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>From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Subject: Re: Intelligence Testing
Message-ID: <1992Jan25.230015.9475@mp.cs.niu.edu>
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Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1992 23:00:15 GMT
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In article <11906@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gudeman@cs.arizona.edu (David Gudeman) writes:
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>I don't have any problem believing that machine intelligence is
>possible, I just don't think you can say that some behavior is a sign
>of intelligence when you can completely explain the behavior without
>refering to intelligence.  That sort of belief is completely
>unmotivated.  (Or motivated by sloppy thinking.)

 I take it then that once somebody comes out with a full explanation of
human behavior, people will stop being intelligent!

>It is the pro-AIers who are causing this waste of time by claiming
>that the external appearence of internal experiences _is_ an objective
>way of detecting them.

 No!  It is people like you who insist that because you don't comprehend
the workings of the brain, therefore the brain understands, but since
you believe yourself to comprehend the working of the computer, even when
the computer is running a program that you find incomprehensible, therefore
the computer can't understand.

 It is perfectly valid for you to say to the pro-AI folk "I don't believe
you - put up or shut up".  It is invalid to say that AI is proven invalid
based on some huge incomprehensible "explanation" full of vague words which
you refuse to define.


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  Neil W. Rickert, Computer Science               <rickert@cs.niu.edu>
  Northern Illinois Univ.
  DeKalb, IL 60115                                   +1-815-753-6940


