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From: johnk@spasm.niddk.nih.gov (John Kuszewski)
Subject: Re: Sun's HotJava - ParPlace's Visualworks??
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Date: Wed, 7 Jun 1995 21:27:09 GMT
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In article <3r50la$h25@lll-winken.llnl.gov>, Rick Millar <rmillar@llnl.gov> writes:
|> pnm@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (Paul Big-Ears Menon) wrote:
|> 
|> >			Sun's HotJava	Parcplace's Visualworks
|> >			=============	=======================
|> >Ports:
|> 	Mac		No		Yes (A very bad one)
|> >
|> 
|> 
|> I am a newbie to smalltalk and VW and am using both the DOS and Mac
|> VW2.0 ports.  Could you enlighten me on what you view as the shortcomings
|> of the Mac port so that I can look out for them?

The Mac version of VW is pathetic.  No menubar (except through a really
nasty hack that precludes a lot of other things), no proper fonts, no
AppleEvents, lousy sound, no QuickTime, very very slow responsiveness.

ParcPlace could hardly care less about the quality of their Mac 
port--it's an absolute disgrace.   It's just a "check-off" item 
to them--yup, they do have a Mac version.  They don't expect anyone
to be satisfied with it.

The only other professional Smalltalk available for the Mac is 
Quasar Knowledge Systems' SmalltalkAgents.  It is *much* *much* better.
When the Windows version of STA appears, I hope PP will rot.

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