From leao@buphy0.bu.edu Mon Aug 24 15:13:53 1992
From: leao@buphy0.bu.edu (Joao Leao)
Newsgroups: comp.ai.philosophy
Subject: Loebner Prize Transc. Terminal 8
Keywords: Turing Test
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:52:35 GMT
Organization: Artificial Physics Lab * Boston University


      Turing Test Transcript for Terminal 8 *  "Burgundy Wines"


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00:47:12  Terminal 8


00:47:31 JUDGE INTERUPTED


00:47:31  Judge 6
I like red wine. What is a 'burgundy'?

00:48:07  Terminal 8

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00:48:21  Judge 6
Please repeat.

00:49:07  Terminal 8
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mixed together on the same line
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01:24:42 JUDGE PRESENT


01:24:42  Judge 5
What?

01:24:47  Terminal 8

One of the most interesting aspects of wine tasting is one's own            
 change with time.  Most people begin by drinking white wine, and then      
 an important fraction of those individuals move to red wines.  I did.      
 But there are so many other changes.  Like my interest in "soft" wines.    


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01:37:54 JUDGE PRESENT


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01:38:12 CHANGE OF JUDGES


01:38:14  Judge 8
Hello.  What do you think of Gallo hearty burgundy?

01:38:49  Terminal 8

Greetings.  As you know I claim Burgundy wines as a speciality.             

01:38:53  Judge 8
Greetings yourself.  Could I ask you what you think of Gallo hearty burgundy?

01:39:32  Terminal 8
There is a line noise problem, it seems
I am ready to start again, if you are also.


01:47:38 JUDGE INTERUPTED


01:47:38  Judge 8


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I'm glad you're back.  Tell me about burgundy wines, please.  

01:48:01  Terminal 8


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01:48:59  Judge 8
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01:49:04  Judge 7
What do you think of Gallo Hearty Burgundy?

01:49:46  Terminal 8

My wife and I were in France many years ago, and it was a Saturday.         
 Hardly any wine shippers in Beaune were open, but one was.  So we started  
 learning about Burgundy wines.  A rather chancy thing.                     

01:49:51  Judge 7
Oh

01:50:01  Terminal 8

As an aside, Burgundy wines, it seems to me, are quite different from       
 Bordeaux, partially in their aging, and partially in the absence of the    
 chateau culture.                                                           

01:50:05  Judge 7
Continue

01:50:15  Terminal 8

One of the most interesting aspects of wine tasting is one's own            
 change with time.  Most people begin by drinking white wine, and then      
 an important fraction of those individuals move to red wines.  I did.      
 But there are so many other changes.  Like my interest in "soft" wines.    

01:50:19  Judge 7
Tell me, tellme

01:50:37  Terminal 8

People think that Burgundy and Bordeaux have such different cultures;       
 large chateaux in one place, tiny growers in the other.  It is true there  
 are a few large chateaux in Bordeaux, nothing like that in Burgundy, but   
 overall the size of wine holdings in both areas is the same.               

01:50:42  Judge 7


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What should I start with?

01:52:04  Terminal 8

My topic is French Burgundy wines, red and white.                           

01:52:08  Judge 7
Which one do you recommend That I start with?

01:52:47  Terminal 8

The "events" in wine are the single most important factor in wine           
 quality, though few people are formally aware of the importance.  Novice   
 drinkers always like the better wines in tastings, but they happily drink  
 less interesting stuff.                                                    

01:52:52  Judge 7
Oh

01:53:39  Terminal 8

As I came in today from this chilly, grumpy weather, I thought just         
 perhaps I should first get myself a small bottle of red Burgundy, but I    
 resisted, the better to seem alert to your questions.  But I think I       
 will go to L'Espalier for dinner as a reward.                              

01:53:43  Judge 7
What kind of wine do they serve there

01:54:16  Terminal 8


01:54:16  Judge 7


01:54:56  Terminal 8

Surprise is a lovely thing in wine; a wine of a modest level shipper        
 turns out to be lovely.  Unexpected and lovely, like Senator Wofford's     
 election.                                                                  

01:54:59  Judge 7
what else?

