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Subject: Diffs for LineThruFormatNotes preference.

The following context diffs will modify textv.ch, textv.c, and
drawtxtv.c to add a new preference:  LineThruFormatNotes.  Default
false.  If true, format notes, when drawn on the screen, come up with a
line through them.

It is my fervent hope that this code can be incorporated in a subsequent
release of Andrew as standard.

Share and enjoy,
-wdc

*** textv.ch~	Mon Mar 30 15:45:14 1992
--- textv.ch	Mon Mar 30 16:12:46 1992
***************
*** 219,224 ****
--- 219,228 ----
      int pixelsShownOffTop;
      int pixelsReadyToBeOffTop;
      int pixelsComingOffTop;
+ 
+     /* This parameter determines if we draw a line through format
+      * notes when we display them on the screen. */
+     int LineThruFormatNotes;
  };
  
  #define EMACS	0
*** textv.c~	Mon Mar 30 15:46:18 1992
--- textv.c	Mon Mar 30 16:13:38 1992
***************
*** 143,148 ****
--- 143,150 ----
  
      self->ScreenScaleMul = environ_GetProfileInt("TabScalingMultiplier", 14);
      self->ScreenScaleDiv  = environ_GetProfileInt("TabScalingDivisor", 12);
+     self->LineThruFormatNotes =
+       environ_GetProfileSwitch("LineThruFormatNotes", FALSE);
  
      if ((font = environ_GetProfile("bodyfont")) == NULL || ! fontdesc_ExplodeFontName(font, bodyFont, sizeof(bodyFont), &fontStyle, &fontSize)) {
  	strcpy(bodyFont, "Andy");
*** drawtxtv.c~	Mon Mar 30 15:38:31 1992
--- drawtxtv.c	Mon Mar 30 16:14:24 1992
***************
*** 1391,1403 ****
                                  textview_DrawString(self,
                                          sPtr, graphic_ATBASELINE);
                              if (tt->ti_styleFlags &
!                               (style_Underline | style_ChangeBar |
! 			       style_PassThru |
!                                style_OverBar)) {
                                  DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,
                                    StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +
                                    tt->ti_rSpaces * currentBump);
!                             }
                          }
  		    }
  		} else if (type == textview_GetPosition) {
--- 1391,1406 ----
                                  textview_DrawString(self,
                                          sPtr, graphic_ATBASELINE);
                              if (tt->ti_styleFlags &
!                               (style_Underline | style_ChangeBar | style_OverBar)) {
                                  DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,
                                    StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +
+ 				  tt->ti_rSpaces * currentBump);
+ 			    }
+                             if ((tt->ti_styleFlags & style_PassThru) && self->LineThruFormatNotes) {
+                                 DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,
+                                   StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +
                                    tt->ti_rSpaces * currentBump);
! 			    }
                          }
  		    }
  		} else if (type == textview_GetPosition) {
***************
*** 1464,1474 ****
                      /* line item (this is done before we mess with the */
                      /* buffer, bx, spaceBump, etc. */
                      if (tt->ti_styleFlags &
!                       (style_Underline | style_ChangeBar | style_PassThru | style_OverBar))
                          DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,
                            StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +
                            tt->ti_rSpaces * (currentBump + 1) -
                            foundSpaces);
  		    info->lineBuffer[zapPos] = '\0';
  		    if (info->lineAbove + info->textBelow <= ySize) {
  			textview_MoveTo(self, bx, by);
--- 1467,1484 ----
                      /* line item (this is done before we mess with the */
                      /* buffer, bx, spaceBump, etc. */
                      if (tt->ti_styleFlags &
!                       (style_Underline | style_ChangeBar | style_OverBar)) {
                          DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,
                            StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +
                            tt->ti_rSpaces * (currentBump + 1) -
+ 			  foundSpaces);
+ 		    }
+ 		    if ((tt->ti_styleFlags & style_PassThru) && self->LineThruFormatNotes) {
+                         DrawBar(self, tt, bx, by,
+                           StringWidth(tt->ti_fontWidths, sPtr) +
+                           tt->ti_rSpaces * (currentBump + 1) -
                            foundSpaces);
+ 		    }
  		    info->lineBuffer[zapPos] = '\0';
  		    if (info->lineAbove + info->textBelow <= ySize) {
  			textview_MoveTo(self, bx, by);
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Hi my group is starting to use the ATK (no mail, no file sys) from the
rev5 X release and we have a few questions:

1) Is there a referance manual for the ATK?  Other documentation?  We
   are using the class .doc files and help stuff plus Borenstein's book
   and lots of source code reading.  The epilogue of the book points us
   to the "voluminous reference manual"?

2) I am interested in using the -p option to class, but it seems to be
   buggy.  A prototype in a .ch file with no place holder generates bad
   C.  This can be worked around by always including place holders,
   but...  An example:
   	/* from .../atk/examples/atkbook/hwanim/hanimapp.ch */
      InitializeObject(struct hanimapp *) returns boolean;	       |
				       				       |
	/* After class -p the .eh reads */		       /*BAD*/ V
      boolean hanimapp__InitializeObject(struct classheader *, struct * );

	/* A fixed version */		V
      InitializeObject(struct hanimapp *a) returns boolean;

   Does anyone out there build the system using prototypes?  I started
   to, but after the make died several times in example dirs I stopped.
   Each file that stopped the make could be fixed, but the ATK has a lot
   of files.  Has anyone had success with this?

3) Are we up to date?  Are there important patches or new versions out
   there? More classes or insets?

Thanks 
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The stock distribution has no real support for sound or video.  I believe 
there is an audio playback inset for Sparcstations in contrib, and there is 
the piano object for the IBM RT, but that's it.


Another group here at CMU has been working on using ATK with audio and video, 
but as far as I know they haven't made a public release.


-Rob Ryan

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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 2-Apr-92 Questions 
& class -p bug? Eric Baltischwiler@komsy (1353)}


\quotation{1) Is there a referance manual for the ATK?  Other documentation? 
 We

}\quotation{   are using the class .doc files and help stuff plus Borenstein's 
book

}\quotation{   and lots of source code reading.  The epilogue of the book 
points us

}\quotation{   to the "voluminous reference manual"?

}
Frankly, I can't recommend the "voluminous reference manual" while it does 
document many of the classes it is riddled with inaccuracies.    At some point 
we hope to be able to invest the time to update and correct this 
documentation.  The .doc files scattered throughout the source tree are 
probably just as good, though many are empty placeholders.  And there are some 
classes which don't have even an empty .doc file.


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 2-Apr-92 Questions 
& class -p bug? Eric Baltischwiler@komsy (1353)}


\quotation{2) I am interested in using the -p option to class, but it seems to 
be

}\quotation{   buggy.  A prototype in a .ch file with no place holder 
generates bad

}\quotation{   C. }


Unfortunately the prototyping support in the current release is half-done, and 
has been for some time now.  Class is currently undergoing a major overhaul 
for the Modula-3 project (being done by another group at CMU.)   Part of this 
overhaul includes improvements so that class -p should generate correct 
prototyping.


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 2-Apr-92 Questions 
& class -p bug? Eric Baltischwiler@komsy (1353)}


\quotation{3) Are we up to date?  Are there important patches or new versions 
out

}\quotation{   there? More classes or insets?

}
We are in the final stages of preparing the CDROM release. It will also be 
available through the usual anonymous ftp channels.  The only major bug fix I 
am aware of was the patch posted here awhile ago by Bill Janssen to fix 
xgraphic to work with more display types.


There are no new classes or insets in the CDROM release, the only big change 
is the addition of MIME support in AMS clients.


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Toolkit Consortium

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There is a risk that if you fool with the attributes of the FormatNote
and add other things besides style_PassThru, that some present or future
version of txttroff.c will attempt to format it in SPITE of the fact
that it shouldn't.

Inasmuch as the relevant routine in txttroff.c is a single procedure in
excess of 500 lines long with static variables which calls itself
recursively, I don't like to do ANYTHING that adds to the number of
things future maintainers of it will have to remember.

-wdc
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\quotation{It is my fervent hope that this code can be incorporated in a 
subsequent

}\quotation{release of Andrew as standard.

}
This should show up in the first release after the  CDROM release (neither 
date has been firmly fixed yet.)


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Has anyone met the problem (and preferably cured it) of not being able to 
print out the table of contents in a document when \typewriter{\smaller{groff}} 
is the processing engine for output?


I can see (via  \typewriter{\smaller{ezprint -t}}) that the table of contents 
macros are being output in what looks like normal fashion... 
\typewriter{\smaller{nroff}} and \typewriter{\smaller{troff}} are both happy 
with displaying contents.  \typewriter{\smaller{groff}} just seems to ignore 
it. 


[ATK version 5.0.0, SunOS 4.0, sparc.]


Nick.

System Architecture Research Centre, Computing Science Dept,

City University, Northampton Square, London  EC1V 0HB.

Phone: +44 71 477 8551		 FAX: +44 71 477 8587

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Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 27-Mar-92 Question on console
and chart Chandra Venkatraman@iag. (1253)

> Questions:
> 1. In HP-UX, how can I use the External Function available in console? 
> Some examples will be useful.

An example:

Note:  this hasn't been tested on HP-UX, but works on a RS/6000 and IBM RT.

#!/bin/csh -f

set histchars = ''

set hosts = (atk.itc.cmu.edu akron.andrew.cmu.edu bangor.andrew.cmu.edu
fallscree
k.andrew.cmu.edu)

while (1)
        set i = 1
        foreach host ($hosts)
                ping -s $host 64 1 >& /dev/null
                if ($status != 0) then
                        echo "!@#EXTERNAL: m$i 1 $host is DEAD" > /dev/console
                else
                        echo "!@#EXTERNAL: m$i 0 $host is fine" > /dev/console
                endif
                @ i ++
        end
        sleep 120
end


Fragment from the console which used ping.csh:

@instrument{
        Function External2,
        ExternalName m2,
        Boxed,
        DisplayType Indicator,
        Text "Akron",
        LeftClickTo ErrorLog,
        LeftClickString "*",
        HighlightInvertMin 1,
        xmin 11, xmax 20, ymin 80, ymax 99,
        TextFont Andy6
}
Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 27-Mar-92 Question on console
and chart Chandra Venkatraman@iag. (1253)

> 2. Can I use chart in the following manner?   Set a refresh rate (say 5,
> meaning 5 times a minute); and refresh the file being chart-ed.  The
> real-time process can modify the file as and when the data changes.   If
> this is possible, any suggestions/hints  (via ness or otherwise) will be
> usefil.

Using chart and some auxilary C code and/or classes, you have a couple
of options.

1. boolean im_AddFileHandler(FILE *fp, procedure proc, char *procdata,
long priority)

This would allow you to have the chart update based on data coming in
from a pipe, or over a network connection.  Priority should be a small
integer the exact value isn't very important, it simply determines which
file handler will be ignored if there are too many.
The procedure proc will be called as:

	foo(fp, procdata)

If the AddFileHandler call fails because too many file handlers are in
use it will return FALSE, otherwise it returns TRUE.

2. struct event *im_EnqueueEvent(procedure proc, char *procdata, long
timeIncrement)
Returns an object of type event, if you hold on to this pointer you can
cancel the event before it happens by calling event_Cancel on it.
The procedure proc will be called as:
	foo(procdata, currentTime);

timeIncrement and currentTime are in magical numbers, the event class
provides macros to convert between real time and magic time.  They are:
event_TUtoSEC(x)
event_TUtoUSEC(x)
event_TUtoMSEC(x)
event_SECtoTU(x) 
event_USECtoTU(x)
event_MSECtoTU(x)
event_ENDOFTIME

So to queue something for 5 seconds in the future it would be:
struct event *fivefromnow=im_EnqueueEvent(foo, 42, event_SECtoTU(5));

There are probably still more ways, perhaps using timers and handling
SIGALRM...

Hope this helps,
-Rob Ryan
Andrew Toolkit Consortium
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I'm trying to build an application which has dialog boxes with more
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Assuming I can get this to work (Is this the right aproach?) is there
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Is there an example of this somewhere?

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Dear Andrew users,


First my special thanks to every one that helped me with the installation of 
Andrew and the local bulletin board.


My next question is about adding non-unix messages-clients to Andrew. In the 
documentation the PC and Mac clients are mentioned several times. I understood 
the PC client is \italic{vui}, but that there is a native Mac version too 
(MacMessages). I not sure what to believe from the following discussion on 
comp.soft-sys.andrew;


\quotation{.......

- Where can I get hold of the PC and Mac versions? I assume the Mac version 
uses MacTCP, but whose TCP stack (e.g., FTP Software's) does the PC version 
use?

........

Jamey Maze 

}
\quotation{........

ATK/AMS are based on Unix.  There are PC versions for AIX, SCO Unix, and Mach 
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supported in the central sources, thanks to many generous people.

.........

Fred Hansen


}I reread the documentation, and it clearly says that there are clients for 
the PC and Mac. In the source code I even found instructions for building the 
PC client vui ($ANDREWSOURCE/ams/msclients/vui/HowToPC.d). So here are my 
questions:


- Are there clients for the PC (Ms-Dos) and the Mac (system6/7)?

- If yes, how can we obtain the sources/binaries?

- If yes, does any one has experience with with these clients?

- Can we run snapified clients without AMSDeliver?


The availabilty of at least the Mac client is very important. I don't think 
the introduction of Andrew would be a succes if we tell the Mac users to 
telnet to our unix host and use vui. 


Any help would be appreciated,


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Hi,

Displaying Andrew programs on an mono NCD X terminal  give us strange
scroolbars  and dialog  windows  ( a kind of white bars appear on the
middle).

We got the same strange effect when we used a mono X Sun  server which
loads the andrew  fonts from a XR5 font server.

It seems that the X servers are not able any more to  correctly display
the patterns used to paint the shadows.  Oddly ,  when we tried to use
black and white colors to display the shadows ( by the resource
mechanism )  the programs just seems to ignore the preferences.

Any hint will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance .




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You might want to send mail to <special-projects@andrew.cmu.edu> - they are a 
separate and distinct organization from the ATK Consortium - but responsible 
for the current PC and Mac AMS application being used at Carnegie-Mellon 
University - something called "EZMail" (please note - this has nothing to do 
with the ATK "EZ" multi-media editor)


--fish

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Adam Stoller <ghoti+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> You might want to send mail to <special-projects@andrew.cmu.edu> - they
> are a separate and distinct organization from the ATK Consortium - but
> responsible for the current PC and Mac AMS application being used at
> Carnegie-Mellon University - something called "EZMail" (please note -
> this has nothing to do with the ATK "EZ" multi-media editor)

	A few notes ... EZMail is on UNIX boxes or PCs, while MacMail
is the Mac side. There is no EZMail on the Macs. MacMail is also being
rewritten at the moment ... completetion date uncertain at this point,
but most likely sometime this summer. Both interfaces use/will use a
common server which runs on the UNIX side.

						dan
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forms? Eric Baltischwiler@komsy (814)}


\quotation{I'm trying to build an application which has dialog boxes with more

}\quotation{then one "question" in them.  For example: on startup we would 
like to

}\quotation{present a login box.  This would have 2 string entries and at 
least a

}\quotation{cancel/quit button.  Latter boxes would have more "widgets".  ADEW

}\quotation{looks like the right thing.  I've built the login box and 
createcon'ed

}\quotation{it as an inset.  This works fine when I paste it into an ez doc, 
but

}\quotation{when I replace the text inset in the hw example with my new inset, 
the

}\quotation{inset losses all of its labels!  What an I doing wrong?


}Most of ATK puts a frame object at the top of the view tree, and Adew insets 
take advantage of this.  The hello world examples leave out this step .  I can 
send you code to do what you want, \bold{however,} the \italic{runadew} 
program is basically designed to do just this, provide a simple framework for 
running Adew applications. You may want to see if it fills your needs before 
fiddling with this stuff (see the runadew section of the Adew reference 
manual). Alternately, you can look at the runadewa code (in atk/adew) to see 
what it does. 


The page object can be used to switch between different view or sets of views. 
One option is to make each question layout a different adew application, and 
then make a top level adew application that places each of the child 
applications on different pages, and then interacts with them to determine 
when and how to flip between them. 


\quotation{Assuming I can get this to work (Is this the right aproach?) is 
there

}\quotation{a simple way to get message_AskForString() like behavior from such 
an

}\quotation{inset?  If not I'll just replace the im's view with the inset.

}
I am not sure which behavior you are referring to. Adew applications can do 
anything any other ATK application, and can call message_AskForString() to do 
what is needed, however the enterstring object itself does not have hooks to 
allow for file completion or some of the other features provided by the ATK 
dialog box. 


	\quotation{Is there an example of this somewhere?

}
Have you looked at the Adew based prototype help program in the controllers 
directory?


	Tom N.

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For some reason, a lot of our users are now having this problem:  we
have a help document in straight ascii text (so users can lpr it or
ezprint it) and it has page feeds (^L) in it.  Ezprint used to handle
this just fine, but now it just memory faults.  Here's an example:

------------------ BOF: /tmp/x.junk
This is a line on the first page.

This is a line on the second page.
------------------ EOF

And here's what happens:

% ezprint /tmp/x.junk
Starting ezprint (Version 7.0, ATK 17.0); please wait...
Memory fault
%

By using the -troff option to ezprint, I've narrowed it down - the last
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We are still running ATK4 PL10 here, so please excuse this note if this
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Hi!  I would like to make my own version of the ctext template that is
used in conjunction with ez.  I have copied the file ctext.tpl to a
subdirectory in my account, but can not find out what the various
commands are that correspond to the various attributes that can be set
using lookZ from within ez.  Can you tell me where I can find this 
information out?  Also, I would like to create a similar template for
Fortran, but after looking at the template file using vi, can not
discern how comments, functions and global text are recognized.  Is this
a part of ez, or is it something that can be done using the template
format?   Thanks in advance!

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\quotation{Thanks for your answer to my last post.  I now have labels on my

buttons, but have another problem.


I can not get pointers to views in my inset!  I want to do this so

that I can move the input focus to the next enterStrV when the user

finishes a value (a la Mac).

...

}
Sorry, I guess this fix hasn't made it out yet. Try applying the following 
change to adew.h, and let me know if it fixes your problem, (the second 
version with the added lines is the correct one). This should cause the child 
view pointers to initialize correctly in all cases.


	Regards and good luck,

		Tom


*** adew.h Tue Apr  7 09:33:50 1992

--- adew.h.new   Tue Apr  7 09:44:35 EDT 1992

***************

*** 41,47 ****

        nm = cel_GetRefAtom(cel);\\

        for(aa = ARRAY; aa->object != NULL;aa++)\{\\

         if(aa->name == nm)\{\\

!         if(CLV)\{ *(aa->view) = celview_GetTrueChild((struct celview 
*)CLV);\\

         (*(ICNT))--;\}\\

          if(*(aa->object) != cel_GetObject(cel))\{\\

              *(aa->object) = cel_GetObject(cel);\\

--- 41,49 ----

        nm = cel_GetRefAtom(cel);\\

        for(aa = ARRAY; aa->object != NULL;aa++)\{\\

         if(aa->name == nm)\{\\

!         if(CLV)\{ \\

!           if(celview_GetTrueChild((struct celview *)CLV) == NULL) 
celview_InitChildren((struct celview *)CLV);\\

!            *(aa->view) = celview_GetTrueChild((struct celview *)CLV);\\

         (*(ICNT))--;\}\\

          if(*(aa->object) != cel_GetObject(cel))\{\\

              *(aa->object) = cel_GetObject(cel);\\

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In article <1992Mar20.225354.4189@raid.dell.com>, jrh@mustang.dell.com (Randy Howard) writes:
! 
! Is anyone aware of an effort to port ATK to SVR4/386 or something similar?
! Should the SCO port work as is?  I'm looking into doing this, but am trying
! to avoid duplicate effort.
! 
! -- 
! Randy Howard                        @'s: jrh@dell.com
! Dell Computer Corp.                 !'s: ...!uunet!dellunix!jrh  

Yes, ATK runs on SCO SV 3.2.2.
There are some minor problems compiling it - email me for the patch file.

It seems like the original SCO install program does not work with the
original Imakefiles, so you need a BSD-compatible install. The install.c 
supplied with andrew does not compile on SCO, so I ported it, though there  
probably is a pd install which is BSD-compatible and compiles on SCO.

Michael Kedem
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 7-Apr-92 Could you 
all field this on.. Tim Irvin@betelgeuse.Dar (1014)}


\quotation{Also, I would like to create a similar template for

}\quotation{Fortran, but after looking at the template file using vi, can not

}\quotation{discern how comments, functions and global text are recognized. 
 Is this a part of ez, or is it something that can be done using the template 
format?   Thanks in advance!

}
I'm afraid the best way to find out the names for attributes is to read other 
existing template files.  If you want to look at the source code it's in 
andrew/atk/support, style and stylesheet are the main source files of 
interest.


The recognition of comments, function names, etc is done with c-code.  We 
distribute appropriate insets for C, Lisp, Pascal, Modula-2 and Modula-3.  All 
of them except for the ctext inset are in andrew/contrib.  ctext is in 
andrew/atk/ctext.


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Toolkit Consortium


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Has anyone tried running Andrew Version 5 on a Graphon X terminal?  


We find that fonts in ATK application are "blacked-out" in various text areas, 
following our installation of the xgraphic patches to  a Sun Sparc2 platform 
running X11R4 and OS 4.1.1.  Un-patched ATK applications run fine on our 
Graphons.  As things are, the font problem is severe enough that we need to 
operate with two sets of Andrew binaries--one for X terminal use, and the 
other for use on console monitors.


Bob



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We run routinely on Graphons without any problem.  I think most of us
turn off the 3-D look & feel, however, which may make a difference. 
We've also gone through several versions of the famous xgraphic patch,
and I'm therefore not sure whether or not we're running the same version
of it.

The new Andrew release in April will, as I understand it, have the
xgraphic patch built-in.  If so, then at least we can start over with a
stable comparison state in figuring out what does & doesn't work on the
graphon... -- Nathaniel
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I'd love to try it, but all our X terminals are NCD...  Are all the
fonts properly installed for the Graphon?  I can't see how the
xgraphic.c patch would affect text-drawing behavior, but it might have
something to do with the foreground and background color settings,
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As I remember it, vui is the *direct* descent of the first msdos AMS
client, which was called PC-Messages.  This explains why some of
the options seem strange in unixland -- choosing to save to a "local" or
"remote" file.

I once heard a claim that support for AMS to read netnews article trees
would show up, but haven't heard anything since.  Volunteers?
-- 


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I am trying to compile and istall Andrew Distribuiton ver. 5.0.0 (1991) that
was in the contrib section of X11R5. When I tried to build the Makefile with
the xmkmf,  I was reported an error on line 304 :Unexpected end of line.
Unfortunatelly I can't see  the problem .

