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From: fehrja@iscdcvm3.cdcgate.dupont.com (John Albert Fehr)
Subject: Re: Microsoft enters the Smalltalk IDE market? True?
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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 1995 17:39:37 GMT
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In article <45ggv6$jvk@watnews2.watson.ibm.com>, David N. Smith <dnsmith@watson.ibm.com> says:
>
>In article <45fr9t$an6@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Bytesmiths,
>bytesmiths@aol.com writes:
>>
>>    "I am told that Microsoft is soon to enter the Smalltalk IDE market to
>>become a competitor to Parcplace etc... Any release date?"
>>
[stuff deleted]
>
>At least five years ago one of the leading smalltalk vendors had
>long talks with Gates about Smalltalk. Gates was fascinated and
>even went around saying:
> 
>   "Hey, I could do that in Smalltalk in an hour" 
>
>instead of his usual:
>
>   "Hey, I could do that in Basic in an hour."
>
>Things didn't 'progress' with that vendor. End of story.
>
[stuff deleted]
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>Oh, that vendor that had talks with Gates??  Make NO assumtions.
>I've been around the Smalltalk 'industry' since before there were
>any products at all. My first Smalltalk was partly licensed from
>Berkeley (Ungar's BS Smalltalk) and part from XEROX PARC (the
>image). I've known the main players and principles of at least
>four Smalltalk vendors for over a decade and more for less time.
>It could have been any of them. It was not any company I ever
>worked for. And you'll learn a lot by pulling out my toenails 
>(us cowards don't take pain well at all) but you won't learn 
>THIS name...
>
>Dave
>

Gosh, Mr. Smith, why is the name of the vendor so important?
If you know the answer, and you do not want us to know (so you
can keep patronizing us), why the secret?  What is so important
about someone talking to Mr. Gates about Smalltalk (or anything,
for that matter...)?

Just so very anxious for your answers,  -John
