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From: pindor@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor)
Subject: Re: Does AI make philosophy obsolete?
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Date: Thu, 5 Oct 1995 20:37:38 GMT
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In article <BILL.95Oct4170151@ca2.nsma.arizona.edu>,
Bill Skaggs <bill@nsma.arizona.edu> wrote:
>I wrote:
>   > Let me try to be more explicit.  It is reasonably valid, I think,
>   > to define "sorrow" as the state that ensues when the system's
>   > estimate of future reward abruptly declines (*).  
>
>Andy Fogliano <SFN@wsdot.wa.gov> writes:
>   > This strikes me as an absurdly behavioral definition. A
>   > counter-example  which does not fit is simply all those people
>   > who have died in battle for their country. I doubt if any saw a
>   > future reward for themselves.
>
>You appear to be objecting to the theory that *all* actions are
>motivated by anticipation of future reward.  Fine, I never said that
>they are (at least I hope I didn't), and I don't believe that they
>are.  This "counter-example" of yours does not seem to be a
>counter-example to anything I actually said.
>
>In any case, my definition of sorrow may be absurd, but it is
>certainly not behavioral.  
>
It may also be worth noting all those ants which died in the battles for
their anthill. I am sure that no one wants to claim that they saw future
rewards for themselves.

>	-- Bill

Andrzej
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