		Thanks In Response

						Dimitris Kaloyeras



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\quotation{When I tried to build the Makefile with the xmkmf,  I was reported 
an error on line 304 :Unexpected end of line.  Unfortunatelly I can't see  the 
problem .

}
The problem is that you didn't read the README file first - or carefully 
enough - otherwise you would not have used xmkmf.  

The Andrew Distribution has its own Imake config files and thus its own method 
for bootstrapping the creation of them.

I suggest you scan the README file for mention of "imake" - after that it 
should be a lot easier to build.


--fish

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Excerpts from andrew.mailing-list: 8-Apr-92 Is this a Bug or what?
Dimitris K. - NRCPS@leon (321)

> I am trying to compile and istall Andrew Distribuiton ver. 5.0.0 (1991) that
> was in the contrib section of X11R5. When I tried to build the Makefile with
> the xmkmf,  I was reported an error on line 304 :Unexpected end of line.
> Unfortunatelly I can't see  the problem .

That an easy one,

Read the README file in the root directory of the source. It says:
.....
To create the top-level Makefile .... use the following command
	imake -I. -I./config -Timake.tmpl -s Makefile -DTOPDIR=.

If you didn't find that, then you probably forgot to set a lot of other
things too.

Hope this helps,

Harco de Hilster
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\quotation{I'd love to try it, but all our X terminals are NCD...  Are all the 
}\quotation{fonts properly installed for the Graphon?  I can't see how the 
}\quotation{xgraphic.c patch would affect text-drawing behavior, but it might 
have }\quotation{something to do with the foreground and background color 
settings, }\quotation{perhaps...

}
\quotation{Bill

}
More grist for the mill:  I just ran an ATK application with my X11fonts 
directory unreadable to the owner of my X server (but readable to me)  My 
background came up in a REALLY wierd pattern even though it is normally white. 
 (This was on a monochrome screen.)


-wdc

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\quotation{I once heard a claim that support for AMS to read netnews article 
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}\quotation{would show up, but haven't heard anything since.  Volunteers?

}
It's in the distributed code, but needs serious debugging.  I don't volunteer, 
but will help anyone who does.

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\quotation{More grist for the mill:  I just ran an ATK application with my 
X11fonts directory unreadable to the owner of my X server (but readable to me) 
 My background came up in a REALLY wierd pattern even though it is normally 
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}
\quotation{-wdc

}
I'm not sure this has anything to do with Bob's problem, but I just saw the 
same thing that Bill describes on MacX, with typescript displaying on a Mac 
that did not have the ATK fonts loaded.  This is because all backgrounds (even 
black and white) are drawn with a `graphic' pattern, which is determined from 
one of the 17 characters in the font `xshape10' (what an intuitive name!). 
 Naturally, if `xshape10' cannot be loaded, `fixed' or some such bogus 
alternative is used instead, and your "white" pattern looks like a really 
wierd array of whatever control character glyphs are present in that font.  By 
the way, here are the patterns available in `xshape10':

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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 8-Apr-92 AMS with MIME 
support in th.. mike ganzberger@ganz.ner (942)}


\quotation{Could someone tell me where I can get the latest release of AMS 
which 

}\quotation{contains support for MIME, if it's available? Thanks.

}
I believe this release is imminent, but not yet available.  

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Thanks to James Clark....
Here is a temporary fix for printing table of contents using groff

---------- Forwarded message begins here ----------

Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 13:04:58 BST
From: jjc@jclark.com (James Clark)
To: njw
Subject: Cannot print table of contents with groff
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   DESCRIPTION OF INCORRECT BEHAVIOUR:
   The output of groff does not include the table of contents requested.
   This is consistent for all of the Andrew Toolkit output (i.e. using
   these macros).

This looks like a bug in groff.  I don't yet know exactly how this
should be fixed, but you should be able to work around it by changing
tmac.atk like this:

*** tmac.atk.~1~	Thu Apr  9 11:42:28 1992
--- tmac.atk	Thu Apr  9 12:56:51 1992
***************
*** 107,117 ****
  .ft \\n(PF
  .ps \\n(PX
  .po
  .if \\n(Tc=2 \{\
  .	nr Pc \\n%
  .	nr Tc 3
  .	af PN i
- .	TC
  .\}
  ..
  .	\" DP Duplex -- versus Simplex printing
--- 107,117 ----
  .ft \\n(PF
  .ps \\n(PX
  .po
+ .if \\n(Tc=3 \c
  .if \\n(Tc=2 \{\
  .	nr Pc \\n%
  .	nr Tc 3
  .	af PN i
  .\}
  ..
  .	\" DP Duplex -- versus Simplex printing
***************
*** 307,315 ****
--- 307,318 ----
  .\"	EM
  .\" check for work at end of file
  .de EM
+ .br
  .if \\n(Tc \{\
  \c
  .nr Tc 2
+ .TC
+ .nr Tc 0
  .\}
  .\"tm EM called, Tc: \\n(Tc
  ..

Let me know if you have any problems with this.


System Architecture Research Centre, Computing Science Dept,
City University, Northampton Square, London  EC1V 0HB.
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Thanks to every one that responded to my original post!


Unfortunately <special-projects@andrew.cmu.edu> appears to be dead. 


I started with setting up a client-server on our unix machine. The unix server 
is necessary for the pc-client anyway.


I found that the documentation about guardian, snap and the messageservers is 
almost absent and probably out of date. By going through the code I found that 
some services have to be added to /etc/services. There is no default 
port-number choosen if they are absent. What was almost impossible to find 
were the services to list in guardian.svc. With all debugging flags on I 
noticed cuis requested the server MS.10.3.(not messageserver) , and YES!! it 
worked. 

(Messageserver itself is linked to fakeclient. I don't know what it does, but 
the name isn't promising, and why is a server linked to a client?)


So cuis is able to talk to the server MS.10.3 through guardian, but VUI dumps 
core and messagess never finishes initializing (or dumps core). 


a) Can someone please tell me what could be wrong

b) Does any one know if special-projects is still alive.


Many thanks in advance,


Harco de Hilster.


P.S. What is the difference between cuis and cuit. It seems that cuit uses tcp 
sockets and cuis udp sockets, but which one should I use and why the 
difference?.


A) script that starts guardian:

\typewriter{\smaller{/home7/harcoh/andrew_inst/etc/snap/guardian -u -v -l -r 
-n20,15 \\

 -D1 -D2 -D4 -D8 -D16 -D32 -D64 -D128 -D256 -D512 -D1024 -D2048 -D4096 \\

 -D8192 -D16384 \\

 -s/home7/bbsman/etc/guardian.svc  \\

 -p/home7/bbsman/etc/user.permits  \\

 -q/home7/bbsman/guardian.log

}}
B) guardian.svc

\smaller{MS.10.3 BOTH FALSE 5 
/home7/harcoh/andrew_inst/etc/snap/services/MS.10.3

BIOYA BOTH FALSE 5 /home7/harcoh/andrew_inst/etc/snap/services/bioya

PCSERVER BOTH FALSE 5 /home7/harcoh/andrew_inst/etc/snap/services/pcserver

}
C) user.permits

harcoh

bbsman


D) /etc/services

\typewriter{\smaller{snap.guardian            8000/udp        # AMS/SNAP exp. 
harcoh

snap.guardian01          8001/udp        # AMS/SNAP exp. harcoh

snap.guardian02          8002/udp        # AMS/SNAP exp. harcoh

snap.guardian03          8003/udp        # AMS/SNAP exp. harcoh

snap.guardiant           8004/tcp        # AMS/SNAP exp. harcoh

snap.guardiant.debug     8005/tcp        # AMS/SNAP exp. harcoh

snap.guardiant.stat      8006/udp        # AMS/SNAP exp. harcoh}}

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Hopefully someone has already figured this out...

We are starting to use Messages.  The problem is that we have large
volumes of Xmh
mail in various folders and now would like to migrate that info to
corresponding Messages
folders.  The only problem is that Messages uses a different naming format.

I believe messages creates mail file names based on the time the file
was read in.  Has anyone
ever created a conversion utility that would read the creation (or
whatever) date of a file and 
then change the file name to it's Messages equivalent file name?

-Kris Olander
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There's a tool floating around to do this.  AMS-format folders are something 
like the following, in a directory:

	a .MS_MsgDir file

	a bunch of files with names beginning with the '+' character

The names can be arbitrary other than the leading character.


The simplest way to create a folder from a directory (say, /blah) is like 
this:

	% mkdir ~/.MESSAGES/blah

	% touch ~/.MESSAGES/blah/.MS_MsgDir

	% cd /blah

	% foreach foo (*)

	? cp $foo ~/.MESSAGES/+$\{foo\}

	? end

	% cui

	CUI> reconstruct ~/.MESSAGES/blah

	CUI> rebuild


	CUI> quit

	%


Give it a shot.


		Craig


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Actually, Craig's solution can be simplified \italic{considerably}:


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.info-andrew: 9-Apr-92 Re: Mail 
conversion from Xm.. Craig_Everhart@transarc. (566+0)}


\quotation{The simplest way to create a folder from a directory (say, /blah) 
is like this:

}\quotation{	% mkdir ~/.MESSAGES/blah

}\quotation{	% touch ~/.MESSAGES/blah/.MS_MsgDir

}\quotation{	% cd /blah

}\quotation{	% foreach foo (*)

}\quotation{	? cp $foo ~/.MESSAGES/+$\{foo\}

}\quotation{	? end

}\quotation{	% cui

}\quotation{	CUI> reconstruct ~/.MESSAGES/blah

}\quotation{	CUI> rebuild

}
\quotation{	CUI> quit

}
That will work, but instead you can "simply" do this:


	% cui create blah ~/.MESSAGES\\; quit

	% cp Mail/blah/* ~/.MESSAGES/blah

	% cui reconstruct blah 1 \\; quit


Note that the files do NOT need to start with + -- the reconstruction will 
rename them to take care of that.  Also, using the "create" command not only 
saves a step at the beginning, it makes the "rebuild" step at the end 
unnecessary.  -- Nathaniel

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Bob,

My impression is that your Graphon problem has something to do with the
way that textview does its drawing.  Clearly it's not a font problem. 
Textview uses the transfer modes WHITE, BLACK, XOR, and COPY.  In
particular, using WHITE and BLACK seem risky when using a color model,
but xgraphic.c seems to handle both cases properly.  It looks to me as
if someone is not setting the transfer mode from graphic_BLACK to
graphic_COPY before doing a FillRect(), but I can't find the place. 
Also, I can't see why this wouldn't show up on a monochrome Sun
display...

You might want to try a test like "ez -fg navy -bg yellow", and see what
the lossage looks like there.  That could narrow it down a bit.  If you
do, would you please send me more snapshots?  I'm going to look at it
some more.  Thanks.

Bill
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I've been able to get basic Andrew printing to work with various public
domain printing software (groff, psroff), but I haven't been able to get
printing to work for postscript generating insets (i.e zip, raster, etc.).

Has anyone out there been able to get more than basic text printing to
work with something other than ditroff?

Right now I'm looking at a package called eroff (by Elan Computer Group Inc,
415-964-2200) which claims to support ditroff.  Does anyone have any
experiences, good or bad, with it?  Does it really support ditroff to
the extent that ATK printing demands, or does it just provide the half-way
support that groff and psroff seem to have?


Many thanks,

George

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>Is anyone aware of an effort to port ATK to SVR4/386 or something similar?
>Should the SCO port work as is?

Probably not.  For example:

1) SCO's pseudo-tty mechanism is probably different from SVR4's
   mechanism.

2) SCO uses COFF, so you'd need a COFF-based dynamic loader.

   SVR4 uses ELF, so you'd need an ELF-based dynamic loader.

   The good news is that SVR4 *already comes with such a loader*; it has
   the same "dlopen()" interface that SunOS 4.1[.x] has (actually, it's
   the other way around; AT&T devised the interface, SunOS 4.x supplied
   some of the underpinnings of the SVR4 implementation, and SunOS
   4.1[.x] also picked up the interface and put it atop its
   implementation).

   So if anybody out there is contemplating writing such a dynamic
   loader for ELF, they should STOP RIGHT NOW and just grab the SunOS
   4.1[.x] dynamic loading code for ATK - it uses the "dlopen()"
   interface.

   (At least half the reason I did the "dlopen()" interface was to make
   sure nobody decided to whip up their own code to read and relocate
   ELF images.)

The nice thing is that an SVR4/386 port of ATK would probably require
*only* new versions of those damn assembler-language stubs to be an
SVR4/<something else> port, and stubs already exist for 68K, SPARC,
MIPS, and some other architectures - they might only need some tweaking
for different assembler-language syntax and different ways of doing
SVR4-style position-independent code.  (And if ATK were put atop
something that didn't require those stubs, it'd be even better....)
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In message <wdsshgy0M2YtIuhF4U@thumper.bellcore.com>, Nathaniel
Borenstein <nsb@thumper.bellcore.com> states:

> > Could someone tell me where I can get the latest release of AMS
> > which contains support for MIME, if it's available? Thanks.
> 
> I believe this release is imminent, but not yet available.

	I've been lurking on this mailing list for a few weeks now.
I'm about to attempt to build the ATK for the Suns that comprise the
gl.pitt.edu domain.  However, doing so with the current version (as
distributed in contrib/ of X11R5) would be a waste of time if a new
version is indeed imminent.

	So... is there indeed a new release of the ATK due out soon?
If so, when?

	Thanks,

-J

-- 
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Hi George,

I did not follow the discussion on groff  and psroff so I do not know what 
George means by \italic{h}\italic{alf way support that groff and psroff seem 
to have.

}
We are using eroff since nearly 2 years to print "full" andrew documents. 

Eroff had some problems too. If I remember well the final filter to transfrom 
ditroff output into postscript did not recognize the embedded postscript of 
andrew rasters, etc. So as final filter we still use psdit (part of the sun 
transcript software). I reported this problem to elan but no answer. 


But as far as real ditroff processing is concerned eroff works. 

I include some lines from my preferences to for reference

\smaller{FormatCommand:/home/elan/usr/local/bin/eqn -Tpsc 
/tmp/%s.n|/home/elan/usr/local/bin/troff -meroff -Tpsc 
-F/usr/tran/sparc/lib/ditroff.font/Times  |

PrintCommand:psdit| lpr  -s

}
Oh yes there was also a problem with the font management so I decided to use 
the (ditroff) fonts from the Transcript package. 


If you have any questions



Manfred Kohl

Joint Research Centre of the EC

T.P. 361

I-21020 Ispra (VA)

Italy


m_kohl@jrc.it


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The Consortium is working hard to prepare a CD-ROM version of ATK and are 
about ready to cut a tape to send to the disc maker.  The disc itself will be 
ready sometime next month.


The CD-ROM will include all sources and complete object trees for the IBM 
RS/6000, HP 700 Snake, DEC PMAX, and Sun 4.  This release will include support 
for the MIME internet mail standard.


Once the tape has been cut, we will make the same release available for 
anonymous ftp from emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu as well as through the contrib 
directory on the X distribution.  I expect this to happen sometime THIS month.



No further general public release or patches of ATK sources is planned for at 
least a year.  Periodic updates will be available for members of the 
consortium.  (Hint: Join now; help ensure there will be further updates ;-)



Fred Hansen

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This list needs an FAQ posting...

`groff' works just fine for everything I've tried (I understand there's
a TOC problem, but there's also a work-around for it), including all the
embedded PostScript stuff.  I've been able to drop ditroff and psdit,
and just use groff.  Recommended.  Get the latest version of groff.

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Several messages have circulated regarding strange font behavior in the Andrew 
R5 \italic{messages} program.  Specifically, unpredictable font types are 
displayed when one customizes \italic{messages} font size or body type in the 
\italic{preferences} file.


For our Sparc2 systems, I believe the problem lies in the way that Andrew R5 
handles its fonts.alias file ($\{ANDREWDIR\}/X11fonts/fonts.alias).  Since 
incorporating support for ISO 8859 fonts, Andrew's fonts.alias file no longer 
maps alias names to its own fonts.dir file, but rather provides pointers to 
specific MIT X11 fonts, under the X11 search path.  All is fine when ISO 8859 
fonts are used, but when  non-ISO Andrew fonts are installed together with 
Andrew's "old-style" fonts.alias file, font selection can become confused. 
 Fonts listed in Andrew's "fonts.alias" file are  searched for within X11 
directories, resulting, of course, in a mismatch, causing a substitute font to 
replace the requested one.


To show an example of how font selection can fail, not only for 
\italic{messages} but for other ATK applications as well, consider the 
preferences option "ez.bodyfont: andytype14f".  The old (patch level 9) 
fonts.alias file maps "andytype14f" to "courier14f", which in turn specifies 
the Andrew font,  "cou14f.snf",  in Andrew's fonts.dir file.  Compare an ez 
session that has the preference, "ez.bodyfont: andytype14f", with one having 
the preference, "ez.bodyfont: courier14f", and you'll find that one displays 
an X11 font while the other displays the correct Andrew font. (This discussion 
assumes that the old Andrew fonts are installed in $\{ANDREWDIR\}/X11fonts).


I suppose one could overcome the font selection problem by adhering to the ISO 
8859 font scheme, but the ISO fonts are not nearly as nice as their Andrew 
counterparts.  ATK applications like \italic{ez} can still specify Andrew 
fonts directly by using the fonts.dir alias, but the \italic{messages} program 
can only specify font family and font size, making it impossilbe to locate an 
Andrew font such as "andytype14f".


Bob




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No further general public release or patches of ATK sources is planned for at 
least a year.  



}Looking forward to seeing the new CD-ROM  version!  Would be great if the 
 new version could include fixes, or README references to some of the known R5 
problems for which patches don't currently exist,  like:


-  Sun 4 Spell Checking:  When Andrew is compiled with optimization and 
without debugging, ATK applications crash when the "spell" menu option is 
selected


-  Preferences:  R5 changes to  overhead/util/lib/setprof.c and 
overhead/util/lib/profile.c cause new \italic{messages }options to be saved in 
"~/preferences", regardless of whether the user uses ~/preferences, 
~/.preferences, or ~/X11defaults as his personal preferences file


-  Fonts:  R5 is apparently not fully downward compatible for use with 
non-ISO80 Andrew fonts; menubar and pull-down menus are "blacked-out" on DEC 
3100, running PMAX_42 (possibly related to the xgraphic patches)


--Console:  console/stats code missing from sgi_4d  source tree; severe 
problems on DEC 3100 running PMAX _42 (can't redirect console messages to 
Andrew \italic{console} program, "Xws alignment" error messages saturate 
application buffer, crash system)


Many thanks to all for the help I received from others on some of these 
problems, 


Bob

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Bob_Dew@alw.nih.gov writes:
> --Console: [...] severe problems on DEC 3100 running PMAX _42 (can't
> redirect console messages to Andrew console program, "Xws alignment"
> error messages saturate application buffer, crash system)

Actually, the unaligned access problems are a result of a DEC X server
bug being tickled by one of the console fonts.  I believe it only
happens with the Xws server.

If you use 'uac' to turn off unaligned access messages for the X
server, you can actually run console without it crashing the machine. 

This problem has been reported to DEC, and acknowledged as a bug. I'm
currently waiting for a patch/notfication it's fixed in the next
release.

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Does anyone know how to re-direct /dev/console output to the Andrew 
\italic{console} program on a DECstation 3100 running ULTRIX 4.2?


As is, the Andrew\italic{ console} utility starts with the following error 
message:


\typewriter{console: Incomplete error monitoring (open '/dev/xcons' and 
'/dev/smscreen' failed)}


Apparently, \italic{console} needs to be run with uid root in order to collect 
/dev/console output--but that prevents one from monitoring AFS 
userid-associated things, like mail, tokens, quota, etc.


I found that one work-around is to change /usr/andrew/bin/runapp to run as 
setuid root.  That fixes\italic{ console}, but breaks \italic{tm}.


Does anyone have other suggestions?


