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From: minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky)
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Professor Penrose
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In article <30ef0c53.56554c43414e@vulcan.xs4all.nl> johanw@vulcan.xs4all.nl (Johan Wevers) writes:
>Timothy Murphy <tim@maths.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
>>In that case, surely your belief is pre-ordained too,
>>and so of little value.
>
>I don't know how my beliefs are formed and what the influence of real
>(quantum) undeterminacy is on them. But I don't follow the logic that
>claims they are of little value in that case. Can you please explain?

Perhaps he meant in the same sense that logic itself could be
considered to have no value because its conclusions are determined by
its assumptions.  It might be fun to see some proposals for
useful definitions of value--or valuable definitions of useful.



