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From: dp@world.std.com (Jeff DelPapa)
Subject: Re: 3 Mbit Ethernet (was Re: Theory #51 (superior(?) programming languages))
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Organization: Chaos and Confusion
References: <3059948144828413@naggum.no> <KETIL-ytqu3nzmx4w.fsf@imr.no> <E4uGJ4.IwK@world.std.com> <5crn5i$8fc@watt.cs.unc.edu>
Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 15:34:04 GMT
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In article <5crn5i$8fc@watt.cs.unc.edu>, Jon Leech <leech@cs.unc.edu> wrote:
>In article <E4uGJ4.IwK@world.std.com>, Jeff DelPapa <dp@world.std.com> wrote:
>>It doesn't help your adoption battle that the system was very complex
>>for its day, and the product of the same community that gave us ITS
>>(<alt><alt>U anyone), and the original emacs.	They had a window
>>system, pointing device, and LAN well before they were in normal
>>use. (for example the lan used in the first machines predated the
>>10mhz ethernet standard, it was modeled after the expiremental, you
>>can't buy any 3mhz system that Xerox was trying at PARC).  [snipped]
>
>    We ran 3 Mbit Ethernet in the Caltech Computer Science Department for a
>while, though I don't remember the provenance of the hardware.

Xerox did seed some Alto's to universities, MIT had some.  Much later,
they actually started to sell their lisp hardware.  If you ordered a
dandelion, it came with 10Mbit modern ether.  If you were crazed, and
insisted repeatedly, they woud build a dorado for you. (ecl cpu, made
a great space heater).  Dorado's supposedly were stuck with 3Mbit
ether, as they wern't going to touch the design.

<dp>