Thanks,


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<bigger><bold>Andrew Toolkit <nl>
Frequently Asked Questions<nl>
Release 5.1</bold></bigger><nl>
<nl>
This file contains questions from everywhere and answers from many places.  Th=
e sections on General Information and Common Problems Building Andrew were com=
piled by Susan Straub (susan+@andrew.cmu.edu).  The section on User Questions =
has been extracted from a larger FAQ for CMU maintained by Andrew Plotkin (ap1=
i+@andrew.cmu.edu).  You can send suggestions and comments to these people or =
directly to the consortium's mailing list/bulletin board:  <nl>
<nl>
	info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu.<nl>
<nl>
Send bug reports to:<nl>
<nl>
	info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu<nl>
<nl>
For information about the consortium you can contact:<nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>Wilfred J. Hansen<nl>
Director, Andrew Toolkit Consortium<nl>
238 UCCB   4910 Forbes Ave.<nl>
Pittsburgh, PA 15213<nl>
wjh+@andrew.cmu.edu<nl>
412 268 6710</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
<nl>
<bold>General Information</bold><nl>
<nl>
<bold>G1.</bold>  What is Andrew?<nl>
<bold>G2.</bold>  <leftindent>How do I obtain the latest release?</leftindent>=
<nl>
<bold>G3.</bold>  <leftindent>Which platforms has Andrew been ported to?<=
/leftindent><nl>
<bold>G4.</bold>  <leftindent>What books have been written fo=
r Andrew and where can I obtain them?</leftindent><nl>
<bold>G5.</bold>  <leftindent>What is the Remote Andrew Demo Service?</leftind=
ent><nl>
<nl>
<bold>Common Problems/Questions Building Andrew</bold><nl>
<nl>
<bold>Q1. </bold> <leftindent>Why doesn't my macro expand in site.mcr?</leftin=
dent><nl>
<bold>Q2. </bold> <leftindent>How can I instruct "messages" to use /=
usr/spool/mail for mail drop?</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q3. </bold> <leftindent>Why do I get errors when building Ultrix 4.2 aga=
inst AFS 3.1 libraries?</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q4.</bold> <leftindent> Why does the distribution as made available on M=
IT's X.V11R5 tape install files as links instead of actual files? </leftindent=
><nl>
<bold>Q5.</bold>  <leftindent>Which configuration variables are used mos=
t often? </leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q6.</bold>  <leftindent>Do I need to have AFS to run the Andrew Message =
System (AMS)?</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q7. </bold> <leftindent>How can I get other useful software?</leftindent=
><nl>
<bold>Q8.</bold>  <leftindent>How can I use PostScript fonts other than =
those defined in /usr/andrew/X11fonts both in displayed and printed documents?=
 </leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q9.</bold>  <leftindent>How can I print Andrew documents?</leftindent><n=
l>
<bold>Q10.</bold>  <leftindent>Ezprint outputs rasters in PostScript.  Can =
I print those rasters?</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
<bold>User Questions</bold>  (Extracted from CMU FAQ)<nl>
<nl>
<bold>U0.</bold> <leftindent>Introduction</leftindent><nl>
<bold>U1. </bold><leftindent>Customizing your account</leftindent><nl>
<bold>U2.</bold> <leftindent>Playing with ATK things, including ez, typescript=
, console, and help</leftindent><nl>
<bold>U3.</bold> <leftindent>Mail and bboards, including messages</leftindent>=
<nl>
<bold>U4. </bold><leftindent>Strange file formats</leftindent><nl>
<bold>U5.</bold> <leftindent>Working with graphics and images</leftindent><nl>=

<bold>U6. </bold><leftindent>Fancy key bindings</leftindent><nl>
<bold>U7.</bold> <leftindent>Programming in Ness and C</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
___________________________________________________<nl>
<section>General Questions</section><nl>
<nl>
<bold>G1.  What is Andrew?</bold><nl>
<indent>The Andrew Toolkit (ATK) is a portable user-interface toolkit that run=
s under X11. It provides a dynamically-loadable object-oriented environment wh=
erein objects can be embedded in one-another. Thus, one could use our 'generic=
-object' editor (ez) to edit text that, in addition to containing multiple fon=
ts, contains embedded raster images, spreadsheets, drawing editors, equations,=
 simple animations, etc.. These embedded objects could themselves contain othe=
r objects, including text. With the toolkit, programmers can create new object=
s that can be embedded as easily as those that come with the system. Many obje=
cts, including those mentioned above, along with a help system, a system monit=
oring tool (console), an editor based shell interface (typescript), and suppor=
t for printing multi-media documents, are included in the release, making it u=
seful to programmers and non-programmers alike. <nl>
<nl>
The Andrew Message System(AMS) provides a multi-media interface to mail and bu=
lletin-boards.  AMS contains many advanced  features including authentication,=
 return receipts, automatic sorting of mail, vote collection and tabulation, e=
nclosures, audit trails of related messages, and subscription management. It a=
lso provides a variety of interfaces that support ttys and low-function person=
al computers in addition to the high-function workstations. <nl>
</indent><nl>
<bold>G2.  How do I obtain the latest release?</bold><nl>
<indent>This release, 5.1, can be obtained in several ways.  The entire X dist=
ribution is available via anonymous ftp from the Internet host export.lcs.mit.=
edu (Internet address:  18.30.0.238).  The sources of ATK and AMS are located =
in the contrib/andrew tree, one of the contributed toolkits.  Just the andrew =
tree from the X distribution, as well as the latest patches, is available via =
anonymous ftp from the Internet host, emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu (Internet: 128.2=
.30.62).   Due to its size, the compressed tar'd tree is split into 11 files, =
andrew.aa through andrew.ak (about 1MB each) in the split/ directory.    You s=
hould cat andrew.* together into andrew.tar.Z, uncompress the tree then tar -x=
vpf.  <nl>
<nl>
</indent><bold>G3.  Which platforms has Andrew been ported to?</bold><nl>
<nl>
The (intended) available machine types are:<nl>
<nl>
<formatnote><leftindent>Machine Type		Operating System		<lt>machine><nl>
<nl>
IBM RT			AOS December 1988		rt_aos4<nl>
IBM RT			AIX 2.2.1			rt_aix221<nl>
IBM RS/6000			AIX 3.1			rs_aix31<nl>
IBM PS/2 M70/80		AIX 1.2			ps_aix12 <nl>
Sun 3				SunOS 3.5			sun3_35<nl>
Sun 3				SunOS 4.0			sun3_4<nl>
Sun 3				SunOS 4.1			sun3_41<nl>
Sun 4				SunOS 4.0			sun4_40<nl>
Sun 4				SunOS 4.1			sun4_41<nl>
DEC Vax			Ultrix 3.0			vax_3<nl>
DEC Vax			BSD (4.3)			vax_43<nl>
HP 300			HP UX				hp300<nl>
HP 900			HP UX				hp800<nl>
Macintosh II			MacMach			mac2_51<nl>
Apollo				DomainOS			apollo68k<nl>
DEC MIPS			Ultrix 3.0			pmax_3<nl>
DEC MIPS			Ultrix 4.1			pmax_41<nl>
DEC MIPS			Ultrix 4.2			pmax_42<nl>
SGI				IRIX 4.0			sgi_4d<nl>
SCO				SCO				sco_i386<nl>
</leftindent></formatnote><nl>
<bold>G4.  What books have been written for Andrew and where can I obtain them=
?</bold><nl>
<indent><nl>
Nathaniel S. Borenstein's book: <italic>Multimedia Applications Development wi=
th the Andrew Toolkit </italic>(Prentice-Hall).<nl>
<nl>
ODA Project Book: <italic>Multi-media Document Interchange: ODA and the EXPRES=
 Project </italic>(Springer Verlag).</indent><nl>
<nl>
<nl>
____________________________<nl>
<section>Common Problems/Questions Building Andrew<nl>
</section><nl>
<nl>
<bold>Q1.  Why doesn't my macro expand in site.mcr?</bold><nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>Tabs are not allowed before macro declarations in the site.mcr.  A=
lthough the error is not reported as such, the macro is not expanded properly =
and thus not noticed by imake.  Use spaces.  </leftindent><nl>
<nl>
<bold>Q2.  How can I instruct "messages" to use /usr/spool/mail for mail drop?=
</bold><nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>Although the following lines are in /usr/andrew/etc/AndrewSetup:<n=
l>
<nl>
<leftindent>AMS_NonAMSDelivery: yes<nl>
AMS_MailBoxPrefix: /usr/spool/mail<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
Messages says, "/usr/user/Mailbox" could not be properly read and delivered (0=
 success, 0 failure)". <excerpt><nl>
</excerpt><nl>
You should create a file $HOME/.mailrc and put in this line:<nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>unset hold</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
WARNING:  Once you start reading mail with <italic>messages</italic>, you inco=
ming mail will be stored within directories maintained by <italic>messages</it=
alic>.  It is possible to return to other mail handling systems, but it may no=
t be easy.<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q3.  Why do I get errors when building Ultrix 4.2 against AFS 3.1 librar=
ies? </bold><nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>You need to define AFS_ULTRIX in your site.h file.  <nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q4. Why does the distribution as made available on MIT's X.V11R5 tape in=
stall files as links instead of actual files?  This fails in two directories: =
 overhead/class/lib and xmkfontd.  </bold><nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>The distribution defaults to install links instead of files.  To c=
hange this, #undef LINKINSTALL_ENV in your site.h file.   If you want to build=
 using LINKINSTALL_ENV, you will have to change the following two files: <nl>
<nl>
overhead/class/lib/Imakefile:<indent><nl>
<nl>
29,32d28<nl>
<lt> #ifdef LIBDL_ENV<nl>
<lt> install.time:: libclass.a<nl>
<lt> 	$(INSTALL) $(INSTLIBFLAGS) libclass.a $(DESTDIR)/lib<nl>
<lt> #else /* LIBDL_ENV */<nl>
34d29<nl>
<lt> #endif /* LIBDL_ENV */<nl>
<nl>
</indent>xmkfontd/Imakefile:<nl>
<indent><nl>
18c18<nl>
<lt> 	$(INSTALL)  ${INSTLIBFLAGS} non-andrew.fonts.alias  ${DESTDIR}/X11fonts/=
fonts.alias	<nl>
---<nl>
> InstallFileToFile(non-andrew.fonts.alias, ${INSTLIBFLAGS}, ${DESTDIR}/X11fon=
ts/fonts.alias)<nl>
</indent></leftindent><indent><nl>
</indent><nl>
<bold>Q5.  Which configuration variables are used most often? </bold><nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>AFS30_ENV<nl>
AFS31_ENV <nl>
AMS_DELIVERY_ENV <nl>
WHITEPAGES_ENV <nl>
SNAP_ENV <nl>
ANDREW_MALLOC_ENV<nl>
DEBUG_MALLOC_ENV<nl>
MK_BASIC_UTILS<nl>
MK_AUTHORING <nl>
MK_AUX_UTILS <nl>
MK_AUX_INSETS<nl>
MK_EXAMPLES <nl>
RUN_AMDS_ENV<nl>
ANDREW_PRINTING_ENV<nl>
LINKINSTALL_ENV<nl>
CONTRIB_ENV <nl>
PRE_X11R4_ENV <nl>
DPS_ENV <nl>
DEFAULT_ANDREWDIR_ENV <nl>
BUILDANDREWINSTALL_ENV <nl>
ISO80_FONTS_ENV	<nl>
FONTS_TO_PCF_ENV<nl>
<nl>
CDEBUGFLAGS =3D -g<nl>
MAKEDODEBUG =3D -g<nl>
AFSBASEDIR =3D /usr/local<nl>
XMKFONTDIR =3D /usr/local/bin/mkfontdir<nl>
XFC =3D /usr/local/bin/bdftosnf<nl>
XLIBDIR =3D /usr/local/lib<nl>
XINCDIR =3D /usr/local/include<nl>
RESOLVLIB =3D ${AFSBASEDIR}/lib/res/libresolv.a<nl>
RESINC =3D -I$(AFSBASEDIR)/include/res<nl>
INCLUDES =3D  -I${BASEDIR}/include -I$(BASEDIR)/include/atk $(RESINC) -I$(AFSB=
ASEDIR)/include -I${XINCDIR}<nl>
<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q6.  Do I need to have AFS to run the Andrew Message System (AMS)?</bold=
><nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>No, but having AFS gives you better functionality. <nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q7.  How can I get other useful software?</bold><nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>Enormous quantities of software are available for free from the in=
ternet.  Many of the pieces are also available via electronic mail.  Subsequen=
t paragraphs list some software that may be of value as an adjunct to ATK/AMS.=
<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>archie - archive locator</bold><nl>
<leftindent>A major source of information about the location of software on th=
e network is 'archie'.  Send mail to <nl>
	archie@archie.rutgers.edu<nl>
In the body of the message include line(s) of the form<nl>
	prog   name<nl>
where name is the name of the software you would like to find out about.  For =
more information, the body can contain the line<nl>
	help<nl>
The listing returned from a 'prog' request will list ftp sites containing info=
rmation with the name you gave.  A site with a name ending in .com, .edu, or .=
gov will be in the United States and will be the best place to try.<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>ftp - file transfer package</bold><nl>
<leftindent>To retrieve information via ftp over the internet:  Give the comma=
nd <nl>
	ftp <lt>site name><nl>
The response will ask for your login;  reply<nl>
	anonymous<nl>
the response will ask for your email address;  type it in.  Now you can give t=
he help command to see the commands.  I generally use ls, dir, cd, lcd, pwd, a=
nd get.<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>on the ATK cd-rom</bold><nl>
<leftindent>Some useful non-ATK software is included in the ATK cd-rom.  For d=
etails see subsequent paragraphs.<nl>
	binaries only:  X11 for RS6000, Sun 4, Dec Pmax, and HP700<nl>
	binaries and source:  metamail imake makedepend patch<nl>
	source only: ispell, psroff, pbmplus<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>X Windows System:  X11, imake, makedepend, patch</bold><nl>
<leftindent>Screen management and graphics software<nl>
Binaries on cdrom in <lt>system>/X11/...<nl>
Bdf fonts  on cdrom in  src/util/bdffonts<nl>
imake, makedepend, and patch<nl>
	source on cdrom in src/util/...<nl>
	objects on cdrom in <lt>system>/util/...<nl>
ftp: export.mit.edu and numerous other sites (see archie)<nl>
newsgroup: comp.windows.x <nl>
mail address:<nl>
	MIT Software Distribution Center<nl>
	Technology Licensing Office<nl>
	room E32-300<nl>
	77 Massachusetts Avenue<nl>
	Cambridge, MA  02139<nl>
phone: (617) 258-8330<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>metamail</bold><nl>
	Converter for implementing MIME multi-media internet standard.<nl>
	newer version due early April, 1992<nl>
	contact:  Nathaniel Borenstein<nl>
		Bellcore Room 2A-274<nl>
		Morristown, NJ 07962-1910<nl>
	phone: (201) 829-4270<nl>
	email: nsb@thumper.bellcore.com<nl>
	ftp:  thumper.bellcore.com,  see  pub/nsb/README<nl>
	source: $ATKSRC/overhead/mail/metamail<nl>
<nl>
<bold>pbmplus</bold><nl>
	Portable bit map conversion and transformation software<nl>
	version in cdrom:/src/util/pbmplus is from   10 December 1991<nl>
	contact: Jef Poskanzer<nl>
	email: jef@well.sf.ca.us<nl>
<nl>
<bold>psroff</bold><nl>
	Software augmenting troff and providing printer drivers.<nl>
	on cdrom: src/util/psroff  is version 3.0 patch level 07<nl>
	contact:  Chris Lewis<nl>
	psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca<nl>
<nl>
<bold>ispell</bold>  <nl>
	version ion cdrom in src/util/ispell is 2.0.02<nl>
		updated with a bigger dictionary<nl>
	new version 3.0 is coming soon<nl>
	contact: Geoff Kuenning<nl>
	email:  geoff@ITcorp.com<nl>
<nl>
<bold>GNU software: groff, g++, gcc, gdb, gnuemacs, ... </bold><leftindent><nl=
>
Free software, eventually replacing Un*x<nl>
ftp: prep.ai.mit.edu<nl>
	see pub/gnu/GNUinfo/FTP<nl>
	and pub/gnu/etc/DISTRIB<nl>
email: gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu<nl>
mailing address:<nl>
	Free Software Foundation, Inc.<nl>
	675 Massachusetts Avenue<nl>
	Cambridge, MA  02139<nl>
	USA<nl>
phone:  +1 617-876-3296<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>transcript (psdit)</bold><nl>
	Contact: <nl>
		Adobe<nl>
		1585 Charleston Road<nl>
		P.O. Box 7900<nl>
		Mountain View, CA 94039-7900<nl>
	phone: 1-800-833-6687<nl>
<nl>
<bold>Documenter's WorkBench</bold><nl>
	AT&T / NCR Computer Division<nl>
		800 225 5627<nl>
	Gary Wagner  513 445 1475<nl>
<nl>
<nl>
<bold>Q8.  How can I use PostScript fonts other than those defined in /usr/and=
rew/X11fonts both in displayed and printed documents?<nl>
There are two aspects of this problem: screen display and print display.<nl>
Screen Display</bold><nl>
<leftindent>To have your own fonts used by ATK applications for displaying tex=
t you must first create those fonts and place them in a directory, possibly se=
t up a fonts.alias file, run mkfontdir to get a fonts.dir file, and finally ad=
d that directory to your X fontpath.  Also, you'll have to specify in your pre=
ferences file the fontname:<nl>
<nl>
ez.bodyfont: myfont12<nl>
<nl>
</leftindent><bold>Print Display</bold><nl>
<leftindent>To get these fonts to print you have to create the appropriate tro=
ff device-specific font description files (see /usr/lib/font/devpsc for the Po=
stscript fonts).  Question: Are there tools around that let you create a troff=
 font? Furthermore, you'd have to alter the ATK-to-troff text translator (../a=
ndrew/atk/text/txtroff.c) to recognize your new font family and to make the ap=
propriate mapping from your fontname to the troff fontname.  Currently, the on=
ly fonts used for printing are Times, Helvetica, and Courier.</leftindent><nl>=

<nl>
<nl>
<bold>Q9. How can I print Andrew documents?</bold><nl>
<leftindent><nl>
Printing requires two steps, text formatting and then driving the printer.  AT=
K utilizes troff for text formatting.  That is adequate for printing documents=
 with styled texts, but some insets such as rasters and zip require that the p=
rinter be driven with PostScript.<nl>
<nl>
Print processing is controlled via the FormatCommand and PrintCommand options,=
 which can be specified in site.h during system build, the global preferences =
in $ANDREWDIR/lib/global.prf, or the user's ~/preferences file.  The most gene=
ral defaults are:<nl>
<leftindent>*.FormatCommand: eqn -Tpsc /tmp/%s.n  | troff -Tpsc - |<nl>
*.PrintCommand: lpr -n<nl>
</leftindent>The -Tpsc flags specify that the troff output is ultimately inten=
ded for a PostScript printer.  If you do not have one, this value must be set =
to whatever is appropriate for your printer.  ATK documents containing only st=
yled text can be printed via most versions of troff and most print drivers.<nl=
>
<nl>
To print ATK documents via PostScript printers, you have three options:<nl>
	troff - psroff<nl>
	ditroff - psdit<nl>
	groff<nl>
These differ in cost and the difficulty of installation.  See Q8 for hints on =
acquiring these packages.<nl>
<nl>
<italic>troff - psroff</italic><nl>
Standard Unix systems are often delivered with an old troff which generates ou=
tput for the "CAT" typesetter.  This troff can be used to print ATK documents =
by sending the output through the psroff processor, available freely on the in=
ternet.  See the psroff documentation.<nl>
<nl>
<italic>ditroff - psdit</italic><nl>
This is the route we use at CMU.  <italic>ditroff</italic> is the device indep=
endent troff which comes with the Documenters Work Bench portion of Unix Syste=
m V.  <italic>psdit</italic> is part of the "Transcript" package available fro=
m Adobe software.  Both ditroff and Transcript cost money.  Adjust the FormatC=
ommand to utilize the ditroff version of troff (it is usually called <italic>t=
roff</italic>).  The PrintCommand should usually use the -n switch and the lpr=
 daemon will run psdit.<nl>
</leftindent><italic><nl>
</italic><leftindent><italic>groff </italic><nl>
This package is free from the Free Software Foundation, the gnu people.  The o=
nly hitch is that to build <italic>groff</italic> you must first build <italic>g++</italic> and to build <italic>g++</italic> you must first build <italic>gcc</italic>.  We have compiled groff without any problems with g++-1.=
39.1. g++ also compiled gpic, geqn, gtbl.   <nl>
<nl>
Groff includes gtroff to do text formatting and grops to generate PostScript. =
 To To use both, have this specification:<nl>
	*.formatcommand:      groff -pte -E /tmp/%s.n |<nl>
	*.PrintCommand: lpr -v<nl>
Note:  The -pte switches tell it to run gpic, gtbl, and geqn before running gt=
roff.  The output of gtroff is automatically piped into grops, which generates=
 the PostScript.  (This assumes that /usr/gnu/bin (or wherever groff is instal=
led) is on one's path.)<nl>
<nl>
The drawback of this simple approach is that the ATK preview option will no lo=
nger work.  To retain the preview command, I believe, one can use specificatio=
ns something like this:<nl>
	*.FormatCommand: cat /tmp/%s.n | gpic|gtbl|geqn|gtroff -Tpsc |<nl>
	*.PrintCommand: grops | lpr -v<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Q10.  Ezprint outputs rasters in PostScript.  Can I print those rasters?=
</bold><nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>If you just want to print one raster from an Andrew document, you =
can extract the raster from the troff output with a raw text editor and print =
it directly.  You may have to add the line<nl>
	20 20 translate<nl>
to get it out of the bottom corner.  You may also have to add an initial line =
containing only <nl>
	%!<nl>
<nl>
If you haven't got a postscript printer, the raster image can still be massage=
d with the pbm package.  pbm understands the Andrew format or you can use the =
output of <nl>
	ezprint -t <lt>file><nl>
which will include the raster encoded in PostScript / hex form.<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
___________________________________________________<nl>
<section>User Questions</section><nl>
<nl>
<section>U0. Introduction</section><nl>
<nl>
This section has been extracted from a larger FAQ file maintained at CMU by An=
drew Plotkin  (ap1i+@andrew.cmu.edu).  Its permission information reads:<nl>
<nl>
<indent>Everything in this file is public domain. You can copy it, mail it to =
people, put bits of it in other files, print it out in 500-point type and stap=
le it to the walls, whatever you want -- I'm happy to give you the opportunity=
, and I couldn't do a thing about it if I wanted to.<nl>
<nl>
Thanks to the multiple people who provided me with questions and answers.</ind=
ent><nl>
<smaller><nl>
</smaller><nl>
<section>U1. Customizing your account<nl>
</section><nl>
<bold>How can I customize my Andrew account?</bold><nl>
<leftindent>For info on your preferences file:<nl>
<fixed>	help preferences</fixed>   (or <fixed>help prefs</fixed>)<fixed><nl>
</fixed></leftindent><nl>
<bold>I edited my .cshrc, but now I get strange errors when I start <italic>ty=
pescript</italic></bold>, or<bold><nl>
I edited my .login, but now I get strange errors when I log in</bold>, or<bold><nl>
I edited my .plan, but now I get strange symbols when I <italic>finger</italic=
> myself</bold>, or<bold><nl>
I edited my .Xresources, but now I get strange errors when I start X</bold>, o=
r<bold><nl>
I edited this file, but now I get strange errors....</bold><nl>
<leftindent>If you use <italic>ez</italic> to edit your .plan, .login, .logout=
, preferences, .cshrc, .Xresources, .Xclients, .Xmodmap, .signature, or any fi=
le like that: you <italic>must</italic> get rid of any styles you put in. You =
can't have sections of bold, or typewriter, or italics, or different text size=
s, or indentation. (Not even in your .plan file or .signature, although that w=
ould be nice.) Use "Plainest" on the whole file if you have to.<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
<section>U2. Playing with ATK things<nl>
</section><nl>
<bold>How do I customize an ATK program?<nl>
</bold><leftindent>See the help file on it. The ATK help files are more friend=
ly than average; lots of examples, no words over two syllables, etc.<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>How do I change the behavior, fonts, and so on in ATK windows and menus?=
<nl>
</bold><leftindent>Most of these are controlled by preferences:<nl>
<fixed>	help preferences<nl>
	help menubar<nl>
</fixed>The lines described in these help files go in your <italic>preferences=
</italic> file. For example, <nl>
<fixed>	*.Thumbscroll: yes<nl>
</fixed>will cause the text in any ATK window to swoop up and down when you wi=
ggle the scroll bar.<nl>
<fixed>	typescript.Thumbscroll: yes<nl>
</fixed>will cause that to happen only in <italic>typescript</italic> windows.=
<nl>
<nl>
A major exception is the appearance of the pop-up menus you get when you press=
 and hold the middle button. These are controlled by X resources (when you are=
 running X.)<nl>
<fixed>	help cmenu<nl>
</fixed>The resources described in this help file go in your <italic>.Xresourc=
es</italic> file. <nl>
<fixed>	*TitleFont: andysans22b<nl>
</fixed>will cause your menu card titles to be printed in a 22-point bold sans=
-serif font. <nl>
<fixed>	help*TitleFont: andysans22b<nl>
</fixed>will cause that to happen only in <italic>help</italic> windows.<nl>
(Notice the format of an <italic>.Xresources</italic> entry is different from =
a <italic>preferences</italic> entry.)<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>I have a color display.  Can I get windows in colors other than black an=
d white?</bold><nl>
<leftindent>Yes, set the colors in your preference file with lines like this:<=
nl>
<nl>
<leftindent># darker blue on lighter tan.  tan good.  (blue not really dark en=
ough)<nl>
ez.foregroundcolor: #003ea2<nl>
ez.backgroundcolor: wheat<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
For colors you can run <italic>xcolorpick</italic> or edit the file /usr/lib/X=
11/rgb.txt.   Color names are recognized by X only if they are in rgb.txt.<nl>=

