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>From: silber@orfeo.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Silber)
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Subject: Re: ''...distinction between a material object "responding" to ....''
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In article <1992Mar28.092723.10365@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny) writes:
...
>Yes, that's it.  Note that your basic understanding of my proposal is quite
>sound; it's Dave who got it all bass-ackwards.  
  (aside, Ah what would an emm-zett ^^^  posting be without calumny?)
>Note also that the outputs
>can be coded in a similar way.  My original point had to do with the
>well-known, demonstrable lack of a sound theoretical distinction between a
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>material object "responding" to input by "producing" output, and another
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>medium-sized piece of dry goods "just sitting there".  This, to me, is the
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>crucial turning point of Putnam's argument. ...

 Here is a distinction:

 I.
 ---- incident photon (input) --->[an excitable atom (material object)]---|
                                                                          |
                                                                          |
                            <----(output)stimulated radiation-------------

II.
  here is the ''medium-sized piece of dry goods "just sitting there" '':

           Atom named 'Joe' sitting around in a crystal lattice


