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From: rstevew@armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Subject: Re: Splitting comp.robotics
Organization: The Armory
Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 14:42:48 GMT
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In article <Cw3qpo.HFw@news.cis.umn.edu>,
Dean Hougen <hougen@milli.cs.umn.edu> wrote:
>In article <352ba7$hq4@news.nd.edu> jyoder@schiller.helios.nd.edu (johndavid yoder) writes:
>>I for one think the group should stay at is.  As a researcher, I think there
>>is already far to great of a split between theory and practice.  Students
>>wanting to actually design and build robots would be well served to see
>>a lot of what people will classify .homebrew
>
>People willing to read homebrew material will do it regardless of a split.
>Those of us who do not wish to read this material are not reading it now,
>we are just wasting our time skipping through it by subject line.
>
>Attempting to force people to read material that they are not interested
>in will not work and shows a great arrogance on your part.  We do not need
>to be forced to read this material for our own good.  We are perfectly
>capable of choosing on our own what to read.  What those in favor of a
>split are pushing for is an easier way to get at what we want.
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Ah yes, Dean, and I hope sincerely with all my heart that the people who
know just enough more than you do decline to talk to YOU about anything,
because after all, you know, you're just a bore and a pain, talking about
things they already know all too well. And they can justify it by saying
that "Well, gee, we shouldn't be forced to read what we don't want to read,
should we?" Reminds me of Cain's ridiculous whining to God about the
whereabouts of Abel: "Gee, goddamn, am *I* my brother's 'keeper'?" The
answer was, "Shit yes you are, asshole! You take care of those under you so
those above you will see you as worthy of THEIR attention!!!"
And Notre Dame seemed to have it all over you on information morality.
A good reason why engineering weenies should have to take religion and
ethics! It's no wonder you quote Oingo Boingo there, in fact its precious!
The writer complains about treatment from above while ignoring how he treats
those under HIM!!! Truly Classic Assininity! You forgot that the net is a
SHARING!!!! I hope you split all the way down to a group in which only you
keep trying to read, thinking there must be SOMEBODY else JUST LIKE YOU, so
you don't have to endure other people!!!
-Steve Walz   rstevew@armory.com

>>jd yoder
>>U. of Notre Dame
>
>Dean Hougen
>--
>"They think you're stupid, that you haven't got a brain,
> that you're just there to listen, that you're just being trained."
>    - Oingo Boingo