If you want colors just for one execution of a program, you can set them on t=
he command line:<nl>
	typescript -fg black -bg burlywood<nl>
<nl>
Here's a technique for setting color preferences based on the value of the env=
ironment variable ISCOLOR, which you can set in your .login file as follows:  =
<nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>set TTY =3D `tty`<nl>
if ($TTY =3D=3D /dev/console || \<nl>
	$TTY =3D=3D /dev/hft/0 || \<nl>
	$TTY =3D=3D /dev/ttyaed || \<nl>
	$TTY =3D=3D /dev/ttyapa16 || \<nl>
	$TTY =3D=3D /dev/ttyap16 || \<nl>
	$TTY =3D=3D /dev/tty8514 || \<nl>
	$TTY =3D=3D /dev/pty/ttyse || \<nl>
	$TTY =3D=3D /dev/ttymono) then<nl>
	set consolelogin =3D 1<nl>
	echo -n "Color display? [y/n]: "<nl>
	set answer =3D $<lt><nl>
	if ($answer" =3D~ [Yy]*) then<nl>
		setenv ISCOLOR 1<nl>
		echo "color console login"<nl>
	else<nl>
		echo "console login"<nl>
	endif<nl>
	unset answer<nl>
endif</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
You can then reference this variable in your preferences file: <nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>?E=3DISCOLOR=3D1:ez.backgroundcolor: antiquewhite1<nl>
?E=3DISCOLOR=3D1:console.backgroundcolor: cornsilk<nl>
?E=3DISCOLOR=3D1:typescript.backgroundcolor: cornsilk3<nl>
?E=3DISCOLOR=3D1:help.backgroundcolor: cornsilk3<nl>
?E=3DISCOLOR=3D1:messages.backgroundcolor: cornsilk2<nl>
?E=3DISCOLOR=3D1:bush.backgroundcolor: #e5d7c6<nl>
</leftindent></leftindent><nl>
<bold>How do I add styles to ATK documents?<nl>
</bold><fixed><leftindent>	help ez-styles<nl>
</leftindent></fixed><nl>
<bold>How do I add tables of contents and footnotes to ATK documents?<nl>
</bold><fixed><leftindent>	help ez-contents<nl>
	help ez-footnotes<nl>
</leftindent></fixed><nl>
<bold>How do I adjust line spacing and margins in ATK documents?<nl>
</bold><leftindent><fixed>	help ez<nl>
</fixed>and scroll down to "Formatting text: line spacing and margins".<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>What keystroke commands work in ATK programs?<nl>
</bold><leftindent><fixed>	help ez-keys<nl>
</fixed>Notice that most gnu-emacs keys work in ATK programs. <nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>How do I work with multiple ez windows or multiple buffers?<nl>
</bold><fixed><leftindent>	help ez-buffers<nl>
</leftindent></fixed><nl>
<bold>How do I remove ATK formatting from an ATK document, to turn it into pla=
in text?<nl>
</bold><leftindent>The easy way is to edit it with <italic>ez</italic>, select=
 (highlight) the entire document, and select "Plainest". <nl>
This will not work if the document has pagebreaks, footnotes, or insets (such =
as embedded rasters.)<nl>
If you don't want to start up <italic>ez</italic>, you can use <italic>ez2asci=
i</italic>:<nl>
<fixed>	ez2ascii filename<nl>
</fixed><nl>
Another alternative is to type<nl>
<fixed>	rtfm -f filename<nl>
</fixed>This produces output with terminal formatting. It will look ok in an x=
term, and underlining and boldface will show up correctly. However, it will fa=
il nastily in a typescript, or if you put the output in a file and edit it. <n=
l>
<nl>
For more info, see<nl>
<fixed>	help ez2ascii<nl>
	help rtfm<nl>
</fixed></leftindent><nl>
<bold>How can I write my own <italic>console</italic> layout?<nl>
</bold><leftindent><fixed>	help lacc<nl>
</fixed>The publically-available console layouts are in /usr/local/lib/console=
s. If you want to write your own, it's best to start with one of these and mod=
ify it.<nl>
<nl>
Once you've written your console layout file, add this line to your preference=
s:<nl>
<fixed>	console.default: consolefilename<nl>
</fixed>where consolefile is a full pathname (no ~'s), for example<nl>
/afs/andrew/usr99/userid/layoutfile<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>What is a help search path?<nl>
</bold><leftindent>Look at<nl>
<fixed>	help preferences<nl>
</fixed>and scroll down to "Help preferences." (Redundant, aren't I? And repet=
itive.)<nl>
The default help search path includes the help directories for all the standar=
d Andrew programs, and everything in /usr/contributed. To add, for example, th=
e help directory for the Computer Club's programs, you would add this line to =
your preferences:<nl>
<fixed>	help.searchpath: /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/cl0x/man<nl>
</fixed>If you have more than one directory in this line, they should be separ=
ated by colons, not spaces.<nl>
<nl>
The search path is read in when you start <italic>help</italic>. If help is al=
ready running, you can add a directory to the search path by choosing "Add Sea=
rch Directory" from the menu. This change is only temporary and will go away w=
hen you quit help. To permanently add a directory, you have to put it in your =
preferences.<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
<section>U3.  Mail and bboards<nl>
</section><bold><nl>
How do I set options for <italic>messages</italic>?<nl>
</bold><leftindent>Select "Set Options" on the "Other" menu card. This will br=
ing up a long list of options where the message titles usually are, and explan=
ations and switches where the message bodies usually are. You can scroll throu=
gh either list, and click on the switches to change things. (Some of these cha=
nges take effect immediately; for others, you have to quit and restart <italic>messages</italic>.) <nl>
There are a few, more obscure, options that you can set in your preferences fi=
le. Type<nl>
<fixed>	help preferences<nl>
</fixed>and scroll down to "Andrew Messages System preferences". <nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<nl>
<section>U4. Strange file formats<nl>
</section><nl>
<bold>How do I convert rasters, bitmaps, or images from one type to another?<n=
l>
</bold><leftindent>To convert old-style ATK rasters (.ras) to new-style ATK=
 rasters (.raster) or vice-versa,<nl>
<fixed>	help convertraster<nl>
</fixed><italic>convertraster</italic> claims to be able to convert MacPaint f=
iles that you have ftp'd to Andrew. This may not be reliable.<nl>
To convert other image types, including X bitmaps, MacPaint files, and GIFs, <=
nl>
<fixed>	help pbm<nl>
	help pnm</fixed><nl>
and also see the help files on all the little programs they mention.<nl>
<nl>
Some notes:<nl>
	PBM, PPM, and PGM are special image file formats which are designed to be "in=
termediate" conversion formats. That is, you can convert anything to these for=
mats, and then convert it to anything else. (The RLE format is another "interm=
ediate" format available on Andrew. For information on it, see the help file o=
n URT.)<nl>
	PBM ("portable bitmap") is for simple black-and-white images like those produ=
ced by MacPaint or <italic>bitmap</italic>. PGM ("portable greymap") is for im=
ages with shades of grey, and PPM ("portable pixmap") is for full-color images=
. PNM ("portable any-map") is not a file format; a program called "pnm-somethi=
ng" can handle PBM, PPM, or PGM files.<nl>
	PBM, PGM, and PPM can be interconverted with the appropriate programs (<italic>ppmtopgm, pgmtopbm</italic>.) Both of these lose information, of cours=
e: ppmtopgm reduces the color image to shades of grey, and pgmtopbm changes sh=
ades to grey to black-and-white (although it will simulate grey by mixing blac=
k and white dots.)<nl>
	Also, a PGM file can be used whenever a PPM file is expected (ie, as input to=
 <italic>ppm-something</italic>), and a PBM file can be used whenever either o=
f the other two formats is expected. This is reasonable, since a bitmap is jus=
t a greyscale image with only two shades of grey, and a greyscale image is jus=
t a color image with only grey colors.<nl>
	The PBM, PNM, PPM, and PGM programs (<italic>xbmtopbm</italic>, <italic>pbmto=
rast</italic>, <italic>pnmrotate</italic>, etc.) are not invoked directly; ins=
tead, you run <italic>pbm</italic> with the actual program name as the first a=
rgument. (Umm, that's still confusing. See the examples below.) <nl>
	All the conversion programs (except convertraster) work as filters. See the e=
xamples below.<nl>
	There are two programs, <italic>atobm</italic> and <italic>bmtoa</italic>, wh=
ich convert X bitmaps to and from ASCII files. There are no help files on them=
.<nl>
	The MacPaint to RLE program, <italic>painttorle</italic>, is not reliable for=
 large (full-screen) MacPaint files.<nl>
	PostScript files are designed only to be printed, so they're hard to convert =
to any other format. If you want to do that, you should view the file with <italic>dxpsview</italic> and then take a window dump of the <italic>dxpsview<=
/italic> window (which produces an XWD file), and then convert that.<nl>
<nl>
To convert an X bitmap to a PBM file, use<nl>
<fixed>	cat file.bm | pbm xbmtopbm > file.pbm<nl>
<nl>
</fixed>To convert a PBM file to an X bitmap file, use<nl>
<fixed>	cat file.pbm | pbm pbmtoxbm > file.bm<nl>
</fixed><nl>
To convert a GIF to PostScript, use<nl>
<fixed>	cat file.gif | pbm giftoppm | pbm ppmtops > file.ps</fixed><nl>
<nl>
To convert a MacPaint file that you've ftp'd to Andrew to PBM, use<nl>
<fixed>	cat file.paint | painttorle | rletoppm | pbm ppmtopgm | pbm pgmtopbm >=
 file.pbm<nl>
</fixed></leftindent><nl>
<section><nl>
U5.  Working with graphics and images<nl>
</section><nl>
<bold>What drawing and painting programs are available on Andrew?<nl>
</bold><leftindent>(Drawing programs are the ones like MacDraw, that let you p=
ut down geometric objects and then move them around, change their sizes, and s=
o on. Painting programs, like MacPaint, let you splot paint down on a raster, =
possibly in geometric shapes, and edit it pixel by pixel.)<nl>
There are the ATK versions, <italic>zip</italic> (drawing) and <italic>raster<=
/italic> (painting). <italic>zip</italic> is slow and somewhat buggy, and nobo=
dy uses it. <italic>raster</italic> is very primitive, and nobody uses it. How=
ever, they have the advantage of letting you put zip-drawings or rasters into =
ATK documents along with text.<nl>
<fixed>	help zip<nl>
	help raster<nl>
</fixed></leftindent><section><nl>
U6. Fancy key bindings</section><nl>
<nl>
Some packages commonly used by developers are not normally bound to keys in or=
der to simplify the user interface.  If you want to bind them, add the given l=
ine to your ~/.atkinit file or to apply the binding just to application <italic>xxx</italic>, add the line to ~/.<italic>xxx</italic>init.<nl>
	<fixed>help initfiles</fixed><nl>
<nl>
<bold>How can I execute an arbitrary expression?</bold><nl>
	<fixed>help ness</fixed><nl>
and read<nl>
	<fixed>$ANDREWDIR/doc/atk/ness/nesshack.doc</fixed><nl>
The normal binding of this function is ESC-ESC, though some people find this t=
oo easy to type by mistake (and Ness does take a couple of seconds to load the=
 first time it is called).  To get the ESC-ESC binding add to your .atkinit th=
e line:<nl>
	<fixed>addkey ness-dostmt  \e\e  view  </fixed><nl>
<nl>
<bold>What is the "proctable"?</bold><nl>
<fixed>	help procs</fixed><nl>
Menu entries and key sequences are not bound directly to functions in C code. =
 Instead they are bound to routines made available by the C code for the vario=
us insets.  For instance, the operation on text usually bound to ESC-b, which =
moves the cursor backward by one word, is the proctable function <italic>textv=
iew-backward-word</italic>.  When such a function is called from Ness, however=
, the dashes are written as underscores: <italic>textview_backward_word</itali=
c>.  <nl>
<nl>
How can I find out what is in the proctable?<nl>
	<fixed>help deskey</fixed><nl>
The deskey package offers several proctable functions which can be bound to ke=
ys or menu entries.  My own usage is given by these lines in my ~/.atkinit:<nl=
>
	<fixed>addkey deskey-describe-bound-keys ^XK im<nl>
	addkey deskey-describe-proctable ^XP im</fixed><nl>
Then control-X-shift-K opens another window showing all the current key bindin=
gs and control-X-shift-P opens a window showing all functions currently in the=
 proctable.  More functions are added as insets with new user interfaces are a=
dded.<nl>
<nl>
<bold>How can I execute an arbitrary proctable function?</bold><nl>
	<fixed>help metax</fixed><nl>
The metax package offers two operations to bind to keys.  They prompt for a fu=
nction to execute and provide name completion by examining the proctable for f=
unction names.  To bind ESC-x the operation that calls a function without pass=
ing an argument add to .atkinit the line:<nl>
	<fixed>addkey metax "\ex" view metax</fixed><nl>
<nl>
<bold>How can I get file name completion in typescript?</bold><nl>
If you are typing a file name to ez, you can get file name completion with spa=
ce and question mark.  The same functionality is available in the typescript w=
indow, but it is better to bind it to other keys.  The following in you .atkin=
it:<nl>
	addkey fcomp-complete-filename "\t" typescript<nl>
	addkey fcomp-possible-completions "\e\t" typescript<nl>
will bind TAB so it completes the currently entered file name as far as it can=
 and will bind ESC-TAB so it offers a list of all possible completions (as a l=
ist in the typescript).<nl>
<nl>
<bold>Can I perform incremental search as in gnuemacs?<nl>
	</bold><fixed>help search</fixed><bold><nl>
</bold><fixed>	help gsearch<nl>
</fixed>Yes, three different alternative search packages are available.  Dynam=
ic search is described in the help file for search and a gnuemacs clone is des=
cribed in the gsearch helpfile.  (Unfortunately, when you ask for help on 'sea=
rch', you get the gsearch helpfile;  you have to select <italic>twice</italic>=
 the menu option Show More Documentation.)  <nl>
<nl>
A simplified incremental search package with no documentation can be bound wit=
h<nl>
	addkey incsearch-forward ^S textview<nl>
	addkey incsearch-backward ^R textview<nl>
Note that incsearch-forward MUST be bound to ^S or it will do backward searche=
s.<nl>
<nl>
<bold>How can I convert paragraphs that have hard newlines within them to ATK =
paragraphs with newlines only at the ends?</bold><nl>
	read $ANDREWDIR/lib/ness/format.n<nl>
To convert text in messages or DOS files to ATK format, you need to wrap the l=
ines.  This can be done with a query replace changing newlines to spaces, but =
this is not always satisfactory because multiple spaces are needed after sente=
nce ending punctuation.  When you have a binding for ness-dostmt you can use a=
 Ness function.  Select the text to be wrapped, type ESC-ESC or your binding f=
or ness-dostmt, and then answer the prompt with <nl>
	<fixed>format_wrap()</fixed><nl>
The selected text will be wrapped appropriately.<nl>
<nl>
<nl>
<section>U7. Programming in Ness and C</section><nl>
<nl>
<bold>Is there a way to bind a keystroke or menu to a simple combination of ot=
her operations?</bold><nl>
<leftindent>You could write a "package" following the model of incremental sea=
rch, but it's lots easier just to write a short Ness function.  <nl>
	<fixed>help ness</fixed><nl>
A simple approach is to create a directory ~/nesslib and put in it the files--=
say f.n and g.n--with the Ness functions.  Then in your .atkinit or other .XXX=
init file, add the lines<nl>
	load ness<nl>
	call ness-load /usr/you/nesslib/f.n<nl>
	call ness-load /usr/you/nesslib/g.n<nl>
Substitute the full path to your nesslib directory.  Do the "load ness" line o=
nly once.<nl>
<nl>
<bold>Example 1:</bold>  Provide a menu operation to start up a typescript.  (=
This was written for a user whose window manager and typescripts died often;  =
if any window was left the user could start a typescript.)  The Ness code is:<=
nl>
<nl>
<leftindent>extend "view:frame"<nl>
	on menu "File,Typescript~85"<nl>
		system("typescript"	-- launch typescript<nl>
				-- and don't wait:<nl>
			~ " >/dev/null <lt>/dev/null  2>&1 &")<nl>
	end menu<nl>
end extend<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
<bold>Example 2:</bold> Add to messages a menu option "FollowUp-To" which sets=
 up a reply to the sender of the current message, excerpts the body of the mes=
sage into the reply, and warps the mouse to the sendmessage window.  This code=
 was the subject of a "call ness-load" in ~/.messagesinit.<nl>
<nl>
<indent>extend "view:messwind"<nl>
	on menu "This Message,Followup-To"<nl>
		messages_reply_to_sender(currentwindow)<nl>
		messages_sendmessage_compound(currentwindow,<nl>
			"sendmessage-excerpt-body;"<nl>
			~ "sendmessage-focus-on-body")<nl>
		frame_next_window(currentwindow)<nl>
		textview_end_of_text(currentinputfocus)<nl>
	end menu<nl>
end extend<nl>
</indent></leftindent><nl>
<bold>How can I create the C code for a new inset?</bold><nl>
<leftindent>	<fixed>help createinset</fixed><nl>
This program creates a directory and puts seven files in it which constitute a=
 working, though not useful, inset.  You need only modify the appropriate port=
ions to make an inset which does what you want.<nl>
</leftindent><nl>
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\begindata{text,271398072}
\textdsversion{12}
\template{help}
\define{global
}
\define{itemize
menu:[Region~4,Itemize~31]
attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768]}
\define{enumerate
menu:[Region~4,Enumerate~30]
attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768]}
\define{excerptedcaption

attr:[LeftMargin LeftMargin Inch 32768]
attr:[RightMargin RightMargin Inch 32768]
attr:[FontFace Bold Int Set]
attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]}
\define{literal
menu:[Region~4,Literal~62]
attr:[Flags PassThru Int Set]}
\define{black
menu:[Color,Black]
attr:['color' 'Black']}
\define{red
menu:[Color,Red]
attr:['color' 'Red']}
\define{green
menu:[Color,Green]
attr:['color' 'Green']}
\define{blue
menu:[Color,Blue]
attr:['color' 'Blue']}
\define{magenta
menu:[Color,Magenta]
attr:['color' 'Magenta']}
\define{cyan
menu:[Color,Cyan]
attr:['color' 'Cyan']}
\define{yellow
menu:[Color,Yellow]
attr:['color' 'Yellow']}
\define{index
menu:[Title~3,Index~91]
attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]}
\define{indexi
menu:[Title~3,InvisibleIndex~92]
attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -2]
attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]}
\define{footnote

attr:[Flags OverBar Int Set]
attr:[FontSize PreviousFontSize Point -2]}
Here's the non-MIME format version ... my apologies.

\bigger{\bold{
Andrew Toolkit 

Frequently Asked Questions

Release 5.1}}


This file contains questions from everywhere and answers from many places. 
 The sections on General Information and Common Problems Building Andrew were 
compiled by Susan Straub (susan+@andrew.cmu.edu).  The section on User 
Questions has been extracted from a larger FAQ for CMU maintained by Andrew 
Plotkin (ap1i+@andrew.cmu.edu).  You can send suggestions and comments to 
these people or directly to the consortium's mailing list/bulletin board:  


	info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu.


Send bug reports to:


	info-andrew-bugs@andrew.cmu.edu


For information about the consortium you can contact:


\leftindent{Wilfred J. Hansen

Director, Andrew Toolkit Consortium

238 UCCB   4910 Forbes Ave.

Pittsburgh, PA 15213

wjh+@andrew.cmu.edu

412 268 6710}



\bold{General Information}


\bold{G1.}  What is Andrew?

\bold{G2.}  \leftindent{How do I obtain the latest release?}

\bold{G3.}  \leftindent{Which platforms has Andrew been ported to?}

\bold{G4.}  \leftindent{What books have been written for Andrew and where can 
I obtain them?}

\bold{G5.}  \leftindent{What is the Remote Andrew Demo Service?}


\bold{Common Problems/Questions Building Andrew}


\bold{Q1. } \leftindent{Why doesn't my macro expand in site.mcr?}

\bold{Q2. } \leftindent{How can I instruct "messages" to use /usr/spool/mail 
for mail drop?}

\bold{Q3. } \leftindent{Why do I get errors when building Ultrix 4.2 against 
AFS 3.1 libraries?}

\bold{Q4.} \leftindent{ Why does the distribution as made available on MIT's 
X.V11R5 tape install files as links instead of actual files? }

\bold{Q5.}  \leftindent{Which configuration variables are used most often? }

\bold{Q6.}  \leftindent{Do I need to have AFS to run the Andrew Message System 
(AMS)?}

\bold{Q7. } \leftindent{How can I get other useful software?}

\bold{Q8.}  \leftindent{How can I use PostScript fonts other than those 
defined in /usr/andrew/X11fonts both in displayed and printed documents? }

\bold{Q9.}  \leftindent{How can I print Andrew documents?}

\bold{Q10.}  \leftindent{Ezprint outputs rasters in PostScript.  Can I print 
those rasters?}


\bold{User Questions}  (Extracted from CMU FAQ)


\bold{U0.} \leftindent{Introduction}

\bold{U1. }\leftindent{Customizing your account}

\bold{U2.} \leftindent{Playing with ATK things, including ez, typescript, 
console, and help}

\bold{U3.} \leftindent{Mail and bboards, including messages}

\bold{U4. }\leftindent{Strange file formats}

\bold{U5.} \leftindent{Working with graphics and images}

\bold{U6. }\leftindent{Fancy key bindings}

\bold{U7.} \leftindent{Programming in Ness and C}


___________________________________________________

\section{General Questions}


\bold{G1.  What is Andrew?}

\indent{The Andrew Toolkit (ATK) is a portable user-interface toolkit that 
runs under X11. It provides a dynamically-loadable object-oriented environment 
wherein objects can be embedded in one-another. Thus, one could use our 
'generic-object' editor (ez) to edit text that, in addition to containing 
multiple fonts, contains embedded raster images, spreadsheets, drawing 
editors, equations, simple animations, etc.. These embedded objects could 
themselves contain other objects, including text. With the toolkit, 
programmers can create new objects that can be embedded as easily as those 
that come with the system. Many objects, including those mentioned above, 
along with a help system, a system monitoring tool (console), an editor based 
shell interface (typescript), and support for printing multi-media documents, 
are included in the release, making it useful to programmers and 
non-programmers alike. 


