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Subject: Re: No employment available for mathematician/genius/programmer(LISP)
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In article <gurgle-0602951853180001@foo.bar.baz.quux>,
Pete Gontier <gurgle@dnai.com> wrote:
>In article <3h1s7i$8tv@openlink.openlink.com>,
>rem@BTR.Com (Robert Elton Maas) wrote:
>
>> I am convinced that people of the world need
>> convenient affordable access to organized information on demand, and
>> that such service will eventually replace a lot of what passes for
>> 'education' ('schooling') nowadays, and I don't back down from that
>> belief for anyone. I'm not willing to accept the view that information
>> isn't good for people, that it'd be better for them if they were denied
>> all information except what the government and the commercial
>> advertisers and the schools thought was really necessary for them to
>> learn.
>
>It's great to believe this and even to post it on the net. But I've got a
>clue for you when it comes to expressing opinions not directly related to
>the job during a job interview:
>
>        LIE
>

     I disagree.  Lieing is a cardinal sin in my book.  When one lies,
one shows that one does not have integrity.

>Or, in words which may suit you better: BACK DOWN. In this particular
>case, people don't like to be told their education was a waste of time. By
>and large people are proud of their PhDs. Sure, I've met any number of
>PhDs who are useless with respect to being productive contributors to the
>industry. But DON'T TELL THEM THAT! So what if it's a lie? Do you want a
>job or not? If you want a job, you'll go so far as to admire the stupid
>diploma hanging on the PhD's wall, even if you you think it isn't worth
>the paper it's printed on.
>

     I am now in the process of attempting to find a software engineering
job.  If the interviewer asks me a question and I don't know the answer,
the I will say "I don't know.".  If a company brings me in to interview
for a software test/QA job and the interviewer(s) ask me what my long
term goals are, then I will answer truthfully, "I want to go into the
front part, analysis, design or programming, of the software engineering
process."  If the interviewer(s) don't like that answer and that
disqualifies me from that job, then I feel that I am better off because
I kept my integrity and I know that company would not be right for me.

     In conclusion, I think that one must keep to one's guns by not lieing,
and telling the truth.  One must keep one's integrity.

