ./config/mkdirs
Checking Destination Directories....
Checking Destination Directories....
-n 
-n 
touch install.time
-n 
-n 
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/ossupport)
Checking Destination Directories....
-n 
touch install.time
-n 
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/ossupport/solaris)
Checking Destination Directories....
-n 
touch install.time
-n 
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/inst)
./pinstall -c -m 0555 pinstall /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/etc/install
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/config)
(cd /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/config; \
rm -f andrewos.h andyenv.h system.h aconcat.h allsys.h site.h; \
ln -s ../include/andrewos.h andrewos.h; \
ln -s ../include/andyenv.h andyenv.h; \
ln -s ../include/system.h system.h; \
ln -s ../include/aconcat.h aconcat.h; \
ln -s ../include/allsys.h allsys.h; \
ln -s ../include/site.h site.h; )
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/genmake)
rm -f genmake
sed -e 's#/usr/local/bin/imake#"imake -DSOLARIS"#g'<genmake.proto>genmake
/usr/ucb/install  -c -m 0555 genmake   /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/bin/genmake
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/sys)
%%%% Now attempting execution of the installed 'sys' program.
%%%% If this execution does not work for some reason,
%%%%    it may indicate a serious problem with your
%%%%    Andrew system configuration.
%%%% If execution appears successful, the installation will continue.
%%%% Otherwise, it should stop here, and you should
%%%%    correct the apparent problem.
Result of executing /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/bin/sys is:
sun4_51
%%%% Execution appears to have been successful.
%%%% Installation continues.
%%%% Executing the configuration tester.
./conftest
conftest: Checking configuration for sys type ``sun4_51'', full name ``SUN4_SVR4''
Sys type sun4_51 is most like System V.
conftest: Checking for problems in the allsys.h/system.h/site.h files.
conftest: No inconsistencies detected in the allsys.h/system.h/site.h files.
conftest: No inconsistencies found.  Continuing.
%%%% No problems discovered.  Continuing with the build.
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/util)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/util/hdrs)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/util/lib)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/util/lib/samples)
Checking Destination Directories....
Checking Destination Directories....
-n 
-n 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.Xdefaults /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.Xdefaults 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.atkinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.atkinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.cshrc /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.cshrc 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.cshrc /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.cshrc 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.ezinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.ezinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.helpinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.helpinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.messagesinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.messagesinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.preferences /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.preferences 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.sendmessageinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.sendmessageinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 bobg.typescriptinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/bobg.typescriptinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.atkinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.atkinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.bushinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.bushinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.cshrc /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.cshrc 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.ezinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.ezinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.gdbinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.gdbinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.login /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.login 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.messagesinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.messagesinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.pipescriptinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.pipescriptinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ghoti.preferences /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/ghoti.preferences 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jhh.Xclients /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jhh.Xclients 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jhh.atkinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jhh.atkinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jhh.cshrc /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jhh.cshrc 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jhh.ezinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jhh.ezinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jhh.login /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jhh.login 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jhh.messagesinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jhh.messagesinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jhh.preferences /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jhh.preferences 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jhh.sendmessageinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jhh.sendmessageinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.atkinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.atkinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.consoleinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.consoleinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.cshrc /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.cshrc 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.ezinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.ezinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.gdbinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.gdbinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.messages-sendinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.messages-sendinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.pipescriptinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.pipescriptinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.preferences /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.preferences 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.sendmessageinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.sendmessageinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 jz1j.typescriptinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/jz1j.typescriptinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 mcinerny.atkinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/mcinerny.atkinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 mcinerny.cshrc /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/mcinerny.cshrc 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 mcinerny.ezinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/mcinerny.ezinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 mcinerny.login /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/mcinerny.login 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 mcinerny.messagesinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/mcinerny.messagesinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 mcinerny.preferences /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/mcinerny.preferences 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 global.atkinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/global.atkinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 global.ezinit /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/global.ezinit 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 README.ez /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/samples/README.ez 
touch install.time
-n 
-n 
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/util/cmd)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/addalias)
Checking Destination Directories....
-n 
touch install.time
-n 
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/errors)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/index)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/malloc)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/class)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/class/machdep)
rm -f machine
ln -s sun_sparc_51 machine
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/class/machdep/sun_sparc_51)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/class/lib)
rm -f  /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libclass.so
ln -s /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libclass.so.1.0  /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libclass.so
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/class/cmd)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/class/pp)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/class/testing)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/class/doc)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/rxp)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/bison)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/mkparser)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/eli)
Checking Destination Directories....
-n 
touch install.time
-n 
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/eli/hdrs)
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/eli/elifiles)
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 elilib.eli /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/eli/elilib.eli 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 flames.eli /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/eli/flames.eli 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 ints.eli /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/eli/ints.eli 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 lists.eli /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/eli/lists.eli 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 mapcar.eli /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/eli/mapcar.eli 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 misc.eli /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/eli/misc.eli 
+ /usr/ucb/install -c -m 0444 strings.eli /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/eli/strings.eli 
touch install.time
touch install.doc
installing (/usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/eli/lib)
rm -f ecommon.o
gcc  -c  -O -I. -I../hdrs -I../lclhdrs -I/usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/include/atk -I/usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/include  -I/usr/openwin/include -DSOLARIS -DSYSV  ecommon.c
ecommon.c:45: eliy.h: No such file or directory
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `ecommon.o'
Current working directory /usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/eli/lib
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `Install'
Current working directory /usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead/eli
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `Install'
Current working directory /usr1/ftp/pub/HCI/andrew/auis-6.2/overhead
*** Error code 1
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `Install'

--- end of log ---

Where is the eliy.h on earth?
Thanks in advance....

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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 1-May-94 Help again! Sangeuk
Kim@stella.poste (2252*)

> gcc  -O -I.  -I/usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/include/atk
> -I/usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/include  -I/usr/openwin/include -DSOLARIS -DSYSV
>  -o bglisp  bglisp.o  /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libeli.a
> /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/librxp.a  /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libutil.a
> /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libafs.a
> /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libcparser.a -lresolv  -lsocket -lnsl -lelf 
> /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libossup.a    
> Undefined			first referenced
>  symbol  			    in file
> eliy_New                           
> /usr1/Solaris2/Andrew/lib/libeli.a(ecommon.o)

This appears to be another symptom of the 6.2.1 patch problem with
patching the Imakefiles.  For some reason some patch programs try to
apply all the Imakefile patches to the top level Imakefile instead of
the correct Imakefiles.  Recovery options include:

Apply the patch again with:

patch -p<patch-6.2.1

it will then ask for post files a question about whether to apply the
patch assuming -R.  Answer no to these questions.

Alterantively if you can start over with the original auis-6.2 sources
and apply the patch with the command above it should just work.

You can also edit the patch file to remove all the non-Imakefile
patches, and then use patch -p on the edited version of the patch file.

Or finally when the build fails you can find the relevant section of the
patch and apply it manually.

Sorry for the confusion and inconvenience,
-Rob Ryan
Andrew Consortium

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