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From: ccb8m@opal.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy)
Subject: Re: Brain and Body aspects of same thing.  Mind and Matter defined in more basic terms.
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In article <4dj5gv$jri@boris.eden.com> lug@eden.com (Lug) writes:
>Andrew and Kylie (jelemold@ozemail.com.au) wrote:
>
>: Thirdly, if "perception does equal reality" then what of those war casualities
>: that lost an arm or leg and felt phantom pains (doc my leg hurts something
>: terrible - it should it's gone ;). These phatom pains continued even after the
>: patient was shown the missing leg or arm. These pains would suggest that
>: perception does not always equate with reality.
>
>Well, a good thought, however ...
>
>This would be a good argument if the amputee had no way to perceive that he 
>didn't have his leg in reality.  No one to tell him.  No way to see it.  
>No way to feel with other members.  Et cetera.    
>
>The fact that these other ways to perceive probably do exist in your 
>hypothetical means that he'll likely perceive, finally, that he has no leg.

You miss the point.  Even after the other sensor modalities compensate
for the internal "pain" the patient will feel pain for quite some time.
According to the perception/reality people this man should be able to walk
since his internal personal reality tells him he has a leg. Nothing has
changed internally, his leg still feels like hell. Oh, suppose there was no
compensation?  Would that mean the guy could walk since he still has a
leg in his personal reality?

Aiee Death from above
Charles
ccb8m@virginia.edu
