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I try to install Andrew on Sparc 1 running Sun OS 4.1 without AFS. When
running `messages' and `amsdemo', I got the message 
	Starting messages (Version 7.14, ATK 14.2); please wait... 	Illegal
instruction 
Does one know how to fix it? Thank you in advance. 
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eley.EDU  (Rick McMullen) Organization: IU Center for Innovative
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I would like to create equations with varibles of more than one letter,
such as "cell".  Eq seems to only allow single letter variables,
resulting in C output with "cell" rendered as "c*e*l*l", or the number
"10" as "1*0" (very annoying).  Is there a way to define variables as
special symbols while eq is running? 
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Subject: Re: AMDS: .mspath default mappings In-Reply-To:
<cbyYQz20ts5J4JfYl2@alw.nih.gov> References:
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These are all things you can set in the AndrewSetup file.  For example,
our AndrewSetup file includes the following lines: 
LocalBboardRoot:  /fs/bambam/usr3/andrew-bb/.MESSAGES DefaultMSPath:
$MAIL:$LOCAL 
This redefines $local and makes $external and $official irrelevant. Type
"help AndreSetup" for more details.  -- Nathaniel Return-path:
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Is there any easy way to get vui to recognize mail aliases?
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From: oldam@math.liu.se (Olof Damberg) Message-Id:
<9104071838.AA13819@math.liu.se> To: info-andrew@andrew.cmu.edu Subject:
AMDS in an non-AFS environment ? 
I am considering setting up AMDS here at our site, in order to be able
to handle mail, bboards, netnews etc. in a consistent fashion. 
However, after having consulted the available documents in the Andrew
distribution, and after having watched the traffic in the info-andrew
newsgroup for quite a while, I have realized that this is not an easy
task. 
The huge number of parameters which need to be set to get the delivery
system up and running is a discouraging factor. I also find that if you
are in an non-AFS environment, then the installation procedure is not as
well defined as in an AFS environment. Furthermore, we do not have AFS
specific programs such as 'mpp' and 'package', which are needed (?) to
build and maintain the delivery system. 
The AMDS installation doc 'AMDS.ins' says that AMDS will also work in an
non-AFS environment, so my question is: Is it possible to run AMDS in an
NFS environment ? (I do not expect it to be at all trivial, but I hope
it is manageable.) 
If there are sites out there running AMDS (perhaps with bboards and
netnews etc.) in an NFS environment, I would be very grateful if they
could share their experiences with me. Was it worth the trouble ? (I
would surely appreciate anything from the smallest hint to copies of
setup files, scripts etc. with the parameters used at your site.) 
Many thanks! ----- Olof Damberg				| email: oldam@math.liu.se Dept of
Math, Linkoping University	| phone: +46 13 281473 S-581 83  Linkoping,
SWEDEN		| fax:   +46 13 100746 
Some site-info: A net of Sun4's (2 servers and ~40 diskless clients)
running SUNOS 4.0.3 (soon 4.1.1) and NFS. ATK patchlevel 9. X11R4
patchlevel 18. 
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VUI using alias In-Reply-To: <3757@meaddata.meaddata.com> References:
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All the AMS interfaces should validate with the /usr/lib/aliases file,
although they won't do any header-rewriting based on that file.  See the
"AMS_AliasesValidation" documentaton in the AndrewSetup help file for
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Subject: Rosenberg, et al Paper Date: Mon, 08 Apr 91 13:44:27 EDT From:
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I saw a reference to a paper by Rosenberg, et al, called "Translating
Among Processable Multi-Media Document Formats Using ODA".  If someone
could send me a copy, e-mail or snail, it would be greatly appreciated
or tell me where to get a copy. 
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14:52:26 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
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Well, you've found the right place.  In particular, there's the case
that starts with 
	case AMS_REPLY_FORWARD: 	case AMS_REPLY_FORWARD_FMT: 
which is where the action really begins.  Unfortunately, the headers are
handled differently for the two cases, so you'll need to handle both.
(The difference is whether the forwarded message was already in Andrew
format, or not.  In one case, the work is done by EmitBE2Prefix... while
in the other case the headers aren't treated any differently from the
body.) 
The good news is that, since you are indeed no longer in ATK-land, the
code you need to read preferences is really quite simple.  Just use
getprofile, as in 
char *s = getprofile("fwdheaders"); 
(Note that you don't really want "messages.FwdHeaders" because you want
preferences like *.fwdheaders to affect cui, vui, etc.) 
Since that was your only specific question, I'll stop here, except to
say that I don't think this should be too difficult, but won't be
totally trivial either since the headers are currently being just "block
copied" into the forwarded message.  Good luck.  -- Nathaniel
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16:24:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Cattey <wdc@ATHENA.MIT.EDU> To:
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I was looking into solving the following problem. 
An ez user starts up a print job but has insufficient swap space. The
print job silently dies. The user waits forever. 
I was going to add code to handle SIGCHLD, but I see there is already
extensive code that does just what I was going to write in the guise of
AddZombieHandler. 
Do you know where this code is used, so I can see an example? 
Do you see any problems with using this inside print? 
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documentation Message-Id: <1991Apr10.142750.3762@nlm.nih.gov> Sender:
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	Does anyone know where I can find user documentation for 	AMS?  Is
there any that comes with it?  I stress the word USER 	documentation. 
Stuff that will show how one goes about 	using the special features (and
even the simple features) 	of the "messages" program. 
	We have just brought AMS up here at NIH.  I have looked through 	the
demo folder but there is not much info on how to actually 	use the
mailing system (ie including images, spreadsheets, 	animations, etc in
mail messages). 
			Rob, 			aka "AMS: A Male Specimen" X-Andrew-Authenticated-As:
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	Sorry.  my Reply-To field was screwed up the first time. 
[	Does anyone know where I can find user documentation for 	AMS?  Is
there any that comes with it?  I stress the word USER 	documentation. 
Stuff that will show how one goes about 	using the special features (and
even the simple features) 	of the "messages" program. 
	We have just brought AMS up here at NIH.  I have looked through 	the
demo folder but there is not much info on how to actually 	use the
mailing system (ie including images, spreadsheets, 	animations, etc in
mail messages). 
			Rob, 			aka "AMS: A Male Specimen" ] 			e-mail: rmalick@alw.nih.gov
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13:46:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Nathaniel Borenstein
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Subject: Re: Want messages.FwdHeaders preference Cc:
Craig_Everhart@transarc.com, Adam Stoller <ghoti+@andrew.cmu.edu>
In-Reply-To: <4c0mQYr0BwwOQE=Yp6@transarc.com> References:
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	<Ec0ZkQC00Vtq8Bb1NI@andrew.cmu.edu>, 	<4c0mQYr0BwwOQE=Yp6@transarc.com> 
I think that in this case Adam was right, which is not surprising, and
Craig was wrong, which is considerably more unusual.  I think that if
the "refreshprofile" routine (or something like that) ever gets called,
the storage does indeed get reclaimed.  Refreshprofile gets called by
"setprofilestring" which is called, at least, by the "Set Options" code
in Messages.  (Craig probably missed this because setprof.c and
profile.c are separate files, and he was probably looking only at the
latter.)  
So, the moral is, if you want to keep it around, it might indeed be
prudent to make a copy of anything returned by getprofile.  This is what
the messageserver typically does -- see ams/libs/ms/init.c for examples.
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have questions) Date: 13 Apr 91 09:46:58 GMT From:
oscar.tn.cornell.edu!grossman@THEORY.TN.CORNELL.EDU Organization: IBM
Supercomputing Technology Center Subject: AMDS post office machine
Message-Id: <1991Apr13.094658.15527@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> Sender:
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I've named my cell theory.cornell.edu, but I'm unable to get a machine
named "theory.cornell.edu" right now for various political reasons. 
Will amds will work properly if I have the post office machine aliased
to some other machine? Thus, if I have a machine "elmo.tn.cornell.edu",
will an MX record for theory.cornell.edu pointing at elmo.tn.cornell.edu
work?  At least enough to bring it all up, test, demo, and convince
these people to give me the right name? 
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Did anybody compile andrew for SCO unix ? 
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<info-andrew+@andrew.cmu.edu> Subject: Numeric keypads and Andrew Cc:
macdonal@parc.xerox.com 
I can't seem to get the number keys on a Sun Type-4 keyboard to respond
reasonably in Andrew (ez or misc ADEW widgets). Unshifted the give
Escape sequences - that's reasonable. With CapsLock or NumLock on, no
keys seem to be emitted at all - weird. Shift-number key returns the
proper key value - unreasonable. All the other X applications I run seem
to comprhend this keypad just fine. 
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Note that if one invokes a "filling" operation with a NULL Tile
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I use messages at work, but when I dial in from home, of course, I have
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Hi, 
	I am trying to build the Andrew Distribution distributed with X11R4. 
I've installed patch.001-patch.009 and vui.patch from the
"X/contrib-fixes/andrew" directory on export.lcs.  I seem to be missing
some files.  A "make World" bombs here : 
building (dependInstall)
(/fsucc/sun4/X11R4/contrib/toolkits/andrew/atk/layout)
../.././config/depend.csh /usr/bin/X11/makedepend /usr/andrew
/usr/andrew /usr/include/X11 "cc" /usr/andrew/bin/class "-I.  
-I/usr/andrew/include/atk -I/usr/andrew/include -I/usr/include/X11" 
Andrew class preprocessor exiting abnormally!   processing file:
filler.ch   message: can not open the file cel.ch   exit code = 3. 

