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From: stevens@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Greg Stevens)
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In <3fbdcb$44t@ixnews2.ix.netcom.com> prem@ix.netcom.com (Prem Sobel) writes:

> [...]
>All who have taken the time and care to learn about consciousness, to
>study it through the means appropriate to it have discovered, or rather
>verified, that there are sources of knowing beyond the physical.

>Creativity itself is one example. 

Well, it's physical, just not experiential -- innate heuristic knowledge.

>Love is another example. 

And here I thought love was the overstimulation of the opiate receptors
in the hypothalamus.  :-)

>Love is
>not a pattern of bits encoded in the neural network of the brain.

References?  Proof?

>Love is not a determinism of automata theory. Is feeling how another 
>is feeling, through empathy, through identity, even through physical
>observation and reasoning by analogs of our own experience still
>comes to down to an inner state of feeling.

This can't be coded in the brain?  This can't be physically experiential?

> The feeling of well being,
>anger, humor, the joy in learning, and so much more is beyond the
>states of bits encoded in the brain. 

Once again, do you have proof for this assertion?  References?  There is
a lot of research going into emotions and their underlying neurochemistry
and neurophysioanatomy, you know.  Should we tell them all to give it up?

Greg Stevens

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