The Andrew Message System(AMS) provides a multi-media interface to mail and 
bulletin-boards.  AMS contains many advanced  features including 
authentication, return receipts, automatic sorting of mail, vote collection 
and tabulation, enclosures, audit trails of related messages, and subscription 
management. It also provides a variety of interfaces that support ttys and 
low-function personal computers in addition to the high-function workstations. 

}
\bold{G2.  How do I obtain the latest release?}

\indent{This release, 5.1, can be obtained in several ways.  The entire X 
distribution is available via anonymous ftp from the Internet host 
export.lcs.mit.edu (Internet address:  18.30.0.238).  The sources of ATK and 
AMS are located in the contrib/andrew tree, one of the contributed toolkits. 
 Just the andrew tree from the X distribution, as well as the latest patches, 
is available via anonymous ftp from the Internet host, emsworth.andrew.cmu.edu 
(Internet: 128.2.30.62).   Due to its size, the compressed tar'd tree is split 
into 11 files, andrew.aa through andrew.ak (about 1MB each) in the split/ 
directory.    You should cat andrew.* together into andrew.tar.Z, uncompress 
the tree then tar -xvpf.  


}\bold{G3.  Which platforms has Andrew been ported to?}


The (intended) available machine types are:


\formatnote{\leftindent{Machine Type		Operating System		<machine>


IBM RT			AOS December 1988		rt_aos4

IBM RT			AIX 2.2.1			rt_aix221

IBM RS/6000			AIX 3.1			rs_aix31

IBM PS/2 M70/80		AIX 1.2			ps_aix12 

Sun 3				SunOS 3.5			sun3_35

Sun 3				SunOS 4.0			sun3_4

Sun 3				SunOS 4.1			sun3_41

Sun 4				SunOS 4.0			sun4_40

Sun 4				SunOS 4.1			sun4_41

DEC Vax			Ultrix 3.0			vax_3

DEC Vax			BSD (4.3)			vax_43

HP 300			HP UX				hp300

HP 900			HP UX				hp800

Macintosh II			MacMach			mac2_51

Apollo				DomainOS			apollo68k

DEC MIPS			Ultrix 3.0			pmax_3

DEC MIPS			Ultrix 4.1			pmax_41

DEC MIPS			Ultrix 4.2			pmax_42

SGI				IRIX 4.0			sgi_4d

SCO				SCO				sco_i386

}}
\bold{G4.  What books have been written for Andrew and where can I obtain 
them?}

\indent{
Nathaniel S. Borenstein's book: \italic{Multimedia Applications Development 
with the Andrew Toolkit }(Prentice-Hall).


ODA Project Book: \italic{Multi-media Document Interchange: ODA and the EXPRES 
Project }(Springer Verlag).}



____________________________

\section{Common Problems/Questions Building Andrew

}

\bold{Q1.  Why doesn't my macro expand in site.mcr?}


\leftindent{Tabs are not allowed before macro declarations in the site.mcr. 
 Although the error is not reported as such, the macro is not expanded 
properly and thus not noticed by imake.  Use spaces.  }


\bold{Q2.  How can I instruct "messages" to use /usr/spool/mail for mail drop?}


\leftindent{Although the following lines are in /usr/andrew/etc/AndrewSetup:


\leftindent{AMS_NonAMSDelivery: yes

AMS_MailBoxPrefix: /usr/spool/mail

}
Messages says, "/usr/user/Mailbox" could not be properly read and delivered (0 
success, 0 failure)". \quotation{

}
You should create a file $HOME/.mailrc and put in this line:


\leftindent{unset hold}


WARNING:  Once you start reading mail with \italic{messages}, you incoming 
mail will be stored within directories maintained by \italic{messages}.  It is 
possible to return to other mail handling systems, but it may not be easy.

}
\bold{Q3.  Why do I get errors when building Ultrix 4.2 against AFS 3.1 
libraries? }


\leftindent{You need to define AFS_ULTRIX in your site.h file.  

}
\bold{Q4. Why does the distribution as made available on MIT's X.V11R5 tape 
install files as links instead of actual files?  This fails in two 
directories:  overhead/class/lib and xmkfontd.  }


\leftindent{The distribution defaults to install links instead of files.  To 
change this, #undef LINKINSTALL_ENV in your site.h file.   If you want to 
build using LINKINSTALL_ENV, you will have to change the following two files: 


overhead/class/lib/Imakefile:\indent{


29,32d28

< #ifdef LIBDL_ENV

< install.time:: libclass.a

< 	$(INSTALL) $(INSTLIBFLAGS) libclass.a $(DESTDIR)/lib

< #else /* LIBDL_ENV */

34d29

< #endif /* LIBDL_ENV */


}xmkfontd/Imakefile:

\indent{
18c18

< 	$(INSTALL)  $\{INSTLIBFLAGS\} non-andrew.fonts.alias 
 $\{DESTDIR\}/X11fonts/fonts.alias	

---

> InstallFileToFile(non-andrew.fonts.alias, $\{INSTLIBFLAGS\}, 
$\{DESTDIR\}/X11fonts/fonts.alias)

}}\indent{
}
\bold{Q5.  Which configuration variables are used most often? }


\leftindent{AFS30_ENV

AFS31_ENV 

AMS_DELIVERY_ENV 

WHITEPAGES_ENV 

SNAP_ENV 

ANDREW_MALLOC_ENV

DEBUG_MALLOC_ENV

MK_BASIC_UTILS

MK_AUTHORING 

MK_AUX_UTILS 

MK_AUX_INSETS

MK_EXAMPLES 

RUN_AMDS_ENV

ANDREW_PRINTING_ENV

LINKINSTALL_ENV

CONTRIB_ENV 

PRE_X11R4_ENV 

DPS_ENV 

DEFAULT_ANDREWDIR_ENV 

BUILDANDREWINSTALL_ENV 

ISO80_FONTS_ENV	

FONTS_TO_PCF_ENV


CDEBUGFLAGS = -g

MAKEDODEBUG = -g

AFSBASEDIR = /usr/local

XMKFONTDIR = /usr/local/bin/mkfontdir

XFC = /usr/local/bin/bdftosnf

XLIBDIR = /usr/local/lib

XINCDIR = /usr/local/include

RESOLVLIB = $\{AFSBASEDIR\}/lib/res/libresolv.a

RESINC = -I$(AFSBASEDIR)/include/res

INCLUDES =  -I$\{BASEDIR\}/include -I$(BASEDIR)/include/atk $(RESINC) 
-I$(AFSBASEDIR)/include -I$\{XINCDIR\}


}
\bold{Q6.  Do I need to have AFS to run the Andrew Message System (AMS)?}


\leftindent{No, but having AFS gives you better functionality. 

}
\bold{Q7.  How can I get other useful software?}


\leftindent{Enormous quantities of software are available for free from the 
internet.  Many of the pieces are also available via electronic mail. 
 Subsequent paragraphs list some software that may be of value as an adjunct 
to ATK/AMS.

}
\bold{archie - archive locator}

\leftindent{A major source of information about the location of software on 
the network is 'archie'.  Send mail to 

	archie@archie.rutgers.edu

In the body of the message include line(s) of the form

	prog   name

where name is the name of the software you would like to find out about.  For 
more information, the body can contain the line

	help

The listing returned from a 'prog' request will list ftp sites containing 
information with the name you gave.  A site with a name ending in .com, .edu, 
or .gov will be in the United States and will be the best place to try.

}
\bold{ftp - file transfer package}

\leftindent{To retrieve information via ftp over the internet:  Give the 
command 

	ftp <site name>

The response will ask for your login;  reply

	anonymous

the response will ask for your email address;  type it in.  Now you can give 
the help command to see the commands.  I generally use ls, dir, cd, lcd, pwd, 
and get.

}
\bold{on the ATK cd-rom}

\leftindent{Some useful non-ATK software is included in the ATK cd-rom.  For 
details see subsequent paragraphs.

	binaries only:  X11 for RS6000, Sun 4, Dec Pmax, and HP700

	binaries and source:  metamail imake makedepend patch

	source only: ispell, psroff, pbmplus

}
\bold{X Windows System:  X11, imake, makedepend, patch}

\leftindent{Screen management and graphics software

Binaries on cdrom in <system>/X11/...

Bdf fonts  on cdrom in  src/util/bdffonts

imake, makedepend, and patch

	source on cdrom in src/util/...

	objects on cdrom in <system>/util/...

ftp: export.mit.edu and numerous other sites (see archie)

newsgroup: comp.windows.x 

mail address:

	MIT Software Distribution Center

	Technology Licensing Office

	room E32-300

	77 Massachusetts Avenue

	Cambridge, MA  02139

phone: (617) 258-8330

}
\bold{metamail}

	Converter for implementing MIME multi-media internet standard.

	newer version due early April, 1992

	contact:  Nathaniel Borenstein

		Bellcore Room 2A-274

		Morristown, NJ 07962-1910

	phone: (201) 829-4270

	email: nsb@thumper.bellcore.com

	ftp:  thumper.bellcore.com,  see  pub/nsb/README

	source: $ATKSRC/overhead/mail/metamail


\bold{pbmplus}

	Portable bit map conversion and transformation software

	version in cdrom:/src/util/pbmplus is from   10 December 1991

	contact: Jef Poskanzer

	email: jef@well.sf.ca.us


\bold{psroff}

	Software augmenting troff and providing printer drivers.

	on cdrom: src/util/psroff  is version 3.0 patch level 07

	contact:  Chris Lewis

	psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca


\bold{ispell}  

	version ion cdrom in src/util/ispell is 2.0.02

		updated with a bigger dictionary

	new version 3.0 is coming soon

	contact: Geoff Kuenning

	email:  geoff@ITcorp.com


\bold{GNU software: groff, g++, gcc, gdb, gnuemacs, ... }\leftindent{

Free software, eventually replacing Un*x

ftp: prep.ai.mit.edu

	see pub/gnu/GNUinfo/FTP

	and pub/gnu/etc/DISTRIB

email: gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu

mailing address:

	Free Software Foundation, Inc.

	675 Massachusetts Avenue

	Cambridge, MA  02139

	USA

phone:  +1 617-876-3296

}
\bold{transcript (psdit)}

	Contact: 

		Adobe

		1585 Charleston Road

		P.O. Box 7900

		Mountain View, CA 94039-7900

	phone: 1-800-833-6687


\bold{Documenter's WorkBench}

	AT&T / NCR Computer Division

		800 225 5627

	Gary Wagner  513 445 1475



\bold{Q8.  How can I use PostScript fonts other than those defined in 
/usr/andrew/X11fonts both in displayed and printed documents?

There are two aspects of this problem: screen display and print display.

Screen Display}

\leftindent{To have your own fonts used by ATK applications for displaying 
text you must first create those fonts and place them in a directory, possibly 
set up a fonts.alias file, run mkfontdir to get a fonts.dir file, and finally 
add that directory to your X fontpath.  Also, you'll have to specify in your 
preferences file the fontname:


ez.bodyfont: myfont12


}\bold{Print Display}

\leftindent{To get these fonts to print you have to create the appropriate 
troff device-specific font description files (see /usr/lib/font/devpsc for the 
Postscript fonts).  Question: Are there tools around that let you create a 
troff font? Furthermore, you'd have to alter the ATK-to-troff text translator 
(../andrew/atk/text/txtroff.c) to recognize your new font family and to make 
the appropriate mapping from your fontname to the troff fontname.  Currently, 
the only fonts used for printing are Times, Helvetica, and Courier.}



\bold{Q9. How can I print Andrew documents?}

\leftindent{
Printing requires two steps, text formatting and then driving the printer. 
 ATK utilizes troff for text formatting.  That is adequate for printing 
documents with styled texts, but some insets such as rasters and zip require 
that the printer be driven with PostScript.


Print processing is controlled via the FormatCommand and PrintCommand options, 
which can be specified in site.h during system build, the global preferences 
in $ANDREWDIR/lib/global.prf, or the user's ~/preferences file.  The most 
general defaults are:

\leftindent{*.FormatCommand: eqn -Tpsc /tmp/%s.n  | troff -Tpsc - |

*.PrintCommand: lpr -n

}The -Tpsc flags specify that the troff output is ultimately intended for a 
PostScript printer.  If you do not have one, this value must be set to 
whatever is appropriate for your printer.  ATK documents containing only 
styled text can be printed via most versions of troff and most print drivers.


To print ATK documents via PostScript printers, you have three options:

	troff - psroff

	ditroff - psdit

	groff

These differ in cost and the difficulty of installation.  See Q8 for hints on 
acquiring these packages.


\italic{troff - psroff}

Standard Unix systems are often delivered with an old troff which generates 
output for the "CAT" typesetter.  This troff can be used to print ATK 
documents by sending the output through the psroff processor, available freely 
on the internet.  See the psroff documentation.


\italic{ditroff - psdit}

This is the route we use at CMU.  \italic{ditroff} is the device independent 
troff which comes with the Documenters Work Bench portion of Unix System V. 
 \italic{psdit} is part of the "Transcript" package available from Adobe 
software.  Both ditroff and Transcript cost money.  Adjust the FormatCommand 
to utilize the ditroff version of troff (it is usually called \italic{troff}). 
 The PrintCommand should usually use the -n switch and the lpr daemon will run 
psdit.

}\italic{
}\leftindent{\italic{groff }

This package is free from the Free Software Foundation, the gnu people.  The 
only hitch is that to build \italic{groff} you must first build \italic{g++} 
and to build \italic{g++} you must first build \italic{gcc}.  We have compiled 
groff without any problems with g++-1.39.1. g++ also compiled gpic, geqn, 
gtbl.   


Groff includes gtroff to do text formatting and grops to generate PostScript. 
 To To use both, have this specification:

	*.formatcommand:      groff -pte -E /tmp/%s.n |

	*.PrintCommand: lpr -v

Note:  The -pte switches tell it to run gpic, gtbl, and geqn before running 
gtroff.  The output of gtroff is automatically piped into grops, which 
generates the PostScript.  (This assumes that /usr/gnu/bin (or wherever groff 
is installed) is on one's path.)


The drawback of this simple approach is that the ATK preview option will no 
longer work.  To retain the preview command, I believe, one can use 
specifications something like this:

	*.FormatCommand: cat /tmp/%s.n | gpic|gtbl|geqn|gtroff -Tpsc |

	*.PrintCommand: grops | lpr -v

}
\bold{Q10.  Ezprint outputs rasters in PostScript.  Can I print those rasters?}


\leftindent{If you just want to print one raster from an Andrew document, you 
can extract the raster from the troff output with a raw text editor and print 
it directly.  You may have to add the line

	20 20 translate

to get it out of the bottom corner.  You may also have to add an initial line 
containing only 

	%!


If you haven't got a postscript printer, the raster image can still be 
massaged with the pbm package.  pbm understands the Andrew format or you can 
use the output of 

	ezprint -t <file>

which will include the raster encoded in PostScript / hex form.

}

___________________________________________________

\section{User Questions}


\section{U0. Introduction}


This section has been extracted from a larger FAQ file maintained at CMU by 
Andrew Plotkin  (ap1i+@andrew.cmu.edu).  Its permission information reads:


\indent{Everything in this file is public domain. You can copy it, mail it to 
people, put bits of it in other files, print it out in 500-point type and 
staple it to the walls, whatever you want -- I'm happy to give you the 
opportunity, and I couldn't do a thing about it if I wanted to.


Thanks to the multiple people who provided me with questions and answers.}

\smaller{
}
\section{U1. Customizing your account

}
\bold{How can I customize my Andrew account?}

\leftindent{For info on your preferences file:

\typewriter{	help preferences}   (or \typewriter{help prefs})\typewriter{

}}
\bold{I edited my .cshrc, but now I get strange errors when I start 
\italic{typescript}}, or\bold{

I edited my .login, but now I get strange errors when I log in}, or\bold{

I edited my .plan, but now I get strange symbols when I \italic{finger} 
myself}, or\bold{

I edited my .Xresources, but now I get strange errors when I start X}, 
or\bold{

I edited this file, but now I get strange errors....}

\leftindent{If you use \italic{ez} to edit your .plan, .login, .logout, 
preferences, .cshrc, .Xresources, .Xclients, .Xmodmap, .signature, or any file 
like that: you \italic{must} get rid of any styles you put in. You can't have 
sections of bold, or typewriter, or italics, or different text sizes, or 
indentation. (Not even in your .plan file or .signature, although that would 
be nice.) Use "Plainest" on the whole file if you have to.

}

\section{U2. Playing with ATK things

}
\bold{How do I customize an ATK program?

}\leftindent{See the help file on it. The ATK help files are more friendly 
than average; lots of examples, no words over two syllables, etc.

}
\bold{How do I change the behavior, fonts, and so on in ATK windows and menus?

}\leftindent{Most of these are controlled by preferences:

\typewriter{	help preferences

	help menubar

}The lines described in these help files go in your \italic{preferences} file. 
For example, 

\typewriter{	*.Thumbscroll: yes

}will cause the text in any ATK window to swoop up and down when you wiggle 
the scroll bar.

\typewriter{	typescript.Thumbscroll: yes

}will cause that to happen only in \italic{typescript} windows.


A major exception is the appearance of the pop-up menus you get when you press 
and hold the middle button. These are controlled by X resources (when you are 
running X.)

\typewriter{	help cmenu

}The resources described in this help file go in your \italic{.Xresources} 
file. 

\typewriter{	*TitleFont: andysans22b

}will cause your menu card titles to be printed in a 22-point bold sans-serif 
font. 

\typewriter{	help*TitleFont: andysans22b

}will cause that to happen only in \italic{help} windows.

(Notice the format of an \italic{.Xresources} entry is different from a 
\italic{preferences} entry.)

}
\bold{I have a color display.  Can I get windows in colors other than black 
and white?}

\leftindent{Yes, set the colors in your preference file with lines like this:


\leftindent{# darker blue on lighter tan.  tan good.  (blue not really dark 
enough)

ez.foregroundcolor: #003ea2

ez.backgroundcolor: wheat

}
For colors you can run \italic{xcolorpick} or edit the file 
/usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt.   Color names are recognized by X only if they are in 
rgb.txt.

If you want colors just for one execution of a program, you can set them on 
the command line:

	typescript -fg black -bg burlywood


Here's a technique for setting color preferences based on the value of the 
environment variable ISCOLOR, which you can set in your .login file as 
follows:  


\leftindent{set TTY = `tty`

if ($TTY == /dev/console || \\

	$TTY == /dev/hft/0 || \\

	$TTY == /dev/ttyaed || \\

	$TTY == /dev/ttyapa16 || \\

	$TTY == /dev/ttyap16 || \\

	$TTY == /dev/tty8514 || \\

	$TTY == /dev/pty/ttyse || \\

	$TTY == /dev/ttymono) then

	set consolelogin = 1

	echo -n "Color display? [y/n]: "

	set answer = $<

	if ($answer" =~ [Yy]*) then

		setenv ISCOLOR 1

		echo "color console login"

	else

		echo "console login"

	endif

	unset answer

endif}


You can then reference this variable in your preferences file: 


\leftindent{?E=ISCOLOR=1:ez.backgroundcolor: antiquewhite1

?E=ISCOLOR=1:console.backgroundcolor: cornsilk

?E=ISCOLOR=1:typescript.backgroundcolor: cornsilk3

?E=ISCOLOR=1:help.backgroundcolor: cornsilk3

?E=ISCOLOR=1:messages.backgroundcolor: cornsilk2

?E=ISCOLOR=1:bush.backgroundcolor: #e5d7c6

}}
\bold{How do I add styles to ATK documents?

}\typewriter{\leftindent{	help ez-styles

}}
\bold{How do I add tables of contents and footnotes to ATK documents?

}\typewriter{\leftindent{	help ez-contents

	help ez-footnotes

}}
\bold{How do I adjust line spacing and margins in ATK documents?

}\leftindent{\typewriter{	help ez

}and scroll down to "Formatting text: line spacing and margins".

}
\bold{What keystroke commands work in ATK programs?

}\leftindent{\typewriter{	help ez-keys

}Notice that most gnu-emacs keys work in ATK programs. 

}
\bold{How do I work with multiple ez windows or multiple buffers?

}\typewriter{\leftindent{	help ez-buffers

}}
\bold{How do I remove ATK formatting from an ATK document, to turn it into 
plain text?

}\leftindent{The easy way is to edit it with \italic{ez}, select (highlight) 
the entire document, and select "Plainest". 

This will not work if the document has pagebreaks, footnotes, or insets (such 
as embedded rasters.)

If you don't want to start up \italic{ez}, you can use \italic{ez2ascii}:

\typewriter{	ez2ascii filename

}
Another alternative is to type

\typewriter{	rtfm -f filename

}This produces output with terminal formatting. It will look ok in an xterm, 
and underlining and boldface will show up correctly. However, it will fail 
nastily in a typescript, or if you put the output in a file and edit it. 


For more info, see

\typewriter{	help ez2ascii

	help rtfm

}}
\bold{How can I write my own \italic{console} layout?

}\leftindent{\typewriter{	help lacc

}The publically-available console layouts are in /usr/local/lib/consoles. If 
you want to write your own, it's best to start with one of these and modify 
it.


Once you've written your console layout file, add this line to your 
preferences:

\typewriter{	console.default: consolefilename

}where consolefile is a full pathname (no ~'s), for example

/afs/andrew/usr99/userid/layoutfile

}
\bold{What is a help search path?

}\leftindent{Look at

\typewriter{	help preferences

}and scroll down to "Help preferences." (Redundant, aren't I? And repetitive.)

The default help search path includes the help directories for all the 
standard Andrew programs, and everything in /usr/contributed. To add, for 
example, the help directory for the Computer Club's programs, you would add 
this line to your preferences:

\typewriter{	help.searchpath: /afs/andrew.cmu.edu/usr0/cl0x/man

}If you have more than one directory in this line, they should be separated by 
colons, not spaces.


The search path is read in when you start \italic{help}. If help is already 
running, you can add a directory to the search path by choosing "Add Search 
Directory" from the menu. This change is only temporary and will go away when 
you quit help. To permanently add a directory, you have to put it in your 
preferences.

}

\section{U3.  Mail and bboards

}\bold{
How do I set options for \italic{messages}?

