Newsgroups: talk.origins,sci.skeptic,alt.religion.christian,alt.politics.correct,alt.christnet,talk.religion.misc,rec.arts.sf.written,alt.fan.heinlein,alt.politics.usa.republican,alt.folklore.urban,alt.politics.usa.congress,alt.christnet.bible,talk.abortion,alt.blasphemy,alt.postmodern,sci.lang,alt.catastrophism,alt.fan.publius,alt.activism,alt.conspiracy,talk.atheism,alt.philosophy.debate
Path: cantaloupe.srv.cs.cmu.edu!rochester!cornellcs!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!news.tc.cornell.edu!news.cac.psu.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!swrinde!newsfeed.internetmci.com!iglou!news
From: gnewman@iglou.com (Greg 'Bonz' Newman)
Subject: Re: Noah & other bible myths
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: dp1-014.ppp.iglou.com
Message-ID: <DurDqJ.GyG@iglou.com>
Sender: news@iglou.com (News Administrator)
Reply-To: gnewman@iglou.com
Organization: Wormsby Works
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82
References: <4s9otl$1pt@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <705.6771T494T2133@gulf.net> <4sghi4$k77@dfw-ixnews6.ix.netcom.com> <4sgnnj$dj3@atlas.xylogics.com> <4sgr9s$jv2@sjx-ixn4.ix.netcom.com> <4slt2a$jl4@atlas.xylogics.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 21:45:49 GMT
Lines: 43
Xref: glinda.oz.cs.cmu.edu sci.skeptic:190383 sci.lang:57685

On 18 Jul 1996 17:42:34 GMT, jking@alnitak.xylogics.com (Jack
King) wrote:

>Libertarius (attila1@ix.netcom.com) wrote:
>: >
>: >I see.  Daniel never existed.  Isn't it strange that Jesus himself
>: >refers to Daniel as a prophet (Math 24:15).  But I suppose you have
>: >a better source?
>: >
>: >Jack
>: >
>:     Jesus MAY HAVE referred to the BOOK of Daniel, unless it is another
>: of the multitude of cases where the gospel novelists put words in his
>: mouth.

>Yes, Jesus is refering to a prophecy found in the Daniel scroll, but
>he refers to Daniel as a real person.  Note...

>   "...as spoken of through Daniel the prophet..."

>Of course, as you implied, maybe Matthew just made it all up.



>:       As I said, its author attributed his book to a "Daniel", a
>: fictitious character named in Ezekiel (14:14) along with Noah and Job. 

>I see, because Noah and Job supposedly ficticious, Correct?  Let's
>look at another passage.  At Ez 28:3, God speaking to Ezekiel says,
>"...you are wiser than Daniel."  Pretty nice compliment, No?  But
>wait!  If Daniel is just some fictitious cartoon character, it 
>doesn't fit.  If I said, "Libertarius, you're wiser than Santa
>Claus" would you be very impressed?

 No, because Santa isn't portrayed as particularly wise. Telling
a detective he's a Columbo *is* a compliment. Calling a mean
person a Scrooge, a blowhard a Pololuius or a magician an Aladdin
are considered to be telling comments.

Maybe you haven't sat through as many introductions as I have.



