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1992 15:17:45 -0500 (EST) From: Bill Cattey <wdc@Athena.MIT.EDU> To:
gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu, info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Diffs for
LineThruFormatNotes preference. 
The following context diffs will modify textv.ch, textv.c, and
drawtxtv.c to add a new preference:  LineThruFormatNotes.  Default
false.  If true, format notes, when drawn on the screen, come up with a
line through them. 
It is my fervent hope that this code can be incorporated in a subsequent
release of Andrew as standard. 
Share and enjoy, -wdc 
*** textv.ch~	Mon Mar 30 15:45:14 1992 --- textv.ch	Mon Mar 30 16:12:46
1992 *************** *** 219,224 **** --- 219,228 ----       int
pixelsShownOffTop;       int pixelsReadyToBeOffTop;       int
pixelsComingOffTop; + +     /* This parameter determines if we draw a
line through format +      * notes when we display them on the screen.
*/ +     int LineThruFormatNotes;   };     #define EMACS	0 ***
textv.c~	Mon Mar 30 15:46:18 1992 --- textv.c	Mon Mar 30 16:13:38 1992
*************** *** 143,148 **** --- 143,150 ----        
self->ScreenScaleMul = environ_GetProfileInt("TabScalingMultiplier",
14);       self->ScreenScaleDiv  =
environ_GetProfileInt("TabScalingDivisor", 12); +    
self->LineThruFormatNotes = +      
environ_GetProfileSwitch("LineThruFormatNotes", FALSE);         if
((font = environ_GetProfile("bodyfont")) == NULL || !
fontdesc_ExplodeFontName(font, bodyFont, sizeof(bodyFont), &fontStyle,
&fontSize)) {   	strcpy(bodyFont, "Andy"); *** drawtxtv.c~	Mon Mar 30
15:38:31 1992 --- drawtxtv.c	Mon Mar 30 16:14:24 1992 ***************
*** 1391,1403 ****                                  
textview_DrawString(self,                                          
sPtr, graphic_ATBASELINE);                               if
(tt->ti_styleFlags & !                               (style_Underline |
style_ChangeBar | ! 			       style_PassThru | !                        
       style_OverBar)) {                                   DrawBar(self,
tt, bx, by,                                    
StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +                                  
  tt->ti_rSpaces * currentBump); !                             }        
                  }   		    }   		} else if (type ==
textview_GetPosition) { --- 1391,1406 ----                              
    textview_DrawString(self,                                          
sPtr, graphic_ATBASELINE);                               if
(tt->ti_styleFlags & !                               (style_Underline |
style_ChangeBar | style_OverBar)) {                                  
DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,                                    
StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) + + 				  tt->ti_rSpaces *
currentBump); + 			    } +                             if
((tt->ti_styleFlags & style_PassThru) && self->LineThruFormatNotes) { + 
                               DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by, +              
                    StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +              
                      tt->ti_rSpaces * currentBump); ! 			    }         
                 }   		    }   		} else if (type ==
textview_GetPosition) { *************** *** 1464,1474 ****              
        /* line item (this is done before we mess with the */           
           /* buffer, bx, spaceBump, etc. */                       if
(tt->ti_styleFlags & !                       (style_Underline |
style_ChangeBar | style_PassThru | style_OverBar))                      
    DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,                            
StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +                            
tt->ti_rSpaces * (currentBump + 1) -                            
foundSpaces);   		    info->lineBuffer[zapPos] = '  
			textview_MoveTo(self, bx, by); --- 1467,1484 ----                    
  /* line item (this is done before we mess with the */                 
     /* buffer, bx, spaceBump, etc. */                       if
(tt->ti_styleFlags & !                       (style_Underline |
style_ChangeBar | style_OverBar)) {                          
DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,                            
StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +                            
tt->ti_rSpaces * (currentBump + 1) - + 			  foundSpaces); + 		     + 		 
  if ((tt->ti_styleFlags & style_PassThru) && self->LineThruFormatNotes)
{ +                         DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by, +                 
         StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) + +                       
   tt->ti_rSpaces * (currentBump + 1) -                            
foundSpaces); + 		    }   		    info->lineBuffer[zapPos] = '  
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To: info-andrew+ <info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Questions &
class -p bug? 
Hi my group is starting to use the ATK (no mail, no file sys) from the
rev5 X release and we have a few questions: 
1) Is there a referance manual for the ATK?  Other documentation?  We   
are using the class .doc files and help stuff plus Borenstein's book   
and lots of source code reading.  The epilogue of the book points us   
to the "voluminous reference manual"? 
2) I am interested in using the -p option to class, but it seems to be  
 buggy.  A prototype in a .ch file with no place holder generates bad   
C.  This can be worked around by always including place holders,   
but...  An example:    	/* from
.../atk/examples/atkbook/hwanim/hanimapp.ch */      
InitializeObject(struct hanimapp *) returns boolean;	       | 				      
				       | 	/* After class -p the .eh reads */		       /*BAD*/ V      
boolean hanimapp__InitializeObject(struct classheader *, struct * ); 
	/* A fixed version */		V       InitializeObject(struct hanimapp *a)
returns boolean; 
   Does anyone out there build the system using prototypes?  I started  
 to, but after the make died several times in example dirs I stopped.   