}\leftindent{Select "Set Options" on the "Other" menu card. This will bring up 
a long list of options where the message titles usually are, and explanations 
and switches where the message bodies usually are. You can scroll through 
either list, and click on the switches to change things. (Some of these 
changes take effect immediately; for others, you have to quit and restart 
\italic{messages}.) 

There are a few, more obscure, options that you can set in your preferences 
file. Type

\typewriter{	help preferences

}and scroll down to "Andrew Messages System preferences". 

}

\section{U4. Strange file formats

}
\bold{How do I convert rasters, bitmaps, or images from one type to another?

}\leftindent{To convert old-style ATK rasters (.ras) to new-style ATK rasters 
(.raster) or vice-versa,

\typewriter{	help convertraster

}\italic{convertraster} claims to be able to convert MacPaint files that you 
have ftp'd to Andrew. This may not be reliable.

To convert other image types, including X bitmaps, MacPaint files, and GIFs, 

\typewriter{	help pbm

	help pnm}

and also see the help files on all the little programs they mention.


Some notes:

	PBM, PPM, and PGM are special image file formats which are designed to be 
"intermediate" conversion formats. That is, you can convert anything to these 
formats, and then convert it to anything else. (The RLE format is another 
"intermediate" format available on Andrew. For information on it, see the help 
file on URT.)

	PBM ("portable bitmap") is for simple black-and-white images like those 
produced by MacPaint or \italic{bitmap}. PGM ("portable greymap") is for 
images with shades of grey, and PPM ("portable pixmap") is for full-color 
images. PNM ("portable any-map") is not a file format; a program called 
"pnm-something" can handle PBM, PPM, or PGM files.

	PBM, PGM, and PPM can be interconverted with the appropriate programs 
(\italic{ppmtopgm, pgmtopbm}.) Both of these lose information, of course: 
ppmtopgm reduces the color image to shades of grey, and pgmtopbm changes 
shades to grey to black-and-white (although it will simulate grey by mixing 
black and white dots.)

	Also, a PGM file can be used whenever a PPM file is expected (ie, as input to 
\italic{ppm-something}), and a PBM file can be used whenever either of the 
other two formats is expected. This is reasonable, since a bitmap is just a 
greyscale image with only two shades of grey, and a greyscale image is just a 
color image with only grey colors.

	The PBM, PNM, PPM, and PGM programs (\italic{xbmtopbm}, \italic{pbmtorast}, 
\italic{pnmrotate}, etc.) are not invoked directly; instead, you run 
\italic{pbm} with the actual program name as the first argument. (Umm, that's 
still confusing. See the examples below.) 

	All the conversion programs (except convertraster) work as filters. See the 
examples below.

	There are two programs, \italic{atobm} and \italic{bmtoa}, which convert X 
bitmaps to and from ASCII files. There are no help files on them.

	The MacPaint to RLE program, \italic{painttorle}, is not reliable for large 
(full-screen) MacPaint files.

	PostScript files are designed only to be printed, so they're hard to convert 
to any other format. If you want to do that, you should view the file with 
\italic{dxpsview} and then take a window dump of the \italic{dxpsview} window 
(which produces an XWD file), and then convert that.


To convert an X bitmap to a PBM file, use

\typewriter{	cat file.bm | pbm xbmtopbm > file.pbm


}To convert a PBM file to an X bitmap file, use

\typewriter{	cat file.pbm | pbm pbmtoxbm > file.bm

}
To convert a GIF to PostScript, use

\typewriter{	cat file.gif | pbm giftoppm | pbm ppmtops > file.ps}


To convert a MacPaint file that you've ftp'd to Andrew to PBM, use

\typewriter{	cat file.paint | painttorle | rletoppm | pbm ppmtopgm | pbm 
pgmtopbm > file.pbm

}}
\section{
U5.  Working with graphics and images

}
\bold{What drawing and painting programs are available on Andrew?

}\leftindent{(Drawing programs are the ones like MacDraw, that let you put 
down geometric objects and then move them around, change their sizes, and so 
on. Painting programs, like MacPaint, let you splot paint down on a raster, 
possibly in geometric shapes, and edit it pixel by pixel.)

There are the ATK versions, \italic{zip} (drawing) and \italic{raster} 
(painting). \italic{zip} is slow and somewhat buggy, and nobody uses it. 
\italic{raster} is very primitive, and nobody uses it. However, they have the 
advantage of letting you put zip-drawings or rasters into ATK documents along 
with text.

\typewriter{	help zip

	help raster

}}\section{
U6. Fancy key bindings}


Some packages commonly used by developers are not normally bound to keys in 
order to simplify the user interface.  If you want to bind them, add the given 
line to your ~/.atkinit file or to apply the binding just to application 
\italic{xxx}, add the line to ~/.\italic{xxx}init.

	\typewriter{help initfiles}


\bold{How can I execute an arbitrary expression?}

	\typewriter{help ness}

and read

	\typewriter{$ANDREWDIR/doc/atk/ness/nesshack.doc}

The normal binding of this function is ESC-ESC, though some people find this 
too easy to type by mistake (and Ness does take a couple of seconds to load 
the first time it is called).  To get the ESC-ESC binding add to your .atkinit 
the line:

	\typewriter{addkey ness-dostmt  \\e\\e  view  }


\bold{What is the "proctable"?}

\typewriter{	help procs}

Menu entries and key sequences are not bound directly to functions in C code. 
 Instead they are bound to routines made available by the C code for the 
various insets.  For instance, the operation on text usually bound to ESC-b, 
which moves the cursor backward by one word, is the proctable function 
\italic{textview-backward-word}.  When such a function is called from Ness, 
however, the dashes are written as underscores: 
\italic{textview_backward_word}.  


How can I find out what is in the proctable?

	\typewriter{help deskey}

The deskey package offers several proctable functions which can be bound to 
keys or menu entries.  My own usage is given by these lines in my ~/.atkinit:

	\typewriter{addkey deskey-describe-bound-keys ^XK im

	addkey deskey-describe-proctable ^XP im}

Then control-X-shift-K opens another window showing all the current key 
bindings and control-X-shift-P opens a window showing all functions currently 
in the proctable.  More functions are added as insets with new user interfaces 
are added.


\bold{How can I execute an arbitrary proctable function?}

	\typewriter{help metax}

The metax package offers two operations to bind to keys.  They prompt for a 
function to execute and provide name completion by examining the proctable for 
function names.  To bind ESC-x the operation that calls a function without 
passing an argument add to .atkinit the line:

	\typewriter{addkey metax "\\ex" view metax}


\bold{How can I get file name completion in typescript?}

If you are typing a file name to ez, you can get file name completion with 
space and question mark.  The same functionality is available in the 
typescript window, but it is better to bind it to other keys.  The following 
in you .atkinit:

	addkey fcomp-complete-filename "\\t" typescript

	addkey fcomp-possible-completions "\\e\\t" typescript

will bind TAB so it completes the currently entered file name as far as it can 
and will bind ESC-TAB so it offers a list of all possible completions (as a 
list in the typescript).


\bold{Can I perform incremental search as in gnuemacs?

	}\typewriter{help search}\bold{

}\typewriter{	help gsearch

}Yes, three different alternative search packages are available.  Dynamic 
search is described in the help file for search and a gnuemacs clone is 
described in the gsearch helpfile.  (Unfortunately, when you ask for help on 
'search', you get the gsearch helpfile;  you have to select \italic{twice} the 
menu option Show More Documentation.)  


A simplified incremental search package with no documentation can be bound 
with

	addkey incsearch-forward ^S textview

	addkey incsearch-backward ^R textview

Note that incsearch-forward MUST be bound to ^S or it will do backward 
searches.


\bold{How can I convert paragraphs that have hard newlines within them to ATK 
paragraphs with newlines only at the ends?}

	read $ANDREWDIR/lib/ness/format.n

To convert text in messages or DOS files to ATK format, you need to wrap the 
lines.  This can be done with a query replace changing newlines to spaces, but 
this is not always satisfactory because multiple spaces are needed after 
sentence ending punctuation.  When you have a binding for ness-dostmt you can 
use a Ness function.  Select the text to be wrapped, type ESC-ESC or your 
binding for ness-dostmt, and then answer the prompt with 

	\typewriter{format_wrap()}

The selected text will be wrapped appropriately.



\section{U7. Programming in Ness and C}


\bold{Is there a way to bind a keystroke or menu to a simple combination of 
other operations?}

\leftindent{You could write a "package" following the model of incremental 
search, but it's lots easier just to write a short Ness function.  

	\typewriter{help ness}

A simple approach is to create a directory ~/nesslib and put in it the 
files--say f.n and g.n--with the Ness functions.  Then in your .atkinit or 
other .XXXinit file, add the lines

	load ness

	call ness-load /usr/you/nesslib/f.n

	call ness-load /usr/you/nesslib/g.n

Substitute the full path to your nesslib directory.  Do the "load ness" line 
only once.


\bold{Example 1:}  Provide a menu operation to start up a typescript.  (This 
was written for a user whose window manager and typescripts died often;  if 
any window was left the user could start a typescript.)  The Ness code is:


\leftindent{extend "view:frame"

	on menu "File,Typescript~85"

		system("typescript"	-- launch typescript

				-- and don't wait:

			~ " >/dev/null </dev/null  2>&1 &")

	end menu

end extend

}
\bold{Example 2:} Add to messages a menu option "FollowUp-To" which sets up a 
reply to the sender of the current message, excerpts the body of the message 
into the reply, and warps the mouse to the sendmessage window.  This code was 
the subject of a "call ness-load" in ~/.messagesinit.


\indent{extend "view:messwind"

	on menu "This Message,Followup-To"

		messages_reply_to_sender(currentwindow)

		messages_sendmessage_compound(currentwindow,

			"sendmessage-excerpt-body;"

			~ "sendmessage-focus-on-body")

		frame_next_window(currentwindow)

		textview_end_of_text(currentinputfocus)

	end menu

end extend

}}
\bold{How can I create the C code for a new inset?}

\leftindent{	\typewriter{help createinset}

This program creates a directory and puts seven files in it which constitute a 
working, though not useful, inset.  You need only modify the appropriate 
portions to make an inset which does what you want.

}
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CALL FOR PAPERS  -  Andrew Technical Conference, 1992


The Andrew Toolkit Consortium is pleased to invite your contributions to


	Andrew Technical Conference, 1992

	--  Interfaces beyond ASCII  --


When I write a program, I usually draw little pictures to explain data 
structures or decision logic.  Why are these pictures lost when the program 
exists?  This is part of the larger question of universal information forms.


The canonical information form--the lingua franca between applications--has 
progressed from single-case text, to ASCII, and now ISO-8859.  Applications 
are beyond this stage, however, incorporating typographic text and embedded 
images, so it is time to begin extending the canonical information form with 
support for enhanced text at a fundamental level of the system.  It should 
always be possible to cut and paste between applications.  Program constants 
and comments (at least) should allow illustrations.  Data bases should store 
pictures of parts and logos of suppliers.  Electronic mail should routinely 
transfer information with the full complexity of the printed page, but without 
the frozen and bloated form of fax representations.  As a reader of an 
electronic message, I should be able to extract all or a portion of a message 
and massage it further with the same ease as the original author.


ATK and AMS, the Andrew Toolkit and Andrew Message System, offer an 
environment in which applications can shareextended text and other objects. 
 Indeed, AMS has offered interchange of formated information since 1987.  The 
theme of this year's ATK/AMS technical conference -- Interfaces beyond ASCII 
-- is to share experience and speculate on further requirements and 
possibilities for integrated environments with higher level information forms.


In addition to papers related to the theme, the conference invites papers on 
the entire realm of ATK and AMS:


	applications based on the toolkit

	extensions to the toolkit

	new objects

	data stream alternatives

	alternative toolkits



Proposals due: 10 May 1992

Acceptance by: 20 May

Completed papers due: 15 June

Electronic submission in ATK format is encouraged, but not required.


Conference dates and location:


	June 25-26, 1992  (Thursday and Friday)

	Adamson Wing

	Carnegie Mellon University

	Pittsburgh PA

		Tutorials: 25 June 1992

		Annual meeting: evening of June 25

		Technical Conference: 26 June



Proceedings will be made available.


For more information, contact:


	Wilfred J. Hansen

	Director, Andrew Toolkit Consortium

	School of Computer Science

	Carnegie Mellon

	238 UCCB

	4910 Forbes Ave.

	Pittsburgh, PA 15213


	wjh+@andrew.cmu.edu

	412-268-6788


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>"~/preferences", regardless of whether the user uses ~/preferences,
>~/.preferences, or ~/X11defaults as his personal preferences file

Where'd ~/X11defaults come from?  Do you mean .Xdefaults?

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>        SUN 4c Sparcstation  (SunOS 4.1.1)

I.e., it's built using the SunOS 4.1[.x] version of the dynamic linking
code, running atop the SunOS 4.1[.x] "-ldl" stuff, rather than the
pre-4.1[.x] version, with its own dynamic loader?  Most people are
probably running 4.1[.x] on their SPARC machines, but it's still useful
to note that it requires 4.1[.x], just in case some laggard out there is
still running 4.0.3c or something silly such as that.

>    For example, the HP700 binaries will probably run on the HP800.

Presumably you compiled it with the "don't use PA 1.1 features" flag
mentioned in an earlier message, then?

>Can't Auspex fork over some cash instead of you?

Well, given that the main use Auspex currently has for ATK is that the
build of ATK is used as a test of memory expansion boards, I suspect
not.  (Yes, I'm serious.)
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As I remember it, vui is the *direct* descent of the first msdos AMS
client, which was called PC-Messages.  This explains why some of
the options seem strange in unixland -- choosing to save to a "local" or
"remote" file.

I once heard a claim that support for AMS to read netnews article trees
would show up, but haven't heard anything since.  Volunteers?
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In article <oduWF0q0ts4jI1GqMQ@alw.nih.gov> Bob_Dew@ALW.NIH.GOV writes:
>
>
>
>-  Sun 4 Spell Checking:  When Andrew is compiled with optimization and
>without debugging, ATK applications crash when the "spell" menu option
>is selected

I did not realize this is a software bug. So has anybody had any luck
with it ?

thanks
d.

-- 
------
"Like a harsh neon streaking  through the velvet darkness 
the whetted knife of Life tore its path through her Dreams"
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>The CD-ROM will include all sources and complete object trees for the
>IBM RS/6000, HP 700 Snake,

Are the Snakes the only HP-PA machines running HP-UX 8.0?  If not, will
the Snake binaries run on other HP-PA machines running 8.0?  (I'm
assuming you require 8.0's dynamic linking.)

> DEC PMAX,

And, presumably other DEC MIPS-based machines.

> and Sun 4.

And, presumably, other SPARC-based machines running SunOS 4.x. 
("champion.auspex.com", as cited in the "Nntp-Posting-Host" header, is a
SPARC-based machine running SunOS 4.x, but it ain't a Sun-4, or any kind
of Sun - and it *can* run ATK.  No prizes for guessing what kind of
machine it is.... :-))

(I.e., using reasonably inclusive names for families of machines is a
Good Thing, as in the three examples above.)

>(Hint: Join now; help ensure there will be further updates ;-)

I would, if you'd allow individuals to join, but when I asked about it,
you indicated there wouldn't be any provisions for that.  I'd might even
be willing to some non-negligible amount, being a typical overpaid
underworked Silly Valley UNIX weenie.... :-)
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I have to agree that Bill sounds quite reasonable on this one, but the only 
observation I really want to make is this.  If MIME (multipart) can't encode 
at least some multi-object ATK documents for mailing, then there's a 
deficiency in MIME or its interpretation.  Can I presume that an entire 
multipart boundary can be interpreted as something like 
``\\enddata\{x\}\\begindata\{y\}''?  Certainly this doesn't give you real 
nesting, but if you interpret the whole multi-part message as having the first 
part start with something like ``\\begindata\{z\}\\begindata\{x\}'' and the 
last part end with ``\\enddata\{y\}\\enddata\{z\}'', you get most ATK uses of 
objects.


(Caveat--I'm really out of my expertise here.)


There's a simple architecture to all the proposals:

	- if a document is OK to represent as text, represent as text;

	- else if it's OK to represent as MIME, represent as MIME;

	- else represent as full ATK.

(Yes, there's the dither about providing fallback representations for 
non-extended readers.)

Nathaniel apparently thinks that documents are never OK to represent as text 
and that it's always OK to represent them as MIME.  Bill thinks that it's 
sometimes OK to represent as text, but if not, it's never adequate to 
represent as MIME.  I'd suggest that Bill's plan is good, but that there are 
some documents (simple sequences of objects) that could not be represented as 
text but that MIME can capture.  This suggestion is based on my belief that 
Nathaniel will work hard to make that set encompass lots of ATK, but is also 
based on my hope that he won't lose ATK-specific information simply because he 
wishes that MIME \italic{\bold{should}} be able to do anything.


		Craig

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cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.\ writes:
> I once heard a claim that support for AMS to read netnews article trees
> would show up, but haven't heard anything since.  Volunteers?

I'm doing this right now, sorta.  Here's what I did.

I keep my news in /usr/spool/news (aka. ~news).  I created
~news/.MESSAGES, and put a ".amsalien" file in there.  I made symbolic
links from all the top level news trees into ~news/.MESSAGES.  I
whipped up a little Perl script to read /usr/lib/news/active and
create ~news/.MESSAGES/.SubscriptionMap from it.  Then I hacked
together another perl script to do a reconstruct of all the folders in
the .SubscriptionMap file (it invokes cui).  If I'm remembering right,
that's all it took to get started.  It's not as clean as it could be
-- every once in a while I need to do a "cui scavenge foo purge recurse"
for new messages under "foo.*" to show up, and I'm still doing that by
hand at this point (easy to put in cron though).  I haven't yet looked
at making the scavenge operation more efficient (lack of time).  I
don't have too many newsgroups on my machine, so it's not so bad.
-- 
Doug DeJulio
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ddj@zardoz.club.cc.cmu.edu (MIME, ATK/AMS and NeXT mail welcome)
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Will the new release include a working getstats for multi-cpu DEC machines?
I don't think any of the currently released getstats will work on them now...

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From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!darwin.sura.net!nih-csl!newssrv.dcrt.nih.gov!ghebeles@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Timothy G. Ghebeles)
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Is it possible to pass tokens while doing an rlogin under AFS 3.1?

I have tried various combinations of rlogin's from DEC/SUN AFS clients to
other DEC/SUN AFS clients and can't get any authentication on the remote
AFS client.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

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I need, given an xfontdesc instance, to determine the name of the X font
used to implement it.  There is a method called GetRealFontDesc, which
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Shouldn't there be some method on xfontdesc to determine this?

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In article <oduWF0q0ts4jI1GqMQ@alw.nih.gov> Bob_Dew@ALW.NIH.GOV writes:
>- Sun 4 Spell Checking:  When Andrew is compiled with optimization and
>without debugging, ATK applications crash when the "spell" menu option
>is selected

I'd be willing to bet that the "spell" option calls vfork(), and failed
to "#include <vfork.h>" on the SparcStation.  This would definitely
cause the problem you describe.

		- Chris
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Hey everybody!  This list contain a posting that contained the patch
that corrected the problem with spell and other sub-processes.

This was a problem in several modules in atk/extensions: spell.c,
tags.c, filter.c, compile.c.  It's ***FIXED***!

-wdc

I don't have the message, but here's the RCS log and the context diff again:

date: 91/12/03 18:47:13;  author: gk5g;  state: Exp;  lines added/del: 4/4
Added exit call after exec'ing the child process.  This was previously a
return call and that caused core dumps on the Sun when optimization is
enabled.  The main symptom was that the spell checker would core dump in
this case.

*** /tmp/,RCSt1004226	Thu Apr 16 19:46:41 1992
--- spell.c	Mon Jan 13 15:20:48 1992
***************
*** 97,103 ****
          setpgrp(0, getpid());
  #endif
          execlp("/bin/csh", "csh", "-cf", command, (char *)NULL);
!         return NULL;
      }
  
      close(outpipe[READFD]);
--- 97,103 ----
          setpgrp(0, getpid());
  #endif
          execlp("/bin/csh", "csh", "-cf", command, (char *)NULL);
!         exit(0);
      }
  
      close(outpipe[READFD]);
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From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!mips!munnari.oz.au!metro!otc!gregm@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU  (Greg McFarlane)
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Does anyone know if there are ez keybindings for Bold, Italic, Bigger,
Smaller, etc? For example, the keystrokes ^X^S is equivalent to
selecting Save on the main menu. How about keybinding for the other menu
items? Is there a general way to map keys to functions?

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Alt-'b => bold

Alt-'i => italic

Alt-'p => plainer

Alt-'l => insert-style-prompt


At least this is how it looks by default from an RS/6000 keyboard. (I actually 
use Alt-s as my prefix rather than Alt-', but that's another story...)


--fish

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\define{bindlist
}
\define{binddesc
}
You might want to try adding some of the following proctable entries to your 
init files (if they're not gloably set already?)


----------------

   ^X-K  deskey-describe-bound-keys   - Show bindings for all keys.

   ^X-P  deskey-describe-bound-procs  - Show bindings for all keys.

  Esc-?  deskey-describe-key          - Show binding of a typed in key 
sequence.

  Esc-_  deskey-describe-proctable    - List all proctable entries.; Return 
count.

----------------

deskey-describe-bound-keys (im)      - Show bindings for all keys.

deskey-describe-bound-procs (im)     - Show bindings for all keys.

deskey-describe-key (im)             - Show binding of a typed in key 
sequence.

deskey-describe-proctable (im)=> Long - List all proctable entries.; Return 
count.

deskey-list-proctable (im)=> Long     - List the entries in the proctable to 
/tmp/ProcList;   Return count.

----------------


format: [.atkinit]

	addkey <proc-name> <binding> [<specifics>]


(the last field(s) actually have a meaning, I just don't remember what 
off-hand)


example:

addkey deskey-describe-key \\e? im

addkey deskey-describe-bound-keys ^XK im

addkey deskey-describe-bound-procs ^XP im

addkey deskey-describe-proctable \\e_ im



--fish

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Date: 26 Mar 92 21:39:43 GMT
From: willis.cis.uab.edu!utkcs2!ornl!tdum.CTD.ORNL.GOV!jnm@gatech.edu  (Jamey Maze)
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I just got andrew built on my Sun today and am rather impressed. Could
someone answer few questions for me? 

- I'd like to find out more about the ATK Consortium, like what does it 
do, who are the current members, and how much does it cost to join. 

- Where can I get hold of the PC and Mac versions? I assume the Mac
version uses MacTCP, but whose TCP stack (e.g., FTP Software's) does the
PC version use?

- Isn't there an RFC that defines a standard for multmedia mail? How
close is AMS to meeting that standard? What other mailers can do
multimedia mail?

