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>From: zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
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Subject: Re: Robotic Follies (was re: Strong AI and Panpsy
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Date: 2 Feb 92 22:30:13 GMT
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In article <OZ.92Feb2130854@ursa.sis.yorku.ca> 
oz@ursa.sis.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit) writes:
	
>In-Reply-To: zeleny@brauer.harvard.edu's message of 1 Feb 92 23: 30:52 GMT

MM:
>   >Yes, because of being several times removed from their contexts.  What
>   >I've said about "belief" in a philosophical context was that the idea
>   >that "Jack believes X" is not a reasonable thing to discuss formally.
>   >(For example, in the context of "believes" vs. "knows".)

MZ: [in response]
>   As an example of proof by vehement assertion by an eminent authority, I
>   find this claim somewhat less than credible, in particular since Alonzo
>   Church, whose authority in logical matters trumps Professor Minsky's own
>   many times over, has made important contributions to the subject of logic
>   of belief, both in his Alternative (0) of Logic of Sense and Denotation,
>   and in his recent theory of proposition surrogates.  Of course neither this
>   fact, nor the fact that many other philosophers have since contributed to
>   our understanding of belief, will have any bearing on Professor Minsky's
>   long-estabilished, self-refuting beliefs on this subject.

OY:
>Summarize Church's latest theory instead of merely dropping his name,
>and show why this theory should be taken more seriously than any other
>possible theory advanced by, say Minsky. While you are at it, make sure
>to summarize those other philosophers' views as well, and do spare us
>more of your pedantic appeals to authorithy by name dropping and proof
>by vituperative rambling.

Had you been capable of finding your ass without a flashlight, you might
have been able to look things up, thankful that you had been given a
reference; but then, were your cognitive faculties operating at more than
their present pilot light capability, you might have realized in a dazzling
paroxysm of spontaneous recollection that I have been presenting and
discussing Churchian semantics for the past three months.  As the matter
stands, you are too dull to even understand that Minsky's sorry excuse for
a polemical stance consists not in advancing any possible theory of belief
semantics, but in rejecting on alleged a priori grounds of the very
possibility thereof.  So long, halfwit.

>oz
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