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From: hall@aplcenmp.apl.jhu.edu (Marty Hall)
Subject: Re: The fastest CL?
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Organization: SAIC AI Lab, JHU P/T CS Faculty
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Date: Wed, 31 Aug 1994 12:59:56 GMT
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marcoxa@mosaic.nyu.edu (Marco Antoniotti) writes:
<I wrote
<   [Franz buying Lucid]
<   I think that this deal has fallen through. The way I heard it was that
<   Lucid's Lisp business was making money, albeit not much. Their C/C++/Energize
<   business was losing money fast. The investors who funded the Energize
<   stuff pulled the plug rather than pour more money in. Unfortunately, since
<   there was no division financially between the two sides, this sunk the Lisp
<   side too, even though it was profitable. I don't understand why it is
<   hard to sell off the Lisp side or operate it independently, but I gather
<   there is some legal reason for this. As things stand now, they are dead
<   with nobody picking up their products. I also heard that the Solaris
<   2.3 ports and CLIM 2.0 non-beta versions were finished, but never shipped.
<
<   I could easily have this wrong; I'd like to hear a more accurate version
<   if somebody knows it. And I gather that some people were still trying to
<   swing something to keep the Lisp side alive.
<
<:) :) HUMOROUS MODE ON
<This is the sneakiest attack on the future of Lisp ever made by the
<evil forces of the C/C++ dark side.
<HUMOUROS MODE OFF

If you look at it that way, it gets even worse. I also heard that
they realized that the Energize stuff was pulling them down (JonL
called it "Albatrossergize" :-), and laid off most of their C/C++
folks a month or so from the end. They got their normal severance
pay. But when Lucid couldn't recover, things were so bad that they
just suddenly shut down. The remaining Lispers didn't get severance
pay or even their last paychecks.

Just the way I heard it... I've also heard vague rumors that someone
IS in fact picking them up, but haven't heard more. Anyone know?

						- Marty
(proclaim '(inline skates))
