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From: moroz@inist.ru (Oleg Moroz)
Subject: Re: Common LISP: The Next Generation
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 00:48:45 GMT
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>> So guys, Common Lisp is wonderful language. Scheme is wondeful language. Dylan
>> is wonderful language. Haskell is even more wondeful. I can't wait for
>the time
>> when I can write the kind of applications I write for living in one of these
>> wonderful languages. But right now I just can't. And nobody can do it
>right now.
>
>I could. I sure know companies who do. Just ask Altavista or
>Dejanews for recent postings about Lisp related job offers.
>You might also want to look at the Lisp FAQ. There
>is an entry for a mailing list for Lisp related jobs.
>
>You may want to look at the customer list of Digitool (http://www.digitool.com).
>Looks not that bad to me (companies like AT&T, Motorola, Adobe, ...).
>Ask Harlequin and Franz for references.

Well, I'm really happy with my current job. I'm mostly happy with the tools I
use right now, but I feel that using such languages as Lisp, Dylan, SML and
Haskell could make my work _much_ more productive given the right
implementation/development environment. I don't want to look for another
employment opportunity just for the target OS or language change - I just play
with all these wonderful things at home and the fact that I cannot use it at
work just increases my frustration. 

>> Another point here - have you seen the work done at Microsoft research labs on
>> Intentional Programming ? That thing is supposed to end language wars once and
>> for all - and it's real I'd say... And I'm sure it will integrate with Windows
>> as seamlessly as possible - it's Microsoft after all. Too bad they say
>it'll be
>> in "product" state in 2000 :-(
>
>Interestingly enough they have been using some Lisp.
>
>BOB for example was written in Lisp.

Bob ? In Lisp ? What kind of Lisp ? From the brief look at the Bob binaries on
the CD I'd swear it was written in "Modular" Visual Basic (the unreleased kind
of VB targeted for hand-help computers) plus some multimedia extensions in DLLs.
If it's really written in Lisp then I understand why it runs so slow :-)

Oleg