Each file that stopped the make could be fixed, but the ATK has a lot   
of files.  Has anyone had success with this? 
3) Are we up to date?  Are there important patches or new versions out  
 there? More classes or insets? 
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I read a book about Andrew Toolkit. It's been a while since the 
publication of that book. I could not find the support of video and 
audio process in the book. Since it's been a while since the 
publication of the book, could you please tell me if there is any  such
support yet? Thanks a lot. 
--- Jimmy M. Ferng              | University of Arizona Internet:
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There is a risk that if you fool with the attributes of the FormatNote
and add other things besides style_PassThru, that some present or future
version of txttroff.c will attempt to format it in SPITE of the fact
that it shouldn't. 
Inasmuch as the relevant routine in txttroff.c is a single procedure in
excess of 500 lines long with static variables which calls itself
recursively, I don't like to do ANYTHING that adds to the number of
things future maintainers of it will have to remember. 
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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 27-Mar-92 Question on console
and chart Chandra Venkatraman@iag. (1253) 
> Questions: > 1. In HP-UX, how can I use the External Function
available in console? > Some examples will be useful. 
An example: 
Note:  this hasn't been tested on HP-UX, but works on a RS/6000 and IBM RT. 
#!/bin/csh -f 
set histchars = '' 
set hosts = (atk.itc.cmu.edu akron.andrew.cmu.edu bangor.andrew.cmu.edu
fallscree k.andrew.cmu.edu) 
while (1)         set i = 1         foreach host ($hosts)               
 ping -s $host 64 1 >& /dev/null                 if ($status != 0) then 
                       echo "!@#EXTERNAL: m$i 1 $host is DEAD" >
/dev/console                 else                         echo
"!@#EXTERNAL: m$i 0 $host is fine" > /dev/console                 endif 
               @ i ++         end         sleep 120 end 

Fragment from the console which used ping.csh: 
@instrument{         Function External2,         ExternalName m2,       
 Boxed,         DisplayType Indicator,         Text "Akron",        
LeftClickTo ErrorLog,         LeftClickString "*",        
HighlightInvertMin 1,         xmin 11, xmax 20, ymin 80, ymax 99,       
 TextFont Andy6 
Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 27-Mar-92 Question on console
and chart Chandra Venkatraman@iag. (1253) 
> 2. Can I use chart in the following manner?   Set a refresh rate (say
5, > meaning 5 times a minute); and refresh the file being chart-ed. 
The > real-time process can modify the file as and when the data
changes.   If > this is possible, any suggestions/hints  (via ness or
otherwise) will be > usefil. 
Using chart and some auxilary C code and/or classes, you have a couple
of options. 
1. boolean im_AddFileHandler(FILE *fp, procedure proc, char *procdata,
long priority) 
This would allow you to have the chart update based on data coming in
from a pipe, or over a network connection.  Priority should be a small
integer the exact value isn't very important, it simply determines which
file handler will be ignored if there are too many. The procedure proc
will be called as: 
	foo(fp, procdata) 
If the AddFileHandler call fails because too many file handlers are in
use it will return FALSE, otherwise it returns TRUE. 
2. struct event *im_EnqueueEvent(procedure proc, char *procdata, long
timeIncrement) Returns an object of type event, if you hold on to this
pointer you can cancel the event before it happens by calling
event_Cancel on it. The procedure proc will be called as: 	foo(procdata,
currentTime); 
timeIncrement and currentTime are in magical numbers, the event class
provides macros to convert between real time and magic time.  They are:
event_TUtoSEC(x) event_TUtoUSEC(x) event_TUtoMSEC(x) event_SECtoTU(x)
event_USECtoTU(x) event_MSECtoTU(x) event_ENDOFTIME 
So to queue something for 5 seconds in the future it would be: struct
event *fivefromnow=im_EnqueueEvent(foo, 42, event_SECtoTU(5)); 
There are probably still more ways, perhaps using timers and handling
SIGALRM... 
Hope this helps, -Rob Ryan Andrew Toolkit Consortium Return-path:
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To: info-andrew <info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: complex forms? 
I'm trying to build an application which has dialog boxes with more then
one "question" in them.  For example: on startup we would like to
present a login box.  This would have 2 string entries and at least a
cancel/quit button.  Latter boxes would have more "widgets".  ADEW looks
like the right thing.  I've built the login box and createcon'ed it as
an inset.  This works fine when I paste it into an ez doc, but when I
replace the text inset in the hw example with my new inset, the inset
losses all of its labels!  What an I doing wrong? 
Assuming I can get this to work (Is this the right aproach?) is there a
simple way to get message_AskForString() like behavior from such an
inset?  If not I'll just replace the im's view with the inset. 
Is there an example of this somewhere? 
Thanks in advance,  Eric 
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info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Problem : AndrewR5  on X terminal 
Hi, 
Displaying Andrew programs on an mono NCD X terminal  give us strange
scroolbars  and dialog  windows  ( a kind of white bars appear on the
middle). 
We got the same strange effect when we used a mono X Sun  server which
loads the andrew  fonts from a XR5 font server. 
