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>From: shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True)
Subject: Re: Causes and Goals
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In article <1992Mar20.135455.10831@nuscc.nus.sg> smoliar@iss.nus.sg (stephen smoliar) writes:
>In article <1992Mar18.104311.9986@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu
>(Mikhail Zeleny) writes:
...

>>The Hopi mind that remains bound to its irrational tradition *hasn't*
>>grasped the concept of agency.

...

>>  Feel free to join them; I hear a lot of
>>good things about the potlatch.

>>  In return, you could teach
>>them about criteria of agency, like volition and responsibility.

...

>Anyone who would deign to teach the Hopi about volition and responsibility
>would have to be endowed with arrogance on the scale of hubris;  I suspect
>you, Mikhail, would be far better qualified for this task than I.

Amen.

I would suggest a small book written in the seventies, entitled "Don't
Push the River, It Flows By Itself." I've forgotten the author's name,
but the descriptions of Hopi philosophy and lifestyle (among other
things) are in direct opposition to Mikhail's insults.
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