Andrew class preprocessor exiting abnormally!   processing file:
fillerv.ch   message: can not open the file celv.ch   exit code = 3. 
Later on, it can't find filler.eh, filler.ih, fillerv.eh, layout.eh,
cel.ih, layoutv.eh.  They don't appear to be in the atk/layout
directory, or in any other andrew directory. 
Can somebody either send me these files or tell me what's wrong?  I'd
appreciate it.. 
PS : Please email me; I'm not on the info-andrew mailing list yet (and
don't know if this is crossposted to a USENET newsgroup, like
comp.soft-sys.andrew) 
-- Jeff Bauer				bauer@loligo.cc.fsu.edu FSU Computing Center Systems
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Subject: Sun-4 Numeric keypads and Andrew Cc: macdonal@parc.xerox.com 
I can't seem to get the number keys on a Sun Type-4 keyboard to respond
reasonably in Andrew (ez or misc ADEW widgets). Unshifted the give
Escape sequences - that's reasonable. With CapsLock or NumLock on, no
keys seem to be emitted at all - weird. Shift-number key returns the
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Sorry to use the Andrew list for something not directly related but I am
tring to track down all sources of discussion of ODA.  Nothing has been
coming into this site concerning ODA for so long I had almost forgotten
it existed. 
Can anyone give me any recent addresses for ODA discussions? 
Thanks 
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>I think you hit the nail.  Basically, whatever you can do with your
>favorite editor..... 
Yeah, but how do I get the headers and body *into* the editor? 