It seems that the X servers are not able any more to  correctly display
the patterns used to paint the shadows.  Oddly ,  when we tried to use
black and white colors to display the shadows ( by the resource
mechanism )  the programs just seems to ignore the preferences. 
Any hint will be appreciated. 
Thanks in advance . 



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Informatic Systems Engeneering Institute (ISEI) 21020 ISPRA(VA) ITALY
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I E-mail: j_perdigao@jrc.it 
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Adam Stoller <ghoti+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes: > You might want to send
mail to <special-projects@andrew.cmu.edu> - they > are a separate and
distinct organization from the ATK Consortium - but > responsible for
the current PC and Mac AMS application being used at > Carnegie-Mellon
University - something called "EZMail" (please note - > this has nothing
to do with the ATK "EZ" multi-media editor) 
	A few notes ... EZMail is on UNIX boxes or PCs, while MacMail is the
Mac side. There is no EZMail on the Macs. MacMail is also being
rewritten at the moment ... completetion date uncertain at this point,
but most likely sometime this summer. Both interfaces use/will use a
common server which runs on the UNIX side. 
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14:44:16 -0400 (EDT) From: "Anthony V. Edwards"
<tobeye@northstar.dartmouth.edu> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject:
ezprint memory fault on page feed 
For some reason, a lot of our users are now having this problem:  we
have a help document in straight ascii text (so users can lpr it or
ezprint it) and it has page feeds (^L) in it.  Ezprint used to handle
this just fine, but now it just memory faults.  Here's an example: 
------------------ BOF: /tmp/x.junk This is a line on the first page. 
This is a line on the second page. ------------------ EOF 
And here's what happens: 
% ezprint /tmp/x.junk Starting ezprint (Version 7.0, ATK 17.0); please
wait... Memory fault % 
By using the -troff option to ezprint, I've narrowed it down - the last
line output in troff is the 'first page.'  It never gets to the page
feed character. 
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Hi!  I would like to make my own version of the ctext template that is
used in conjunction with ez.  I have copied the file ctext.tpl to a
subdirectory in my account, but can not find out what the various
commands are that correspond to the various attributes that can be set
using lookZ from within ez.  Can you tell me where I can find this
information out?  Also, I would like to create a similar template for
Fortran, but after looking at the template file using vi, can not
discern how comments, functions and global text are recognized.  Is this
a part of ez, or is it something that can be done using the template
format?   Thanks in advance! 
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In article <1992Mar20.225354.4189@raid.dell.com>, jrh@mustang.dell.com
(Randy Howard) writes: ! ! Is anyone aware of an effort to port ATK to
SVR4/386 or something similar? ! Should the SCO port work as is?  I'm
looking into doing this, but am trying ! to avoid duplicate effort. ! !
-- ! Randy Howard                        @'s: jrh@dell.com ! Dell
Computer Corp.                 !'s: ...!uunet!dellunix!jrh  
Yes, ATK runs on SCO SV 3.2.2. There are some minor problems compiling
it - email me for the patch file. 
It seems like the original SCO install program does not work with the
original Imakefiles, so you need a BSD-compatible install. The install.c
supplied with andrew does not compile on SCO, so I ported it, though
there  probably is a pd install which is BSD-compatible and compiles on
SCO. 
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We run routinely on Graphons without any problem.  I think most of us
turn off the 3-D look & feel, however, which may make a difference.
We've also gone through several versions of the famous xgraphic patch,
and I'm therefore not sure whether or not we're running the same version
of it. 
The new Andrew release in April will, as I understand it, have the
xgraphic patch built-in.  If so, then at least we can start over with a
stable comparison state in figuring out what does & doesn't work on the
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I'd love to try it, but all our X terminals are NCD...  Are all the
fonts properly installed for the Graphon?  I can't see how the
xgraphic.c patch would affect text-drawing behavior, but it might have
something to do with the foreground and background color settings,
perhaps... 
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As I remember it, vui is the *direct* descent of the first msdos AMS
client, which was called PC-Messages.  This explains why some of the
options seem strange in unixland -- choosing to save to a "local" or
"remote" file. 
I once heard a claim that support for AMS to read netnews article trees
would show up, but haven't heard anything since.  Volunteers? -- 

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I am trying to compile and istall Andrew Distribuiton ver. 5.0.0 (1991)
that was in the contrib section of X11R5. When I tried to build the
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Excerpts from andrew.mailing-list: 8-Apr-92 Is this a Bug or what?
Dimitris K. - NRCPS@leon (321) 
> I am trying to compile and istall Andrew Distribuiton ver. 5.0.0
(1991) that > was in the contrib section of X11R5. When I tried to build
the Makefile with > the xmkmf,  I was reported an error on line 304
:Unexpected end of line. > Unfortunatelly I can't see  the problem . 
That an easy one, 
Read the README file in the root directory of the source. It says: .....
To create the top-level Makefile .... use the following command 	imake
-I. -I./config -Timake.tmpl -s Makefile -DTOPDIR=. 
If you didn't find that, then you probably forgot to set a lot of other
things too. 
Hope this helps, 
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