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>From: zeleny@zariski.harvard.edu (Mikhail Zeleny)
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Subject: Re: Penrose on Man vs. Machine
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Date: 19 Jan 92 22:23:11 GMT
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In article <schumach.695589770@convex.convex.com> 
schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:

RAS:
>Previously, an entity at Harvard wrote:

MZ:
>>To sum up, my position is that, were I a Turing machine, there would exist
>>some formal mathematical theory whose meaning I couldn't understand.
>>Personally, I find this implausible; feel free to judge to the contrary.

RAS:
>...
>[expressions of astonishment and challenges from the Net deleted]
>...

MZ:
>>If I have to make an effort to understand it, he has to make an effort to
>>write it down.  See Emile Durkheim, "De la division du travail social":
>>it's all for the sake of social cohesion.

RAS:
>Ah! Now the only problem remaining is to invent some reason for
>cohering socially with such a pompous ass.

Perhaps, like the mechanics of human understanding pace Penrose, the
reasons in question are destined to remain forever beyond the grasp of a
humorless boor like yourself.

I remain, etc.
MZ

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