Newsgroups: comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.lisp.franz
Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!cornellcs!travelers.mail.cornell.edu!news.kei.com!news.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!news.msfc.nasa.gov!pendragon.jsc.nasa.gov!ames!eos!kronos.arc.nasa.gov!ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov!kpc
From: k p c <kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Best Emacs for Lisp Development
In-Reply-To: lynbech@cobalt.daimi.aau.dk's message of 25 Oct 1995 11:54:02 GMT
Message-ID: <1995Oct26.034234.12807@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov>
To: lynbech@cobalt.daimi.aau.dk (Christian Lynbech)
X-Disclaimer: No organization, company, or government is represented here.
X-Attribution: kpc
Lines: 38
Sender: usenet@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov (usenet@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov)
Nntp-Posting-Host: phenotype.arc.nasa.gov
Reply-To: kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov
Cc: kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Ames Research Ctr., AI Research and Aero. Facil. Branches.
	Disclaimer: neither a civil servant nor a representative.
References: <DERWAY.95Oct17090941@alumni.ndc.com>
	<LYNBECH.95Oct23141849@cobalt.daimi.aau.dk>
	<1995Oct24.031022.20002@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov>
	<LYNBECH.95Oct25125402@cobalt.daimi.aau.dk>
Distribution: inet
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 1995 03:35:31 GMT
Xref: glinda.oz.cs.cmu.edu comp.lang.lisp:19708 comp.lang.lisp.franz:589

Quoth lynbech@cobalt.daimi.aau.dk (Christian Lynbech):
> I do not think that GNU emacs is working very hard towards CL. In
> fact, it is my impression that it will rather work towards scheme. If

Could be.  I do not know the current status of the Guile effort or
Xemacs' role in it.  I commented on CL rather than Scheme because I
and the readers in comp.lang.lisp are more interested in the former.

I stand by the comment that Xemacs appears to be moving more quickly
toward CL than RMS Emacs.  That might change and it might not be worth
much if neither one is moving much, but every little bit helps CL
people.  CL keywords, for example, appear in Xemacs but not in RMS
emacs except in cl.el.  Perhaps it is only a temporary bubble in the
ferment of lisp changes in both versions.

Scheme and CL cross-fertilize somewhat.  Moving toward either
standard, either by analogy (doing things the way <insert standard>
would do them) or homology (implementing an <insert standard>
feature), would be an improvement IMHO.

> I am not trying to start a religious war over which emacs is better. I

Go for it, d00d!  Just remember to disclaim every paragraph with "It
is a well-known fact that..." and omit smileys.  You'll fit right in.

((:-).  I'm not sure a comment a long time ago about Lucid dreaming
was understood without the smiley, so here is one.)

I have no preference for one version or the other right now because
they are both crashing.  Thus ends this part of the thread for me.

If you post a followup to this article, please also send a courtesy
verbatim copy by email to help work around potentially unreliable
feeds.

---
kpc@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov.  AI, multidisciplinary neuroethology, info filtering.
Prescriptions are a monopoly on granting permission to buy.  Legalize medicine!
