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From: jeff@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton)
Subject: Re: Reductionist Materialism (was Re: I lie therefore I am?)
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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 1994 01:11:18 GMT
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In article <CzDLDA.HBF@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca> pindor@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Andrzej Pindor) writes:
>In article <CzBuxE.434@spss.com>, Mark Rosenfelder <markrose@spss.com> wrote:
>>In article <1994Nov14.203936.12341@seas.smu.edu>,
>>Kenneth J. Hendrickson <kjh@seas.smu.edu> wrote:
>>>You beg the question.  You first assume that material stuff is all that
>>>exists, and then assume (correctly based upon the assumption) that ideas
>>>must exist in material media.  I will concede to you that for beings
>>>such as humans, who have both physical and non-physical components, a
>>>physical medium is necessary for communication of ideas.  However, while
>>>you use your physical brain for perception, you don't use it for storing
>>>ideas.  Ideas have ABOUTness.  It is not possible for any arrangement of
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>It may be worth pointing out that this is untrue. ABOUTness is not a property
>of ideas, it is a property which is assigned to them by brains. This can be
>easily seen from the fact that the same idea can have different ABOUTness
>for different people. To stick to an example used some time ago in this 
>group, for A 'love' may be about having sex with B, and for B it may be about
>getting flowers (and/or jewelry) from A.

What makes you think A and B have the same idea in this case?
I'd say they have different ideas, but both are labeled "love".