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Try ietf-oda@cs.ucl.ac.uk. 
Ruth Lang 

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Hi, 	Sorry to keep bugging you with ATK build problems, but can you help
me with this one?  I enabled "WM_ENV" to build the window manager and
the build process blows up in atk/basics/wm.  It can't find file
"wmclient.h", which a "find" doesn't find anywhere in the andrew source
tree... 
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Yi%=%H?|1mR`pc0qrR!<y: Subject: Adding a Header Date: Fri, 19 Apr 91
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I would like to arrange for all my outgoing mail to include special
header information (the X-Face: lines in this message, for the obvious
example). Is there a preference or file that I can set, analogous to
MH's `components' file, to accomplish this? 
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Excerpts from mail: 22-Apr-91 Re: Adding a Header Adam
Stoller@andrew.cmu. (878+1) 

> addmenu sendmessage-compound-operation "Send With Face~75" sendmessage
> sendmessage inherit "sendmessage-add-header X-Face: >
<path-to-face?>;sendmessage-send-message" 
Unfortunately, `X-Face' data is full of intersting characters like
semicolons that are significant in .atkinit-ish files.  Even when I
insert the data into a header line `by hand' (i.e. using the insert-file
menu option), Andrew scrambles my face--a blow to my vanity--by turning
a pair of `@' characters with a single `@' character. 
Grumph. 
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While Anthony's at it, I might as well add my two cents worth...:) 
Flush-right formatted regions also get printed out on a new line when
both flush-left text and flush-right text are placed on the same line in
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How can I use Andrew under OpenWindows i.e. what can I do to use the
"right" fonts. 

Any suggestions are welcome 

Manfred Kohl 
Joint Research Center of the European COmmunities 21020 Ispra Italy 

