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From: jaspert@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Jasper Taylor)
Subject: Re: On Going Beyond The Information Given & 'Cognition'
In-Reply-To: lupton@winvmj.vnet.ibm.com's message of 7 Aug 1995 15:30:17 GMT
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In article <405bi9$i7q@zen.hursley.ibm.com> lupton@winvmj.vnet.ibm.com (Pete Lupton) writes:

> What worries *me* is that I am English.  Now, although I don't
> intend to do anything illegal, I guess that, through accident or bad
> luck or bad judgement, I might end up in prison - an English prison.

I'm English too, but I'm posting from the relative safety of Scotland.

> Without seeking to pass judgement on the approriateness of David
> Longley's *techniques*, it worries me in the extreme that I might
> become someone at the receiving end of this sort of closed-minded
> extensionalist dogma. It worries me enormously that David is unable
> to separate extensionalism from what doesn't seem particularly
> controversial - that clinical judgement would benefit from improved
> documentation.

Don't worry; if they can really convince themselves that only the
statistics are worth considering, they'll stop locking _anyone_ up ---
after all, recidivism rates are _much_ higher amongst criminals given
custodial sentences than amongst those convicted of the same crimes
who get non-custodial punishments. I'm sure David can supply the
figures.

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