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>From: dsteele@dxcern.cern.ch (David Steele)
Subject: Re: We've Been Tricked- consciousness
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Date: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 23:24:25 GMT
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In article <iordonez.719617253@academ01> iordonez@academ01.mty.itesm.mx
(Ivan Ordonez-Reinoso) writes:
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>[...]  what is the meaning of having a belief without consciousness?
>
 Indeed.  So you can't deny that we are conscious (aware) entities;
 Solipsism, the belief that the "self" can know nothing but
 its own modifications and that only the "self" exists, is
 the most extreme possible belief here and it (necessarily)
 presupposes some sort of awareness.  So whether or not
 one is being tricked is irrelevant to the question of the
 existence of consciousness.

--David



