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>From: zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
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Subject: Re: Oil for the Chinese Fire
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Date: 28 Mar 92 15:51:05 GMT
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In article <1992Mar26.235848.10325@husc3.harvard.edu> 
kubo@brauer.harvard.edu (Tal Kubo) writes:

>In article <1992Mar23.184652.26102@psych.toronto.edu>
>christo@psych.toronto.edu (Christopher Green) writes: 

CG:
>>During WWII, "a meesage encoded from Turkish was successfully decoded back into
>>Turkish (using statistical techniques) by someone who *knew no Turkish*. (In
>>fact, the decoder didn't recognize the result as a message, and believed
>>he had failed). Weaver goes on to suggest that translation [of natural
>>languages] might be regarded as a *species of decoding*..." (pp. 77-78)

TK:
>In WWII, Yardley, working for US intelligence, decoded Japanese messages
>into English without knowing any Japanese.

Neat.  References?

TK:
>As for translation as decoding: barring an existence proof for one-way
>functions,

Some of my bodily functions seem to be one-way...

TK:
>	    there is no criterion to distinguish decoding from *any*
>operation whatsoever.

Loss of information?

>>Christopher D. Green                christo@psych.toronto.edu

>-tal  kubo@zariski.harvard.edu

Good to see you back.


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