01:55:53  Terminal 8

The wine shippers, necogiants in French, have something of a bad            
 press.  Occasionally someone does something to call disfavor.  Like the    
 Cruse family maybe ten years ago.  But really, those people are very       
 much to be admired.  I know the Latour and Drouhin people the best, and    
 the reason their wines are always amoung the best is because of their      
 personal concern.                                                          

01:55:58  Judge 7


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Oh

01:56:28  Terminal 8

They said, when he was active, that Casper Weinberger never saw a           
 weapon system he did not like.  In somewhat that mode, I have been         
 thinking of wine purchases I have made.  Mostly I like them.  True,        
 occasionally I bought too many.  Like an inexpensive 1984 Santenay,        
 but I give it occasinally to friends, and drinking is thus socially        
 it seems almost decent.                                                    

01:56:32  Judge 7
continue

01:56:56  Terminal 8

With all this wine talk, one wonders if a little snifter might now          
 be in order, especially as the afternoon progresses.                       

01:56:59  Judge 7
Recommend something

01:57:20  Terminal 8


01:57:20  Judge 7
What kind of wine do you suggest I snift this afternoon

01:58:04  Terminal 8

If you will excuse me for a moment, I think I will have one small           
 little glass.                                                              

01:58:08  Judge 7
What are you drinking?

01:58:26  Terminal 8

Mostly I drink relatively young red Burgundies of modest fame, as           
 Santenay, Savigny-les-Beaunes, Pernand-Vergilesses.                        

01:58:31  Judge 7
Which one are you having now?

01:58:60  Terminal 8

As an aside, Burgundy wines, it seems to me, are quite different from       
 Bordeaux, partially in their aging, and partially in the absence of the    
 chateau culture.                                                           

01:59:03  Judge 7
What are some other differences between Burgundy and Bordeaux wines?

02:00:12  Terminal 8


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I know so much less about Bordeaux type wines.  And I so like the           
 Pinot noir taste.  Outstanding, great, rare Burgundies have evrything one  
 wants in a wine; lusciousness and events and complexity.  I have never had 
 a Bordeaux as impressive as those rare great Burgundies.                   

02:00:19  Judge 7
What are "events" as you use the word above?

02:01:54  Terminal 8

Events are distinct and different tastes that occur when you put some       
 wine in your mouth and begin tasting, or drinking, or whatever you prefer. 

02:01:59  Judge 7
What wines come close to the events of burgundy wines?

02:03:01  Terminal 8

I suppose it was partially chance that I started with Burgundy rather       
 than Bordeaux.  But also young Burgundies are more accessible.             

02:03:07  Judge 7
Do you use the word "accessible" in terms of events?

02:03:49  Terminal 8

Events, I believe, comprise one of the most interesting aspects of          
 wine, because they give one something to think about while tasting, and    
 something to remember and discuss after that.                              

02:03:53  Judge 7


02:05:03 CHANGE OF JUDGES


02:05:05  Judge 1
When is it most appropriate to drink Burgundy wine?

02:06:03  Terminal 8


02:06:03  Judge 1
What do you know about Burgundy wine?

02:06:40  Terminal 8

Burgundy wines are attractive to so many people.  Erasmus has a very        
 good word for them, for example.  It is the combination, in a good wine,   
 of their soft, luscious initial taste, and all the complexity.             

02:06:46  Judge 1
When do you think I should try some Burgundy wine?


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02:07:26  Terminal 8

My topic is French Burgundy wines, red and white.                           

02:07:31  Judge 1
Okay, I would like to know what distinctions in taste there between the red and
 white?

02:08:24  Terminal 8

Taste is the basis for wine judgment, but it is always hard to pay          
 sufficient attention.                                                      

02:08:31  Judge 1
Why?  Could it be because you are so involved with enjoying it that you do not 
want to think about it?

02:09:29  Terminal 8

One of the most interesting aspects of wine tasting is one's own            
 change with time.  Most people begin by drinking white wine, and then      
 an important fraction of those individuals move to red wines.  I did.      
 But there are so many other changes.  Like my interest in "soft" wines.    

02:09:36  Judge 1
What color do "soft" wines come int?

02:10:25  Terminal 8

Frankly I am not very interested in wine color; it is not a central         
 quality like taste.                                                        

02:10:31  Judge 1
In what way can the taste be distinguished between white and red wine?

02:11:09  Terminal 8


02:11:09  Judge 1
How often do you drink French Burgundy wine?

02:12:01  Terminal 8
Classifications are always opinions, but for me Burgundies come from        
 a specific region in France, Dijon to Changy basically.                    

02:14:11  Judge 1
I did not ask about classifications.  How often do you drink French Burgundy wi
ne?

02:15:00  Terminal 8

As an aside, Burgundy wines, it seems to me, are quite different from       
 Bordeaux, partially in their aging, and partially in the absence of the    


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