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From: petrich@netcom.com (Loren Petrich)
Subject: Re: original Nostratic word challenge
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In article <3lk9s4$8ei@epx.cis.umn.edu>,
William E Meuse <meus0001@maroon.tc.umn.edu> wrote:
... Up to 
>now what little I've seen of Nostratic has been in this group and on  
>PBS Nova.

	I just posted a big file of references. Since your posting 
address is a university one, you might be able to find at least *some* of 
the books on my list.

... Maybe now you can show me how those scientists on Nova figured 
>the 'proto-World' numerals TIK, POW! (1, 2)... I don't know of a single 
>language on the face of this Earth even remotely like this, and I've 
>looked at numbers in hundreds of languages!     

	Try looking at the Ruhlen books on my list. According to him and 
some other Proto-Worlders, "tik" means not only "one", but "finger" and 
"to point" [what one does with a finger]. An example is the Indo-European 
root *deik-, for which I quote the American Heritage Dictionary, courtesy 
of command-C and command-V; some of the fancy characters in the original 
didn't translate right:

deik-. Important derivatives are: teach, token, digit, toe, dictate, 
addict, condition, predict, preach, index, indicate, judge, prejudice, 
revenge, disk.
deik-. To show, pronounce solemnly; also in derivatives referring to the 
directing of words or objects. 
I. Variant *deig-.
1. O-grade form *doig-. a. TEACH, from Old English tLcan, to show, 
instruct, from Germanic *taikjan, to show; b. (i) TOKEN, from Old English 
tEcen, tEcn, sign, mark; (ii) BETOKEN, from Old English tEcnian, to 
signify; (iii) TETCHY, from Gothic taikns, sign; (I.) TACHISME, from Old 
French tache, teche, mark, stain. (i), (ii), (iii), and (iv) all from 
Germanic *taiknam.
2. DIGIT, from Latin digitus, finger (< pointer, indicator). 
II. Basic form *deik-.
1. Possibly o-grade form *doik-. TOE, from Old English tE, tahe, toe, 
from Germanic *taihw.
2. Basic form *deik-. DICTATE, DICTION, DICTUM, DITTO, DITTY; ADDICT, 
BENEDICTION, CONDITION, CONTRADICT, EDICT, FATIDIC, (INDICT), INDITE, 
INTERDICT, JURIDICAL, JURISDICTION, MALEDICT, PREDICT, VALEDICTION, 
VERDICT, VERIDICAL, VOIR DIRE, from Latin dhcere, to say, tell.
3. Zero-grade form *dik-E-. ABDICATE, DEDICATE, PREACH, PREDICATE, from 
Latin dicEre, to proclaim.
4. Agential suffix *-dik-. a. INDEX, INDICATE, from Latin index, 
indicator, forefinger (in-, toward; see en); b. JUDGE, JUDICIAL; 
PREJUDICE, from Latin iudex (< *yewes-dik-), judge, one who shows or 
pronounces the law (ius, law; see yewes-); c. (VENDETTA), VINDICATE; 
(AVENGE), REVENGE, from Latin vindex (first element obscure), surety, 
claimant, avenger.
5. DEICTIC; APODICTIC, PARADIGM, POLICY2, from Greek deiknunai, to show, 
with deigma (*deik-mx), sample, pattern.
6. Zero-grade form *dik-. DISK; DICTYOSOME, from suffixed form *dik-skos, 
from Greek dikein, to throw (< to direct an object).
7. Form *dikE. DICAST; SYNDIC, THEODICY, from Greek dikT, justice, right, 
court case. [Pokorny dei|- 188.]

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