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From: deb5@midway.uchicago.edu (Daniel von Brighoff)
Subject: Re: Anounsing a nu Ingglish spelling
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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 05:36:30 GMT
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In article <5bem0b$4u4@news4.digex.net>,
Keith C. Ivey <kcivey@cpcug.org> wrote:
>deb5@midway.uchicago.edu (Daniel von Brighoff) wrote:
>
>>The only "minimal pair" I can think of is 'rider'/'writer', 
>>where both medial consonants fall together as a voiced flap.  
>>Here, the phonemic spelling, which preserves the connexion
>>with 'ride' and 'write' is obviously preferable to a strictly 
>>phonetic one, e.g. "rai'r" vs. "rui'r", or somesuch nonsense.
>
>There are lots more minimal pairs (in US English) using the
>flap: "ladder"/"latter", "The rain is beading/beating on the
>window", "medal"/"metal", "pedal"/"petal", "feudal"/"futile",
>"siding"/"sighting", "bidder"/"bitter", ...
>
>Of course, your point about phonemic spelling still stands.

Although I didn't do a good job of reflecting this in writing, I meant
only minimal pairs involving [@j] and [aj].  Still, you managed to find at
least one more: <siding>/<sighting>.  And I suspect ya were neven haff
tryin.

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