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Article 5908 of comp.ai.philosophy:
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>From: sarima@tdatirv.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Re: Grounding: Real vs. Virtual (formerly "on meaning")
Keywords: symbol, analog, Turing Test, robotics
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Date: 25 May 92 14:23:01 GMT
References: <1992May20.191738.18644@mp.cs.niu.edu> <1992May21.173906.22368@psych.toronto.edu> <595@trwacs.fp.trw.com> <1992May22.152511.675@news.media.mit.edu>
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In article <1992May22.152511.675@news.media.mit.edu> minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes:
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|I'd be careful about using this for philosophical argument because it
|is not clear that motor feedback is required for human development --
|at least in "large quantities".  In the LOGO project here, a graduate
|student, Jose Valente, was introduced to a severe CP patient who could
|only grunt and voluntarily move a few muscles.

I do not recognise the abbreviation (CP), is this a birth defect of the
motor control system? or is it a post-birth disease?

If it developed after birth by even so short a time as 2 years, the primary
ocular-motor correlation discussed in the deleted experiment has already
occured in humans.

|I'm not exactly disagreeing with Harry; only thatdespite Richard
|Held's great experiments -- which included monkeys! --, it seems that
|humans are not quite typical "small mammals" presumably because they
|can construct internal virtual realities and use these for "internal
|premotor feedback."

This is certainly true after age 2 or so, but before? I am not sure.
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