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>From: nijmanm@prl.philips.nl (M.J. Nijman)
Subject: Re: We've Been Tricked- consciousness
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lcarr@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (lincoln carr) writes:

>How would everyone out on the net define consiousness?  I would start
>by saying that consciousness is self-awareness, or apperception of
>oneself.  Perhaps a good question in a Turing test would be "How do
>you know that you exist?"

Why is self-awareness a condition for consiousness? I can very well imagine
someone (something ?!) being aware of what is going on somewhere without
being aware of himself (itself). Think of it this way: there exist 2
non-interacting worlds, W1 and W2. It can be true that an entity (call it P)
in W1 is ONLY aware of what goes on in (a part of) W2, without being able to
effect anything in W2 (since P is in W1), and thus not being able to perceive
itself or anything effected by it. Thus P would be consious without being
self-aware.

Marcel Nijman

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