Thanks!
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from internet.other.info-andrew: 16-Apr-92 getstats 
for DEC risc boxes? Marc Pawliger@ibmpa.awdp (466)}


\quotation{Will the new release include a working getstats for multi-cpu DEC 
machines?

}
I don't think so.  We don't have any multi-cpu machines, so unless someone 
contributes it we probably won't have any support for them.


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Toolkit Consortium


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\quotation{ Is "struct font *" really another name for "void *"? 

}\quotation{Shouldn't there be some method on xfontdesc to determine this?

}
Yes, it is basically meant as void *.  Really you should never rely on being 
under X...  (Of course that's mainly a philosophical stance at this point, but 
ATK is supposed to be window-system independent.)


It might be useful to add a method to fontdesc to return a char * representing 
the font name. Then override this in xfontdesc.  We would be happy to 
incorporate a patch for this in our next release.


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Toolkit Consortium

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In article <138*.S=wilde.OU=komsys.OU=tik.O=ethz.PRMD=SWITCH.ADMD=ARCOM.C=CH.@MHS>, wilde@komsys.tik.ethz.ch (Erik Wilde) writes:
! We are trying to compile the ATK with gcc on a Sun3 running SunOS 4.0.
! We had some problems concerning the linker, because one class, boxview, included
! a header file which was modified by gcc (in comparison to the normal Sun
! includes) to use a gcc-specific library function. Since the gcc compiler is only
! used for compiling, not for linking, the Andrew class system doesn't know
! anything about the gcc library. We were able to modify the makedo shell script
! to include the gcc library. However, the doindex binary complained about the
! undefined symbol and we couldn't figure out how to modify doindex. The way we
! solved the problem was to remodify the modified header file (assert.h) so that
! the gcc-lib function (it's __eprintf) isn't used any more.
! Now there's the question, are there any experiences compiling ATK and ATK
! applications with gcc and is there any configuration option that allows adding
! libraries to the class system? Any help is greatly appreciated.
! 
! Erik Wilde
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I have a problem with ness :
/X/usr/andrew/bin/makedo -g -d /X/usr/andrew/lib -b /X/usr/andrew/bin -o lex.do
lex.o
dofix:  Undefined:  ___fixunsdfsi
doload:  Errors while processing
doindex: indexing lex.do ...doload:  Undefined symbol: ___fixunsdfsi
doload:  Errors while processing
doindex: NULL entrypoint from lex.do...program terminated!
*** Error code 1

I haven't solved it. 

This reminds me of something that exists in the port to SCO unix:

There is a macro called COMPILERLIBS, which should be set to 
/usr/local/lib/gcc-gnulib. It is used in the Imakefile in
overhead/class/machdep/sco_i386. I never quite figured out what
it does, but it solved some problems with unresolved externals from
the gcc library.


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Here is the documentation I gave my users on key bindings for formatting
commands:  (Note that "M-" represents the "Meta" key which is the "Alt"
key on an IBM RT, the "Compose Character" key on a DEC LK-201 keyboard,
and is also the "Esc" key.)

The following new keyboard commands enable you to stylilze regions, or
to change the style of the next characters you type:

    M-' M-i     italic
    M-' M-b     bold
    M-' M-^     superscript
    M-' M-!     subscript
    M-' M-_     underline
    M-' M-t     typewriter
    M-' M-+     bigger
    M-' M--     smaller
    M-' M-=     center
    M-' M-<     flushleft
    M-' M->     flushright
    M-' M-      TAB> leftindent
    M-' M-p     Plainer
    M-' M-P     Plainest

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(oooooooooops :-) Bill is right - the Meta/Alt key is the prefix for *both* 
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Sorry 'bout that.


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Would it be better to use one of

	_exit(0)

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Yes, after the CD I'll change those occurances to _exit(1).


-Gary

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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 9-Apr-92 Keybindings in ATK
"ez" mul.. Greg McFarlane@otc.otca. (527)

>  How about keybinding for the other menu items? Is there a general way
> to map keys to functions?

The deskey package (help deskey) provides several proctable entries for
obtaining information on available functions and their current
keybindings.  There is no direct way to establish which functions are
bound to what menu items without looking at the source unfortunately. 
Other packages of interest when dealing with bindings are: metax and
ness.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Toolkit Consortium
p.s. the release after the CDROM release will have most key equivalents
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\quotation{One problem, or perhaps personal dislike I have with the beta
releases in general, however, is that mono screens don't handle color
preferences options well--ATK displays viewed on mono screens become
unreadable when certain color combinations are selected.

}
I was brainstorming a way to solve this problem the other day.  Suppose ATK
parsed a color name which looks like this:


\example{SlateBlue|white

}
where the left side is the color name and the right side is the monochrome
alternative (is a pipe char a good choice?).  The monochrome alternatives
would be \italic{white}, \italic{black} or \italic{dither}, where
\italic{dither} would be the default.  Then we could use color names in
templates without having to keep color and monochrome templates separate.
 This hack should affect only a couple of lines of code in the toolkit.


The idea could be extended to solve the text highlighting problem for color
text.  Perhaps the color ``specification'' could include the inverted color
choice (which means textview needs to be changed to redraw in the inverted
color if specified).


Currently my preferences is filled with ?E's, and my TEMPLATEPATH is special
on a color display.  Lots of yucky stuff to keep straight.


-todd inglett

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\quotation{I was brainstorming a way to solve this problem the other day. 
 Suppose ATK parsed a color name which looks like this:

}
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}}
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\quotation{The idea could be extended to solve the text highlighting problem 
for color text.  Perhaps the color ``specification'' could include the 
inverted color choice (which means textview needs to be changed to redraw in 
the inverted color if specified).

}
I'm afraid you really don't want text redrawing as you extend a selection... 
 Unfortunately the text drawing code is pretty expensive, and doesn't know how 
to do partial updates very well.  That issue aside the syntax could be 
something like:


\example{SlateBlue/MidnightBlue|dither}


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Toolkit Consortium



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Another idea...


The field after the | could have the value \typewriter{threshold} to indicate 
that the choice of black or white should be made on the brightness of the 
color.


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At MIT we've independently developed a kludge for another application to
specify colors for multiple display types that separates the fields with
a comma:

    Wherever a color (such as foreground or background) is specified, the
    user is allowed to specify THREE items instead of one.  By way of
    example, a user might write:

        xclock.foreground:  white,gray75,red

    On a black&white display, white would be used, on a grayscale, gray75 is
    used, and an a color display, red is used.

    If only TWO items are specified, then the first is used on b&w, and the
    second on grayscale and color.

    If only ONE item is specified, then it is used on all 3 display types.
    In this manner, it is backwardly compatible with the standard Xt method
    of specifying colors.

I don't suppose I could convince you to go with something compatible
with our kludge?

-wdc
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\quotation{Wherever a color (such as foreground or background) is specified, 
the

}\quotation{    user is allowed to specify THREE items instead of one.  By way 
of

}\quotation{    example, a user might write:

}
\quotation{        xclock.foreground:  white,gray75,red

}
\quotation{    On a black&white display, white would be used, on a grayscale, 
gray75 is

}\quotation{    used, and an a color display, red is used.

}
I think this and the previous method could coexist reasonably well.    In the 
case of only one color being present both do the same thing, If there are more 
that two items the different separator characters can distinguish between the 
two formats.


-Rob Ryan

Andrew Toolkit Consortium

p.s. It may actually be time to take this one step further and specify 
foreground and background, and shadow colors all in one preference...  (just 
an off the tip of the brain remark :-)



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>Is anyone aware of an effort to port ATK to SVR4/386 or something similar?
>Should the SCO port work as is?

Probably not.  For example:

1) SCO's pseudo-tty mechanism is probably different from SVR4's
   mechanism.

2) SCO uses COFF, so you'd need a COFF-based dynamic loader.

   SVR4 uses ELF, so you'd need an ELF-based dynamic loader.

   The good news is that SVR4 *already comes with such a loader*; it has
   the same "dlopen()" interface that SunOS 4.1[.x] has (actually, it's
   the other way around; AT&T devised the interface, SunOS 4.x supplied
   some of the underpinnings of the SVR4 implementation, and SunOS
   4.1[.x] also picked up the interface and put it atop its
   implementation).

   So if anybody out there is contemplating writing such a dynamic
   loader for ELF, they should STOP RIGHT NOW and just grab the SunOS
   4.1[.x] dynamic loading code for ATK - it uses the "dlopen()"
   interface.

   (At least half the reason I did the "dlopen()" interface was to make
   sure nobody decided to whip up their own code to read and relocate
   ELF images.)

The nice thing is that an SVR4/386 port of ATK would probably require
*only* new versions of those damn assembler-language stubs to be an
SVR4/<something else> port, and stubs already exist for 68K, SPARC,
MIPS, and some other architectures - they might only need some tweaking
for different assembler-language syntax and different ways of doing
SVR4-style position-independent code.  (And if ATK were put atop
something that didn't require those stubs, it'd be even better....)
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In article <1992Apr16.171859.4454@ornl.gov>, jnm@tdum.CTD.ORNL.GOV (Jamey Maze) writes:
|> I recently built ATK on SunOS will few problems, so I decided to do
|> the same on ULTRIX, but I'm having trouble making it to 1st base. When I
|> do make with any target, it complains about a syntax error in line 130,
|> with is where the first variable (AFSBASEDIR) gets redefined from
|> site.mcr. Can someone tell me what I've done wrong?
|> 
|> Here's my site.mcr:
|> 
|> 	AFSBASEDIR = /usr/afsws
|> 	XUTILDIR = /usr/local/X11R5/bin
|> 	XINCDIR = /usr/local/X11R5/include
|> 	XMKFONTDIR = /usr/local/X11R5/bin/mkfontdir
|> 	XLIBDIR = /usr/local/X11R5/lib
|> 	XFC = /usr/local/X11R5/bin/bdftopcf
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|> 


PMAX is picky about white space in its Makefiles.  Remove the tabs from your site.mcr,
and you should go further.

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    It is quite strange but it happened.  When I invoke ez or 
fad without running any window manager, I only get blank windows.  
When there is a window manager running, they work fine.  

   This problem started to happen when we upgrade our ATK recently.
The previous version does not have this problem.

   Do I need to use ez or fad without window manager?  Unfortunately,
yes.

   It is really a strange behavior!  Can anyone tell me what causes it
to happen?  How can I fix it? 

   Thanks!
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From: rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Richard Stallman)

Subject: Future free versions of Andrew?


The ATK Consortium announcement led some people to worry about whether there 
will be any further improvement in the free software that we now know from the 
X distribution tape. 

}
We are busily engaged in further improvements.  The imminent CD-rom release 
will have at least 700 files differing from the release that came out with 
X.V11R5.


\quotation{They suggested I should organize maintenance for the free version 
so that it remains a viable alternative.


But I see that you say you will be making releases of Andrew through X from 
time to time (which implies they would be free software).  Is this a firm 
promise?

}
This is a firm promise:


    As long as the Andrew Toolkit Consortium exists, we will continue to  make 
freely usable and distributable versions of ATK and AMS.


The Consortium will only exist if members support us.  To provide some 
membership incentive, members will get updates more frequent than the free 
distributions and the interval between free distributions will be at least a 
year (as it has been for our distributions through the X tape).  In addition 
to more frequent updates, full members of the Consortium get software support, 
the right to request new features, the right to demand that code they prepare 
be included in the distribution, and other benefits.  For full details, send 
me a request for our membership flyer. 


Should the Consortium cease to exist, it would be a valuable contribution for 
you, or someone else, to organize continued maintenance of a free ATK and I 
would be delighted to help in that effort as much as I could.


Please feel free to refer to me anyone with questions about ATK's future.


Fred Hansen

Director, Andrew Toolkit Consortium

412 421 5121

wjh+@cmu.edu


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Howdy,

I had a couple of questions about 5.0 (which probably will 
apply to atk 5.1).  My platform is SPARCstation IPC, SunOS 4.1.1.
This is my site.h:

#define AMS_DELIVERY_ENV        1
#define RUN_AMDS_ENV            1
#define WHITEPAGES_ENV          1
#define SNAP_ENV                1

#define MK_BASIC_UTILS          1
#define MK_AUTHORING            1
#define MK_AUX_UTILS            1
#define MK_AUX_INSETS           1
#define MK_EXAMPLES             1
#define CONTRIB_ENV             1


#define DEFAULT_LOCALDIR_ENV /usr/andrew
#undef LINKINSTALL_ENV
#undef RESOLVER_ENV


I have set up my white pages and it seems to authenticate locals without
problems.  The fuzzy name lookup works beautifully. We don't have AFS here
so I had to fake /afs/.CELLNAME/service/mailqs/q1...  Is there a way to make
switchmail to hand off undelivarable mail to /usr/lib/sendmail instead
of saving it in /afs/.CELLNAME/service/mailqs/q1... forever. 

As it stands now, I had to modify the call to VM_open which calls CheckDirInAFS
which then calls dirinAFS in overhead/mail/lib/vmail.c to return ON_AFS instead
of NOT_ON_AFS (line 118 of vmail.c).  That made queuemail/trymail/switchmail/
vicemail work - well sort of.  When I send mail via messages to an outside
destination, WP can't verify that (since we are not on the internet and
don't use resolver DNS (only yellow pages)) the host is valid and asks me if I
am sure, to which I click of course. then the email just sits in the 
/afs/.frv.gov/service/mailqs/q1 directory with the following message in one
of the SF files (in this case I was trying to send mail to my old school
account with the external email address of edvax@pyrite.som.cwru.edu):

#From |<m1eyr00+@frb.gov>|
#To |edvax@pyrite.som.cwru.edu (Temp failure validating destination domain)|
#Auth |6158;frb.gov|


I am running all my queuemail daemons with a -s option to run sendmail when
all else fails.  Also, I am not entirely clear on the -X and -O options.
How many queuemail daemons should run on my machine and with what options.
It seems that it doesn't even look in /usr/spool/ViceMsgQueue but puts
the messages in /afs/frb.gov/service/mailqs/q1 directly if it fails immediate
delivery.

To summarize, I would like /usr/lib/sendmail to take control of delivery
if queuemail/trymail/switchmail fail.  Or do I need the whole CMU
environment with AFS to do this properly. Also the WP.ins and AMDS manuals
describes a program called 'package'.  Where is it located? I coulnd't
find it in the release.


your help is greatly appreciated,

--ed

internet: m1eyr00@fed.frb.gov
bang: ...!uunet!fed!m1eyr00


ps: also, a local /etc/passwd entry authenticates to a user+ while a
YP (NIS) passwd entry authenticates to just 'user' .  How do I control
the plus sign being appended in messages?
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> Are the Snakes the only HP-PA machines running HP-UX 8.0?  If not, will
> the Snake binaries run on other HP-PA machines running 8.0?  (I'm
> assuming you require 8.0's dynamic linking.)

From Jean Gascon (gascaon@hpl.hp.com):

> The current Series 800 machines conforms to the PA-RISC 1.0 spec.
> whereas the Series 700 is PA-RISC 1.1.  PA-RISC 1.1 contains a few
> additional instructions, supports additional floating-point registers
> etc.  Binaries for the Series 800 run without problems on the Series
> 700.  Binaries compiled on the Series 700 may run on the Series 800 if
> certain  options where set at compile time.  By default, the Series 700
> generates code that supports all the options of the 700, for better
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 14-Apr-92 DECstation console
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> I found that one work-around is to change /usr/andrew/bin/runapp to run
> as setuid root.

Certainly not desirable...

A better solution is to set the mode on /dev/xcons so that anyone can
read from it (write access may also be necessary but I don't think so.) 
Note that console monitoring of /dev/console output assumes a single
invocation of the console program per machine.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Toolkit Consortium
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 14-Apr-92 Re: ATK Release
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> And, presumably, other SPARC-based machines running SunOS 4.x. 
> ("champion.auspex.com", as cited in the "Nntp-Posting-Host" header, is a
> SPARC-based machine running SunOS 4.x, but it ain't a Sun-4, or any kind
> of Sun - and it *can* run ATK.  No prizes for guessing what kind of
> machine it is.... :-))

> (I.e., using reasonably inclusive names for families of machines is a
> Good Thing, as in the three examples above.)

The reason we are being so specific about what machines our binaries
will run on is that we don't have any actual experience with similar
variants.  We do mention the possibility of running on variants in the
CD-ROM top-level README:

    Binaries are included for the following system types: 

        IBM RS/6000 (AIX 3.1)
        SUN 4c Sparcstation  (SunOS 4.1.1)
        DECstation 3100 PMAX  (Ultrix  4.2)
        Hewlett Packard 700 "Snake" (HPUX 8.05)

    While we have compiled the Andrew binaries on the above platforms,
    it is possible that they will execute properly on similar variants.
    For example, the HP700 binaries will probably run on the HP800.  We
    have not tested the binaries on this disc on any variants.

Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 14-Apr-92 Re: ATK Release
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> >(Hint: Join now; help ensure there will be further updates ;-)

> I would, if you'd allow individuals to join, but when I asked about it,
> you indicated there wouldn't be any provisions for that.  I'd might even
> be willing to some non-negligible amount, being a typical overpaid
> underworked Silly Valley UNIX weenie.... :-)


Can't Auspex fork over some cash instead of you?  I'd really like to see
you in the Consortium in some capacity.  
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Yours is an amazing story.  I'm not sure where to begin.


The queuemail daemons are supposed to take messages out of 
/afs/.CELLNAME/service/mailqs/q* and deliver mail by calling trymail or 
switchmail.  Their ``-s'' option is disfunctional.  Instead, you would have to 
get switchmail to drop mail to sendmail, and they should do that pretty 
normally.  Can you describe what problems switchmail is having with doing 
that?  (You can use the ``-d'' option to switchmail to get it to print 
debugging info, and I can probably help you reconstruct a command line to get 
it to try to deliver a piece of mail.)


You have basically two choices, overall:


(a) Turn off RUN_AMDS_ENV and don't try to run AMDS.  You can still have your 
local mail validated via WP with some AndrewSetup option, where you tell the 
system where you've put a WP that describes names in ThisDomain.  Mail 
delivery, local or remote, would then go through sendmail (via the 
OldSendmailProgram path).


(b) Get AMDS to work well without AFS (which is, I guess, what you're trying 
to do).  Presumably you're getting AMDS to create files in the ~userid/Mailbox 
directory.  (Yes, overhead/mail/lib/vmail.c shouldn't be requiring destination 
directories to be in AFS if AFS_ENV isn't set!)  You should also create a (at 
least one) ``slow queue'' directory /afs/frb.gov/service/mailqs/sq1 to hold 
messages for which initial delivery failed, and run a daemon to service that 
directory.


(WP doesn't verify whether remote hosts are valid; that's done by 
overhead/mail/lib/valhost.c, and you'll probably need the AndrewSetup option 
that says never to bother validating remote hosts.  This is named something 
like AMS_ValidateDestHosts, and you'd want to turn it off.)


I expect that switchmail is discovering that it can't validate remote host 
names like pyrite.som.cwru.edu, getting the same valhost.c result that you get 
when you have to confirm that a host exists.  In switchmail's case it expects 
that it would be pointless to tell sendmail about the given host, since the 
lookup that switchmail does is no more restrictive than that performed by 
sendmail.  (Thus, you have to configure the valhost.c lookup to be no more 
restrictive than the sendmail host name validation!)  Switchmail then hangs on 
to the mail, with the ``Temp failure validating destination domain'' 
annotation.


All machines that try to run AMDS would run the ANDREWDIR/etc/startmailsystem 
script to crank up the ``workstation'' portion.  This will start up a 
queuemail daemon servicing /usr/spool/ViceMsgQueue, and it will use the -X 
option to cause it to accept UDP-grams from processes on the local machine to 
cause them to deliver mail that has been queued in ~userid/.Outgoing . 
 (/usr/spool/ViceMsgQueue is a queue of last resort, designed to be on the 
local disk of a workstation when queues like /afs/CELLNAME/service/mailqs/* 
are in AFS, and are thus sometimes unavailable.)


The ``package'' program is generally shipped with AFS.  The idea is to 
configure the ``dataless'' components of a workstation by running the program, 
which does things like copying files from AFS to the local disk of the 
workstation.  A real ``dataless'' machine would have its local disk totally 
managed by package in cooperation with the AFS cache manager.  For example, 
its /vmunix would be maintained by package, and all files to be preserved by 
users' interactive work would reside on AFS.  (You can build a variation on 
this where some designated local directories also house the results of 
interactive work.)


Hope this answers your first round of questions.  Congratulations for getting 
as far as you did down the non-AFS AMDS path!  Let me know if I can help you 
with other pieces of it.


		Craig

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Date: 14 Apr 92 17:32:04 GMT
From: gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu  (Gary Keim)
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 14-Apr-92 Re: ATK Release
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> >-  Sun 4 Spell Checking:  When Andrew is compiled with optimization and
> >without debugging, ATK applications crash when the "spell" menu option
> >is selected

> I did not realize this is a software bug. So has anybody had any luck
> with it ?

The problem was with andrew/atk/extensions/spell.c:StartProcess():

    if ((pid = osi_vfork()) == 0) { /* In child */

        int numfds = getdtablesize();
        int fd;

        dup2(outpipe[READFD], 0);
        dup2(inpipe[WRITEFD], 1);
        dup2(1, 2); /* Should have more control over this. */

        /* Don't leave any open file descriptors for child. */
        for (fd = 3; fd < numfds; fd++)
            close(fd);

#if defined(SGI_4D_ENV)
	setpgrp();
#else
        setpgrp(0, getpid());
#endif
        execlp("/bin/csh", "csh", "-cf", command, (char *)NULL);
        exit(0);
    }

The exit(0) call was a return NULL in the previous version.  Even though
control should never get to this statement, with optimization enabled
this caused the core-dump.  

Why? Don't ask me.... I just track down these buggers.
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Date: 14 Apr 92 17:38:32 GMT
From: gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu  (Gary Keim)
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 14-Apr-92 DECstation console
redirection Bob_Dew@ALW.NIH.GOV (654)

> Apparently, console needs to be run with uid root in order to collect
> /dev/console output--but that prevents one from monitoring AFS
> userid-associated things, like mail, tokens, quota, etc.

Actually, /usr/andrew/bin/getstats should be setuid and owned by root:

% su root
$ chown root /usr/andrew/bin/getstats
$ chmod ugo=rxs /usr/andrew/bin/getstats
$ exit
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Date: 14 Apr 92 19:19:12 GMT
From: rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu  (Robert Andrew Ryan)
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 14-Apr-92 Re: DECstation
console redi.. Gary Keim@andrew.cmu.edu (477)

> Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 14-Apr-92 DECstation console
> redirection Bob_Dew@ALW.NIH.GOV (654)

> > Apparently, console needs to be run with uid root in order to collect
> > /dev/console output--but that prevents one from monitoring AFS
> > userid-associated things, like mail, tokens, quota, etc.

