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From: rfenney@directnet.com (Robert J. Fenney)
Subject: Re: SCRUM and Why the Waterfall Methodology is a Fool's Errand ...
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In article <48vfqc$l0f@jobes.sierra.net>, Charles C. Lloyd
<clloyd@giantleap.com> wrote:

> Jeff Sutherland <jsuth@vmark.com> wrote:
> >  At a recent tutorial at an OO Conference, I made the point that 
> >  there were a number of companies complaining about not getting 
> >  the benefits promising by object technology.  In every case that 
> >  I have been able to examine closely, they were not using an 
> >  iterative/incremental development process (see Pittman, IEEE 
> >  Software, Jan 93).  
> 
> I would claim that most compaines are not getting the benefits promised by  
> OO because they have chosen to use C++ rather than a true OO system 
> (Smalltalk, Objective-C, to name a couple).  The C++ environments I've seen 
> are not conducive to iterative development, while Smalltalk certainly is.  
> So while a mindset change is required, so is a change of tools.
> 
> Charles.
> ---
>        Charles Lloyd                        clloyd@giantleap.com
>        GiantLeap Software                   PO Box 8734
>        (702) 831-4630                       Incline Village, NV 89452

Most people that program in C++ don't know the first thing about OOP or
OOD. The think that ren naming thier files with the ".c++"/".cp"/".cpp"
extension constitutes OOPs! C++ can an is used to do real OOP it is just
not as easy as Smalltalk or ObjC because there is none of the supporting
inforstructure such as the extensive class libraries ..... I have been
programming in C++ for 9 years?, Smalltalk over 1 year, and ObjC for over 1
year, but I have been programming in OOPs for over 16 years! Every time I
interview a job candidate that has C++ on thier resume I find that it
really is only C.


Robert
