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From: bob@remlap.cts.com (Bob Palmer)
Subject: Re: LISP for Apollo Workstation???
Message-ID: <1996Jan4.081144.11189@remlap.cts.com>
Organization: remlap
References: <30E3AFEA.239F@bhgcrc.gsr.hp.com> <4c0ds8$gii@kelewan.dandelion.com> <30EAB813.14D@imaginet.fr>
Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 08:11:44 GMT
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In article <30EAB813.14D@imaginet.fr> Jean-Marie Ledoyen <ledoyen@imaginet.fr> writes:
>Leonard N. Zubkoff wrote:
>> 
>> In article <30E3AFEA.239F@bhgcrc.gsr.hp.com> Gerhard Janz <gjanz@bhgcrc.gsr.hp.com> writes:
>> 
>>   From 31 of august 1991 the CommonLISP sales and support products for
>>   HP/UX and Domain/OS operating systems will be available only through
>>   Lucid, Inc.
>> 
>> Then I imagine that it is now available from Harlequin, if from anywhere,
>> since they acquired Lucid's Lisp business after Lucid went belly up in July
>> of 1994.
>
>I can't imagine a more losing combination than Apollo and Lucid Common Lisp.  What 
>possibly possessed Harlequin to acquire such a garbage technology, good only for 
>constructing giant, slow applications of no conceivable practical value, and then invest

Actually, LCL is a fairly solid product, and it has a pretty good lisp compiler too.
I currently work on an IC Design tool that runs under Lucid. I have looked at
Harlequin's LispWorks, and I'll probably be looking a Franz later this year. LCL is
not slow, and is of great practical value.

>in yet another complex language so ungainly that even Apple vomited it out at the first 

Hmmm, seems to be a lot of interest about MCL from Mac users at the Lisp conference.
You know, people who have actually bought it, and use it.

>opportunity.  Are these the great minds who will lead us into a shiny future of 
>simplified computing for the masses?  I don't think so.  No, these are dinosaurs who will 
>fall creakingly into the tarpit of ubertechnology, where their rotting corpses will be 
>devoured by small rodents of a new and better age -- rodents who speak a new language: 
>
>  Java!

Different languages as best suited to different applications. Pick the language that
best suits your needs. There are cases where Lisp is the best language to use.

>
>-- Jean-Marie Ledoyen 
>   qui fait une tentative d'anglais pour la premiere fois sur Usenet

-- bob

-- 
>> Bob Palmer                         |                         remlaP boB <<
bob@remlap.cts.com