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nsb@THUMPER.BELLCORE.COM (Nathaniel Borenstein) writes: > Yup, sounds
like someone might want to add code to add the X-Face line >
automatically at a level lower than the ATK stuff.  The "right" place to
> add it, in my opinion, would be ams/libs/ms/submsg.c.  It should be >
pretty easy to fix:  In MS_SubmitMessage, after the message is parsed >
(with ParseMessageFromRawBody), you can use AddHeader to add whatever >
you want.  For example, if you were hardwiring your face in the code >
(not a good idea): 
> AddHeader(Msg, "X-Face: lkjsfdlkjsfdlkjsdlkjsflk"); 
> So all you'd really need is some code that gets the headers out of a >
configuration file of some sort and adds them on in this manner.  You >
can add multiple headers with a single call (as long as the headers are
> separated by a single newline) so you could just use the contents of a
> file (~/.addheaders ?) in a single AddHeader call, but it might be
smart > to make sure that the .addheaders file doesn't contain two
consecutive > newlines, which would mess things up. 
This is the wrong way to do it: as the huge numbers of multiple
signatures posted to usenet shows, silently adding junk to outgoing
messages just confuses people, even if they specifically want it to be
added.  It's obviously also less flexible, since you don't have the
ability to delete it / modify while composing the message. 
Just *fix* the current code not to fuck with headers it doesn't know about. 
Having headers automatically inserted from a file-- into the editable
composition buffer-- *is* a good idea in my opinion (batmail does it
with the file "~/.headers"). 
-Miles 
-- -- Miles Bader  --  HCRC, University of Edinburgh  -- 
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Craig_Everhart@TRANSARC.COM writes: > I believe that the objection to
using the existing mechanisms was that > the .atkinit parser couldn't
quote funky characters such as appear to be > in an X-Face: header,
rather than in Messages doing anything with > headers it doesn't
understand.  (I believe that AMS won't f*** [fool] > with ``headers it
doesn't know about.'') 
Looking back at nathaniel's message, you're right, the problem is
reported to be in the atkinit file.  [So then why not just have it suck
in a file to add to the headers when setting up the message?  Actually
what's needed is someway of specifying events (in .*init) that are
invoked by the program instead of a keystroke or menu selection (i.e.,
hooks in emacs)...] 
Anyway, couldn't isn't there an "insert-file," proctable entry so that
you don't have to put the wierd characters in the init file? 
-Miles -- -- Miles Bader  --  HCRC, University of Edinburgh  -- 
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This isn't exactly the right place to post this request, but perhaps
someone in the know can point me in the right direction. 
I'm looking for information on how to obtain a version of CMU Tutor, cT,
or whatever it is currently called that will run in the MIT X11 Andrew
environment. 
Thanks in advance, Rick McMullen Center for Innovative Computer
Applications 819 Poplars Building Indiana University Bloomington, IN 
47405 
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In article <oc5iHSa0M2Yt82gcQu@thumper.bellcore.com>
nsb@THUMPER.BELLCORE.COM (Nathaniel Borenstein) writes:  >  > Anybody
who's running a mail-reader that is too dumb to filter out  > headers
such as "X-Face" is already so totally accustomed to seeing  > garbage
headers that one more isn't going to make any difference... --  >
Nathaniel 
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header goo then contents. The main thing header garbage does is wasting
bandwidth and upping the profits of the phone companies... 
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I have SUN workstations, running SunOS 4.1.1, and I have been able to
compile andrew from the X11R4 tape, patched to patch level 9. 
In general it seems to work, but refuses to connect to remote X servers.
The following is what I see when I try to start ez: 
	ararat[1, 108 ] % printenv DISPLAY 	bart:0.0 	ararat[1, 109 ] % ez foo
	Starting ez (Version 7.0, ATK 15.5); please wait... 	Could not open the
display; this program will not run without a window system. 	Could not
create new window. 	exiting. 
I think I should mention, I am using yellow pages (NIS), not the domain
name service.  (It wasn't my choice.)  Is there something obvious I'm
overlooking? I tried undefining RESOLV_ENV in my site.h, but then runapp
wouldn't link. 

Also, typescript doesn't work.  I execute typescript, and it creates a
window just fine.  However,  after maybe printing a prompt, the shell
dies leaving an impotent typescript window -- I can type in it, but
nothing gets executed. 

Will patch #10 fix these problems? 
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<wc7L=VK00Vtq4jqG54@andrew.cmu.edu> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 91 13:05:20 -0700
From: steve@lia.com 

The following does work: 
ararat[1, 103 ] % ypmatch bart hosts 192.9.205.50    bart ararat[1, 104
] % setenv DISPLAY 192.9.205.50:0.0 ararat[1, 106 ] % ez foo Starting ez
(Version 7.0, ATK 15.5); please wait... Could not find host 192.9.205.50
in ez(xim). Error messages may not go to console. 

What is happening is simple.  The library -lresolv has in it a
gethostbynam() that uses the resolver.  When the program is linked, the
first available gethostbyname, the one is -lresolv, is used.  Hence, my
problem. 
I try to compile RESOLV_ENV undefined, but then I get the following
error while linking 'dofix.'  (I did not have these problems before I
applied the patches:-) 
cc -O -I/lia/andrew/include/atk -I/lia/andrew/include
-I/lia/X11r4/usr/include  -o dofix ../machdep/machine/dofix.o
../lib/libclass.a ld: Undefined symbol    __res_close   
_res_querydomain    _dn_expand    _p_cdname    __sethtent    __getlong  
 _p_class    _res_mkquery    _sethostfile    _p_rr    __res_resultcodes 
  _res_search    _res_init    _p_query    __gethtbyaddr    __endhtent   
__res    __gethtbyname    _res_send    __gethtent    __getshort   
_putlong    _dn_skipname    _fp_query    __res_opcodes    _res_query   
_dn_comp    _p_type    _hostalias    _putshort    __getrhbyaddr