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From: franka@parcplace.com (Frank Adrian)
Subject: Re: Needed Smalltalk programmer
Message-ID: <1994Sep21.155345.12060@parcplace.com>
Organization: ParcPlace Systems
References: <35342m$c1c@search01.news.aol.com> <patrick_d_logan.96.000E4FD9@ccm.jf.intel.com>
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 1994 15:53:45 GMT
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In article <patrick_d_logan.96.000E4FD9@ccm.jf.intel.com> patrick_d_logan@ccm.jf.intel.com (Patrick D. Logan) writes:
>In article <35342m$c1c@search01.news.aol.com> haroldlp@aol.com (HaroldLP) writes:
>
>>If you have no more than 1 1/2 years experience since college... you will be 
>>a part of our skills resource team... Salary
>>to match experience level.
>
>I have no information about this specific company or offer, but the pieces 
>I've quoted above say a lot to me.
>
>Is there an impedance mismatch or are there a batch of truly gifted and 
>experienced Smalltalkers out of school less than two years?
>

No, there's just a lot of consulting companies who want to find employees
who will work mega-hours for micro-bucks.  Unfortunately, there are a lot
of inexperienced programmers who will do this in the name of "getting ex-
perience".  The telling line in the initial post was "no more than 1 1/2
years experience since college".  I'd wonder who would want to hire this
firm to write software for them, given that the people who work for them
are of this nature.  It seems like a formula for mis-estimated job
schedules, cost overruns, and low quality, but then, I guess that P. T.
Barnum was right when he said, "There's a sucker born every minute...".
In this case, it appears that Harold has found a carreer in finding such
at both ends of the body shop pipe.

P.S.  I also know that there are several very good consulting companies
out there who will work with inexperienced people and treat them fairly
(not particularly well, but fairly :-), but from the above quotes, I don't
think we have a case of that here. Obligatory flamebait follows: Another
clue - the guy was posting from AOL.
-- 
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