> Actually, /usr/andrew/bin/getstats should be setuid and owned by root:

Just to clarify, getstats doesn't have anything to do with monitoring
/dev/console messages, only disk and vm usage.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Toolkit Consortium
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Date: 14 Apr 92 19:26:03 GMT
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ucselx!bionet!raven.alaska.edu!acad2.alaska.edu!asrs@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
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Hello,

	Is their any Apple Macintosh (CMU) users reading this messages. My
older brother went to CMU. When I was vistiting I looked in the file servers on
the macintosh computers. I saw some software which I would like to have (public
domain) but when I was at CMU I didn't have time to pick it up.

	Please contact me about working out arangement, thanks.

Robert Sprick
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I'm trying to help a friend get his Sparc2 running Andrew.

He's working in the OpenWindows environment, and when he opens Andrew's
message window, his cursor suddenly turns into a gigantic horse. Other
things are similarly messed up, but this dramatic behavior, I hope, will
set off a bell in someone's head. 

X11R5, running the rev of Andrew that comes with R4.  I don't think this
is a problem.  If he starts Andrew under a "not having started
OpenWindows" situation everything is fine. 

Anyone out there be able to help?

Thanks.

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Hi,

I noticed that Andrew could be build on i386_mach. 

If found i386_mach on a ftp-site, but the README says that it is a bare
kernel with no file system. Is there an i386_mach available that is
ready to run andrew (with file system + X11) ?

What are the system requirements for i386_mach?
(disk space, memory, graphics-card)

Thanks,

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The galloping horse is the classic symptom of your font path not
including the Openwindows fonts for andrew.   Make sure you do a "xset
+fp /usr/andrew/xnewsfonts,/usr/andrew/X11fonts" before running any
andrew applications.  If the xnewsfonts directory is not there (or
another one with a similar name, since the name has changed in the last
few releases), you need to rebuild andrew (actually only part of it)
with OPENWINDOWS_ENV defined in your site.h file.

Bill Schell
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Date: 22 Apr 92 15:05:32 GMT
From: eru.mt.luth.se!lunic!sunic!corax.udac.uu.se!Haag!uli@bloom-beacon.mit.edu  (Ulf Lindback)
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Hi, is there someone out there who's running the Andrew System on 
SPARCstations with an environment similar to ours who could mail me
their AndrewSetup file.

Our environment is:

ANDREW DIST: Version 5.0.0
OS: SUNOS 4.1.1
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I came in this AM and started up Andrew Messages -- it delivered  18
messages to me on start up, told me I was out of disk space and
displayed those 18 messages, repeated 3 times over, in the reader. I
then cleaned out a bunch of old mail, purged and tried again; and it
told me:
	1 message in ~/mailbox were deliveries in progress; 
	try again
I have tried again (and again, and again...) to no avail -- any idea
what to do next?  (yes, I have restarted my x connection -- no change)
	--Susan

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attr:['color' '#B03000']}
\define{f

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point 6]
attr:['color' '#A02000']}
\define{g

attr:['color' '#CD8500']}
The "textview-insert-file" proc, from looking at the code...
\footnote{\
\begindata{fnote,538803464}
\textdsversion{12}
\define{italic
menu:[Font~1,Italic~11]
attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]}
\define{keyword
}
\define{function
}
\define{bold
menu:[Font~1,Bold~10]
attr:[FontFace Bold Int Set]}
\define{comment
}
 \italic{(from atk/text/txtvcmod.c)}

\keyword{void} \function{textview_InsertFile}(self)

\keyword{struct} textview *self;

\{

...

...

    \bold{initialPos} = pos = textview_GetDotPosition(self);


    textview_PrepareInsertion(self, FALSE);

    text_InsertFile(Text(self), inputFile,filename, pos);

    textview_FinishInsertion(self);


    fclose(inputFile);


    textview_SetDot\bold{Position}(self,\bold{initialPos});

    textview_SetDot\bold{Length}(self, \bold{pos - initialPos});

\comment{/*  im_SetLastCmd(textview_GetIM(self), lcYank); */}

    text_NotifyObservers(Text(self), observable_OBJECTCHANGED);

\}

\enddata{fnote,538803464}
\view{fnotev,538803464,5,0,0}}

...would seem to indicate that it was designed to SELECT (i.e. highlight, wrap
the dot around) the file that was inserted.


Well, it doesn't :-(


\italic{Almost} a fix:
\footnote{\
\begindata{fnote,539460616}
\textdsversion{12}
\define{italic
menu:[Font~1,Italic~11]
attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]}
\define{keyword
}
\define{function
}
\define{bold
menu:[Font~1,Bold~10]
attr:[FontFace Bold Int Set]}
\define{comment
}
 \italic{(add the three boldfaced lines below, to atk/text/txtvcmod.c)}

\keyword{void} \function{textview_InsertFile}(self)

\keyword{struct} textview *self;

\{

...

...

    initialPos = pos = textview_GetDotPosition(self);

\bold{    textview_SetDotPosition(self,pos+1); \comment{/*RSKadd*/}

}
    textview_PrepareInsertion(self, FALSE);

    text_InsertFile(Text(self), inputFile,filename, pos);

    textview_FinishInsertion(self);


    fclose(inputFile);


\bold{    pos= textview_GetDotPosition(self)-1; \comment{/*RSKadd*/}

}    textview_SetDotPosition(self,initialPos);

    textview_SetDotLength(self, pos - initialPos);

\comment{/*  im_SetLastCmd(textview_GetIM(self), lcYank); */}

    text_NotifyObservers(Text(self), observable_OBJECTCHANGED);

\}


\bold{/* NOTE: this fix does not work at the END of a file-- rather than
trying to kludge around it, I'm hoping someone at CMU knows of a better way to
make the selected region work for inserted files... --RSK*/}

\enddata{fnote,539460616}
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I rebuilt \magenta{\cyan{trymail}} and \cyan{\green{\cyan{switchmail}}} using 
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\begindata{text,539210888}
\textdsversion{12}
\template{messages}
\define{center

attr:[Justification Centered Point 0]}
\define{footnote

attr:[Flags OverBar Int Set]
attr:[FontSize PreviousFontSize Point -2]}
\define{h

attr:[FontFamily rom Int 0]
attr:[FontSize ConstantFontSize Point 6]}
\define{a

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
attr:['color' '#F0A000']}
\define{b

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
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\define{c

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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from advisor.atk: 22-Apr-92 textview-insert-file
not se.. Robert Kemmetmueller (265+2)}


\quotation{\italic{Almost} a fix: \smaller{[bogus fix deleted]}

}
Thanks to Paul Johnsen
\footnote{\
\begindata{fnote,539629832}
\textdsversion{12}
here at IBM\
\enddata{fnote,539629832}
\view{fnotev,539629832,43,0,0}}.  Here's how it \italic{ought} to be fixed:

\footnote{\
\begindata{fnote,539051016}
\textdsversion{12}
\define{italic
menu:[Font~1,Italic~11]
attr:[FontFace Italic Int Set]}
\define{bold
menu:[Font~1,Bold~10]
attr:[FontFace Bold Int Set]}
\italic{(in atk/text/txtvcmod.c)  Just add 'pos+=', shown boldfaced below.
 (no, ATK 5.1 does NOT have this fixed already)}

void textview_InsertFile(self)

struct textview *self;

\{

...

...

    initialPos = pos = textview_GetDotPosition(self);


    textview_PrepareInsertion(self, FALSE);

    \bold{pos+= }text_InsertFile(Text(self), inputFile,filename, pos);
\bold{/*added 'pos+=' --RSK*/}

    textview_FinishInsertion(self);


    fclose(inputFile);


    textview_SetDotPosition(self,initialPos);

    textview_SetDotLength(self, pos - initialPos);

/*  im_SetLastCmd(textview_GetIM(self), lcYank); */

    text_NotifyObservers(Text(self), observable_OBJECTCHANGED);

\}

\enddata{fnote,539051016}
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For those of us that don't have AMS this message was not real informative...

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Excerpts from advisor.atk: 22-Apr-92 textview-insert-filenot se.. Robert
Kemmetmueller (265+2)

> Almost a fix: [bogus fix deleted]

Thanks to Paul Johnsen[An Andrew ToolKit view (a footnote) was included
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attr:[Justification Centered Point 0]}
\define{h

attr:[FontFamily rom Int 0]
attr:[FontSize ConstantFontSize Point 6]}
\define{a

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
attr:['color' '#F0A000']}
\define{b

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
attr:['color' '#E08000']}
\define{c

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
attr:['color' '#D06000']}
\define{d

attr:[Script PreviousScriptMovement Point -1]
attr:['color' '#C05000']}
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from ext.misc.info-andrew: 27-Apr-92 This is not
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\quotation{For those of us that don't have AMS this message was not real
informative...

}
Oops!  My apologies to the AMS-less folks.  Here's the fix in plain ol' text:


(in atk/text/txtvcmod.c)  Just add 'pos+=', shown below on `|' line.

--------------------------------------------

void textview_InsertFile(self)

struct textview *self;

\{

...

...

    initialPos = pos = textview_GetDotPosition(self);


    textview_PrepareInsertion(self, FALSE);

|    pos+= text_InsertFile(Text(self), inputFile,filename, pos); /*added
'pos+=' --RSK*/

    textview_FinishInsertion(self);


    fclose(inputFile);


    textview_SetDotPosition(self,initialPos);

    textview_SetDotLength(self, pos - initialPos);

/*  im_SetLastCmd(textview_GetIM(self), lcYank); */

    text_NotifyObservers(Text(self), observable_OBJECTCHANGED);

\}

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Butler was done by Dave Nichols:


David Nichols		I am a graduate of CS.

Work:			Xerox PARC, 415 494-4452

Home:			881 Richardson Ct. Palo Alto, CA  94303, 415 424-0407

Mail Address:		nichols.parc@xerox.com\
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\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 27-Apr-92 Some 
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\quotation{On my xterminal (Labtam MT200) I have DISPLAY set to xt10:0.0

}\quotation{and when I start help I get :-

}
\quotation{Starting ez (Version 7.0, ATK 5.0.0); please wait...

}\quotation{Could not open the display; this program will not run without a 
window system.

}
This is a bug in Andrew's use of the resolver on the Sparc, caused by multiple 
copies of the resolver code getting into runapp.  Setting your DISPLAY to the 
IP dot-notation works.


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 27-Apr-92 Some 
Problems with Andrew o.. Bill Hart@ml.csiro.au (953)}


\quotation{Could not find host 192.67.12.29 in help(xim). Error messages may 
not go to console.

}
This is a warning you can safely ignore- it occurs when you set your DISPLAY 
to the IP dot-notation form.


\excerptedcaption{Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 27-Apr-92 Some 
Problems with Andrew o.. Bill Hart@ml.csiro.au (953)}


\quotation{<warning:help>X error BadValue (integer parameter out of range for 
operation) (2) major code 51 minor code 0 ignored

}\quotation{xfontdesc_CvtCharToGraphic: 0 width character 16 in 1401F0

}

Do you first have to convert the Andrew fonts to a format specific to your 
Xterminal?  I just started using an Xterminal from home and first had to 
convert the fonts and then make them available to the Xtermainal Xserver.

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Did one of you remake the rgb.\{dir,pag\} files in:


/afs/andrew.cmu.edu/itc/rs_aix31/destdir/campus/local/depot/X.V11R5/lib/X11


yesterday?

================

-rw-r--r--   1 gk5g     system      4096 Apr 27 18:50 rgb.dir

-rw-r--r--   1 gk5g     system     29696 Apr 27 18:50 rgb.pag

-rw-r--r--   1 gk5g     system     16992 Aug 12 1991  rgb.txt

================

(I've learned not to trust ownership as authenticity of deed)


I've just run into two problems this morning - one with a debugger (xcdb) not 
being able to find \bold{SlateBlue} - and one with a game (spider) not being 
able to find \bold{navyblue}  - the latter worked yesterday, but now uses 
white instead (annoyance) - the former worked last week, and now will not run 
at all (potentially critical)


Please see if you can fix this - you can use ~ghoti/bin/spider (6000's) as a 
test case (at least for part of the problem) if you want.


Thanks much,


--fish

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Apparently killing off my X windows and restarting them fresh fixes the 
problem - you might keep this in mind in case you modify those files again, so 
that you can post and warn folks that they may have to restart X in order to 
be able to get the colors they are used to getting.


--fish

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Date: 27 Apr 92 04:55:12 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!newsroom.utas.edu.au!ml.csiro.au!ocean!hart@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu  (Bill Hart)
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Hi,
	I've just compiled Andrew (straight of the X11R5 contrib software) on a
SS2 running SunOS 4.1.1. It seems to work fine on a console, but not so well on
an xterminal. On my xterminal (Labtam MT200) I have DISPLAY set to xt10:0.0
and when I start help I get :-

Starting ez (Version 7.0, ATK 5.0.0); please wait...
Could not open the display; this program will not run without a window system.

Then I set DISPLAY to the x terminal's IP number and I get :-

Starting help (Version 7.2, ATK 5.0.0); please wait...
Could not find host 192.67.12.29 in help(xim). Error messages may not go to console.
<warning:help>X error BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) (2) major code 51 minor code 0 ignored
xfontdesc_CvtCharToGraphic: 0 width character 16 in 1401F0

Probably something simple, but I've spend quite a while searching through the
docs.

Thanks for any tips

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[ various people describe core dumps using Sun SS[12] ]

I chased the core dump just a little further and found that xgraphic.c
passes null pointers to some Xlib routines.  OpenWindows 3.0's excuse
for an Xlib dumps core.  Xsun from the X11R5 distribution seems to work
OK.  Maybe somebody who knows more about X than I do can contribute a
patch to xgraphic.c or the correct text for a bug report to Sun :)

Regards,
Ed Mooring (mooring@tymix.tymnet.com 408-922-7504)
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After compiling Andrew on a SS2 running SunOS 4.1.1 and OpenWindows 3.0, I've 
tried to run several programs.  They all display an intro message and a 
window pops up with some text and then it disappears with no error messages.
A core file is all that's left behind.

What I am I doing wrong?



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Date: 29 Apr 92 16:03:12 GMT
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I have started playing with Andrew 5.0.0 under both Mach 2.5 and 3.0
on a 386 machine, using X11R4. The cursors on all programs start
out okay (simple arrow), and occassionally work after that, but
are usually replaced by letters of the alphabet, which vary
according to what the user is doing, just as the cursor is supposed
to, but never change into real cursor graphics. Has anyone else
experienced this?

 -Ken Mitchum (KY3B)
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Date: 30 Apr 92 16:19:41 GMT
From: charon.amdahl.com!amdahl!tetons!targhee!gnd@uunet.uu.net  (Greg Darnell)
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In article <1992Apr28.170512.7280@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera) writes:
>  
> After compiling Andrew on a SS2 running SunOS 4.1.1 and OpenWindows 3.0, I've 
> tried to run several programs.  They all display an intro message and a 
> window pops up with some text and then it disappears with no error messages.
> A core file is all that's left behind.
>  
I had a very similar problem on a SS1+, SunOS 4.1.1 without OpenWin.
Running ez would bring up the editor with the file displayed, then as
soon as the cursor appeared the window died.  dbx shows:

program terminated by signal SEGV (no mapping at the fault address)
(dbx) where
xgraphic_SetupFillGC() at 0x8d80c
xgraphic__FillRectSize() at 0x8d8a8
sbuttonv__DrawBorder() at 0x524d0
draw_bar() at 0x5ed54
draw_everything() at 0x5f120
scroll__FullUpdate() at 0x5fe68
DoFullUpdate() at 0x49534
lpair__FullUpdate() at 0x49994
frame__FullUpdate() at 0xe974
xim__HandleRedraw() at 0x81068
HandleExposure() at 0x81c24
xim__RedrawWindow() at 0x83514
im__RedrawChangedWindows() at 0xaa194
im__Interact() at 0xaac94
im__KeyboardProcessor() at 0xab214
ezapp__Run() at 0xd154
main() at 0x2b1c

Seeing the failing xgraphic call reminded me of some other problems I
have seen running X on grayscale terminals, so I went to a color 
terminal and ez works fine.  I can't find anything in the installation
documents about configuration for different X servers, such as mono,
4-bit gray, or color, so it appears that it just can't handle grayscale.

Any ideas?
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 30-Apr-92 Can Andrew handle
grayscale.. Greg Darnell@idaho.amdah (1712)

> I can't find anything in the installation documents about configuration
> for different X servers, such as mono,
> 4-bit gray, or color, so it appears that it just can't handle grayscale.

Which version of ATK are you using?  The initial support for greyscale
and static gray displays with >1 bits/pixel was buggy.  The latest code
should be better, but it still has problems on some displays.  (e.g.
NeXT 2-bit static-grey, and TrueColor).

The currently released version is 5.0.  There have been some patches
posted here by Bill Janssen which address some problems with different
displays too.  I can mail you those if you'd like.

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Toolkit Consortium
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Date: 27 Apr 92 04:55:12 GMT
From: munnari.oz.au!newsroom.utas.edu.au!ml.csiro.au!ocean!hart@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu  (Bill Hart)
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Hi,
	I've just compiled Andrew (straight of the X11R5 contrib software) on a
SS2 running SunOS 4.1.1. It seems to work fine on a console, but not so well on
an xterminal. On my xterminal (Labtam MT200) I have DISPLAY set to xt10:0.0
and when I start help I get :-

Starting ez (Version 7.0, ATK 5.0.0); please wait...
Could not open the display; this program will not run without a window system.

Then I set DISPLAY to the x terminal's IP number and I get :-

Starting help (Version 7.2, ATK 5.0.0); please wait...
Could not find host 192.67.12.29 in help(xim). Error messages may not go to console.
<warning:help>X error BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) (2) major code 51 minor code 0 ignored
xfontdesc_CvtCharToGraphic: 0 width character 16 in 1401F0

Probably something simple, but I've spend quite a while searching through the
docs.

Thanks for any tips

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Date: 27 Apr 92 17:20:43 GMT
From: rr2b+@andrew.cmu.edu  (Robert Andrew Ryan)
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Subject: Re: Some Problems with Andrew on an Xterminal
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 27-Apr-92 Some Problems with
Andrew o.. Bill Hart@ml.csiro.au (953)

> Starting ez (Version 7.0, ATK 5.0.0); please wait...
> Could not open the display; this program will not run without a window system.

Other X apps work alright?  I can't think of any reason ATK  would die
in this way if other apps work...

Excerpts from netnews.comp.soft-sys.andrew: 27-Apr-92 Some Problems with
Andrew o.. Bill Hart@ml.csiro.au (953)

> Then I set DISPLAY to the x terminal's IP number and I get :-

> Starting help (Version 7.2, ATK 5.0.0); please wait...
> Could not find host 192.67.12.29 in help(xim). Error messages may not go
> to console.
> <warning:help>X error BadValue (integer parameter out of range for
> operation) (2) major code 51 minor code 0 ignored
> xfontdesc_CvtCharToGraphic: 0 width character 16 in 1401F0

The first message is not important, it just means errors will be
reported to stderr instead of being sent to the console program.  (ATK
assumes the console program will be running on the machine at the IP
address of the display.)

The second error is due to ATK trying to add to the fontpath, but the X
terminal doesn't have access to the ATK font directory
($ANDREWDIR/X11fonts).

The last is probably related to the second in that the correct fonts
were not found.  Have you installed the Andrew fonts for the X terminal?

-Rob Ryan
Andrew Toolkit Consortium
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After compiling Andrew on a SS2 running SunOS 4.1.1 and OpenWindows 3.0, I've 
tried to run several programs.  They all display an intro message and a 
window pops up with some text and then it disappears with no error messages.
A core file is all that's left behind.

What I am I doing wrong?



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Date: 29 Apr 92 16:03:12 GMT
From: pitt!cs.pitt.edu@gatech.edu  (Ken Mitchum)
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I have started playing with Andrew 5.0.0 under both Mach 2.5 and 3.0
on a 386 machine, using X11R4. The cursors on all programs start
out okay (simple arrow), and occassionally work after that, but
are usually replaced by letters of the alphabet, which vary
according to what the user is doing, just as the cursor is supposed
to, but never change into real cursor graphics. Has anyone else
experienced this?

 -Ken Mitchum (KY3B)
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Date: 30 Apr 92 16:19:41 GMT
From: charon.amdahl.com!amdahl!tetons!targhee!gnd@uunet.uu.net  (Greg Darnell)
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In article <1992Apr28.170512.7280@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera) writes:
>  
> After compiling Andrew on a SS2 running SunOS 4.1.1 and OpenWindows 3.0, I've 
> tried to run several programs.  They all display an intro message and a 
> window pops up with some text and then it disappears with no error messages.
> A core file is all that's left behind.
>  
I had a very similar problem on a SS1+, SunOS 4.1.1 without OpenWin.
Running ez would bring up the editor with the file displayed, then as
soon as the cursor appeared the window died.  dbx shows:

program terminated by signal SEGV (no mapping at the fault address)
(dbx) where
xgraphic_SetupFillGC() at 0x8d80c
xgraphic__FillRectSize() at 0x8d8a8
sbuttonv__DrawBorder() at 0x524d0
draw_bar() at 0x5ed54
draw_everything() at 0x5f120
scroll__FullUpdate() at 0x5fe68
DoFullUpdate() at 0x49534
lpair__FullUpdate() at 0x49994
frame__FullUpdate() at 0xe974
xim__HandleRedraw() at 0x81068
HandleExposure() at 0x81c24
xim__RedrawWindow() at 0x83514
im__RedrawChangedWindows() at 0xaa194
im__Interact() at 0xaac94
im__KeyboardProcessor() at 0xab214
ezapp__Run() at 0xd154
main() at 0x2b1c

Seeing the failing xgraphic call reminded me of some other problems I
have seen running X on grayscale terminals, so I went to a color 
terminal and ez works fine.  I can't find anything in the installation
documents about configuration for different X servers, such as mono,
4-bit gray, or color, so it appears that it just can't handle grayscale.

Any ideas?
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[ various people describe core dumps using Sun SS[12] ]

I chased the core dump just a little further and found that xgraphic.c
passes null pointers to some Xlib routines.  OpenWindows 3.0's excuse
for an Xlib dumps core.  Xsun from the X11R5 distribution seems to work
OK.  Maybe somebody who knows more about X than I do can contribute a
patch to xgraphic.c or the correct text for a bug report to Sun :)

Regards,
Ed Mooring (mooring@tymix.tymnet.com 408-922-7504)
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