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Andrew and Kylie <jelemold@ozemail.com.au> wrote:
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agreement on deleted sections.

>Thirdly, if "perception does equal reality" then what of those war casualities
>that lost an arm or leg and felt phantom pains (doc my leg hurts something
>terrible - it should it's gone ;). These phatom pains continued even after the
>patient was shown the missing leg or arm. These pains would suggest that
>perception does not always equate with reality.

lets say that the thought "my leg hurts" is found to be false.  it is a 
mistake that i made in my psyche.  but what if i later wake up and find 
my leg to actually still be there, that its amputation was the 
misconception?

things can only be judged false according to the present.  we thus get 
phrases such as "i didn't know any better at the time".  you could wake 
up tommorow, and reality could be totally contradictory to the one you've 
lived in your entire life.

the point is that until i find out that something is wrong, or false, 
then it is not so.  if i do not know that some peasant is having a tough 
time in china, then _to_me_ that peasant is not having a tough time. 

the soldier has a definite pain in his leg until he realizes that its not 
there anymore.

-- 
paradoxes originate with such assertions as "A is A".  a system cannot 
necessarily describe itself, nor can an atom an atom.

why assume that there even is a truth?

interactivism is the view that we are neither subjects of our reality, 
nor is our reality a subject of us.  rather, we are an intrinsic part of 
our reality as our reality is an intrinsic part of us.

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