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From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer)
Subject: Re: Great Lisp Programmer Shortage?
Message-ID: <1996Nov7.143936.16186@wavehh.hanse.de>
Organization: BSD User Group Hamburg
References: <5557pd$b1n@nntp.seflin.lib.fl.us> <199611011334.a58239@ms3.maus.de> <Pine.SOL.3.95.961104093225.5583A-100000@granby>
Date: Thu, 7 Nov 96 14:39:36 GMT
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WJ Bland <pmykwjb@unix.ccc.nottingham.ac.uk> writes:

>On Fri, 1 Nov 1996, Georg Bauer wrote:

>> Actually xlisp and PC-Lisp are not of much use anymore. There are much
>> better free Lisps around, for example CLISP and the ACL/PC Web Release.
>> xlisp and pc-lisp are both long outdated. Almost every newer book on Lisp
>> uses Common Lisp or Scheme, so you should use one of those languages and
>> not an oldfashioned dynamic scoping lisp.
>> 
>[snip]
>> 
>> BTW: CLISP has a interpreter and a bytecode-compiler and ACL/PC is a
>> native-code-compiler. Both are _much_ faster than xlisp and pc-lisp.
>> 
>> bye, Georg

>OK, so what should *I* do?  I've used xlisp and pc-lisp and found
>them rather poor, just as you said.
>CLISP is almost what I want, but I really want support for windoze.

There's a DOS version of Clisp that runs under Windows. It has no
windows support in that way that no native Win32/Win16 functions are
bound. 

>ACL/PC is probably exactly what I want, but when I installed it on
>my PC (OK, it is a 386 with only 4Mb memory) I had to leave it for

Really, that is not the machine to use Lisp under Windows.

>about an hour before *anything* had happened.  I've never got to the
>stage where it's actually finished opening all its windows and you
>finally get to do something with it.

>Any suggestions?

>Cheers,
>	Bill.

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