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From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: Is There A TRUE Industry LEADER in AI?
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Date: Sat, 21 Jan 1995 19:00:59 GMT
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cowden@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Anthony Cowden) writes:
>John Nagle (nagle@netcom.com) wrote:
>> johnston@fapse.unige.ch (Tom Johnstone) writes:
>> >Whoah! What about all the applications of AI-produced methods such as
>> >fuzzy logic and ANNs in consumer electronics such as video cameras.
>>      Most of the "fuzzy logic" stuff in consumer products is hype, too.
>> Read "What's all this fuzzy logic stuff, anyway?", in Bob Pease' column
>> in Electronic Design.  Most of that simply reflects things you can do
>> if you have a reasonable amount of CPU power available in the product.
>> 					John Nagle
>	And if you don't have a "reasonable" (fuzzy term!) amount of CPU
>power available...?  Anyway, not to get sidetracked, Pease is an avowed
>skeptic of fuzzy logic (a co-worker routes me his column every time he
>writes something about fuzzy logic). 
>I have more faith that time will show fuzzy logic to be
>more than just hype, and that it is far too early to pass judgement on it...
        This is technology, not religion.

        "Smart" consumer products mostly contain control techniques that
have been used in larger automated systems for years if not decades.
Camera stabilization is a technology borrowed from the military
(stabilized binoculars date back to the Vietnam war, although they
were not widely used), and more elaborate control strategies for home
appliances are borrowed from standard industrial control technique.

        Sugeno's adaptive fuzzy technique is clever, although the way
he does it is too expensive computationally.  There is some real work
going on.

					John Nagle

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