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>From: cash@convex.com (Peter Cash)
Subject: Re: How to outdo Roger Penrose
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In article <house.695437968@helios> house@helios.usq.EDU.AU (ron house) writes:
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>But whatever Penrose does he loses the 'mark'.  So perhaps he would
>bring in some other consideration.  If the goal is to beat the other
>player overall, he might write 'no', knowing it to be wrong and
>knowing that the other player will probably write 'no' also, thus
>losing points for both players, and hoping to score higher on other
>questions.  The point is he can think creatively about the problem,
>and cut at tangents across the logic.

But to do so he has to break the rules. The point of a logic problem is to
operate within the stated constraints. You can object that the problem is
irrelevant, or that it doesn't make the point Daryl says it does--but you
can't violate the terms of the problem and claim to have resolved it. 

If that were allowed, I suppose Searle could just pull out a gun and shoot
his opponent...

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